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How To 02: Spacer Leveling Kit 5th Gen Toyota 4Runner
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2017
- In this How To episode of SnailTrail4x4, Jimmy Jet shows you how to Install a Pro Comp spacer leveling kit onto a 5th Generation Toyota 4Runner.
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“What is that?
It’s in the way.
Cut it!!”
-Said every DIY mechanic ever lol.
Thank you so much for this video! It took me about 2 hours to do the first side figuring everything out and 30 minutes to do the second side once I knew what I was doing, thanks to this video! :)
The magic tool for this job is a
14mm ratchet wrench for the top shock bolts, especially the one in the back.
I did this on saturday. have to watch out for those rear brake lines. Disconnected the brackets that held them after I saw they were being stretched. Also, I disconnected the track bar and sway bar and everything shifted about 1-2 mm and it was such a PITA to line it back up. Glad it's done!
Good job, I'm happy to hear you took this project on by yourself. Definitely disconnectimg the break lines is a good idea. You don't want the axle to be healed up by that rubber hose.
use a bottle jack on top of the rear axle and extend it all the way under the rear bump stop. This means you don't have to disconnect anything in the back! :)
This is a good suggestion, thanks for the advice.
I tried that method the other day and almost busted the rear strut. I wouldn't recommend it
@@byinyang7060 I used the bottle jack from my 4runner and did not break anything and in fact worked like a charm since i did not have a second person for the job. The key here is to gently hand screw the jack as you put slight pressure down on the axle to get the distance you need to lift in the spring. Never force it- just gentle pressure
Should I be prepared to also do a wheel alignment after the leveling kit goes on ?
You said those little chrome spacers are to lower the skid plate but arent they actually to lower the front differential so the half shafts arent always at such a angle
are you wearing protective flip-flops?
That's what millennials do they wear flip flops when they do something
Here in Hawaii its been a fad for ages...it goes Barefoot, flip flops then shoes if Required!
🤣
Nothing says badass like working in the shop in ‘Mandles’!😂😂😂😂 hell yeah
Glad you agree, gotta be safe though
SnailTrail4x4 I say that because I spent years working in the shop with my dad. That’s all we wore.
Thanks for a high quality video. I'm doing this on my 4th gen and because we are the same suspension you're video was super helpful.
Super glad it help. Thanks for commenting and letting me know.
For the back spacers dont you put the spacers in with the lip inside the coil then the boot on top? Seems like that would secure it better
I thought so also but that's what the instructions said
Thanks for the video sir. I’m doing this to my 5th gen 4R. Installing 285/70/17 let’s see if there’s slight rub...
My guess is no rubbing
Did you get any rubbing?
@@bholman8653 no rubbing
Wish it was that easy on the limited with Xreas. Even thought the manual states that you can disconnect the Xreas at the QD points if all 4 tires are in the air; I do not want to really mess with the Xreas lines. I have a Frankenstein lift kit waiting to be installed. Rear spacers and diff drop are from Ready lift and the front spacers are "non clocked" modified ( Readylift) spacers where the original shock bolts are still in line with the new bolts that attach to the tower. Due to the way the Xreas lines attach to the struts you can not clock the strut otherwise you will stretch the Xreas lines to there breaking point at full droop.
That's great to know, thanks.
Nice diagram. Made sense when you drew it out
Awesome, thanks
Good shit man! I listen to your pod cast. I also wrench in my sandals 🔧 !
Saftey shop sandals
So do I. Lmao
Hi , I just installed a leveling kit on my 2016 toyota 4runner, and somehow after I was done, abs ,vsc ,lights on and 4×4 icon flashing, any suggestions ?
YES!! - Need some new coil overs and rear shocks now. Coming Soon!
I am a newbie and installed lyft 2 inch spacers on the front. I have seen this video in detail and I have a serious question, what are the "SKID PLATE EXTENSION" for? don't install them and ask if this will give me trouble. Thank you.
They are for if you do a diff drop. If you can. Put your skidplate on without busing them then you probably don't need them
That’s the way the 4runner TRD should cone from the factory. Looks great. Thanks for the video.
+LSanti -- haha I totally agree. Some company should make trucks on 37 from factory.
I just got an SR5 and you make all this stuff look easy.
Thanks, it just takes a little time. This 10 min video took us almost 6 hours, and that includes all the filming.
@@SnailTrail4x4You also went through a lot of unnecessary parts removal
If your installing just a spacer why even take the full strut out? Can you just leav it in and screw the spacer on top and re assemble the knuckle bolts?
Yeah, definitely, we wanted to show everyone what we were doing
I did my without losing control arm chamber, that will create a major alignment
This video saved my ass big time. So glad I came across this!!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. How did that leveling kit affect the ride?
Unless this is American Idol....music is never really a requirement. My humble observ. Great tutorial by the way. Minus the flip flops. Kids don't do this at home. You could lose a toe. Wear proper safety gear at all times.
When I add music people tell me to stop, when I don't have music people tell me to add it, sorry I can't please everyone so I do what I like
My 2023 2wd 4runner says to remove the brackets on you sway bar and other nuts to get the strut out. Why is yours so easy. Could you come to my house and help me do it that way thanks. Phil
I just ordered my block from Toytec, I will still need an alignment but does $200 seam a little high just to have them put on just on the front , doesn’t seam like that much work ?
No, that doesn't sound like it's to high to me. It's almost the exact work as a suspension lift.
You still have to remove the coil overs to add the spacer.
I like how casual you are... I would totally freak out if I had to take mine apart but Thank You So Much tho.
Question do the Levelers put pressure on the axles or make the tires wear irregularly, thx again, 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
anything different from OEM specs can "technically" put pressure on other parts of the suspension but if you install the parts correctly and take the vehicle to get aligned asap there shouldnt be a problem with modification
I have this same kit on my 2010 4Runner and it is raked ... not leveled at all. And no the rear won’t settle it will always be raked
Exire Zuterk I removed it for the eibach coilovers but it was still raked
Exire Zuterk spacer lift isn’t the way to go, Ik they are cheap but save up for a quality coil over. Well worth it
Nice and thank you for the clarity and step-by-step. Have you noticed a need to relocate the front bump stop? I understand that with spacer lifts like this they can render the factory-located front bump stop inoperable making the shock your compression limiter (not ideal and a $pendy bump stop). Thanks. I've gained info through many of your other posts and write-ups.
You do bring up a good point, but we haven't seen it as an issue. I might go so far out as to say that most stock shocks have the room for expansion like a small 1-1.5 in lift.
Moar questions:
@ 2:55 when the rotated strut doesn't line up with LCA bracket, could you just turn the strut bottom with an aligning bar in the bottom hole and turning, or would you have to compress the spring for this to work? thanks
figured this out on a buddy's rig. Yup. When the top of the strut is mounted you can spin the bottom using an alignment tool to line it up in the strut mount bracket on the LCA.
Ciao and great videos!
Did you have to swap out the needle bearing for a bushing?
We didn't on this application, it wasn't making any noise
Where you checking your with your level to make sure it was riding level. Were you checking it, on the side frame rails?
Ground to wheel arch
@@SnailTrail4x4 Yes but the frt and rr wheel arches aren't the same, are they?
2018 4Runner here -- Can anyone provide the torque specs for the FRONT reassembly? The x3 top strut nuts, the lower shock bolt, the lower control arm CAM bolt and the x2 lower knuckle mounting bolts? I have googled but to no luck. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the video! Just got a 2019 4Runner TRD, and recently ordered 2.5" spacers for the front. Is there a need to remove the skid plate and add spacers to the skid plate? Will there be rubbing while off-roading? Thank you!
If you're going to loosen the Lower Control Arm (LCR) are to make it easier to fit the spacer into place you will need to remove the skidplate. You can probably get it down without loosing the LCA, but it's more difficult. The running comes from your tires and wheels choice not from the lift so I can't answer that without knowing the size of the tires, wheels, offsets/backspacing or if your going to add wheel spacers.
Do you have to put a leveling kit on the rear and front?
Realistically, do I need new shocks right away if I only do a front leveling kit?
Nope, your probably fine
So if I want 2 " of lift in the front total not 3" what size spacer do I use?
Did you have bottoming sound after the specer was installed ?
Great video, so on the rear it doesn't matter if I put the 1" spacer, you still put it on top of that plastic right the one that looks like a cone???
It matters by your kit. Follow the instructions.
The sleeve spacers used in this video are not correct for this vehicle and are going to crack the top factory spring locator. There’s another video where the guy double checked the application and said they were listed for the 5th gen But if that’s the case it is the worst engineering imaginable and anyone who would be attempting to install them should stop immediately and go with a different brand that goes and hangs over the top of the spring and then has the taper on top to sit into the vehicle female recess properly which these in the video also do not have!!
@@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST Do you have any recommendations for a better kit leveling kit that is
Hey SnailTrail. In your opinion how much inch of spacer do your diff drop need with each 1" of spacer lift on a 5th Gen 4Runner? Say I lift 2.5inch at front, you think my one inch of diff drop from my Revtek 1.5 levelling is enough. Thanks.
Yes I think that's perfect. I've heard you don't need a diff drop till you're at 3" of lift, but your 2.5" is close enough, and it's better safe than sorry
I just got done doing my brand new fifth generation front and back and I went back to this video to check on something and took a closer look at those rear spacers… They should have NEVER been put on the vehicle because they are an engineer an disaster!! That extended section that you put down word is going to probably eventually break the factory spring seat/bump stop locator AND The top of those spacers do not have the proper shape (a radius/angle on the outside like the Daystar and Rancho) to properly center and seat themselves into the upper spring recess. Your intuition was correct and those need to come out and go in the trash. Look online at the other brands and you’ll see what I mean. That company you used is a train wreck.
They are long gone, this rigs suspension has changed many times
If this is a leveling kit to raise the front, why are you also raising the rear?
It's a 3" front and a 2" rear and that does a lift and level at the same time.
very nice looking 4Runner!
Thanks, keep your eyes open new videos to come
Could you add any torque spec needed for this? (unless i missed them some where). Thanks
The torque specs should be in the video is there any that I missed?
@@SnailTrail4x4 oh, sorry...Thanks
Hello. Will level kit cause alignment issues or will i have to compromise on onroad comfort by adding leveling kit? Please help.
It won't change your alignment, it might change a little bit of your camber and Caster but not enough to truly be noticeable.
Your ride might be a little bit more stiff and might not handle as well because your center of gravity is slightly higher but it's a matter of if you want the vehicle to look level or ride better. If you have the kdss the difference in drivability wasn't very noticeable at all.
Anytime you alter your suspension get an alignment. Always get one after a leveling kit, will save your tires
Hi Jimmy, Thanks for the great video, did you figure out if the rear studs needs to be replaced or factory is just fine?
Did the plastic seat after all or did you have to cut???
Question, do u think i need a diff drop with bulletin 6112 lift?
I’ve been following your instructions on my 4 runner, I have everything bolted up now I’m having an issue connecting my control arm to the hub what next? Lol
Can you explain what is going on? Are they simply not close enough to bolt together? Are they not aligning?
Can someone explain why ProComp and other vendors would sell a 2 inch spacer lift without new shocks if they are required? For example, Rough Country's site doesn't mention anything about needing new shocks with its 2 inch lift kit. I don't get it. Thanks
right. might as well just save a little more and replace shocks/springs.
I’m new to this, can you explain what is the reason for leveling kit.
Thanks
+SuperJimmy971 -- Great question, it's all about appearance. Some people don't like the way it comes stock with the front one imch lower then the rear. There is no major performance upgrade from doing this install.
SnailTrail4x4 well doesn’t leveling kit add ground clearance ? And the ability to fit bigger tires? Which = to performance when off-road?
P.S. love your video!
Hmm, so some people actually prefer the look of back end dragging, front end nose up in the air, as it would likely do with the truck "leveled" when carrying passengers and cargo in the back?
@@SnailTrail4x4 People always say the spacers don't "enhance performance." But as someone who drives on the beach and Rocky trails a bunch I'm thinking the extra height will indeed enhance the rigs overall offroad performance in those situations. Granted the suspension has not been enhanced. But the extra height enhances the overall options of where you can take the rig, no? I know when I'm in some of the deeper tire ruts on the beach I get sand going into that vent thing on the OEM front skid. Sometimes sand on top of the control arms as well. I'm hoping that a 2 or 2.5" lift will remedy this.
It's so you get the bro lean to the back when you have fat chic's in your rig! Mmmmm bacon!
Hello, thank you for sharing this video, it has been really helpful,. I'm about to buy a leveling kit, I have a Toyota 4runner 2014 SR5, and i would like to lift the front to vw even with the rear. My question is, why do I have to remove the skid plate and also do I need to lift the back?
You have to unbolt the skidplate from the frame, 4 or 6 bolts.
Yes when leveling your 4runner you need to lift the rear. Measure how high your rig sits now, notice the front and rear are different. When ordering your leveling kit find the kit that lifts the height you want and will level the rig
Where can I find the proper torque when putting everything back together?
I really need to make a spread sheet
Jimmy, I have a question.
So, let's say this is good for 3". Is it still good if you have a 1" body lift and how much or how long travel gives you? Planning to take my end links to get more travel. Thanks.
Spacer lifts or body lifts don't give you any additional travel over stock. All the do is make more room for larger tires.
Gracias 🙏 excelente tu video.... fue de gran ayuda 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
I have a 2013 2x4 and I have 3in spacers how do I install??
@SnailTrail4x4 How do you know if the control arm bolts are tight enough? Do you need a torque wrench for that?
Yeah, and I'm not sure the torque but it's high, that or get it right and take it to an alignment shop
Loved the voice over with Jon
Great job once again man!
Hi great video!!! 👍👍👍 I have a 2012 TOYOTA 4RUNNER that I would like to put a liftleveling kit on to it!!! I would like to get some of your advice as to which one I should go with!!! I'm doing it for cargo weight purposes, another words I will be carrying about 700lbs to 800lbs of car audio equipment in the rear cargo area!!! So I would appreciate any advice as to what would be a good liftleveling kit to go with considering the amount of weight I will be careing around!!! The tires that I had in mind of using are 275/55R20's or 275/60R20's ultra high performance all season tires!!! Your help and advice would be much appreciated thank you!!! Once again great video!!! 👍👍👍
The leveling kit linked below is a great simple kit. It shouldn't have any problems fitting your tires and you won't have to do any body mount trims till a large 33" (295/55 r20). I was thinking about your weight and I would get some Toytec heavy duty rear coils. But 800lbs is about 4 adult males and the truck should be able to handle that.
Hello and thanks for the video. In some tutorials I see a use of "arm puller" when removing front struts. Is it necessary and how/where do I use it? I have a 2010 limited with X-reas.
+Alex Dorozhkin -- we didn't need to use an arm puller or spring compressors.
When you unbolt the spindle from the upper control it gives you all the room you need. You can also watch the video how to level a 4runner and we hand to remove the struts there also. It will have you another perspective.
SnailTrail4x4 thank you!
did you have, later, to change your rear shocks??
Yes we did, but we also changed the complete lift to a suspension upgrade
Thanks for making this video! Will be getting some spacers and installing based on this. It looks like you did suggest upgrading the rear shocks. I’m curious if it is necessary, and if you know of any risks of not replacing the shocks after installing the spacers?
How often do you go off-roading?
SnailTrail4x4 not super often! And nothing crazy
@@ChrisMeierSF -- Then you'll probably be fine all in all
Thanks @@SnailTrail4x4! Appreciate the guidance :)
8:50 EEK watch those rear brake lines!
Hows the ride quality after doing something like this?
It's a bit stiffer then stock but for the most part any lift would be.
Never fails. Whenever I work under my rig without safety glasses stuff falls in my eyes.
Haha, max I know how you feel. That's why I try and avoid Mudd as much as possible.
@@SnailTrail4x4 Flip flops were a nice touch too LOL great video though.
1:10 So how come the control arm waited for you to put the floor jack before going down?
Did the rear coil spacers end up seating fully once you got everything back together? I've read a bunch of reviews on this Pro Comp kit and that issue came up multiple times. Is it something to worry about or not?
no it never did. we ended up swapping it out for a suspension lift eventually
Great vid Jimmy and informative! I have a leveled 2016 4runner now in Fox 2.0 Coilovers IFP. Can I add a 1” spacer in front so I can get 3” total and 2” spacer at rear?
Yes you can! We did a lift like that a little while ago, just make sure you're not binding the CV's with that 3" lift.
SnailTrail4x4 Thanks Jimmy! What kind of spacer that I can use? Please educate me, what do you mean by CV? I appreciate your time brother!
@@vangeloalmazan4799 -- check out Ekstrom Strut Shims.
SnailTrail4x4 Jimmy thanks. I already ordered the strut shim. I just hope they won’t have some issues eventually with the coilovers.
Quick question, I'm doing a 2 inch leveling kit (rough country) on my 5 gen, Do you think I need hey diff drop kit?
No it's not really required till about 3"
@@SnailTrail4x4 thanks!!
Hi I just got same car as urs. I just want to know did u change the wheel and tires after lift or just keep the original one
Thanks
That cable is the wheel sensor for the ABS...
great job, got a new 4Runner TRD Off Road. Would like to add larger wheels, tires, off R.Bump and a supercharger. Know of a good shop in south Cal.?
No, I'm sorry I don't. I'm no from down that way but I can ask around, if you would like. If so, let me know what area your in, don't be too specific 👍
No, I'm sorry I don't. I'm no from down that way but I can ask around, if you would like. If so, let me know what area your in, don't be too specific
guys, does this effect oem ride quality at all??
Yes, any modification would effect OEM ride quality
Thank you for the video. If I only install a tear 1" spacers lift do I need new shocks? I already have a front 2" lift in the front. Thanks
No, I don't think you would. If you change it above 1" I would look into getting a different set.
Are flip flops required to do the install?
Always! 😜
Do the torque specs come with the instructions?
I'm sorry I don't remember, its been almost a year ago now. Below is Trail4r's install instructions for more information.
trail4runner.com/2017/07/16/spacer-leveling-kit-install-5th-gen-4runner/
here is a lst of torque specs for the 5th gen 4runner trail4runner.com/2020/06/17/5th-gen-4runner-torque-specs/
Did you have to do a different drop?
We did later down the road
How did the rear spacers hold up? Was the gap/ fitment an issue? Thanks
The gap never settled, we ended swapping it out for a suspension lift
@@SnailTrail4x4 did you have a bad ride quality with them?
@@joshuamedeiros6111 -- spacers ride quality arent as good as a full suspension lift, but it was alright
Great video thanks for the information!👍🏻
Thanks, and thanks for taking time to let me know.
Can you post a link of where you purchased the kit?
What happen with the gap on the rear lift?
It's still there
Thanks for this great video.
You're welcome. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to let me know.
Great video Jimmy
Nothing like having a creepy critters fall from the wheel wells best time ever
I just ordered the same kit for my trd pro, how does it affect the ride? Thanks for your input!!
lilstathaki. How did it fit on your trd pro? Was it easy to install?
Hey my friend where can I buy that front leveling kit?
There is a link in the video description
Same steps with KDSS?
Does this lift the whole vehicle or just the body ?
This will lift the entire vehicle, but no improvement to suspension
SnailTrail4x4 gotcha thanks !! In your experience is the Trail Premium Suspension decent enough for 2.5 inch spacers ? Cheers !
It really depends on what type of off-roading you're going to be doing and how aggressive or heavy-footed you are. If you're going to be doing anything more than just fire roads, I would suggest doing a suspension lift. Check out Rough Country they have some good lifts as well, that are not as expensive as king or icon. If you're just looking to get the body a little higher a spacer leveling kit is a good solution
SnailTrail4x4 I'm confused so the spacers just lift the body or the whole vehicle?
James Simpson well the “body” IS actually the whole vehicle
Did you have to do a diff drop?
nope, but I do suggest to do one on anything that is 2.5" or more.
Good video thanks for that, ! just a little advice from an old mechanic you may want to wear some boots drop anything on your toes and you’re gonna have a real bad day!
This was literally one of my first videos, I now wear some toe protection in every video. 👍
SnailTrail4x4 awesome!!
Good job 👍👍👍
Your toe’s bro!
Working in flip-flops
Still have them all
Thanks
Why exactly would you get new shocks
when you're lifting a vehicle the shocks might become your limiting factor on down travel and you never want to exceed the length of the shock because that would be damaging to it
Did you install a diff drop
Why are the shocks needed?
Because your lifting the rig makes a longer distance between the frame and the axle.
You right, makes total sense now. I’m getting mine installed next week, super stoked.
Life saver with loosening the lower control arm
Just make sure you go get an alignment afterwards
Yeah, always should do an alignment after any lift. Loosening the LCA made it 1000× easier than the first time I did this so I really appreciated the tip.
Wouldnt be a complete install without the foot flops
Would this work on a 2008 FJ cruiser
The process would be the same but you might need to find a specific spacer for those coils. I am not sure if this kit works for both.
@@SnailTrail4x4 I have a different kit but the process of installing the leveling kit is the same I just did my fj
@@SnailTrail4x4 as soon as I got the diver side shock off everything else was a piece of cake
Did you have to do a wheel alignment in the front after the level kit was installed
My lawyer would tell me to answer yes. :) Lifting any vehicle will make the alignment slightly off, and sometimes almost undrivable. You should take it in. but if it doesn't feel that bad then you don't need to rush