Yes, in modern terms. However in this case 'cruiser' is probably in reference to the older form of the term from the 17th century in that it is an independently operating warship, a role that frigates took up in the 19th century as the class was formalize to specialize in the 'cruiser' role. The structure of the class explanations suggests a battle-line more akin to the late 19th century to something similar to the Battle of Jutland.
Some modern frigates are as large, and in some cases larger than destroyers. People seem to think ship designation is purely about size, it is not. It is more about role than it is size, though often the role determines the size.
@@skoshman1 Meaning by space human deffinitions it would go back to Corvette/~Patrol --> Frigate/Cruiser --> Battlecruiser/Pocket Battleship --> Battleship/Dreadnaught (although this one defies classic conventions)
@@skoshman1 In fleets that have all the ship types mentioned, that _is_ the order they go in sizes. And yes, age-of-sail frigates did the same job as world war cruisers: big enough to intimidate anything not a warship and cheap enough to operate in large numbers. Late 19th century had some remnants of age-of-sail, but modern ships (for the day) had settled into (torpedo boat) destroyers - cruisers (a mix of protected and armored) - battleships, even if the Royal Navy, for example, had some steam frigates and the like on its rolls until the 1950s, and there was some dispute as to the difference between a big cruiser and small battleship.
@@dwn3rd on the HFY playlist there are videos that are supposed to be private, but can still be seen by the public, when he makes a video (often one shots). Usually 4 months in advance of being "released."
Honestly the easiest way to convince people that we want peace would be to bring the entire 11 disc anthology. By the time they get done listening to it they want peace too.
"No no, we only bring ONE nuke in our back pocket when we're seeking peace. It's when we jam about 148 of our 50 Kg antimatter city-erasers on each strike-fighter craft that we are actually thinking about a war!"
"No, no no! That is an asteroid quarrying payload! Our, quote unquote, "planet crackers" are *much* bigger and could hardly shatter a tectonic plate on a world with an active core! . . . Yes! That was a barren planet with a *dead core*, geez!"
Yup, that's basically post-WWII American naval doctrine in a nutshell; conduct trade with the powerful party, or they will remove your ability to travel and trade over long distances. It's not always an open threat, but the existence of such powerful weapons implies it either way.
@@Voron_Aggrav very true, i was simply referring to the fact that modern global trade is only possible because the US navy suppresses piracy on a global scale; in the past, kingdoms and governments would defend their ports and trade lanes, but anything else was fair game, but now that there's a monopoly of seaborne power, everyone is playing the same game, "play nice, or else"
@@THarSul mean securing trade lanes is still an international effort, French, English and Dutch ships are also patrolling around Somalia, major difference today is that it's more feasible to protect the entire lane instead of just the ships as sails limit you where you can go
@@Voron_Aggrav lol, sure, we can find exceptions to the rule if you want, but buy and large, global trade in the current era is possible because of the power-based security the US navy affords the world's oceans, because regardless of the interactions of allies, they are still the largest blue-water navy on the planet. i clarify blue-water there because technically china has a larger navy in raw numbers, but most of their ships are coastal patrol vessels, and can't be counted on in a naval conflict on open water.
@@THarSul I'm not saying that America doesn't have that, but the way you make it sound is like they're the only ones doing it, whilst the rest of the coastal NATO powers are just as much involved in keeping trade safe,
The Ambassador skipped Carriers though. Would loved to see the aliens reactions when they realize that we bring swarms of tiny hard to target Capital Ship killers.
There is actually a fair degree of disagreement over the idea of Starfighters as a concept. A lot of well versed people are not convinced they would even WORK. To be viable a Starfighter would need to be able to operate from its mother ship for long periods, as short range starfighters kind of defeat the point. That means the fighter must be able to carry the fuel it requires for its mission, the gas and food/water required to keep the crew sustained and, you know, alive, as well as being able to deliver large quantities of ordnance. I hate to break it to you, but a Starfighter is likely going to be considerably larger than most modern transport aircraft, and require a crew of ten or more people to operate. And that is going *small*.
@@alganhar1 parasite frigates/corvettes ships carried by a jump capable starship but incapable of jumping on their own. High firepower but limited range and supplies.
@@alganhar1 I was thinking Multiple function autonomous drones / remote controlled drones. Essentially most are AI controlled with some human controlled ones just because human controlled ones can do stuff out of the box. Carriers would also carry breaching pods, again, with a mix of human marines and AI mechs. AI mechs for chaos and destruction, marines more for capture and strategic boarding.
The problem with Fighter/Bombers, in most cases a warship would have enough defensive firepower to counter them, as they're relatively small craft it's defensive capability would be insignificant and their weaponry likewise would be limited, Unless you've got a size that'd need two dozen or more crew I doubt you'd get much use against capital ships, though they'd be perfect commerce protection ships against lighter ships designed for raiding, or raiders themselves, and in that aspect a carrier would be great hubs for them, I'd envision a long core which has all the facilities and resources along with the jump drive and the ships just dock unto it along four or even five sides in rows along the length of the hub
@@DeadlyblueEdward The spine to get shot and carry on with a speech like nothing happened. Theodore Roosevelt was probably the manliest man to ever live.
Id like to hear more of this- Something akin to "gentle giants" Humans being the most armed species in the galaxy, but also considdered the most peaceful and loyal. No one really fights with them, and its an inside joke that to anger humans is like kicking a sentient bee hive. Its easier to ask for the honey than sticking your claws into it? Idk
In the words of Gen Mattis " I'm going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for the next 10,000 years."
The entire system was reduced to debris, the largest piece of which is no bigger than a marble. When we called in the world cracker, I was certain I saw the bear thing drop a load and turn pale as a ghost.
What was that one story where the aliens are all lined up in old fashioned firing lines in space, and the crew on the one human ship the alien ship are just in there facepalming at the sheer stupidity of it, before jumping above the enemy lines and attacking them with CIWS since they won't even get out of the way?
what I love about this, is the very clear implication, that humanity could fucking CURB STOMP, the federation, but genuinely just wants peaceful relations.
If you're limited in building to the size of an existing warpgate network, yeah, that's gonna heavily influence your construction patterns and naval doctrine. Once you can bypass gates, however...
The best scene in film for the idea of appearances can lead to underestimating is the Star Wars scene where Jedi says..."Always a Bigger Fish" ha my analogy is not so good. But for this story the Human Diplomat ship is a guppy, Alien Waership is a nice big healthy trout in the local pond. The Human Warship is a Shark visiting the pond from the larger Ocean called Milky Way.
@@Voron_Aggrav:-) he he If you want to continue the sequence of Always A Bigger Fish? A very silly scene in Meg vs Octopus ( title is not exact ) has Megalodon the size of 747, attack a plane at cruising altitude. Sci fi book I forgot title to is set in about 1000000 AD; has Space Sharks and entire ecology that lives in vaccuum of space...they exist for a simple and amusing reason, Human Genetic Engineers wanted them to exist! Back to spaceships; in Sci Fi there are multiple Starships that are planetary or even Solar System size. Or most absurd bullet? Nuetron Star accelerated for thousands of years to near light speed...because Humans got pissed off! Ummm to clarify that is actually the second most absurd bullet from story's I have read, and I am not saying the one bigger than that;-
@@filipzajac As I mentioned elsewhere, yes, are thinking in modern terms. However in this case 'cruiser' is probably in reference to the older form of the term from the 17th century in that it is an independently operating warship, a role that frigates took up in the 19th century as the class was formalize to specialize in the 'cruiser' role. The structure of the class explanations suggests a battle-line more akin to the late 19th century to something similar to the Battle of Jutland.
Not inconceivable. The French built several Destroyer Classes prior to WWII that were larger than small cruisers. The Cruiser designation was a role, or a series of roles, not a size indicator. While role often determines size in warships it is not always the case. In this case the Cruiser appears to be a long range patrol vessel capable of operating individually. It might also fulfil the Show the Flag type missions in the Navy as well. Both those roles are traditional Cruiser roles. in fact you can argue with a good deal of success that todays Frigates ARE in fact the Cruisers of modern Navies, as they fulfil most of the roles that Cruisers once did.
@@skoshman1 Dude, the cruiser role you're describing is _exactly_ the role world war-era cruisers were designed to fill. Aside from the ones that were designed to be destroyer leaders, anyway.
i suggest immediate invasion, john. you scared the shit out of them with a transport shuttle, that means their own fleets must be laughable by comparison
@@babla69420 , they can but it looks like they are crying when they do. And I do believe the little crustacean was a little misty eyed for Some Odd Reason.
This reminds me of the scene in the Gregory Hines/Willem Dafoe movie “Off Limits” when the South Vietnamese have them at gunpoint and a Huey gunship shows up and they’re told, “We (the Americans) are *never* outgunned”…
My thoughts went to _Hyperspeed,_ where one of the aliens, helpfully supplied with some human history, recognizes 'peace' as the state of preparing for the next war. Since it decides their fleet is more ready than your ship, the alien decides to take his current odds with your indicated hostile intent rather than waiting until _you_ feel ready.
people it depends on which type of destroyer it is .in Starship classifications and depending on the verses canon. EG starwars destroyers are huge battle ships whereas 40k destroyers are sacrificial ships that screen the Battleships.
Oh come on ! If you could built a space ship to cross the unknown, wouldn't you put in any type of weapons system you could make ? Its not like they 're gonna bomb your homeworlds or anything, not unless you make 'em really mad, by saying disagreeing with them? Yep! That ought to do it!
We all know that sound doesnt travel in space But im pretty sure the captain of that cruiser was wondering what couple dozen of people he heard just rip serious ass
Human: And now, this is our super heavy titan class. TCN Hot Pot. Armed with thirty Type IX Boiler Laser Batteries, twenty Type VII Toothpick Gatling Railguns and a single Type XIII Plasma Planet Searing Cannon serving as its main armament. Lobster Xeno: Oh! What a beautiful warship! I cannot wait to go inside and explore its every nook and cranny. *clap-clap the sound made by the Lobster Xeno's tail as it hit the floor due to his excitement Human: So do we mister Xeno. So... do... we... *licks lips
Never measure your worth by thy neighbor, for you will always be found wanting. But also never be complacent with as is, for there will always be someone better. Be the better then the day before and you will always be the best you can ever be.
That's not weapons it is just miminal protection against navigational hazards. If you have cleaned your space of all such small cold objects I think I know what we have to sell and what we want to purchase with the money received.
Then you need to educate yourself about ship roles. They are not based on size but ROLE. The French built several classes of super destroyer before WWII that were larger than small cruisers. The British built a lot of small cruisers because they needed a LOT of small cruisers for commerce protection, freeing up the larger Fleet Cruisers like the Town Class for front line service. The role of Cruiser is these days actually conducted by FRIGATES. Patrol vessels capable of sailing long distances, operating alone, and capable of 'Showing the Flag'. Those are roles undertaken by modern frigates and they were the Roles of WWII Cruisers.
@@alganhar1 Coherent argument might be good. If they're designated based on the role, and they're calling the ships doing the cruiser role frigates... well, you've just undone yourself.
I shall copy and paste this here from another user However in this case 'cruiser' is probably in reference to the older form of the term from the 17th century in that it is an independently operating warship, a role that frigates took up in the 19th century as the class was formalize to specialize in the 'cruiser' role. The structure of the class explanations suggests a battle-line more akin to the late 19th century to something similar to the Battle of Jutland.
@@alganhar1 I know all this, I watch Drach… and read. and am aware that plenty of things break MY preferred naming convention (WW2’s basic rules) But, its my preference, the author lost ME, I didn’t say anything other then that.
If your transport ships are armed to deal with raiders as a matter of course, then from a geopolitical standpoint this indicates a failure to adequately patrol your shipping lanes. There’s a reason the local ferry doesn’t have 10mm cannons.
What that tells me is that humanity discovered faster than light before they got given the instructions for jump. Because both the jump aperture described for the Terran warship and the jump Gates are point-to-point. There's literally no way to have raiders. The federation has not been actively using a faster than light drive. They've been using a Stargate. Honestly the discovery that a transport shuttle is equipped to fight raiders would have been more terrifying for the federation then the cruiser arriving if they had actually been running their brains correctly. Because the ability to point to point jump is dependent on having those points. For example they had to transmit jump coordinates before the cruiser could jump into the system. An actual FTL drive, on the other hand, can go anywhere. It's the equivalent of a fairly insular set of island kingdoms discovering ocean going vessels for the first time. The federation doesn't need particularly large vessels because the most that they can achieve is raiding operations. Notice that they looked to the warp gate for an incoming warship. This means that they are not actually accustomed to the idea of a ship not being dependent on the warp gate... Otherwise they would have asked if it was going to come through the gate. Japan, meet Britain. Have a nice day.
Ahahahaha ,,,, hahahaha .... This is like comparing the "navy" of a nation on the Persian Gulf vs the US Navy. The US Navy, which has the second largest air force on earth. Guess who's the largest air force on earth ...
"That's not a knife... This, this is a knife."
Fuck I thought I was the first to say this 🤣🤣
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING! 🤣
@@LuigiL75 aaah, I see you know how to play knifey spoonie
You call this sharpened stick a "knife"? Nah. Better bow before the night reaper! Cuz THIS is a Knife!
Could not have said it better myself
"Your ship is more heavily armed than expected"
"You get away with less security than we expected. 👀"
I had a chuckle at the lobster trying to butter up the ambassador.
Nice pun
This isn't a war sword, this is a butter knife.
THIS *Draws a zwiehänder* is a war sword.
No that's a Machette, the Zweihander would be the Dreadnought class
@@Voron_Aggrav nah, you're forgetting about the classic gladius
The humans do not "seek" war, but they are prepared for when war *finds* them.
Typically I find people don't really seek out conflict and instead there's usually an instigating force of some kind that leads to conflict.
@@Nyghtking yeah like one Ras-Putin the mad dwarf
'Walk softly, but carry a big Stick', was it?
Humans don't seek war they hunt it. We have been hunting war so we can kill it for thousands of years.
@@vanevanhaagen4011 Spoken by the same man who took a bullet to the chest in an attempted assassination, and kept going with his speech anyway.
Corvette -> Frigate -> Destroyer -> Cruiser -> Battleship / Dreadnaught
Yes, in modern terms. However in this case 'cruiser' is probably in reference to the older form of the term from the 17th century in that it is an independently operating warship, a role that frigates took up in the 19th century as the class was formalize to specialize in the 'cruiser' role. The structure of the class explanations suggests a battle-line more akin to the late 19th century to something similar to the Battle of Jutland.
Some modern frigates are as large, and in some cases larger than destroyers. People seem to think ship designation is purely about size, it is not. It is more about role than it is size, though often the role determines the size.
@@skoshman1 Meaning by space human deffinitions it would go back to Corvette/~Patrol --> Frigate/Cruiser --> Battlecruiser/Pocket Battleship --> Battleship/Dreadnaught (although this one defies classic conventions)
@@skoshman1 In fleets that have all the ship types mentioned, that _is_ the order they go in sizes. And yes, age-of-sail frigates did the same job as world war cruisers: big enough to intimidate anything not a warship and cheap enough to operate in large numbers.
Late 19th century had some remnants of age-of-sail, but modern ships (for the day) had settled into (torpedo boat) destroyers - cruisers (a mix of protected and armored) - battleships, even if the Royal Navy, for example, had some steam frigates and the like on its rolls until the 1950s, and there was some dispute as to the difference between a big cruiser and small battleship.
Carrier
And now for our second ship, first I assure you, it is not a small moon.
🗿🍷
It's the coffee shop.
Alien - I have a bad feeling about this!
“Oh it takes a few seconds for it to make the calculations”
*cue elite dangerous capital ship intro*
"What language are they singing in? Why isn't it translating?" "Latin, we only provided the most common language to you for simplicity"
Honestly, the most apt music intro I could imagine is the intro to A Beautiful Song from Nier Automata.
Loved how they backpaddeld imediatly, because they knew it's the only way.
Keep it up :)
3 months? How? Is this a reupload?
@@dwn3rd on the HFY playlist there are videos that are supposed to be private, but can still be seen by the public, when he makes a video (often one shots). Usually 4 months in advance of being "released."
Aliens just before the ship jumps in “ why is my translator saying its hearing operatic metal by am band call SABATON”
Yeah!
Honestly the easiest way to convince people that we want peace would be to bring the entire 11 disc anthology. By the time they get done listening to it they want peace too.
"No no, we only bring ONE nuke in our back pocket when we're seeking peace. It's when we jam about 148 of our 50 Kg antimatter city-erasers on each strike-fighter craft that we are actually thinking about a war!"
"No, no no! That is an asteroid quarrying payload! Our, quote unquote, "planet crackers" are *much* bigger and could hardly shatter a tectonic plate on a world with an active core! . . . Yes! That was a barren planet with a *dead core*, geez!"
Let me introduce you to my little friend! 😀 I loved the bit about the ship creating its' own solo jumpgate.
In my opinion its best to bring your own GPS
Yup, that's basically post-WWII American naval doctrine in a nutshell; conduct trade with the powerful party, or they will remove your ability to travel and trade over long distances. It's not always an open threat, but the existence of such powerful weapons implies it either way.
Might I remind you that America already been doing that in the 1800's, remember how they forced the Japanese to open their doors?
@@Voron_Aggrav very true, i was simply referring to the fact that modern global trade is only possible because the US navy suppresses piracy on a global scale; in the past, kingdoms and governments would defend their ports and trade lanes, but anything else was fair game, but now that there's a monopoly of seaborne power, everyone is playing the same game, "play nice, or else"
@@THarSul mean securing trade lanes is still an international effort, French, English and Dutch ships are also patrolling around Somalia, major difference today is that it's more feasible to protect the entire lane instead of just the ships as sails limit you where you can go
@@Voron_Aggrav lol, sure, we can find exceptions to the rule if you want, but buy and large, global trade in the current era is possible because of the power-based security the US navy affords the world's oceans, because regardless of the interactions of allies, they are still the largest blue-water navy on the planet.
i clarify blue-water there because technically china has a larger navy in raw numbers, but most of their ships are coastal patrol vessels, and can't be counted on in a naval conflict on open water.
@@THarSul I'm not saying that America doesn't have that, but the way you make it sound is like they're the only ones doing it, whilst the rest of the coastal NATO powers are just as much involved in keeping trade safe,
The prime example of "Speak soft words and carry a big stick."
The Ambassador skipped Carriers though.
Would loved to see the aliens reactions when they realize that we bring swarms of tiny hard to target Capital Ship killers.
There is actually a fair degree of disagreement over the idea of Starfighters as a concept. A lot of well versed people are not convinced they would even WORK.
To be viable a Starfighter would need to be able to operate from its mother ship for long periods, as short range starfighters kind of defeat the point. That means the fighter must be able to carry the fuel it requires for its mission, the gas and food/water required to keep the crew sustained and, you know, alive, as well as being able to deliver large quantities of ordnance.
I hate to break it to you, but a Starfighter is likely going to be considerably larger than most modern transport aircraft, and require a crew of ten or more people to operate. And that is going *small*.
@@alganhar1 parasite frigates/corvettes ships carried by a jump capable starship but incapable of jumping on their own. High firepower but limited range and supplies.
@@alganhar1
I was thinking Multiple function autonomous drones / remote controlled drones.
Essentially most are AI controlled with some human controlled ones just because human controlled ones can do stuff out of the box.
Carriers would also carry breaching pods, again, with a mix of human marines and AI mechs. AI mechs for chaos and destruction, marines more for capture and strategic boarding.
All we know from that passage is that small parasite craft exist; we don't know that the Terrans dedicate whole ships to them.
The problem with Fighter/Bombers, in most cases a warship would have enough defensive firepower to counter them, as they're relatively small craft it's defensive capability would be insignificant and their weaponry likewise would be limited,
Unless you've got a size that'd need two dozen or more crew I doubt you'd get much use against capital ships, though they'd be perfect commerce protection ships against lighter ships designed for raiding, or raiders themselves, and in that aspect a carrier would be great hubs for them,
I'd envision a long core which has all the facilities and resources along with the jump drive and the ships just dock unto it along four or even five sides in rows along the length of the hub
Speak softly, but hold a bigger stick. - FDR.
Theodore Roosevelt.
President "Big Dick Energy" Teddy.
Wrong Roosevelt. FDR didn't have that kind of spine.
@@nocount7517 what spine?
@@DeadlyblueEdward The spine to get shot and carry on with a speech like nothing happened. Theodore Roosevelt was probably the manliest man to ever live.
Id like to hear more of this- Something akin to "gentle giants"
Humans being the most armed species in the galaxy, but also considdered the most peaceful and loyal.
No one really fights with them, and its an inside joke that to anger humans is like kicking a sentient bee hive. Its easier to ask for the honey than sticking your claws into it? Idk
Watch/listen to "why humans avoid war"
Lol the lobster had a whole minute to rethink his life decisions
Ladies, and Gentlemen this is what we call *Gunboat Diplomacy!*
In the words of Gen Mattis " I'm going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for the next 10,000 years."
Just wait till we show them the holo-recordings of our last space conflict.
The entire system was reduced to debris, the largest piece of which is no bigger than a marble. When we called in the world cracker, I was certain I saw the bear thing drop a load and turn pale as a ghost.
Why give them real intel. Just show them some Babylon 5 cut scenes.
We seek peace. We already found war.
Humans look for peace. We do not enjoy fighting unneeded battles. But. The walking stick we carry. It's pretty big...
For a moment i thought that the word peace for them meant war XD
What was that one story where the aliens are all lined up in old fashioned firing lines in space, and the crew on the one human ship the alien ship are just in there facepalming at the sheer stupidity of it, before jumping above the enemy lines and attacking them with CIWS since they won't even get out of the way?
"They just... went around" from this guy is part 1. But I heard both parts exist on a different channel
@@kralmir Much obliged.
I guess this was an unintentionally "speak softly and carry a big stick" moment
"Tha's not a warship! _This_ is a warship!"
"Speak softly and carry a big stick"
"Well I Speak LOUDLY, And Carry A BIGGER Stick, And I Use It Too!" - Yosemite Sam.
Walk softly. And carry a big gun
I really liked this one! I chuckled out loud more than once...
As the saying goes; "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
what I love about this, is the very clear implication, that humanity could fucking CURB STOMP, the federation, but genuinely just wants peaceful relations.
If you're limited in building to the size of an existing warpgate network, yeah, that's gonna heavily influence your construction patterns and naval doctrine. Once you can bypass gates, however...
Death star intro
The best scene in film for the idea of appearances can lead to underestimating is the Star Wars scene where Jedi says..."Always a Bigger Fish" ha my analogy is not so good. But for this story the Human Diplomat ship is a guppy, Alien Waership is a nice big healthy trout in the local pond. The Human Warship is a Shark visiting the pond from the larger Ocean called Milky Way.
And that's just their small shark, Great Meg hasn't even showed itself
@@Voron_Aggrav:-) he he
If you want to continue the sequence of Always A Bigger Fish?
A very silly scene in Meg vs Octopus ( title is not exact ) has Megalodon the size of 747, attack a plane at cruising altitude. Sci fi book I forgot title to is set in about 1000000 AD; has Space Sharks and entire ecology that lives in vaccuum of space...they exist for a simple and amusing reason, Human Genetic Engineers wanted them to exist! Back to spaceships; in Sci Fi there are multiple Starships that are planetary or even Solar System size. Or most absurd bullet? Nuetron Star accelerated for thousands of years to near light speed...because Humans got pissed off! Ummm to clarify that is actually the second most absurd bullet from story's I have read, and I am not saying the one bigger than that;-
Careful what you wish for friend. You just might get it.
You knew they all had a moment where their minds just said f*ck
The only problem I have with the story is that a destroyer is bigger then a cruiser
Indeed. They're usually a few thousand tons smaller.
@@nocount7517 i dont think navy clasification should be exact with space ship clasification
@@filipzajac As I mentioned elsewhere, yes, are thinking in modern terms. However in this case 'cruiser' is probably in reference to the older form of the term from the 17th century in that it is an independently operating warship, a role that frigates took up in the 19th century as the class was formalize to specialize in the 'cruiser' role. The structure of the class explanations suggests a battle-line more akin to the late 19th century to something similar to the Battle of Jutland.
Not inconceivable. The French built several Destroyer Classes prior to WWII that were larger than small cruisers. The Cruiser designation was a role, or a series of roles, not a size indicator. While role often determines size in warships it is not always the case.
In this case the Cruiser appears to be a long range patrol vessel capable of operating individually. It might also fulfil the Show the Flag type missions in the Navy as well. Both those roles are traditional Cruiser roles.
in fact you can argue with a good deal of success that todays Frigates ARE in fact the Cruisers of modern Navies, as they fulfil most of the roles that Cruisers once did.
@@skoshman1 Dude, the cruiser role you're describing is _exactly_ the role world war-era cruisers were designed to fill. Aside from the ones that were designed to be destroyer leaders, anyway.
A picture of a great white shark appears & a man with an Australian accent says,"Guppy." Fosters, Australian for beer.
Introduction to the Term: Pucker Power!
Teddy would be proud.
Speak softly and carry A BIG STICK!
Oh goodness me, I've been speaking softly but I forgot my big stick!
Humanity setting off a new arms race amongst the xeno by introducing gunboat diplomacy
But we didn't even show them our Star Destroyers, or the Death Star!
Yep, speak of peace and carry a big Stick.
This has got to be the biggest military flex of all time!
i suggest immediate invasion, john. you scared the shit out of them with a transport shuttle, that means their own fleets must be laughable by comparison
I feel bad for whoever was mopping those bridges and observation decks
Sounds to me like an old Toyota with an MG on the back would count as a tank for them.
The moment when the Xeno shat itself
Lobsters cant shat
@@babla69420 when he egested out of fear
@@babla69420 , they can but it looks like they are crying when they do.
And I do believe the little crustacean was a little misty eyed for Some Odd Reason.
@@babla69420 fair.
I bet the Dreadnaught is called something like "ES/S Throatpunch" or "Dreddy the Dreadnaught"
Dready McDreadface
Walk softly... but carry a stick.
This reminds me of the scene in the Gregory Hines/Willem Dafoe movie “Off Limits” when the South Vietnamese have them at gunpoint and a Huey gunship shows up and they’re told, “We (the Americans) are *never* outgunned”…
Aliens realized who in the galaxy carries the big stick.
Had to replay twice. Couldn't stop laughing...
A: Peace?! Peace, is that threat?!
H: No a threat is war not peace
My thoughts went to _Hyperspeed,_ where one of the aliens, helpfully supplied with some human history, recognizes 'peace' as the state of preparing for the next war. Since it decides their fleet is more ready than your ship, the alien decides to take his current odds with your indicated hostile intent rather than waiting until _you_ feel ready.
people it depends on which type of destroyer it is .in Starship classifications and depending on the verses canon. EG starwars destroyers are huge battle ships whereas 40k destroyers are sacrificial ships that screen the Battleships.
So they never experienced conflict like humanity has?
And that was a very small warship?
Accidental gunboat diplomacy.
Oh come on ! If you could built a space ship to cross the unknown, wouldn't you put in any type of weapons system you could make ?
Its not like they 're gonna bomb your homeworlds or anything, not unless you make 'em really mad, by saying disagreeing with them? Yep! That ought to do it!
As you Americans say - This is just a 2nd Amendment shuttle not a warship!
Ohhhh yeahhh that great!
We all know that sound doesnt travel in space
But im pretty sure the captain of that cruiser was wondering what couple dozen of people he heard just rip serious ass
Human: And now, this is our super heavy titan class. TCN Hot Pot. Armed with thirty Type IX Boiler Laser Batteries, twenty Type VII Toothpick Gatling Railguns and a single Type XIII Plasma Planet Searing Cannon serving as its main armament.
Lobster Xeno: Oh! What a beautiful warship! I cannot wait to go inside and explore its every nook and cranny. *clap-clap the sound made by the Lobster Xeno's tail as it hit the floor due to his excitement
Human: So do we mister Xeno. So... do... we... *licks lips
Oh no... lmfao.
Close-in weapon system / CIWS is a point-defense weapon system for detecting and destroying short-range incoming missiles.
thanks wikipedia.
Thanks for the story 😊☺️
Never measure your worth by thy neighbor, for you will always be found wanting.
But also never be complacent with as is, for there will always be someone better.
Be the better then the day before and you will always be the best you can ever be.
Star destroyers, the size of cities. Haha 😂
That's not weapons it is just miminal protection against navigational hazards. If you have cleaned your space of all such small cold objects I think I know what we have to sell and what we want to purchase with the money received.
Plot twist: the human ship was made of paper mache.
Ohhh that would be funny
Call that a knife?
I enjoy your narrations. Thank you for the good work
Shudder, little xenos, at the heavy tread of humanity.
Peace is only an option to the guy with the largest gun
Speak softly and carry a big stick. Gun boat diplomatic escapades are always fun
"GO BIG OR STAY HOME"
You really want to scare them just show them some of our video games that should do it
Gunboat diplomacy...always a good tactic
lol an unintentional gunboat diplomacy.
Just wait until they see our culture. The Death Star alone would make them shit the equivalent of their pants
Also this is our smallest warship we have bigger ones.
bro at the end they were clearly scared shit less
36 nukes?
U got to bump thous numbers up
Thous are rookie numbers
Walk softly and carry a really big stick (and also a large caliber hand gun just in case of those who want to play stupid games and win stupid prizes)
Forgot to send metrics
This story is so refreshing to listen to.
Especially after slogging through a suffocating emo sauna that was on an other channel.
Is that a colonized halo ring in the thumbnail?
The author lost me when he made cruisers smaller then destroyers 😢
Then you need to educate yourself about ship roles. They are not based on size but ROLE.
The French built several classes of super destroyer before WWII that were larger than small cruisers. The British built a lot of small cruisers because they needed a LOT of small cruisers for commerce protection, freeing up the larger Fleet Cruisers like the Town Class for front line service.
The role of Cruiser is these days actually conducted by FRIGATES. Patrol vessels capable of sailing long distances, operating alone, and capable of 'Showing the Flag'. Those are roles undertaken by modern frigates and they were the Roles of WWII Cruisers.
@@alganhar1 Coherent argument might be good. If they're designated based on the role, and they're calling the ships doing the cruiser role frigates... well, you've just undone yourself.
I shall copy and paste this here from another user
However in this case 'cruiser' is probably in reference to the older form of the term from the 17th century in that it is an independently operating warship, a role that frigates took up in the 19th century as the class was formalize to specialize in the 'cruiser' role. The structure of the class explanations suggests a battle-line more akin to the late 19th century to something similar to the Battle of Jutland.
@@alganhar1 I know all this, I watch Drach… and read. and am aware that plenty of things break MY preferred naming convention (WW2’s basic rules)
But, its my preference, the author lost ME, I didn’t say anything other then that.
@@boobah5643 Just my preference 🤷🏼 he wrote nothing I didn’t already know…
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For the algorithm
Lol it a really big stick
If your transport ships are armed to deal with raiders as a matter of course, then from a geopolitical standpoint this indicates a failure to adequately patrol your shipping lanes. There’s a reason the local ferry doesn’t have 10mm cannons.
I mean are barges have four flak guns
What that tells me is that humanity discovered faster than light before they got given the instructions for jump. Because both the jump aperture described for the Terran warship and the jump Gates are point-to-point. There's literally no way to have raiders. The federation has not been actively using a faster than light drive. They've been using a Stargate. Honestly the discovery that a transport shuttle is equipped to fight raiders would have been more terrifying for the federation then the cruiser arriving if they had actually been running their brains correctly. Because the ability to point to point jump is dependent on having those points. For example they had to transmit jump coordinates before the cruiser could jump into the system. An actual FTL drive, on the other hand, can go anywhere. It's the equivalent of a fairly insular set of island kingdoms discovering ocean going vessels for the first time. The federation doesn't need particularly large vessels because the most that they can achieve is raiding operations. Notice that they looked to the warp gate for an incoming warship. This means that they are not actually accustomed to the idea of a ship not being dependent on the warp gate... Otherwise they would have asked if it was going to come through the gate. Japan, meet Britain. Have a nice day.
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Ahahahaha ,,,, hahahaha ....
This is like comparing the "navy" of a nation on the Persian Gulf vs the US Navy. The US Navy, which has the second largest air force on earth. Guess who's the largest air force on earth ...
We call this the "Commodore Perry" approach to diplomacy.
never show your cards
RRRREEEEEEEEEEE
Hopefully the humans make the right choice and subjugate the pathetic xenos.