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It's deadly enough just because the polution is so bad you can't see ten metres in front of you. Add to that the fact that it runs on Chinese made infrastructure and you have a recipe for disaster. I used to think that you obviously can't buy anything expensive that is made in China like a tv or a fridge but cheaper things like jars, toothpicks etc are ok. Wrong. They will f up absolutely anything. I recently bought disposable spoons made of paper (let that sink in) and kitchen cuttlery that rusted the very first time I washed it (destroying my windowsill in the process with a rust stain). These are just two examples. If they can't even get a spoon right, how do you expect them to get infrastructure of that magnitude right.
I had a Country Club Yo-yo in the early 80's. Country Club is a popular brand of Merengue Soda pop in the Dominican Republic. Their Yo-Yos were the same model as the Coca-Cola ones, except they were Orange. :-) The Yoyo trick scene was huge back then in the Dominican Republic.
Literally just saw a post on Reddit comparing what Chinese subways look like compared to America. And of course the one for America was a flooding incident. Guess we should ignore when China flooded their subway and a bunch of ppl were trapped with some of them actually drowning.
Using high-speed rail during a holiday is indeed very challenging, but I've never experienced a shaking train or smoking on the train. Nevertheless, when I arrived back to China from a holiday in Japan, the difference in public behaviour on transport was extraordinary.
your social credit score has improved, thank you for bringing Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) to these comments, the CCP thanks you for your service.@@thomasauslander3757
I visited Japan for the first time a few years ago. I remember how surreal it was travelling at 320 km/h and my glass of water didn't even ripple. Absolutely amazing.
@@ZarpSterr Oh plz, the Chinese ones are just as smooth. You can even balance a coin and a water bottle upside down and it wont fall, that vibration was a rare example. It is like nit picking on Boeing quality after its door flew off. One incident doesn't mean they're all like that.
Living in Korea atm, my jaw dropped in disbelief. I'm so thankful Korean people in general are very quiet on the train, in fact people glare at you if you talk loudly, sometimes if you talk at all on the phone.
As a Kenyan the cigarette smoke in public transport is so true , one time I was traveling by public transport to Mombasa and two Chinese guy lit up a Cig and started smoking 🚬 😂 they thought it was China, the driver immediately told them to throw it away or board another bus 😂
I once flew commercial and had a woman put her bare feet between the seats, right next to my head. The stench was so bad I asked her to remove them. She verbally assaulted me and refused. Flight attendants had to resolve the issue. Common courtesy and respect for others is long gone now. We live in an age of me first. My needs and wants before all else. I wish everyone would just stop for a moment and think about others. We are not special.
@@SP911Haha I’m Asian. And lived in both countries. You can take your delusions up your a-hole lol they are polar opposites. China is the worst country on earth I ever been to (I’ve been to over 40 countries and lived in 3). US public’s helpfulness and friendliness are the highest in the west.
@@SP911 That is The "America Great Again" symptom. In China students are taught to be proud of the Communist history, at Home the local district officers tell the residents that their Communist leaders are great and the CPP is the best. The problem is being too prideful
I frequently use the Japanese Shinkansen system (I'll be using it today, as a matter of fact), and I love it. No security check points, easy to buy tickets, the trains are spotless, smooth, and quiet. And while the trains and stations are often busy, it's never to the point that it causes stress. Japanese don't talk on the phone when using a train, they don't talk or laugh loudly, they would never put their feet on the seat in front of them, that would be sub-human. And in all the years the Shinkansen has been running (60 years), there has never been a collision or accident, the only serious incident being a few years ago when a lunatic set himself on fire on one of the trains.
> Japanese don't talk on the phone when using a train, they don't talk or laugh loudly, they would never put their feet on the seat in front of them, that would be sub-human. Would you guys accept someone who would absolutely _love_ to escape a certain group of people in the United States who do these things _all the time_
Yeah, I first laughed about the security checkpoints at train. What do they expect you to do with a highjacked train? Drive it around a city corner really really fast? If you want to kill people, just rent a truck. Far easier.
what wrong with security check points ( china is huge country and they have security issues - metal detectors) ... what wrong with talking on phones... you want me to stare at other people and sit for 20 -30 min...(talking not shouting)
@@vikasreddy3603 Security check points are a stupid time and money waste, that is wrong with them. As for the other point: That depends on culture if you talk or not (I certainly prefer not, I don't want to be exhausted by a train ride). And generally, no, you don't stare. Why woudl you do that? Don't be rude! btw. have you ever heard about the grandiose invention named "book"? It's a tool with which you can either entertain or learn yourself if verious situations.
We travelled from Beijing to Hangzhou 3 weeks ago. The ride was very smooth, the train was clean, pleasant, on time. Toilets were reasonably clean and the stations are immaculate. Security checks prior to boarding are similar to airport security checks in the U.K. and ensure you have no dangerous weapons etc. Non-Chinese need to produce their passports. I found the merchandising on the train a bit strange; the staff come round selling things such as an album of historic bank notes. No pressure to buy. The foot rest only comes down in one position. The no smoking rule is adhered to, and a warning message tells you that, if you infringe the rules, you may not be able to buy tickets in future. Altogether a pleasant experience.
The same was my experience in China from 2015-2019 between Chengdu - Chongqing. Clean,always on time , best organization. The passangers already wait before the right train door, in which they go in when other passanger went out. Stopping tíme never more than 2 minutes.
That shaking on the train reminds of a report I saw on an incident that happened in Germany back in 1998. Passengers were experiencing such shaking right before a wheel broke and derailed the train. The ICE "Wihelm Conrad Röntgen" crashed into a bridge and 101 people were killed. Today still the most fatal accident with a high speed train in the world.
Germany has real stats, CCP fakes stats and max out at 39 fatalities for accidents because more has repercussions for officials. Actual fatalities is likely higher, e.g. their underpass flooding had approx 500+ cars but officially 39 fatalities.
@@chingo9002 The German accident was due to bad wheel design combined with someone in management deciding that preventative maintenance could be performed a little less often. Bad judgement, but not corruption.
@@MyFiddlePlayer All I know is, those deaths are somehow more relevant than all the road deaths we might talk about. Somehow, I just know in my heart of hearts that it's the highway or the... highway. It's the only way--sorry, I'm writing this while driving and got distracted by a road accident. I think a child cyclist got crunched by an SUV. What was a I saying?
I went to China last November and travelled from Xiamen to Joujiang to Wuhan, then to Zhangjiaje and Shenzhen. I had travelled a total of more than 2000 kilometers, and 5 train rides through two type of high speed trains. One has an average speed of 300K/hour and the second one, 250K/hour. The experience was very pleasant and smooth. No shaking. Just telling my own experience. The departure and arrival times are always on the seconds.
The shaking is on some lines that are shared with Classic Rail routes. You will experience it on the Hengyang-Liuzhou line, for example, even if your train is a Fuxing train. Lines that are purpose-built for high-speed rail don't have this problem. However, this video is pretty biased and blames a lot of things on the railway system that shouldn't be blamed on them, such as the suicides. The suicides are mental health problems, not problems with the railway.
On my second trip on a bullet train in Japan, I decided not to pay for a seat reservation. Big mistake, the train was full, even on the aisle between the seats haha. But we all got to our destination in the end. The trip I did before was better and very comfortable.
That dancing bottle is actually scary. It means that the rail/wheels are so bad that the train is dancing.... A wheel breaking down in Germany caused a high speed train there to bring down an overpass on the train when it derailed.
If I remember correctly, the scene where everyone laid on their floor gave me a flashback from my eight-year-old self as my family boarded a train in Shanghai to Hanzhou back in 1984 that was full with people like sardines.
China is much better than what you said. Don't put individual clips together into a video to discredit China. Have you ever been to China? Obviously not. You're the type of person who just trashes people on the internet.
It’s crazy to me my Gen Z peers think the social credit system is not real. They hate America and hate U.S-centric thoughts, but they don’t seem to realize that they’re speaking of themselves, too! My jaw literally dropped when I saw a mutual on Twitter say that social credit scores were “conservative propaganda”. My peers are truly VERY ignorant not only to how societies run, but how societies run outside the U.S
To be fair, they've taken pics from Chinese new year when the entire country is on public transport going home for the holidays. It's certainly not normal.
I have a Taiwanese friend. He would go back to Taiwan every few years for Lunar New Year. When there, he and his relatives would go to the mainland to visit more relatives. His tales of Holiday travel on the mainland were epic.
OK, you're asking for details. During Lunar New Year, everyone who has relatives is either travelling to or hosting relatives. Everybody. My Taiwanese friend would show me pictures of overflowing crowds in train stations and bumper to bumper traffic jams creeping along. Imagine a train station where 5x's the normal daily passengers plus their families are all trying to get on and off trains at once.
@@etoineschrdlu9382 ah ok yeah that’s true. It’s because of all the Chinese migrant workers who go far from their home into the cities for a meager pay. They have to work very hard (sometimes 20 hours a day), and the national holidays is the only time they can go home to briefly see their families. It’s thanks to them that China changed from a place that most children were not certain to survive into adulthood into what it is now, in a few decades. Yes there are still problems, but they are doing all they can to improve, and have a sense of optimism that life would continue to improve.
Wtf is a mainland? Sounds like a little pink dreaming how China should be? Taiwan is a country like China not mainland .😂If the trains are that shaky no wonder they couldn't take a little island lol
Japanese Shinkansen have not had a single fatality nationwide in more than 60 years. They are *the* standard against which ALL other rail systems on this planet are judged.
And yet sui cide by train in Japan is a social epidemic. Making the trains run on time doesn't fix years of lack of mental health support. There's no point in having the trains if there is no one left to ride them.
@@BurntEars58also might I add, China literally needs to put anti suicide netting on their apartments, so uhh, yeah I do t think they are very happy either.
God I remember those sounds, the stress, the security, the metal barriers everywhere, the hordes of people -- such a high price to pay for a smooth high speed train ride in China. I was usually so obliterated & exhausted after the whole experience of the high speed rail that I just wanted to hide out in my hotel for days to recover....China ugh. So grateful I'm gone.. I don't miss it.
That is not how trains work. The vibrations are caused by hunting oscillation and is not a safety issue. It is however a show of outdated engineering and a comfort issue. You will get those vibrations even on a perfect straight track at high speeds. That is why engineers invented active suspensions in the 1990's. The vibrations are not up and down, they are jiggly side to side vibrations. Super annoying for your spine, but totally fine for the train. Trying to cancel out those vibrations at 280 km/h speeds on the cheap caused the worst train wreck in german history in 1998. Having those vibrations at 140 km/h suggests a shoddy or overused track, though. You are supposed to change the tracks every few years.
@@AdamMPick vibrations have mainly 2 components. Frequency and amplitude. In this case they are both extremely high. That's how stress works! Uncomfortable is when the train leaves the tracks. A physical example is; a piece of wire. Flex it once a second by 1deg, as opposed to flexing it by 45deg 20 times a sec. Add the differences of materials choice, temperature, rust or corrosion or chemical contamination. You have the basics of component failure. Hope that's clearer. Bet those bearings fail soon! Cyclical stressing is devastating
Isn't village living superior than city living, you know in villages people go out and meet people while going to work or going to places. City people completely ignore everyone outside of their immidiate groups.
@@aoeu256 Yes..in an essence Village living is amazing...but in this term..village attitude can sometime be bad like in the context I was stating this for.
Time is short. PERHAPS READ AND SHARE?... Scoff at your own detriment... Sometime soon 'true' Christian's will be Raptured away (i.e. caught up) as mentioned in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 17. Strangely, aliens will be thought responsible for it. It'll only be 'true' Christians that disappear. No other religions will this be happening to. All matter of carnage will happen after it:- Very large earthquakes Mass lawlessness and murder. World war. Starvation be that of water and or food. The 'true' Christian's were the restrainer as mentioned in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 6 to 7 i.e. it was the Holy Spirit in them that kept it all at bay. But since they're gone, society will now implode. Out of this chaos will come a false leader to restore calm and order. Do not harken on to this leader. Do not take the mark (a chip?) Be a 5th seal martyr as mentioned in Revelation chapter 6 verse 9. but also read chapter 20 verse 4. Yep... That time is no picnic for sure. Study the last book of the Bible. If you can find one. Scripture will no doubt be hard to find. Note: There will be false Christian's that will be left behind. Why? Well their belief was shallow, a veneer of sorts. Heed the above or ignore it. This indeed is Biblical prophecy. Take care.
Used high speed in China a hundred times or more. Never experienced it once or smoking on the trains. It might have been a one off issue once and that makes the headlines on this channel coz they need to keep the subscriber narrative going. Be careful where you get your facts from.
My experience with trains in vietnam. An elderly man behind me propped up his foot beside my left shoulder throughout my 2 hour plus 200km journey. It was a SSR though.
I wouldn't say it didn't happen but at least that didn't on my one and only ride. I guess it is not a common issue at least for newer trains and rails.
I grew up in Jersey, 20 minutes outside Manhattan...People commit suicide by subway and train A LOT...Now I am not comparing to China, where we would have been physically fighting if someone had their stinking bare feet in people's faces and kicking the back of someone's chair like they want that smoke...My pressure went up just looking at that disrespect...I used to desire to visit Hong Kong and the Great Wall, well no thank you...
As someone from a country with actual amazing high speed trains almost everyone uses the only time trains are crowded is when we have tourist season lol
I see crowding as more of a population density problem. A problem that the elite wants to import into every country because more people means more cheap labor with means more profit. They'll never have to deal with the consequences.
@@LarryWater Then why does japan have public transport shoved down their throats? japan is by far the most dangerous country for women, yet they're forced to use public transport all the time.
High speed rail and good public transportation can be done right even if it sucks in the US. You usually won’t see scenes like this in other east Asian countries with HSR like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. Even if trains in Japan can be infamously crowded, at least the people have respect for each other and themselves. At the end of the day, this is a China-specific issue, not an issue with public transport. I still wish the US could have a robust high speed rail network that can outdo China on all their problems. And I believe they can and will. If they want examples where good public transport is thriving and the user experience is good as well, I’d suggest they’d look at those East Asian countries that aren’t China
Unfortunately, way too many people don't know how to act on public transport for me to ever use it. The trains and such work great in the US. It's people that are the issue.
no matter it is good or bad the behavior of Chinese people in this video. but the behaviors of the US citizens are not good either. there are always some people shit or pee in the Newyork subways.
@@makotohanazawa6560 Considering how law enforcement is deliberately not enforced on our countries public transport, the Gigantic Truck where only you are in it sounds more appealing. And I am saying this as an American who uses public transportation and doesn't own a car.
The reason public transport in the US sucks is because individual demand for it sucks equally. You, clearly, choose to be on the sucky side of that reality. (Pro Tip: This isn't going to change anytime soon)
I am watching this whilst travelling on a hi-speed train from Liuzhou to Guangzhou. I travelled from Guangzhou to Liuzhou, then Liuzhou to Nanning just before and returned just after lunar new year. Whilst the problems you highlighted have, and probably still are occurring I did not experience any of them on my 4 train journeys. The ride was extremely smooth. The passengers all behaved well, with the exception of the inevitable crush and pushing in, once they were called to the check in gate. I have travelled on the Guangzhou subway 4 times this visit and that is another story with quite rude people.
As a fellow Chinese citizen, I have to agree with you, this video is extremely biased. But the purpose for me to come to RUclips is not just to watch these misleading videos' somewhat false claims, it is more to see things from a differently biased perspective and compile what is true from both sides to paint the picture in more of its entirety.
I agree. I did nanning-luzhou many times without issue. Smooth ride. Good chats on longer journeys on the slow trains too 👍 Sometimes I would offer my seat to someone for an hour while I chat and smoke and stretch my legs, and then resume my seat. People were always very thankful and polite (90%) in my experiences
@@bfbunny All his videos are biased as he's attempting to make China look bad. I for one don't believe a word of what he claims. He also uses old material if it suits his story. I sincerely doubt the video is from a Chinese high speed train as I've never experienced this!
Time is short. PERHAPS READ AND SHARE?... Scoff at your own detriment... Sometime soon 'true' Christian's will be Raptured away (i.e. caught up) as mentioned in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 17. Strangely, aliens will be thought responsible for it. It'll only be 'true' Christians that disappear. No other religions will this be happening to. All matter of carnage will happen after it:- Very large earthquakes Mass lawlessness and murder. World war. Starvation be that of water and or food. The 'true' Christian's were the restrainer as mentioned in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 6 to 7 i.e. it was the Holy Spirit in them that kept it all at bay. But since they're gone, society will now implode. Out of this chaos will come a false leader to restore calm and order. Do not harken on to this leader. Do not take the mark (a chip?) Be a 5th seal martyr as mentioned in Revelation chapter 6 verse 9. but also read chapter 20 verse 4. Yep... That time is no picnic for sure. Study the last book of the Bible. If you can find one. Scripture will no doubt be hard to find. Note: There will be false Christian's that will be left behind. Why? Well their belief was shallow, a veneer of sorts. Heed the above or ignore it. This indeed is Biblical prophecy. Take care.
@@HavianEla crazy when you realize how delusional they are and scary when you realize they have real power over you and your future based on their ignorance. especially when theyve been convinced their lives are in danger if they dont stop the so called "far right".
Back in 2012 i had to do a work visit to China to inspect a product my company was having made in a factory. I had to get a train out of shenzhen and honestly it was one of the most horrific experiences of my life. Cramped, felt like 50c inside the train, people endlessly smoking. And the train just smelled of Piss. Actually the whole trip was a horror story. Thank god most companies now (In the EU anyway) have pulled all production out of china.
😂sounds like you got one of those slow overnight trains, the sleeper trains😂 china has 3 train tiers. The very slow trains (these are being phased out, this is the piss train) The slow trains(these come with bed you can sleep on smoking is some what limited on these) and the High Speed (pretty dam nice and fast, no smoking).
China have 2 types train. The old type train can only smoke at the junction of two carriages. It is not allowed to moke inside the train carriages. The new bullet train(high speed train) is forbidden to smoke anywhere inside the train. I think you should visit China again and seeing is believing
Was in the Shanghai train station at the start of the Chinese New Year, the crowds were unbelievable and the train I was on was standing room only for the first four hours. I dreaded being on the rail system during their holidays. Your video is correct in more than one way, the rudeness of people (shoving, elbows, leaning on and sleeping on you) is unimaginable to westerners. Also, it seems like people talking on their cell phone have to be load, it is a requirement.....
It's no different in Europe during peak times before holidays. People are well-used to having to stand for a couple of hours. That's just the way it is. And there's always people blasting music on their phones, mainly younger ones. There's not a month in the UK that there would be no reports of people having been removed off planes for drunkenness or fights.
Poor public transport users versus comfortable cars... come on. I really like you, but e.g. here in Switzerland people easily can afford cars - many have more cars, than family members, and those often are pretty expensive cars. But still a solid public transport system does make a lot of sense here as well. And almost all people use it regularly. It's just nice and convenient, when I want to go downtown, just step on a tram, that stops like 100-200m away from my home, and never have to worry about a parking space, while I'm shopping, or strolling along the shores of the lake. The tram is even faster, than trying to get through crosstown traffic with my car, and if that's still not fast enough, I walk like 500m, and take the S-Bahn, which brings me to the central station in less than five minutes. In winter you even see many people using the train to the ski resorts, because then the don't have to worry about parking lots, and in the evening, when they're tired from skiing all day, don't have to drive home. Switzerland is small, and crowded country, and therefore it's often hard to find a parking space, and when you have found one, it's usually pretty expensive. Don't think, public transport is generally only for the poor, just because US public transport system is (mostly) bad. It can be very fast, and comfortable, and highly regarded by the people, if done correctly.
Yep, it outright sounded like US suburbia propaganda, "sipping your starbucks in the drive-thru". And living in parking-infested cities with no good public transportation.
He literally mentions *China* multiple times in the section you're referring to - he isn't talking about any public transport anywhere, he specifically called out Chinese bus & rail by name 8:12 - "...think of all the poor souls who had to brave the cold and wet to find their way to a bus or train station, in China...." 8:41 - "So while you sip on your drive-thru Starbucks, listening to your favorite tunes on the radio, spare a thought for all those pour souls in China" ...I have no idea how you thought he was referring to any and all public transport. Shout out to shots at the US BTW(public transport quality depends on the city & state, because all but like 7 or 8 states in the US completely dwarf Switzerland...), quite relevant to China and apparently Switzerland.
@@AlexRepin It sounded like he was talking about China. Ya know, because he mentions China specifically immediately following the "sipping your drive-thru Starbucks"(which I'm pretty sure the whole closing was a lil bit sarcastic as hell)
Hey bro, he wasn't talking about Switzerland so don't get your knickers in a wad. You are right Switzerland has a fantastic rail network, cable cars, gondolas. Awesome.
Holy hell, that starting video of China's high speed train demonstrates everything. When I went on Japan's bullet train once between Tokyo and Osaka, I fell asleep with an opened drink narrowly balanced on a window rail that wasn't wide enough to completely hold it. It never moved at all.
And that's exactly the same experience that you would have on Chinese high speed rail. In fact I rode on both systems late last year and would rate Chinese HSR ever so slightly smoother and Japanese HSR (Shinkansen) ever so slightly quieter (and a it slower). The major difference being that in China you need to book a ticket in advance whereas in Japan, because they run so frequently (like every 20 mins or so at least on a main route like Osaka to Tokyo), you can pretty much turn up a the station and hop on the next train.
@@kshred3043 Excep the evidence speaks for itself in that video. I'm not saying you CANNOT get that experience, but the fact that construction is cha bu duo you're always rolling the dice. Can you do basic logic?
You again forgot or purposely missed to mention trains around world are crowded and smells particularly in London and New York stations. You made if it’s only China train stations are crowded and people closed to each others, take a look of Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong or Seoul subways in the morning peak hours, exactly the same or worse. You are telling viewers who may live in isolated Northern Europe or people live on quiet country side. This propaganda video are so misleading, cheap and so inaccurate and uninformed, that three years old child may believes it.
The video footage he used is from a United Airlines flight. Look at the chair patterns as I fly United a lot. The chinese trains don’t have the type of seats.
Travel on the normal trains can be a bit of a mixed bag. But I've been on dozens of high-speed train journeys around the whole country over the last few years and generally find it extremely impressive. Punctual, smooth, good prices, etc. It's much better than in England I can promise you that.
I was living in shanghai when they buried the train in shanghai 2012 if I remember correctly. I was frequent air plane traveler and took the mag to the airport , thank God I wasn’t on the train that morning.
@@censured-again lets not compare China immediately trying to censor a train wreck and burying it immediately after it happened to Canada burying a train wreck after a full 56 day investigation took place. Those are hardly parallel situations.
What do they do about the injured? Do they scare them to not saying anything? Are you supposed to just shut up and go back to your normal job missing a hand with thousands in hospital bills? Or do they take action? Like enforce full reeducation to keep people from talking? Curious what do they do.
@@amberg4131 your gonna get sick to your stomach. They buried them with the train. Thats the reports I read on Weibo before the records were wiped from social media.
It's deadly enough just because the polution is so bad you can't see ten metres in front of you. Add to that the fact that it runs on Chinese made infrastructure and you have a recipe for disaster. I used to think that you obviously can't buy anything expensive that is made in China like a tv or a fridge but cheaper things like jars, toothpicks etc are ok. Wrong. They will f up absolutely anything. I recently bought disposable spoons made of paper (let that sink in) and kitchen cuttlery that rusted the very first time I washed it (destroying my windowsill in the process with a rust stain). These are just two examples. If they can't even get a spoon right, how do you expect them to get infrastructure of that magnitude right.
@@ivareskesner2019 *_"Cutlery consists primarily of knives (literally, cutting implements),_* but as a generic term it includes knife-handled pieces such as carving forks and carving steels. Flatware means spoons and forks, pieces that are made flat and are then beaten or pressed into shape." Feb 24, 2020
@@aliendroneservices6621 Dude, you really aren't worth yr 50 cents. Here in normal world, we usually use stainless steel or sterling silver for cutlery, for the exact reason that neither metal will corrode when wet. If it rusts that quick when left to dry, there's a non-zero chance that your "high-quality" Chinese cutlery is depositing iron oxide in your food and your mouth as you use them. And a "soft metal" Knife sounds as useful as a chocolate saucepan.
All crucial train car components are imported. China can't make any of those. A vital part is the wheel bearings for high-speed trains. Two countries make it, Germany and Japan. Germany has refused to sell to China a long time ago because of the competition. Japan only sells limited quantities because the factory that makes it in Japan is small. The rumor is that China overuses the wheel bearings across the board after the allowed lifetime, which is short for high-speed trains.
Precisely. They also bought their first HSR sets from Japan (Kawasaki/Hitachi) and Germany (Siemens). Eventually, they basically reverse-engineered stuff to come up with their own domestic HSR units, largely based on the technology they bought & took apart. Even after all these years it still looks weird to me seeing a Japanese Shinkansen or a German ICE3 in the livery of the Chinese National Railways.
the smoking part didn't even bother me...there are so many other things that is allowed that is actually worse. people who do not wash themselves, excessive perfume to mask that they didn't wash themselves etc. and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised that the air inside the train actually became 'cleaner' to breathe with a smoker there, the ash etc would tie and bind up probably more than whatever non existent airconditioning units they are using or that has stopped working due to excessive shaking, unless they just straight up explode..
bruh , you're blessed , as an vietnamese live under communist rules everything he's said is true , there is no forgiveness against the government i'm talking about ZERO Tolerance
Ditto for South Western Railway! ♊ (Even if the section between Clapham and Basingstoke is straight enough they _could_ upgrade it to 350km/h running...But SWR don't want to put up the cash, and we *all* know what Gov't thinks about HS2! 😉)
8:10 is some car-brain propaganda. If those hoards of people were forced into cars, the traffic jam would be a never-ending parking lot. The public transit, bike paths, and high speed trains were my favorite thing about China; I stopped being fat for the first time in my life. I regained my weight, and more, when I got an office job in the US and had no choice but to drive to work. I'm not saying high speed rail in China is perfect, it isn't, but that rant making public transit look bad really wasn't well thought out. At least they have public transit over there where the bus passes every few minutes. Over here, the working poor either have to wait for the one bus that passes every hour or half hour, or need to drive a dangerous hoopty. Weekend service? It's a total joke in my area.
7:14 "yes in china, since they can't afford personal transport" LMAO, could you even imagine how terrible would be if all those people travel in personal transport?
He really seems to think that public transport is for poor people. Even the highly paid people working on Wall Street use public transport each day, because it is the fastest option.
@@skyscraperfan that was exactly the vibe I get from his video. He doesn't like public transport, So he highlights and searches for the worst parts of it to make it look like is all hell on earth for people to ride trains there.
I'm a US citizen but I live and work in China and have for 8 years. My family and I ride the high speed rail often and have never experienced any trouble or witnessed any of the things you show in your video. in fact, I've quite enjoyed every trip we've made, much easier than airlines. Yes, accidents happen and yes the gov. probably doesn't handle these sorts of 'image' things the way it should much of the time but there are inconsiderate people and corrupt gov. officials everywhere. you appear to have exaggerated and sensationalized things to get clicks. This is just as bad as the pro china propaganda, only it's anti-china. Two wrongs don't make a right, and you're contributing to misunderstanding and playing into people's xenophobia and racism. I'm not saying whether China or USA is 'better', they're different and each has its positives and negatives - however the cost of living here is such that my family and I are able to enjoy a lifestyle much better than I would be able to in the US
@@rajeshkumarm6441 The guy been living in china for many years, he knows it from the inside. People always stayed in China but when it comes to the crucial decision where to make their future EVERYONE LEAVE the shithole, including you.
@@mickdalrymple6425 I actually experienced the vibrations a few times, not only that but the times I have gone on it, it’s incredibly loud and while smoking is rare I have still occasionally encountered it, and just the peoples I’ve encountered are the worst!
@@Showastatism4life High speed trains on sleepers is nothing new to vibrations. The mitigation of the vibrations are it's own industry. This channel does nothing but cherry pick the worst it can find about China. As if informing was needed. When the west has a mountain of it's own problems. Being pretentious is all this channel does. I bet the channel would promote the lie about Uyghur genocide too, if it could.
I traveled to China and lived there. I saw for myself. Video he's showing is what I remember. Awful stressful experience on high speed trains.@@dleu1234
Reminds me of a flight I took with China Eastern Airlines, mid flight as I went to the restroom 🚻 all the folks in the back had their feet up and a thick stench of gas waffling in the air.
@@brewcrew5854 Clearly they mean the people breaking wind. Flew through Beijing one time and had a similar experience. They just have no control or scruples, basically peasants with money, and way too many of them. They should try to be like the refined Taiwanese and have some class.
I suppose it's their way of enforcing distance,as they seem to be all over each other in public. Note to self: Pack plenty of baked beans for my next Chinese holiday.
I had been on china train in every city. China Beijing guangzhou wuhan and many more. I enjoyed the ride. It was cheap and affordable. Better go and take the trains there to see real life experience
One of the first rules i learnt in China, don't do things when everyone one else does. Go to lunch half an hour early, everything's ready and no queues. Go home 20 minutes early and you have a queue of taxis waiting for you. Work from home in the morning and go to the office mid morning. Easy life.
Not to the same extent. I exaggerated with 30 minute, you could go 10 minute early to lunch and it would be empty when you walked in and full with a long queue by the time i was finished.@@dleu1234
American has much slower trains, and they still crash and derail. A train crashes into a terminal and killed people on the platform, because the USA still didn’t have positive train control. Trains in Florida keep hitting cars, cuz we were too cheap to grade separate the tracks. The overcrowding seems like it’s a victim of its own success, and they need more trains.
Accidents happen all the time with all things, minimizing the likely-hood is always done, but the present American government is not doing its job so we need a change of government unlike China which won't allow that. - China is another kettle of fish I'm afraid - glad I don't live there.
ofc you are glad since you believe propaganda videos like this. you have never been there so you think that what this propagandist show is 100% factual. shows how easy it is to brainwash people like you@@ladybug591
Howa. I've just travelled from Beijing to Shanghai via speed rail. It was tereible. Upon my landing in China and crossing airport customs, I got an SMS that simply said "No tickets were issued for your booking". Well, then... 6 hours of hell on Beijing south. 15 attempts of booking. Only one succeeded. No service in English, everything bookes within 2-3 days but magically I found last ticked for the next day. So, a night in filthy hotel, here we go. The train was really good tbh, way better then economy class flight.
it is the Chinese new year holiday recent days, and billions of people will use the trains to back home. and most of them had booked the tickets at least 15 days in advance.
@@paulx3827So, in my non-English speaking country at least in capital (Moscow, Russia) at railway stations there are quite a lot of english-speaking personal. Beijing's railway terminals are way bigger and way busier. They've got only two cashiers at whole station!
Every year in the United States, 30,000 people are killed in vehicle collisions with another 100,000 injured. Yet, nobody talks about it. While it's not a cover up, it's something most drivers and passengers are unaware of and THAT is part of why the problem persists.
The U.S. is 5 times bigger than most countries. Any stats have to take into account the fact that the total number of miles traveled per year by car, in ths U.S., is likely many times higher than most other countries.
@@matthewmosier8439 - Here's a stat to consider, despite the size of the US, vehicle collisions are one of the leading causes of death for people under 18 in the US. Regardless, my point with the original comment was to make a commentary reply to the video on the danger facing people in the "civilized world" everyday that we don't even consider because it is very, very rarely talked about. I do find it ironic, and sad, that we have teens calling for gun restrictions when guns aren't a leading cause of death for teens. Meanwhile, many teens are eager to get behind the wheel of a 4,000 lbs guided missile without even considering that it is also a potentially deadly weapon and there aren't any noteworthy calls by teens for more vehicle operator restrictions.
@@Texas240 That's a good observation. But I'm always careful not to feed the 50 cent army. They constantly quote statistics trying to give the impression that the U.S. has a problem with something to cover up the problems in their country. That was why I called out your comment. It usually becomes quickly apparent which people are genuinely trying to have a discussion and which people are just handwaving in an attempt to cover for a foreign country.
@@Texas240 I don;t know how it is in other states, but in Georgia it is _pathetically_ easy to get a license. Illegals drive around unlicensed all the time. The members of the infamous 13% of the US population who reside here can't drive worth a crap, and have a horrible "me first" attitude that causes tons of accidents. I've seen the most absurd behaviors on the road out of them. Utterly reckless behavior. I've seen them hit stationary objects when parking, then shrug and walk away. Driving on the wrong side of the road is just normal for them. I absolutely agree about teens as well. Getting a license to begin with should be _far_ more difficult than it is, and there should be periodic retesting, and more frequent with the elderly. Public schools need to bring back driving classes.
@@matthewmosier8439 While it is correct that for comparison reasons you have to calculate death per capity, vehicle miles driven has nothing to to with that statistics. Except when you want to argue that you just have to design your cities in a way that people don't have to use a car to get a bag of milk or to their neighbor next street. Like stop putting everythign far away from everythign else, stop making a race course out of everything and stop building those awful stroads.
I have travelled by high speed train from Shenzhen to Guangzhou (Dec 2023), but didn't encountered any of those, perhaps you need to experience it to believe or was I lucky one.
@@jcmixedchannel7341This is just another angle of attack against China by those ex-colonists who is finding increasingly difficult to lay a hand on China. To their disgust, China is moving ahead, while the ex-colonists are wallowing in their own mess, and are going backward in many ways. The UK is in recession. That's all I need to say. It carried on about "the Golden Era with China is over". Judging by evidence, the golden era of the UK is over.
@@WalkOverHotCoal the ride was smooth as silk, as always. However Shenzhen-Guangzhou is just over 1 hour, not exactly a cross country journey. It would be nice if the video mentioned exactly when and on which line that the shaking was occurring!
I have heard that on the train to Lhasa, Tibet, people died due to elevation sickness. Only after the number of riders to decrease, they began providing oxygen. Although Lhasa is at an elevation of 11,000+ feet, the rail line goes above 14,000 feet. Also, the high-speed rail technology was stolen from Japan.
I have been living in China for over 7 years and never ever seen this on a high speed train before. 🤦🏾♀️it’s fast (no shaking) clean no over crowding and NO smoking.
So you left China 7 years ago and has since then only used proper HSR? Good for you, no wonder you never experienced a shaky or noisy ride, HSR are designed to run smooth and silent, at least in the developed world.
Suicide by train is also a big problem in Germany. I used to teach English to the lawyers at deutsche rail in Germany. They explained how suicides by train were a constant problem.
I took the train from Nanjing to Shanghai in 2015 and had a pleasant trip. The cars were pretty full but not packed. Hit 212 MPH. But I probably visited China at the most opportune time in history. Things have changed.
You are pulling the leg ...been many times to China. Last time Bullet Train Beijing to Cangzhou and back after visit to a factory. Smooth ride 305km/h max. Felt like on a plane and this is a fair opinion.November last year.
Masses of overcrowded trains. People getting squeezed in cars like cattles. Hours if commuting standing everyday. You jus5 described a regular day in Tokyo.
Yes. But you wouldn't hear that perspective from Serpentza. His RUclips business modele is anti-China , not anti-Japan. Unlike Chinese subways, the seats on the Tokyo subways are padded though which is a nice touch if you can get one. As a foreigner navigating the Japanese subways was a nightmare with so many different lines and stations and platforms. An APP was essential. Chinese subways are a model of simplicity and consistency in comparison.
I’ll stay in America. I live in a rural area and I’m retired. I go out in the morning and feed my livestock, have a cup of coffee and some fresh eggs and run my hound dog. Later I will jump on my gas guzzling large American pickup truck with the dog and take the boat out for a little fishing. Come home, have a few beers, clean and cook the fish and tell my wife bullsh!t fishing stories. This way of life here is not lost, it’s ignored.
When is the next positive video of China coming? I remember you used to put out dozens of great videos when you lived in China and they tended to be somewhat positive. Thank you
mighty suspicion: Serpentza has cultivated an audience that likes to dunk on China, hence he's incentivized to cater to them (there is LOTS that's horrible about mainland China, but full trains… seriously?)
he got kicked out of China. now he cries about chian and post propaganda crap. this is all he does now. so no there will never be good videos anymore about china. only crap like this.
I have always lived in China, and your perspective and propositions astonish me greatly. These mixed videos deliberately blur the lines between 'everyday life' and 'extraordinary circumstances,' 'past' and 'present,' and then draw sensational conclusions. I believe that those who have recently traveled by HSR, or are currently living in China using HSR, would find it hard to agree with your conclusions, as most of them would have a completely different experience from what is portrayed in your video. Some comments under your video mention issues like being loud or playing videos without headphones; if you were talking about these phenomena, I believe you would have garnered more agreement. However, you chose a more extreme angle. If your goal was to make many people who have never been to China dislike it, I think you have succeeded.
This person has lived in China before but did not obtain a Chinese green card. After leaving China, he began to oppose China. There seems to be something wrong with his mind.
It seems like people decided to believe him more than you, regardless the video was so fake and manipulated. Shame on this channel, channel of American brain wash station.
I know the video is more serious, but that sponsor segment was great. I love it when people do sponsor segments where it's just something low quality and cheesy, but gets the point across well enough.
It's all BS though. Every proper modern Program, E-Mail Client/Browser uses HTTPS. Which is encrypted. That is super good enough for the average person. Now you're trusting the VPN Provider with that Data instead of the ISP you're connected to. Hardly a difference. It may even be a downgrade. Since all of your Data now goes through their Service and not just the Stuff you're checking. If you really value your safety, then host your own VPN. Or use one a Person runs you trust personally. Yes the Man in the Middle can still see the Host domains of the Website you're browsing, maybe he can see images, he can see the secondary services your browser conects to, to load functionality for the Website, but it can't see more. VPNs have their Place however but security isn't it. If you're not self hosted you're pretty much done for. And even then, you have to be on your game to make sure, that nothing happens.
I was on a China high speed rail train to and from the Kowloon West station to ChangSha about 4 weeks ago. The ride was as smooth as a baby's behind. I would question where you got your video footage from.
This for what you said at 7:19, public transportation isn't just for poor people, I know that isn't what you said, but it sounds like are very strongly implying it. The notion that cars are the best way to get around is just perpetuated by America being #1 and having a car centric transportation system. Look at Japan for example, everybody uses the bullet trains to get around between big cities and most people using it are working class average people (even rich people use them).
I have been to China last July. The train rides from Beijing to Jinan were super smooth and convenient. It was on time as well. Then I road the high speed rail in Shenzhen. Super quick, smooth, and quiet.
It would probably be hard to judge the whole railway system one way or another based on this journey, because you’re going to built up coastal areas. I would be more curious to see how good it is further inland on smaller, less well known routes. I would also be curious to see what it looks like in 10-20 years. I bet the wear and tear will be tremendous. When you see Winston’s videos, you have to understand that he’s pointing out the worst. And I get it. You can’t simply say good things and expect the worst to improve. I would also argue that among other things, you can tell a lot about a society by how it treats the poorest/least important people. The implication in his videos is that the poorest/least important in China are treated as sub human and are not cared about. I can tell you having Chinese in-laws who are from the lower class, this is absolutely true. The buildings and infrastructure look very different when you go out to the outlying areas away from the coast. They have no hope for a better future in China, because despite being good and honest Christian people, society looks down on them. The only hope for a better life is for them to come here to America.
After looking at this video, and after the incident in Beijing, among many others, I can proudly say "Good that I'm not living there! Not even considering going for a visit."
@BoazKiriama-do3xy , if you think China doesn't need my money or my investment, that's great news. I'll go to Taiwan instead and say Hi to the fairly democratically elected William Lai.
do we in the UK - with our abysmal train service - have any right to criticise any other country's rail service ? The phrase "Those in Glass Houses shouldn't throw Stones" springs to mind. At least the Chinese trains do move occasionally.
Having just spent a week in the UK, your rail service isn't THAT bad. It's still light years better than US rail service. I was still able to get around without a car pretty decently, even into rural Wales. And London is super easy to get around
HaHa - ask anyone who lives here - one example = the west coast pendolino is widely touted as a 200mph train - what a laugh - it never goes more than 40 fucking mph all the down to London - I know because I have used it many many times - our rail service is a joke & most 3rd world countries do far better@@mrvwbug4423
The Chinese HSR is alright. I wouldn't take 2 hour ride if I can help it. Most of the rides I've taken are smooth. BTW, people are actually using it as daily commute.
You make some great comments about the China High Speed Trains. I used them between 2011 to 2013, but it was never as portrayed here. We travelled at speeds up to 304km/h, and there was very little vibration inside the Train. Seating was good, with nobody in the Aisles sleeping or making trouble. One other thing that impressed me, was that the Stations that where I boarded the HS Train, were immaculately clean. Not a single scrap of any Litter, either on the Station Platforms or on the Tracks! But here is where I always felt very uncomfortable: Chinese New Year! This period in early February is when you simply cannot move - whether this is at an Airport or Train Station. You really get pushed and shoved in some of the most 'unruly' queuing that I have ever seen. Greetings from Australia.
I use to like to watch this guy but I find this video paint a false picture Look at the west with Boeing issues. You would be mad to try and travel during Chinese holidays and it is easy to avoid these days. It looks like he has an axe to grind with China now
@@kindabent3275 psychological operations. Channels like this are a dime a dozen on RUclips. All the information is poorly researched, false, or exaggerated. It's like red scare 2.0. the entire idea is it's not just an independent channel made by some dude. He is being paid by someone to convey this message, as are DOZENS of other very similar RUclips channels. Not all information here is wrong, but the narrative he tries to spin is clear and is incredibly biased. At worst this channel is a psyop, at best it's non-credible propaganda click bait. One needs only to compare actual safety statistics of China high speed rail compared to us rail to get the real picture. For fucks sake we've got the national guard in NYC subways because people are being randomly attacked and several felonies happen per day. Look at how utterly trash the Boston rapid transit system is. Hell, the opening video he shows looks like your average Amtrak trip in some areas. Why doesn't he provide any technical information or legitimate statistics? For what reason was the train shaking in that opening clip? How do we know that was even high speed rail? Only an idiot would fall for this type of nonsense, as his video does not hold up to the most basic level of scrutiny.
my grandpa use to pilot locomotives in china (most for cargo) and he said his train had inadvertently crashed into and killed at least 6 people, and probably more! People are either unaware that a fully-loaded train traveling at high speeds will take a LONG distance to stop, or they simply want to escape the mortal realm
I traveled from Shenyang to Xian in 2014 on a standard train, had the middle bunk, three bunks above each other. Each cabin had 6 bunks. It took about 40 hours of travel time, was a experience, I think I was the only foreigner on the train. Been on the highspeed also, but that was also over 7 years ago, from Xian to Beijing. As the years past I started seeing stuff outside the firewall that made me change my mind about using highspeed rail in China. Stuck to flight, but wouldn't trust the reliability of the C919. Recently got out and back home.
I travelled the high speed rail from Shanghai to Beijing and Beijing to Xi'an in 2017 and I had a good experience. Because interstate and rural rail in Australia is as slow as it is 💩🏠, so anything is an improvement.
My husband had a student in China whose father was a pilot. He forbade her from taking Chinese flights, as he said most pilots got to their positions through guangxi and learned 'on the job', after sleeping through their classes.
Nationality of Xi Jinpig: daughter: lives in US brother: australian green card daughter in law: british green card sister: canadian citizen brother in law: canadian citizen second sister: australian green card second brother in law: australian green card
An average person in Europe suffers the same inconvenience with public transport. Europe doesn't really have drive in Starbucks, few people can afford that. Overcrowded subways are the norm, especially during rush hour. This doesn't typically lead to violence, because people have empathy for each other, and everyone suffers together. So it's a bonding experience to "crowd swim" basically accidentally hugging everyone on your way to the door when the subway reaches your stop. Theft can happen. Locals watch their wallets. Other than that, it's pretty peaceful on the subway and the tram and the train and the bus.
No they don't. I've lived in Europe all my life and I have never seen people lying down on the aisles of trains or sitting with their feet up on the back of a headrest. On the opposite seat yes, and that's actually not allowed but arrogant inconsiderate people are amongst us no matter where we live. Oh yeah, I can afford Starbucks just as I imagine most people can.
Last train I rode in China had a coal furnace for heating, an open hole squat toilet in the floor and and a sheet across the doorway to the next carriage saying no entry for foreigners. And it was single line working as it was cheaper to build single line tunnels than twin line tunnels! But that was in the days of FEC's and electricity rationing . Mid 90's. Big Big changes since those times...
@@brianbrotherston5940 And all those Billions of dollars of taxation destroy jobs, and this tends to hurt the poor much more than the rich. And very few people use the choo-choo trains.
@@johnmc3862 Great question! Some people think it is the largest City in the State of Washington, which is in the NW corner of the contiguous United States. Others see it as a socialist experiment gone horribly wrong. In any case, we have a light rail program that is billions of dollars over budget and which is used by very few people. The vast majority of us would rather use cars. But the politicians force us to pay for the choo-choo train because the builders and contractors give them lots of bribes. Also, our traffic on our roads is really bad, and most people are hoping OTHER people will use the train instead, and that will reduce congestion. But that obviously will never work. :)
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It's deadly enough just because the polution is so bad you can't see ten metres in front of you. Add to that the fact that it runs on Chinese made infrastructure and you have a recipe for disaster.
I used to think that you obviously can't buy anything expensive that is made in China like a tv or a fridge but cheaper things like jars, toothpicks etc are ok. Wrong. They will f up absolutely anything. I recently bought disposable spoons made of paper (let that sink in) and kitchen cuttlery that rusted the very first time I washed it (destroying my windowsill in the process with a rust stain). These are just two examples. If they can't even get a spoon right, how do you expect them to get infrastructure of that magnitude right.
Serpentza actually u are spreading false information out of jealousy and shame that west has failed in such infrastructure. Im reporting ur channel.
If I recollect reading somewhere, only the Beijing--Shanghai line makes money. Rest of the network is mostly loss making. Over one trillion in debt.
I had a Country Club Yo-yo in the early 80's. Country Club is a popular brand of Merengue Soda pop in the Dominican Republic. Their Yo-Yos were the same model as the Coca-Cola ones, except they were Orange. :-) The Yoyo trick scene was huge back then in the Dominican Republic.
@@worldaffairs9509AGV, ICE, EUROSTAR, MagLev ... trains
Literally just saw a post on Reddit comparing what Chinese subways look like compared to America. And of course the one for America was a flooding incident. Guess we should ignore when China flooded their subway and a bunch of ppl were trapped with some of them actually drowning.
Reddit is partially owned by a Chinese company. They manipulate votes on the large subreddits to curate what people see. It’s a shithole.
@@jamqdlaty you far left and far right losers need to get a life and realize everything on the internet is a lie
I mean the veneer is nice.... just don't look deeper
"Some"? I think they used 6 or 8 city buses to move out the bodies from the flooded tunnel incident, lots of tarps to hide the transfer, no?
@@jamqdlatychanging the definition of those terms is the reason for the ballooning numbers
Using high-speed rail during a holiday is indeed very challenging, but I've never experienced a shaking train or smoking on the train. Nevertheless, when I arrived back to China from a holiday in Japan, the difference in public behaviour on transport was extraordinary.
Just wondering how reliable information of this journalist continues in his presentation
your social credit score has improved, thank you for bringing Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) to these comments, the CCP thanks you for your service.@@thomasauslander3757
@@thomasauslander3757 He just confirmed what ZA said...
@@thomasauslander3757 russian bot alert
@@Hector.BanuetI m an American bot and an island boy
I visited Japan for the first time a few years ago. I remember how surreal it was travelling at 320 km/h and my glass of water didn't even ripple. Absolutely amazing.
Made in Japan.....different league.
@@ZarpSterr Oh plz, the Chinese ones are just as smooth. You can even balance a coin and a water bottle upside down and it wont fall, that vibration was a rare example. It is like nit picking on Boeing quality after its door flew off. One incident doesn't mean they're all like that.
You cant compare the 2, Japan and Japanese people are leagues ahead of the chinese and much more cultured
@@Zergcerebrates I trust NOTHING made in China.
@@powderskier5547 My legendary Toyota would agree with you.
Living in Korea atm, my jaw dropped in disbelief. I'm so thankful Korean people in general are very quiet on the train, in fact people glare at you if you talk loudly, sometimes if you talk at all on the phone.
自卖自夸。😂
Chinese people are loud not only in the trains
You are not living in Korea so stop lying
riding the train isn't detention
shaming one or the other is kinda absurd, if they talk within reasonable volume it should be fine
@@shaojiesong2848Down with the CPP. I still agree with your comment, the world's obsession with South Korea is getting ridiculous.
As a Kenyan the cigarette smoke in public transport is so true , one time I was traveling by public transport to Mombasa and two Chinese guy lit up a Cig and started smoking 🚬 😂 they thought it was China, the driver immediately told them to throw it away or board another bus 😂
I'm heading to Kenya this Sunday. Any recommendations on how to get to Garissa from Mombasa?
@bimaia2783
*_My recommendations - Don't..._*
@@loralubimaia2783 Garissa from Mombasa you have to board a bus heading towards Tana River county, and why would you go there what's up ?
@@alexnelson9512 Nini mbaya
Awesome bus driver, I too drive busses but I can't imagine what city transit workers deal with there.
I once flew commercial and had a woman put her bare feet between the seats, right next to my head. The stench was so bad I asked her to remove them. She verbally assaulted me and refused. Flight attendants had to resolve the issue. Common courtesy and respect for others is long gone now. We live in an age of me first. My needs and wants before all else.
I wish everyone would just stop for a moment and think about others. We are not special.
Some people are, she definitely isn’t.
America isn't much different nowadays 😂
@@SP911Haha I’m Asian. And lived in both countries. You can take your delusions up your a-hole lol they are polar opposites. China is the worst country on earth I ever been to (I’ve been to over 40 countries and lived in 3). US public’s helpfulness and friendliness are the highest in the west.
@@SP911 That is The "America Great Again" symptom.
In China students are taught to be proud of the Communist history, at Home the local district officers tell the residents that their Communist leaders are great and the CPP is the best. The problem is being too prideful
Walter is this old stuff?
I frequently use the Japanese Shinkansen system (I'll be using it today, as a matter of fact), and I love it. No security check points, easy to buy tickets, the trains are spotless, smooth, and quiet. And while the trains and stations are often busy, it's never to the point that it causes stress. Japanese don't talk on the phone when using a train, they don't talk or laugh loudly, they would never put their feet on the seat in front of them, that would be sub-human. And in all the years the Shinkansen has been running (60 years), there has never been a collision or accident, the only serious incident being a few years ago when a lunatic set himself on fire on one of the trains.
> Japanese don't talk on the phone when using a train, they don't talk or laugh loudly, they would never put their feet on the seat in front of them, that would be sub-human.
Would you guys accept someone who would absolutely _love_ to escape a certain group of people in the United States who do these things _all the time_
Yeah, I first laughed about the security checkpoints at train. What do they expect you to do with a highjacked train? Drive it around a city corner really really fast? If you want to kill people, just rent a truck. Far easier.
what wrong with security check points ( china is huge country and they have security issues - metal detectors) ... what wrong with talking on phones... you want me to stare at other people and sit for 20 -30 min...(talking not shouting)
@@vikasreddy3603 Security check points are a stupid time and money waste, that is wrong with them.
As for the other point: That depends on culture if you talk or not (I certainly prefer not, I don't want to be exhausted by a train ride). And generally, no, you don't stare. Why woudl you do that? Don't be rude!
btw. have you ever heard about the grandiose invention named "book"? It's a tool with which you can either entertain or learn yourself if verious situations.
@@steemlenn8797 you be my sl a v e and carry books for me....
Also you being exhausted... Not my problem.
We travelled from Beijing to Hangzhou 3 weeks ago. The ride was very smooth, the train was clean, pleasant, on time. Toilets were reasonably clean and the stations are immaculate. Security checks prior to boarding are similar to airport security checks in the U.K. and ensure you have no dangerous weapons etc. Non-Chinese need to produce their passports. I found the merchandising on the train a bit strange; the staff come round selling things such as an album of historic bank notes. No pressure to buy. The foot rest only comes down in one position. The no smoking rule is adhered to, and a warning message tells you that, if you infringe the rules, you may not be able to buy tickets in future. Altogether a pleasant experience.
I was recently in Japan. Public transportation is awesome and runs like clockwork. Always on time, and no crackhead drama like the Greyhound.
Yep, the Japanese don't muck about but there are also some negative consequences of being obsessively on time.
Yeah, it was a bit disappointing SerpentZA trying to pass public transport as something only poor people do.
Plus the Japanese have manners.
Yeah but the Shinkansen was sooooooo expensive, The metro and light rail cost more too.
The same was my experience in China from 2015-2019 between Chengdu - Chongqing. Clean,always on time , best organization. The passangers already wait before the right train door, in which they go in when other passanger went out. Stopping tíme never more than 2 minutes.
6:22 Bless her heart for trying to deal with this childish man.
That shaking on the train reminds of a report I saw on an incident that happened in Germany back in 1998.
Passengers were experiencing such shaking right before a wheel broke and derailed the train.
The ICE "Wihelm Conrad Röntgen" crashed into a bridge and 101 people were killed.
Today still the most fatal accident with a high speed train in the world.
China will break that record eventually.
That was some sort of corruption, boss didn't listen to his engineer. Although I can't remember the details, I'm sure we learned from that lesson.
Germany has real stats, CCP fakes stats and max out at 39 fatalities for accidents because more has repercussions for officials. Actual fatalities is likely higher, e.g. their underpass flooding had approx 500+ cars but officially 39 fatalities.
@@chingo9002 The German accident was due to bad wheel design combined with someone in management deciding that preventative maintenance could be performed a little less often. Bad judgement, but not corruption.
@@MyFiddlePlayer All I know is, those deaths are somehow more relevant than all the road deaths we might talk about. Somehow, I just know in my heart of hearts that it's the highway or the... highway. It's the only way--sorry, I'm writing this while driving and got distracted by a road accident. I think a child cyclist got crunched by an SUV. What was a I saying?
I went to China last November and travelled from Xiamen to Joujiang to Wuhan, then to Zhangjiaje and Shenzhen. I had travelled a total of more than 2000 kilometers, and 5 train rides through two type of high speed trains. One has an average speed of 300K/hour and the second one, 250K/hour. The experience was very pleasant and smooth. No shaking. Just telling my own experience. The departure and arrival times are always on the seconds.
Fortunately, you have been to real China!
hello there fellow ccp agent....all hail to xi gi ping and mao, our wise leaders🔥🔥🔥🔥
Me too. Yantai to Shanghai several times and it was always smooth.
@@atom_zoom8672你不信吗、就不希望中国过的好😂
The shaking is on some lines that are shared with Classic Rail routes. You will experience it on the Hengyang-Liuzhou line, for example, even if your train is a Fuxing train. Lines that are purpose-built for high-speed rail don't have this problem. However, this video is pretty biased and blames a lot of things on the railway system that shouldn't be blamed on them, such as the suicides. The suicides are mental health problems, not problems with the railway.
I've been on the Bullet Train in Japan many times. The toughest part is choosing which Bento box to buy at the station.
VPN crab !
You can't buy on the train?
@TheSklar you usually can, but the choices are much less and more expensive. :)
@@12kenbutsurichoices are much fewer**, not “less”.
On my second trip on a bullet train in Japan, I decided not to pay for a seat reservation. Big mistake, the train was full, even on the aisle between the seats haha. But we all got to our destination in the end. The trip I did before was better and very comfortable.
That dancing bottle is actually scary.
It means that the rail/wheels are so bad that the train is dancing....
A wheel breaking down in Germany caused a high speed train there to bring down an overpass on the train when it derailed.
Wirklich? Was für eine Scheiße :/
I’m never going on a train.
科目三
@@LarryWater Say im Not Ever going on a Train 🌹
Never say Never !! 🐾🐾
@@LarryWater trains are statistically safer than cars. Do you go in cars?
When the people lack civility, it makes it worse when in an uncomfortable situation.
If I remember correctly, the scene where everyone laid on their floor gave me a flashback from my eight-year-old self as my family boarded a train in Shanghai to Hanzhou back in 1984 that was full with people like sardines.
Like ISNOTREAL 😂
China is much better than what you said. Don't put individual clips together into a video to discredit China. Have you ever been to China? Obviously not. You're the type of person who just trashes people on the internet.
Have you ever been to china? Obviously not!
Always the same copy and paste like all you small minded chinese wumao's do all the time. @@亮蒋-d9y
@@jcngokai-76 imagine the toilets usages ... ???
In 2016 Singapore has send back 26 train back to China due to poor quality of train structure and material use.
they are metro cars not trains
@@kiscynLol. Metro cars are trains.
@@Redzwan no they are not. Trains are not metros. my god you are stupid
And that was historically donkey years ago? Comment something that are now.
@@mintrendsan1819you work for the chinese government?
Wow
The dystopian, "Thank you for your cooperation," after threatening to lower your social credit score is terrifying
My first thought too. Dystopian. Obey!
cyberpunk dystopias were supposed to be a warning, not a blueprint
"Move along"
Social credit? Omg how can you believe that bs. You must be stoopid as a stone.
It’s crazy to me my Gen Z peers think the social credit system is not real. They hate America and hate U.S-centric thoughts, but they don’t seem to realize that they’re speaking of themselves, too! My jaw literally dropped when I saw a mutual on Twitter say that social credit scores were “conservative propaganda”. My peers are truly VERY ignorant not only to how societies run, but how societies run outside the U.S
I can only imagine the smell in those packed trains where people take off their shoes and put them almost in your face or right under your seat! 🤢
Oh boy you made me picture the smell! 🫥😵😵💫
To be fair, they've taken pics from Chinese new year when the entire country is on public transport going home for the holidays. It's certainly not normal.
The feet is normal
They spit all over the floor and talk very loudly 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
Fingers up Noses....quite the thing.
It’s remarkable that Japan’s high speed rail (Shinkansen) hasn’t suffered a single death since its inception in 1964.
Made in Japan....different league.
that is bcs they have not more as 1000 derailments a year as the usa do
That is actually quite remarkable, extraordinary, I'd say.
Wasnt there an incident in 2005 where a japanese train derailed and plowed into a residential building with around 100 casualties?
My mistake, it wasnt a highspeed train but normal train
I have a Taiwanese friend. He would go back to Taiwan every few years for Lunar New Year. When there, he and his relatives would go to the mainland to visit more relatives. His tales of Holiday travel on the mainland were epic.
Why you post a comment and then says nothing? 😂
I sense bullshit
OK, you're asking for details. During Lunar New Year, everyone who has relatives is either travelling to or hosting relatives. Everybody. My Taiwanese friend would show me pictures of overflowing crowds in train stations and bumper to bumper traffic jams creeping along. Imagine a train station where 5x's the normal daily passengers plus their families are all trying to get on and off trains at once.
@@etoineschrdlu9382 ah ok yeah that’s true. It’s because of all the Chinese migrant workers who go far from their home into the cities for a meager pay. They have to work very hard (sometimes 20 hours a day), and the national holidays is the only time they can go home to briefly see their families. It’s thanks to them that China changed from a place that most children were not certain to survive into adulthood into what it is now, in a few decades. Yes there are still problems, but they are doing all they can to improve, and have a sense of optimism that life would continue to improve.
Wtf is a mainland? Sounds like a little pink dreaming how China should be? Taiwan is a country like China not mainland .😂If the trains are that shaky no wonder they couldn't take a little island lol
Japanese Shinkansen have not had a single fatality nationwide in more than 60 years. They are *the* standard against which ALL other rail systems on this planet are judged.
And yet sui cide by train in Japan is a social epidemic. Making the trains run on time doesn't fix years of lack of mental health support. There's no point in having the trains if there is no one left to ride them.
@@BurntEars58we’re talking infrastructure, not suicide rates.
@@BurntEars58also might I add, China literally needs to put anti suicide netting on their apartments, so uhh, yeah I do t think they are very happy either.
Japan has the most bullet train disaster than any country 😂
They invented High speed trains... not to mention Japan itself is a grade of its own. Not many can beat that
God I remember those sounds, the stress, the security, the metal barriers everywhere, the hordes of people -- such a high price to pay for a smooth high speed train ride in China. I was usually so obliterated & exhausted after the whole experience of the high speed rail that I just wanted to hide out in my hotel for days to recover....China ugh. So grateful I'm gone.. I don't miss it.
No need to use God's name as a profanity.
@@PunkDogCreationshe didn't use it as a profanity. You seem overly sensitive. It's a figure of speech.
@PunkDogCreations Fuck your religion and this is coming from a believer of God lol. Let them talk however.
@@PunkDogCreationsWho is God? A train designer?
@@PunkDogCreations ...as well as God's relic panties.
Can you imagine the cyclic fatigue stresses waiting to destroy that train and multiple lives and infrastructure
As if anyone there cares.
That is not how trains work. The vibrations are caused by hunting oscillation and is not a safety issue. It is however a show of outdated engineering and a comfort issue. You will get those vibrations even on a perfect straight track at high speeds. That is why engineers invented active suspensions in the 1990's.
The vibrations are not up and down, they are jiggly side to side vibrations. Super annoying for your spine, but totally fine for the train.
Trying to cancel out those vibrations at 280 km/h speeds on the cheap caused the worst train wreck in german history in 1998.
Having those vibrations at 140 km/h suggests a shoddy or overused track, though. You are supposed to change the tracks every few years.
You clearly haven't seen a train to Bihar.
@@AdamMPick vibrations have mainly 2 components. Frequency and amplitude. In this case they are both extremely high. That's how stress works! Uncomfortable is when the train leaves the tracks. A physical example is; a piece of wire. Flex it once a second by 1deg, as opposed to flexing it by 45deg 20 times a sec. Add the differences of materials choice, temperature, rust or corrosion or chemical contamination. You have the basics of component failure. Hope that's clearer. Bet those bearings fail soon! Cyclical stressing is devastating
You can take a person out of the village, but you can never take the village out of a person.
lmaoo
Wahey!!
Isn't village living superior than city living, you know in villages people go out and meet people while going to work or going to places. City people completely ignore everyone outside of their immidiate groups.
@@aoeu256 Yes..in an essence Village living is amazing...but in this term..village attitude can sometime be bad like in the context I was stating this for.
you are making fun of this south african guy now in us
A high speed rail car shaking AT ALL is terrifying.
Time is short.
PERHAPS READ AND SHARE?...
Scoff at your own detriment...
Sometime soon 'true' Christian's will be Raptured away (i.e. caught up) as mentioned in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 17.
Strangely, aliens will be thought responsible for it.
It'll only be 'true' Christians that disappear.
No other religions will this be happening to.
All matter of carnage will happen after it:-
Very large earthquakes
Mass lawlessness and murder.
World war.
Starvation be that of water and or food.
The 'true' Christian's were the restrainer as mentioned in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 6 to 7 i.e. it was the Holy Spirit in them that kept it all at bay. But since they're gone, society will now implode.
Out of this chaos will come a false leader to restore calm and order.
Do not harken on to this leader.
Do not take the mark (a chip?)
Be a 5th seal martyr as mentioned in Revelation chapter 6 verse 9.
but also read chapter 20 verse 4.
Yep...
That time is no picnic for sure.
Study the last book of the Bible.
If you can find one.
Scripture will no doubt be hard to find.
Note: There will be false Christian's that will be left behind.
Why?
Well their belief was shallow, a veneer of sorts.
Heed the above or ignore it.
This indeed is Biblical prophecy.
Take care.
Facts
made in china
@@PBST_RAIDZ great point
Used high speed in China a hundred times or more. Never experienced it once or smoking on the trains. It might have been a one off issue once and that makes the headlines on this channel coz they need to keep the subscriber narrative going. Be careful where you get your facts from.
My experience with trains in vietnam. An elderly man behind me propped up his foot beside my left shoulder throughout my 2 hour plus 200km journey. It was a SSR though.
That bouncing bottle was unreal. No Way is that normal.
Normal...In China ?
That train is resonating, very bad thing that engineers spend a lot of effort preventing.
it happens when the seats are no fastened enough
I wouldn't say it didn't happen but at least that didn't on my one and only ride. I guess it is not a common issue at least for newer trains and rails.
Even GWR's Class 800 don't shake as much
I grew up in Jersey, 20 minutes outside Manhattan...People commit suicide by subway and train A LOT...Now I am not comparing to China, where we would have been physically fighting if someone had their stinking bare feet in people's faces and kicking the back of someone's chair like they want that smoke...My pressure went up just looking at that disrespect...I used to desire to visit Hong Kong and the Great Wall, well no thank you...
As someone from a country with actual amazing high speed trains almost everyone uses the only time trains are crowded is when we have tourist season lol
This, this guy and his warm cars
I don't believe commute is supposed to use your brainpower unless you're being paid. Public transport wins always
@@Quephara Unfortunately, some countries are too dangerous. People get assaulted in public transportation, especially women.
I see crowding as more of a population density problem. A problem that the elite wants to import into every country because more people means more cheap labor with means more profit. They'll never have to deal with the consequences.
@@LarryWater good point, but that's a problem with the place, not the means of transport
@@LarryWater Then why does japan have public transport shoved down their throats? japan is by far the most dangerous country for women, yet they're forced to use public transport all the time.
High speed rail and good public transportation can be done right even if it sucks in the US. You usually won’t see scenes like this in other east Asian countries with HSR like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. Even if trains in Japan can be infamously crowded, at least the people have respect for each other and themselves. At the end of the day, this is a China-specific issue, not an issue with public transport.
I still wish the US could have a robust high speed rail network that can outdo China on all their problems. And I believe they can and will. If they want examples where good public transport is thriving and the user experience is good as well, I’d suggest they’d look at those East Asian countries that aren’t China
Unfortunately, way too many people don't know how to act on public transport for me to ever use it. The trains and such work great in the US. It's people that are the issue.
no matter it is good or bad the behavior of Chinese people in this video. but the behaviors of the US citizens are not good either. there are always some people shit or pee in the Newyork subways.
@@1faithchick7muricans: i dont need no trains i am good with my f 150 pickup
@@makotohanazawa6560 Considering how law enforcement is deliberately not enforced on our countries public transport, the Gigantic Truck where only you are in it sounds more appealing. And I am saying this as an American who uses public transportation and doesn't own a car.
The reason public transport in the US sucks is because individual demand for it sucks equally. You, clearly, choose to be on the sucky side of that reality. (Pro Tip: This isn't going to change anytime soon)
I am watching this whilst travelling on a hi-speed train from Liuzhou to Guangzhou.
I travelled from Guangzhou to Liuzhou, then Liuzhou to Nanning just before and returned just after lunar new year.
Whilst the problems you highlighted have, and probably still are occurring I did not experience any of them on my 4 train journeys.
The ride was extremely smooth. The passengers all behaved well, with the exception of the inevitable crush and pushing in, once they were called to the check in gate.
I have travelled on the Guangzhou subway 4 times this visit and that is another story with quite rude people.
It's because they don't happen in most places. This video is just bait.
There’s a great reduction in travel currently (CNY exception). While there seems to be crowds, not like years before.
As a fellow Chinese citizen, I have to agree with you, this video is extremely biased. But the purpose for me to come to RUclips is not just to watch these misleading videos' somewhat false claims, it is more to see things from a differently biased perspective and compile what is true from both sides to paint the picture in more of its entirety.
I agree. I did nanning-luzhou many times without issue. Smooth ride. Good chats on longer journeys on the slow trains too 👍
Sometimes I would offer my seat to someone for an hour while I chat and smoke and stretch my legs, and then resume my seat. People were always very thankful and polite (90%) in my experiences
@@bfbunny All his videos are biased as he's attempting to make China look bad. I for one don't believe a word of what he claims. He also uses old material if it suits his story. I sincerely doubt the video is from a Chinese high speed train as I've never experienced this!
The creepy part is, that those pictures dont shock me because I see similar things when using German short-distance trains...
True! Alone with my own experience, I could fill a movie twice as long!
Be aware of the wu mao. Never seen people sleeping on the floor of the trains in Germany. Not even comparable.
Never experienced anything like that in Germany.
@@silvieb2024 they are just a bunch of Wu Mao.
Which train..?
There is absolutely no way I could survive in the cities, even those with English signage, I just couldn't manage the complexity of it all.
Time is short.
PERHAPS READ AND SHARE?...
Scoff at your own detriment...
Sometime soon 'true' Christian's will be Raptured away (i.e. caught up) as mentioned in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 verse 17.
Strangely, aliens will be thought responsible for it.
It'll only be 'true' Christians that disappear.
No other religions will this be happening to.
All matter of carnage will happen after it:-
Very large earthquakes
Mass lawlessness and murder.
World war.
Starvation be that of water and or food.
The 'true' Christian's were the restrainer as mentioned in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 6 to 7 i.e. it was the Holy Spirit in them that kept it all at bay. But since they're gone, society will now implode.
Out of this chaos will come a false leader to restore calm and order.
Do not harken on to this leader.
Do not take the mark (a chip?)
Be a 5th seal martyr as mentioned in Revelation chapter 6 verse 9.
but also read chapter 20 verse 4.
Yep...
That time is no picnic for sure.
Study the last book of the Bible.
If you can find one.
Scripture will no doubt be hard to find.
Note: There will be false Christian's that will be left behind.
Why?
Well their belief was shallow, a veneer of sorts.
Heed the above or ignore it.
This indeed is Biblical prophecy.
Take care.
I recently left just a random comment about China's gov and the multiple china defenders that commented on my comment was crazy
My Gen Z counterparts think social credit scores are “conservative propaganda”. When I tell you my jaw hit the floor….
@@HavianEla The brainwash from mainstream media has got them, it's done
Taiwan is #1
@@HavianEla crazy when you realize how delusional they are and scary when you realize they have real power over you and your future based on their ignorance. especially when theyve been convinced their lives are in danger if they dont stop the so called "far right".
Which online platform did you leave your comment on?
Back in 2012 i had to do a work visit to China to inspect a product my company was having made in a factory. I had to get a train out of shenzhen and honestly it was one of the most horrific experiences of my life. Cramped, felt like 50c inside the train, people endlessly smoking. And the train just smelled of Piss. Actually the whole trip was a horror story. Thank god most companies now (In the EU anyway) have pulled all production out of china.
😂sounds like you got one of those slow overnight trains, the sleeper trains😂 china has 3 train tiers. The very slow trains (these are being phased out, this is the piss train) The slow trains(these come with bed you can sleep on smoking is some what limited on these) and the High Speed (pretty dam nice and fast, no smoking).
你的思想还停留在十几年前,现在是2024年
@@亮蒋-d9y Nuts to you Wumao
China have 2 types train. The old type train can only smoke at the junction of two carriages. It is not allowed to moke inside the train carriages. The new bullet train(high speed train) is forbidden to smoke anywhere inside the train. I think you should visit China again and seeing is believing
Back in 2012, there was hardly any HSR in China, dude
The bumpiness reminds me off railways in the UK, especially before the pacers were retired from service.
Was in the Shanghai train station at the start of the Chinese New Year, the crowds were unbelievable and the train I was on was standing room only for the first four hours. I dreaded being on the rail system during their holidays. Your video is correct in more than one way, the rudeness of people (shoving, elbows, leaning on and sleeping on you) is unimaginable to westerners. Also, it seems like people talking on their cell phone have to be load, it is a requirement.....
The high speed trains leave from Hongqiao station
@@Maximixa I was not on the high speed rail line just expressing my thoughts on the rail service
r/PeopleLiveInCities
It's no different in Europe during peak times before holidays. People are well-used to having to stand for a couple of hours. That's just the way it is. And there's always people blasting music on their phones, mainly younger ones. There's not a month in the UK that there would be no reports of people having been removed off planes for drunkenness or fights.
Lunar New Year*
Poor public transport users versus comfortable cars... come on.
I really like you, but e.g. here in Switzerland people easily can afford cars - many have more cars, than family members, and those often are pretty expensive cars. But still a solid public transport system does make a lot of sense here as well. And almost all people use it regularly.
It's just nice and convenient, when I want to go downtown, just step on a tram, that stops like 100-200m away from my home, and never have to worry about a parking space, while I'm shopping, or strolling along the shores of the lake. The tram is even faster, than trying to get through crosstown traffic with my car, and if that's still not fast enough, I walk like 500m, and take the S-Bahn, which brings me to the central station in less than five minutes.
In winter you even see many people using the train to the ski resorts, because then the don't have to worry about parking lots, and in the evening, when they're tired from skiing all day, don't have to drive home. Switzerland is small, and crowded country, and therefore it's often hard to find a parking space, and when you have found one, it's usually pretty expensive.
Don't think, public transport is generally only for the poor, just because US public transport system is (mostly) bad. It can be very fast, and comfortable, and highly regarded by the people, if done correctly.
Even Swiss politicians regularly use public transit. No bodyguards either, you could just randomly find them on a train or bus.
Yep, it outright sounded like US suburbia propaganda, "sipping your starbucks in the drive-thru". And living in parking-infested cities with no good public transportation.
He literally mentions *China* multiple times in the section you're referring to - he isn't talking about any public transport anywhere, he specifically called out Chinese bus & rail by name
8:12 - "...think of all the poor souls who had to brave the cold and wet to find their way to a bus or train station, in China...."
8:41 - "So while you sip on your drive-thru Starbucks, listening to your favorite tunes on the radio, spare a thought for all those pour souls in China"
...I have no idea how you thought he was referring to any and all public transport. Shout out to shots at the US BTW(public transport quality depends on the city & state, because all but like 7 or 8 states in the US completely dwarf Switzerland...), quite relevant to China and apparently Switzerland.
@@AlexRepin It sounded like he was talking about China. Ya know, because he mentions China specifically immediately following the "sipping your drive-thru Starbucks"(which I'm pretty sure the whole closing was a lil bit sarcastic as hell)
Hey bro, he wasn't talking about Switzerland so don't get your knickers in a wad. You are right Switzerland has a fantastic rail network, cable cars, gondolas. Awesome.
Holy hell, that starting video of China's high speed train demonstrates everything. When I went on Japan's bullet train once between Tokyo and Osaka, I fell asleep with an opened drink narrowly balanced on a window rail that wasn't wide enough to completely hold it. It never moved at all.
And that's exactly the same experience that you would have on Chinese high speed rail. In fact I rode on both systems late last year and would rate Chinese HSR ever so slightly smoother and Japanese HSR (Shinkansen) ever so slightly quieter (and a it slower). The major difference being that in China you need to book a ticket in advance whereas in Japan, because they run so frequently (like every 20 mins or so at least on a main route like Osaka to Tokyo), you can pretty much turn up a the station and hop on the next train.
@@kshred3043 Excep the evidence speaks for itself in that video. I'm not saying you CANNOT get that experience, but the fact that construction is cha bu duo you're always rolling the dice.
Can you do basic logic?
@@kshred3043 As you know, China's high-speed rail = Kawasaki Heavy Industries and JR East gave us technology.
Beijing's subway = ODA from Japan.
@@user-co5ri8dp_978but didn’t China invent high speed rail? …..😂
You again forgot or purposely missed to mention trains around world are crowded and smells particularly in London and New York stations. You made if it’s only China train stations are crowded and people closed to each others, take a look of Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong or Seoul subways in the morning peak hours, exactly the same or worse. You are telling viewers who may live in isolated Northern Europe or people live on quiet country side. This propaganda video are so misleading, cheap and so inaccurate and uninformed, that three years old child may believes it.
I've been on these trains so many times, it's really not like that. The drink doesn't fall, the people don't jump, and everything is calm
+ 1
This serpentza is known for his bias
This is a US propaganda page that's why
@@sodazman okay I starting to think the same way, but how I supposed to find a difference between Chinese and us propaganda?
The video footage he used is from a United Airlines flight. Look at the chair patterns as I fly United a lot. The chinese trains don’t have the type of seats.
Travel on the normal trains can be a bit of a mixed bag. But I've been on dozens of high-speed train journeys around the whole country over the last few years and generally find it extremely impressive. Punctual, smooth, good prices, etc. It's much better than in England I can promise you that.
You need to be middle -upper class to afford the absurd tickets
Lol. Clearly not true.
10 US dollars to go from Shenzhen to Guangzhou tomorrow morning on High-Speed train (140km in half an hour). Hardly absurd. @@cedhome7945
@@cedhome7945 a railcard and purchasing advance tickets makes the prices a lot more bearable
@@cedhome7945have you actually been there before?
6:23 The awkward crickets chirping level silence😐 after he said "just go around me damnit" is just cartoon level comedy🤣🤣🤣
I was living in shanghai when they buried the train in shanghai 2012 if I remember correctly. I was frequent air plane traveler and took the mag to the airport , thank God I wasn’t on the train that morning.
Cn in Canada buries its train wrecks as well. Head on collision near hinton, alberta was buried on the spot. Some 20+ people were killed.
@@censured-again lets not compare China immediately trying to censor a train wreck and burying it immediately after it happened to Canada burying a train wreck after a full 56 day investigation took place. Those are hardly parallel situations.
What do they do about the injured? Do they scare them to not saying anything? Are you supposed to just shut up and go back to your normal job missing a hand with thousands in hospital bills? Or do they take action? Like enforce full reeducation to keep people from talking? Curious what do they do.
@@amberg4131 your gonna get sick to your stomach. They buried them with the train. Thats the reports I read on Weibo before the records were wiped from social media.
They bury the train and its contents unless the contents can walk out on their own.
It's deadly enough just because the polution is so bad you can't see ten metres in front of you. Add to that the fact that it runs on Chinese made infrastructure and you have a recipe for disaster.
I used to think that you obviously can't buy anything expensive that is made in China like a tv or a fridge but cheaper things like jars, toothpicks etc are ok. Wrong. They will f up absolutely anything. I recently bought disposable spoons made of paper (let that sink in) and kitchen cuttlery that rusted the very first time I washed it (destroying my windowsill in the process with a rust stain). These are just two examples. If they can't even get a spoon right, how do you expect them to get infrastructure of that magnitude right.
You're supposed to dry kitchen knives immediately. That was user-error. Only low-quality soft-metal kitchen knives can be safely drip-dried.
@@aliendroneservices6621They weren't knives but you're having a laugh, right? This is a joke?
What device did u used to type this nonsense?
@@ivareskesner2019 *_"Cutlery consists primarily of knives (literally, cutting implements),_* but as a generic term it includes knife-handled pieces such as carving forks and carving steels. Flatware means spoons and forks, pieces that are made flat and are then beaten or pressed into shape." Feb 24, 2020
@@aliendroneservices6621 Dude, you really aren't worth yr 50 cents. Here in normal world, we usually use stainless steel or sterling silver for cutlery, for the exact reason that neither metal will corrode when wet. If it rusts that quick when left to dry, there's a non-zero chance that your "high-quality" Chinese cutlery is depositing iron oxide in your food and your mouth as you use them.
And a "soft metal" Knife sounds as useful as a chocolate saucepan.
All crucial train car components are imported. China can't make any of those. A vital part is the wheel bearings for high-speed trains. Two countries make it, Germany and Japan. Germany has refused to sell to China a long time ago because of the competition. Japan only sells limited quantities because the factory that makes it in Japan is small. The rumor is that China overuses the wheel bearings across the board after the allowed lifetime, which is short for high-speed trains.
Precisely. They also bought their first HSR sets from Japan (Kawasaki/Hitachi) and Germany (Siemens). Eventually, they basically reverse-engineered stuff to come up with their own domestic HSR units, largely based on the technology they bought & took apart. Even after all these years it still looks weird to me seeing a Japanese Shinkansen or a German ICE3 in the livery of the Chinese National Railways.
the smoking part didn't even bother me...there are so many other things that is allowed that is actually worse. people who do not wash themselves, excessive perfume to mask that they didn't wash themselves etc.
and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised that the air inside the train actually became 'cleaner' to breathe with a smoker there, the ash etc would tie and bind up probably more than whatever non existent airconditioning units they are using or that has stopped working due to excessive shaking, unless they just straight up explode..
God no, smoking is a lowlife filthy habit, it utterly stinks. No thanks.
你在中国高铁上见过抽烟的吗?作为中国人,我是从来没亲眼见过。今年过年有一个大爷在车上厕所里偷偷抽烟,很快全中国人民都知道了。这个大爷也免不了受到处罚。这个概率可能十亿分之一都不到。这个人的视频都是别有用心的,他专盯着那十亿分之一。
In China,You can't smoke on High-Speed-Rail,or detained...
yea he lacks the most basic knowledge and he should do some more research before lying
I’m never complaining about the London Underground again.
I know, lol!
Everyone that uses the LU complains about it at some point so I'm calling BS on that one! 🤣
bruh , you're blessed , as an vietnamese live under communist rules everything he's said is true , there is no forgiveness against the government i'm talking about ZERO Tolerance
Ditto for South Western Railway! ♊
(Even if the section between Clapham and Basingstoke is straight enough they _could_ upgrade it to 350km/h running...But SWR don't want to put up the cash, and we *all* know what Gov't thinks about HS2! 😉)
if you believe this garbage then you are actually stupid
8:10 is some car-brain propaganda. If those hoards of people were forced into cars, the traffic jam would be a never-ending parking lot. The public transit, bike paths, and high speed trains were my favorite thing about China; I stopped being fat for the first time in my life. I regained my weight, and more, when I got an office job in the US and had no choice but to drive to work. I'm not saying high speed rail in China is perfect, it isn't, but that rant making public transit look bad really wasn't well thought out. At least they have public transit over there where the bus passes every few minutes. Over here, the working poor either have to wait for the one bus that passes every hour or half hour, or need to drive a dangerous hoopty. Weekend service? It's a total joke in my area.
that was clearly US copium. trains are the answer buddies don't be scared of them
Sell said. My thoughts exactly.
Didn't know you had a Firebird/Trans Am they are cool cars and a lot of fun.
There's a video of him and see milk driving it around. Its 80s i think
The clip at the end of the announcer saying smoking on the train could lower your social credit score was terrifying.
I rode some high speed trains in Japan and they felt like they weren’t even moving
If found they ware shaking after having the habit of Chineses and Frenchs one :(.
Me too. And the Shinkansen is 60s technology
7:14 "yes in china, since they can't afford personal transport" LMAO, could you even imagine how terrible would be if all those people travel in personal transport?
He really seems to think that public transport is for poor people. Even the highly paid people working on Wall Street use public transport each day, because it is the fastest option.
@@skyscraperfan that was exactly the vibe I get from his video. He doesn't like public transport, So he highlights and searches for the worst parts of it to make it look like is all hell on earth for people to ride trains there.
I'm a US citizen but I live and work in China and have for 8 years. My family and I ride the high speed rail often and have never experienced any trouble or witnessed any of the things you show in your video. in fact, I've quite enjoyed every trip we've made, much easier than airlines. Yes, accidents happen and yes the gov. probably doesn't handle these sorts of 'image' things the way it should much of the time but there are inconsiderate people and corrupt gov. officials everywhere. you appear to have exaggerated and sensationalized things to get clicks. This is just as bad as the pro china propaganda, only it's anti-china. Two wrongs don't make a right, and you're contributing to misunderstanding and playing into people's xenophobia and racism. I'm not saying whether China or USA is 'better', they're different and each has its positives and negatives - however the cost of living here is such that my family and I are able to enjoy a lifestyle much better than I would be able to in the US
^^^^chinese communist bot
@@inflixi187 says the guy who's only post is a rap about a bank hiest lol
This guy always posts anti China posts. He’s one of the trolls created by Langley. Langley spent billions on anti China campaign.
You don't live in China because RUclips is banned there. Nice try troll.
@@rajeshkumarm6441 The guy been living in china for many years, he knows it from the inside. People always stayed in China but when it comes to the crucial decision where to make their future EVERYONE LEAVE the shithole, including you.
Spent a lot of time on high speed trains while I was in China and had no issues.
Just because you don’t experience it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen
@@Showastatism4life how so?
@@mickdalrymple6425 I actually experienced the vibrations a few times, not only that but the times I have gone on it, it’s incredibly loud and while smoking is rare I have still occasionally encountered it, and just the peoples I’ve encountered are the worst!
@@Showastatism4life High speed trains on sleepers is nothing new to vibrations. The mitigation of the vibrations are it's own industry.
This channel does nothing but cherry pick the worst it can find about China. As if informing was needed. When the west has a mountain of it's own problems. Being pretentious is all this channel does.
I bet the channel would promote the lie about Uyghur genocide too, if it could.
@@Showastatism4lifeIf you smoke, you will be detained. You are very good at lying.
I believe the crowded scenes are during Chinese new year holidays?
I was blown away by your subscription numbers. It's a crazy world.
it's American, so not surprised.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US KNOWLEDGE OF CHINA
I think school is the place to get knowledge and traveling is a method to see for yourself
I traveled to China and lived there. I saw for myself. Video he's showing is what I remember. Awful stressful experience on high speed trains.@@dleu1234
@@dleu1234Yeah but I’m not going to China. Not now, not ever.
What happened if the knowledge you are getting is wrong??
@@dleu1234 This video is BS. Chinese highspeed trains are good. There are more video's about them. Look it up.
What a horrible dystopian reality.
Reminds me of a flight I took with China Eastern Airlines, mid flight as I went to the restroom 🚻 all the folks in the back had their feet up and a thick stench of gas waffling in the air.
jet fuel gas ? or a really really toxic smelling gas ?
@@brewcrew5854 Clearly they mean the people breaking wind. Flew through Beijing one time and had a similar experience. They just have no control or scruples, basically peasants with money, and way too many of them. They should try to be like the refined Taiwanese and have some class.
I suppose it's their way of enforcing distance,as they seem to be all over each other in public.
Note to self: Pack plenty of baked beans for my next Chinese holiday.
I had been on china train in every city. China Beijing guangzhou wuhan and many more. I enjoyed the ride. It was cheap and affordable. Better go and take the trains there to see real life experience
One of the first rules i learnt in China, don't do things when everyone one else does. Go to lunch half an hour early, everything's ready and no queues. Go home 20 minutes early and you have a queue of taxis waiting for you. Work from home in the morning and go to the office mid morning. Easy life.
Same rule applies to the whole world.
Not to the same extent. I exaggerated with 30 minute, you could go 10 minute early to lunch and it would be empty when you walked in and full with a long queue by the time i was finished.@@dleu1234
American has much slower trains, and they still crash and derail. A train crashes into a terminal and killed people on the platform, because the USA still didn’t have positive train control. Trains in Florida keep hitting cars, cuz we were too cheap to grade separate the tracks. The overcrowding seems like it’s a victim of its own success, and they need more trains.
If America genuinely wanted and needed to do trains well, it would. It simply doesn't because people prefer their cars.
Accidents happen all the time with all things, minimizing the likely-hood is always done, but the present American government is not doing its job so we need a change of government unlike China which won't allow that. - China is another kettle of fish I'm afraid - glad I don't live there.
and this shows that you have clearly no idea about anything america related. @@fs5775
ofc you are glad since you believe propaganda videos like this. you have never been there so you think that what this propagandist show is 100% factual. shows how easy it is to brainwash people like you@@ladybug591
Extremely slow, shaky, and non-working wifi.
Most Americans don’t know this but they in fact have better trains than China
Howa. I've just travelled from Beijing to Shanghai via speed rail. It was tereible. Upon my landing in China and crossing airport customs, I got an SMS that simply said "No tickets were issued for your booking". Well, then... 6 hours of hell on Beijing south. 15 attempts of booking. Only one succeeded. No service in English, everything bookes within 2-3 days but magically I found last ticked for the next day. So, a night in filthy hotel, here we go.
The train was really good tbh, way better then economy class flight.
it is the Chinese new year holiday recent days, and billions of people will use the trains to back home. and most of them had booked the tickets at least 15 days in advance.
@@pipiqiqi4010 yeah... Now I understand how good are hated by everyone trains in my country XD
go speak chinees in usa
@@paulx3827So, in my non-English speaking country at least in capital (Moscow, Russia) at railway stations there are quite a lot of english-speaking personal. Beijing's railway terminals are way bigger and way busier. They've got only two cashiers at whole station!
The Shinkansen in Japan, where high speed rail actually began around 1964, is actually a miracle.
Is it actually? Or actually do you know how to use the word actually?
@@BlownMacTruck shush.
Rode it three weeks ago. Highly impressed.
Every year in the United States, 30,000 people are killed in vehicle collisions with another 100,000 injured. Yet, nobody talks about it.
While it's not a cover up, it's something most drivers and passengers are unaware of and THAT is part of why the problem persists.
The U.S. is 5 times bigger than most countries. Any stats have to take into account the fact that the total number of miles traveled per year by car, in ths U.S., is likely many times higher than most other countries.
@@matthewmosier8439 - Here's a stat to consider, despite the size of the US, vehicle collisions are one of the leading causes of death for people under 18 in the US.
Regardless, my point with the original comment was to make a commentary reply to the video on the danger facing people in the "civilized world" everyday that we don't even consider because it is very, very rarely talked about.
I do find it ironic, and sad, that we have teens calling for gun restrictions when guns aren't a leading cause of death for teens. Meanwhile, many teens are eager to get behind the wheel of a 4,000 lbs guided missile without even considering that it is also a potentially deadly weapon and there aren't any noteworthy calls by teens for more vehicle operator restrictions.
@@Texas240 That's a good observation.
But I'm always careful not to feed the 50 cent army.
They constantly quote statistics trying to give the impression that the U.S. has a problem with something to cover up the problems in their country.
That was why I called out your comment.
It usually becomes quickly apparent which people are genuinely trying to have a discussion and which people are just handwaving in an attempt to cover for a foreign country.
@@Texas240 I don;t know how it is in other states, but in Georgia it is _pathetically_ easy to get a license. Illegals drive around unlicensed all the time. The members of the infamous 13% of the US population who reside here can't drive worth a crap, and have a horrible "me first" attitude that causes tons of accidents. I've seen the most absurd behaviors on the road out of them. Utterly reckless behavior. I've seen them hit stationary objects when parking, then shrug and walk away. Driving on the wrong side of the road is just normal for them.
I absolutely agree about teens as well. Getting a license to begin with should be _far_ more difficult than it is, and there should be periodic retesting, and more frequent with the elderly. Public schools need to bring back driving classes.
@@matthewmosier8439 While it is correct that for comparison reasons you have to calculate death per capity, vehicle miles driven has nothing to to with that statistics.
Except when you want to argue that you just have to design your cities in a way that people don't have to use a car to get a bag of milk or to their neighbor next street.
Like stop putting everythign far away from everythign else, stop making a race course out of everything and stop building those awful stroads.
I'm confused, in one video it was really dense and noisy, and in other videos, people were lying down on two seats. So which one is it?
Me, watching this on a high speed train from Shenzhen to Guangzhou: interesting.
I hope your tooth filling are still intact if the video is to be believed.
I have travelled by high speed train from Shenzhen to Guangzhou (Dec 2023), but didn't encountered any of those, perhaps you need to experience it to believe or was I lucky one.
@@jcmixedchannel7341This is just another angle of attack against China by those ex-colonists who is finding increasingly difficult to lay a hand on China. To their disgust, China is moving ahead, while the ex-colonists are wallowing in their own mess, and are going backward in many ways. The UK is in recession. That's all I need to say. It carried on about "the Golden Era with China is over". Judging by evidence, the golden era of the UK is over.
Clearly not biased.
@@WalkOverHotCoal the ride was smooth as silk, as always. However Shenzhen-Guangzhou is just over 1 hour, not exactly a cross country journey. It would be nice if the video mentioned exactly when and on which line that the shaking was occurring!
I have heard that on the train to Lhasa, Tibet, people died due to elevation sickness. Only after the number of riders to decrease, they began providing oxygen. Although Lhasa is at an elevation of 11,000+ feet, the rail line goes above 14,000 feet.
Also, the high-speed rail technology was stolen from Japan.
Source ,m proof ???
I have been living in China for over 7 years and never ever seen this on a high speed train before. 🤦🏾♀️it’s fast (no shaking) clean no over crowding and NO smoking.
This guy is white nationalist. (Nazi) Don't take him seriously.
@@miga-x of course but not to this level. They just add more trains to the timetable to accommodate the extra traffic
拥挤的列车是普速列车不是高铁,普速列车会出售无座票,高铁不会出售
So you left China 7 years ago and has since then only used proper HSR? Good for you, no wonder you never experienced a shaky or noisy ride, HSR are designed to run smooth and silent, at least in the developed world.
You did a spelling mistake. It should be living not leaving.
Can't wait to watch this after work
Are these not edge cases? Like a lot of this you will see in trains all around the world, even in europe
Suicide by train is also a big problem in Germany. I used to teach English to the lawyers at deutsche rail in Germany. They explained how suicides by train were a constant problem.
I took the train from Nanjing to Shanghai in 2015 and had a pleasant trip. The cars were pretty full but not packed. Hit 212 MPH. But I probably visited China at the most opportune time in history. Things have changed.
Bad example. I travelled on one at some ridiculous speed and we didn’t even feel like we were moving
yeah i went on the high speed route from shenzhen futian to guangzhou south and the ride was buttery smooth
You are pulling the leg ...been many times to China. Last time Bullet Train Beijing to Cangzhou and back after visit to a factory. Smooth ride 305km/h max. Felt like on a plane and this is a fair opinion.November last year.
Masses of overcrowded trains. People getting squeezed in cars like cattles. Hours if commuting standing everyday. You jus5 described a regular day in Tokyo.
Yes. But you wouldn't hear that perspective from Serpentza. His RUclips business modele is anti-China , not anti-Japan. Unlike Chinese subways, the seats on the Tokyo subways are padded though which is a nice touch if you can get one. As a foreigner navigating the Japanese subways was a nightmare with so many different lines and stations and platforms. An APP was essential. Chinese subways are a model of simplicity and consistency in comparison.
I’ve been using Chinese rails for so long, I personally never experienced such issues, China rails is one of the most advanced projects in the world
Trollo
I’ll stay in America. I live in a rural area and I’m retired. I go out in the morning and feed my livestock, have a cup of coffee and some fresh eggs and run my hound dog. Later I will jump on my gas guzzling large American pickup truck with the dog and take the boat out for a little fishing. Come home, have a few beers, clean and cook the fish and tell my wife bullsh!t fishing stories. This way of life here is not lost, it’s ignored.
It's not ignored. I think in fact it can be hard to find a place that is isolated, cabin in the mountain sotospeak. But not so ignored
more like just staying out of urban area in general?
go vegan more food and healthy. More profit too since crops can be grown which yields more revenue. yes
Okay, boomer
China really did a great job in terms of HSR deployment. Better we appreciate this fact.
I'm from India.
An Indian commenting on the state of trains. That's quite humorous!
@@UnitSe7en U r dumbbb 4 sure 😂 Damn sure India has better infra than that of urs 4 sure 😊
When is the next positive video of China coming?
I remember you used to put out dozens of great videos when you lived in China and they tended to be somewhat positive.
Thank you
mighty suspicion: Serpentza has cultivated an audience that likes to dunk on China, hence he's incentivized to cater to them
(there is LOTS that's horrible about mainland China, but full trains… seriously?)
He needs money now. Truth is not important to him anymore.
China was in fact a more positive place under its former leader Hu Jintao.
@@itrytobeanonymoustoo5289 that's over 10 years ago
he got kicked out of China. now he cries about chian and post propaganda crap. this is all he does now. so no there will never be good videos anymore about china. only crap like this.
I have always lived in China, and your perspective and propositions astonish me greatly. These mixed videos deliberately blur the lines between 'everyday life' and 'extraordinary circumstances,' 'past' and 'present,' and then draw sensational conclusions. I believe that those who have recently traveled by HSR, or are currently living in China using HSR, would find it hard to agree with your conclusions, as most of them would have a completely different experience from what is portrayed in your video. Some comments under your video mention issues like being loud or playing videos without headphones; if you were talking about these phenomena, I believe you would have garnered more agreement. However, you chose a more extreme angle. If your goal was to make many people who have never been to China dislike it, I think you have succeeded.
This person has lived in China before but did not obtain a Chinese green card. After leaving China, he began to oppose China. There seems to be something wrong with his mind.
He was paid to smear. Good income.
It seems like people decided to believe him more than you, regardless the video was so fake and manipulated. Shame on this channel, channel of American brain wash station.
what do you expect this is a us propaganda channel
thats his whole channel smearing China because he got kicked out of China.
I know the video is more serious, but that sponsor segment was great. I love it when people do sponsor segments where it's just something low quality and cheesy, but gets the point across well enough.
It's all BS though. Every proper modern Program, E-Mail Client/Browser uses HTTPS. Which is encrypted. That is super good enough for the average person.
Now you're trusting the VPN Provider with that Data instead of the ISP you're connected to. Hardly a difference.
It may even be a downgrade. Since all of your Data now goes through their Service and not just the Stuff you're checking.
If you really value your safety, then host your own VPN. Or use one a Person runs you trust personally.
Yes the Man in the Middle can still see the Host domains of the Website you're browsing, maybe he can see images, he can see the secondary services your browser conects to, to load functionality for the Website, but it can't see more.
VPNs have their Place however but security isn't it. If you're not self hosted you're pretty much done for. And even then, you have to be on your game to make sure, that nothing happens.
I was on a China high speed rail train to and from the Kowloon West station to ChangSha about 4 weeks ago. The ride was as smooth as a baby's behind. I would question where you got your video footage from.
This for what you said at 7:19, public transportation isn't just for poor people, I know that isn't what you said, but it sounds like are very strongly implying it. The notion that cars are the best way to get around is just perpetuated by America being #1 and having a car centric transportation system. Look at Japan for example, everybody uses the bullet trains to get around between big cities and most people using it are working class average people (even rich people use them).
I have been to China last July. The train rides from Beijing to Jinan were super smooth and convenient. It was on time as well. Then I road the high speed rail in Shenzhen. Super quick, smooth, and quiet.
Ive been on it from Cinq Dao to Beijing. It was nothing like this. Smooth, comfy, fast and a free butty.
You are paid by CPC and CCP and PRC.
嘘,不要这样说,我们宁愿他们活在谎言里。可惜被谎言蒙骗的都是普通人。那些统治阶级的统治者心里面可是清清楚楚明明白白的
There is no need for any reason to smear him. Once he comes to China, he will know everything, but he just wants to smear China’s high-speed rail
@@single7269 remember, earning money on youtube is quite ez. as long as u make fake news about china u gets many views
It would probably be hard to judge the whole railway system one way or another based on this journey, because you’re going to built up coastal areas.
I would be more curious to see how good it is further inland on smaller, less well known routes. I would also be curious to see what it looks like in 10-20 years. I bet the wear and tear will be tremendous.
When you see Winston’s videos, you have to understand that he’s pointing out the worst. And I get it. You can’t simply say good things and expect the worst to improve. I would also argue that among other things, you can tell a lot about a society by how it treats the poorest/least important people. The implication in his videos is that the poorest/least important in China are treated as sub human and are not cared about.
I can tell you having Chinese in-laws who are from the lower class, this is absolutely true. The buildings and infrastructure look very different when you go out to the outlying areas away from the coast. They have no hope for a better future in China, because despite being good and honest Christian people, society looks down on them. The only hope for a better life is for them to come here to America.
After looking at this video, and after the incident in Beijing, among many others, I can proudly say "Good that I'm not living there! Not even considering going for a visit."
Don't even think 😅 your not needed in china ❤ don't come stay at your place 😂
@BoazKiriama-do3xy , if you think China doesn't need my money or my investment, that's great news. I'll go to Taiwan instead and say Hi to the fairly democratically elected William Lai.
Investment? Are you going to open an hotdog stand in China? That's sound Hugh, however, I don't think the Taiwanese likes hotdog.
This channel is really f up lol
@@t_w_7821 Well, he is from the perfect U.S The A, so China is bad compare to a perfect country.
do we in the UK - with our abysmal train service - have any right to criticise any other country's rail service ?
The phrase "Those in Glass Houses shouldn't throw Stones" springs to mind.
At least the Chinese trains do move occasionally.
Having just spent a week in the UK, your rail service isn't THAT bad. It's still light years better than US rail service. I was still able to get around without a car pretty decently, even into rural Wales. And London is super easy to get around
HaHa - ask anyone who lives here - one example = the west coast pendolino is widely touted as a 200mph train - what a laugh - it never goes more than 40 fucking mph all the down to London - I know because I have used it many many times - our rail service is a joke & most 3rd world countries do far better@@mrvwbug4423
The Chinese HSR is alright. I wouldn't take 2 hour ride if I can help it. Most of the rides I've taken are smooth. BTW, people are actually using it as daily commute.
I have traveled to high-speed rail in Japan and Taiwan and had the best experience ever, nothing like China.
never been to China then i see. you just see this video and believe it. this shows how easy it is to brainwash people like you
have you travelled HSR in China?
This simply means you have never been to China. Liar just like a Serpent?
i guess you never experienced Chinese high speed
One of reasons why high speed rail has never taken off in USA is due to highly reliable air travel network in USA.
You make some great comments about the China High Speed Trains. I used them between 2011 to 2013, but it was never as portrayed here. We travelled at speeds up to 304km/h, and there was very little vibration inside the Train. Seating was good, with nobody in the Aisles sleeping or making trouble. One other thing that impressed me, was that the Stations that where I boarded the HS Train, were immaculately clean. Not a single scrap of any Litter, either on the Station Platforms or on the Tracks! But here is where I always felt very uncomfortable: Chinese New Year! This period in early February is when you simply cannot move - whether this is at an Airport or Train Station. You really get pushed and shoved in some of the most 'unruly' queuing that I have ever seen. Greetings from Australia.
He simply hates China. He is always looking for the worst videos. You could do that in any country.
This channel is a psyop lmao
I use to like to watch this guy but I find this video paint a false picture
Look at the west with Boeing issues. You would be mad to try and travel during Chinese holidays and it is easy to avoid these days.
It looks like he has an axe to grind with China now
@@EEEEEEE354 whats a psyop?
@@kindabent3275 psychological operations. Channels like this are a dime a dozen on RUclips. All the information is poorly researched, false, or exaggerated. It's like red scare 2.0. the entire idea is it's not just an independent channel made by some dude. He is being paid by someone to convey this message, as are DOZENS of other very similar RUclips channels. Not all information here is wrong, but the narrative he tries to spin is clear and is incredibly biased. At worst this channel is a psyop, at best it's non-credible propaganda click bait. One needs only to compare actual safety statistics of China high speed rail compared to us rail to get the real picture. For fucks sake we've got the national guard in NYC subways because people are being randomly attacked and several felonies happen per day. Look at how utterly trash the Boston rapid transit system is. Hell, the opening video he shows looks like your average Amtrak trip in some areas. Why doesn't he provide any technical information or legitimate statistics? For what reason was the train shaking in that opening clip? How do we know that was even high speed rail? Only an idiot would fall for this type of nonsense, as his video does not hold up to the most basic level of scrutiny.
my grandpa use to pilot locomotives in china (most for cargo) and he said his train had inadvertently crashed into and killed at least 6 people, and probably more! People are either unaware that a fully-loaded train traveling at high speeds will take a LONG distance to stop, or they simply want to escape the mortal realm
I traveled from Shenyang to Xian in 2014 on a standard train, had the middle bunk, three bunks above each other. Each cabin had 6 bunks. It took about 40 hours of travel time, was a experience, I think I was the only foreigner on the train. Been on the highspeed also, but that was also over 7 years ago, from Xian to Beijing. As the years past I started seeing stuff outside the firewall that made me change my mind about using highspeed rail in China. Stuck to flight, but wouldn't trust the reliability of the C919. Recently got out and back home.
curious what you learned from the outside of the firewall which make you don't want to use high speed railway in China.
@@pipiqiqi4010 News about China, common honest news is everywhere outside China, and not restricted.
I travelled the high speed rail from Shanghai to Beijing and Beijing to Xi'an in 2017 and I had a good experience.
Because interstate and rural rail in Australia is as slow as it is 💩🏠, so anything is an improvement.
@@joematthew8350 what news? details?
My husband had a student in China whose father was a pilot. He forbade her from taking Chinese flights, as he said most pilots got to their positions through guangxi and learned 'on the job', after sleeping through their classes.
Nationality of Xi Jinpig:
daughter: lives in US
brother: australian green card
daughter in law: british green card
sister: canadian citizen
brother in law: canadian citizen
second sister: australian green card
second brother in law: australian green card
Australia doesn't have green cards. neither does Britain. 100% bullshit post
So the United States should support him
An average person in Europe suffers the same inconvenience with public transport. Europe doesn't really have drive in Starbucks, few people can afford that. Overcrowded subways are the norm, especially during rush hour. This doesn't typically lead to violence, because people have empathy for each other, and everyone suffers together. So it's a bonding experience to "crowd swim" basically accidentally hugging everyone on your way to the door when the subway reaches your stop. Theft can happen. Locals watch their wallets. Other than that, it's pretty peaceful on the subway and the tram and the train and the bus.
No they don't. I've lived in Europe all my life and I have never seen people lying down on the aisles of trains or sitting with their feet up on the back of a headrest. On the opposite seat yes, and that's actually not allowed but arrogant inconsiderate people are amongst us no matter where we live. Oh yeah, I can afford Starbucks just as I imagine most people can.
Last train I rode in China had a coal furnace for heating, an open hole squat toilet in the floor and and a sheet across the doorway to the next carriage saying no entry for foreigners. And it was single line working as it was cheaper to build single line tunnels than twin line tunnels! But that was in the days of FEC's and electricity rationing . Mid 90's. Big Big changes since those times...
你啥时候去的?暖炉?上世纪90年代的东西吧
In Seattle, we spend a Billion dollars on light rail, and a train that can seat 100 people comfortably, has four on it.
And 2 are Fentanyl addicts just looking for a place to sleep it off.
@@brianbrotherston5940 And all those Billions of dollars of taxation destroy jobs, and this tends to hurt the poor much more than the rich. And very few people use the choo-choo trains.
@@freesk8 At least it's better than China. Anything's better than china
What's 'Seattle'?
@@johnmc3862 Great question! Some people think it is the largest City in the State of Washington, which is in the NW corner of the contiguous United States. Others see it as a socialist experiment gone horribly wrong. In any case, we have a light rail program that is billions of dollars over budget and which is used by very few people. The vast majority of us would rather use cars. But the politicians force us to pay for the choo-choo train because the builders and contractors give them lots of bribes. Also, our traffic on our roads is really bad, and most people are hoping OTHER people will use the train instead, and that will reduce congestion. But that obviously will never work. :)