The VERY Messed Up Origins of Snow, Glass, Apples | Gaiman Explained - Jon Solo

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
  • You'll never see Snow White the same again... ಠ_ಠ
    Thanks to Squarespace for sponsoring this video! Head to www.squarespace.com/JonSolo to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code "JONSOLO" (☞゚ヮ゚)☞
    ► SOLOFAM MERCH:
    » www.bonfire.com/store/solo-ma...
    ► Support the series on Patreon!
    » / jonsolo
    ▼ TIMESTAMPS ▼
    - 0:00 - Intro
    » 1:42 - Part 1: A TASTE of Things to Come ...
    » 6:14 - Part 2: Apples
    » 8:52 - Part 3: Revenge
    » 11:53 - Analysis: Beautiful, Yet Terrifying
    ► Want more?
    » Coraline Explained: bit.ly/CoralineExplained
    » Messed Up Origins: bit.ly/MessedUpOrgins
    » Mythology Explained: bit.ly/MythologyExplained
    » Disney Explained: bit.ly/DisneyExplained
    » Fables Explained: bit.ly/FablesExplained
    » Messed Up Murders: bit.ly/MurderPlaylist
    ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    ► Social Media:
    » Twitter: / jonsolo
    » Instagram: / jonsolo
    » Facebook Fan Page: / therealjonsolo
    » Official Subreddit: / jonsolo
    ► Join the Official Channel Discord:
    » / jonsolo
    ► Send Fan Mail to:
    » SoloFamMail@gmail.com
    ► Business:
    » biz@messeduporigins.com (Business Inquiries ONLY)
    ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    ▼ Resources ▼
    » my favorites: messeduporigins.com/books
    » Snow, Glass, Apples (affiliate link): amzn.to/37BSlSQ
    » Gaiman Interview: allaboutromance.com/author-in...
    » Snow, Glass, Apples Review: spectrumculture.com/2019/09/2...
    ▼ Art Sources ▼
    » the illustrations in this video were drawn by Colleen Doran: www.colleendoran.com/
    » illustration of the queen's death drawn by Marcel Mercado: marcelmercado.com/
    ▼ Music Sources ▼
    » REVEALING MY INTRO SONG! goo.gl/Z9eHu1
    » Background Music: Killing Time Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
    Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License
    » Quotes 3 by Anders Bothén: goo.gl/Lz9ADE
    » If I used your art in any portion of this video please send a message to my business email with proof that you're the original artist so I can give you credit!
    #MessedUpOrigins #SnowGlassApples #NeilGaiman

Комментарии • 1,5 тыс.

  • @DESMANIAK
    @DESMANIAK 3 года назад +2038

    I like this version. Making snow white a vampire/antagonist is an interesting twist to a classic. Makes you wonder about potential alternate fairytales.

    • @catandrobbyflores
      @catandrobbyflores 3 года назад +54

      If you want alternative fairy tales I would highly recommend the fairy godmother by Mercedes lackey. It really puts the classic fairy tales on their head.

    • @Black-Swan-007
      @Black-Swan-007 3 года назад +29

      I also recommend Twisted by Starkid. It's a stage musical but it's soooo good. You can watch the entire thing for free on RUclips. ^^

    • @stillscrubbin
      @stillscrubbin 3 года назад +11

      I can't recall the author but I read a novel call simply "Snow" that had anthropomorphic creatures in it. Amazing!

    • @glendy_bluebird2
      @glendy_bluebird2 3 года назад +4

      I agree

    • @briannalee1998
      @briannalee1998 3 года назад +5

      desmaniak right?! Love it

  • @donaldduck9420
    @donaldduck9420 3 года назад +2027

    Petition for a messed up origins on ‘The Phantom of the Opera’ and works by Edgar Allan Poe, messed up Disney on ‘The Black Cauldron’ and the ‘Rite of Spring’ and ‘A Night on Bald Mountain’ from ‘Fantasia’, and a messed up murders on Ed Gein.

    • @sataniccat-girlwithagun3300
      @sataniccat-girlwithagun3300 3 года назад +21

      Oh ma gawd, a duck!

    • @grace5033
      @grace5033 3 года назад +25

      me, a theatre kid: iN sLeEp He SaNg To Me, In DrEaMs He CaMe, ThAt VoIcE wHiCh CaLlS tO mE, aNd SpEaKs My NaMe

    • @mysticloverfairy1
      @mysticloverfairy1 3 года назад +8

      Didn’t they have to change a lot in the Black Cauldron because a lot of stuff was too dark and during a screening parents had to take their kids out. I think I heard something along those lines.

    • @donaldduck9420
      @donaldduck9420 3 года назад +3

      @@sataniccat-girlwithagun3300 Quack

    • @donaldduck9420
      @donaldduck9420 3 года назад +2

      @The Lady Ligeia He is my favorite author. I like The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar, but I do like Ligeia, probably not as much as you...

  • @breelove3742
    @breelove3742 3 года назад +172

    “The little bitch bites her...” line had me screaming LMFAJO it was so unexpected but something he would say 😭

  • @fromlissawithlove
    @fromlissawithlove 3 года назад +225

    Tim Burton would have a field day with this version... A gory, ghastly, Gothic field day 😂

    • @ayanamiayachanJ
      @ayanamiayachanJ 3 года назад +18

      Or Guillermo del Toro would also have a field day with this adaptation of Snow White

    • @fromlissawithlove
      @fromlissawithlove 3 года назад +6

      @@ayanamiayachanJ Great point, I completely forgot about Guillermo del Toro!

    • @robot12423
      @robot12423 Год назад +2

      @@fromlissawithlove 😂😂😂🤣😭

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 3 года назад +1023

    WALT DISNEY: I'm going to make this story a lot child-friendly
    NEIL GAIMAN: I'm going to make this story a lot gothic-friendly
    JON SOLO: I'm going to mess up this stories

  • @tirzahroseroot
    @tirzahroseroot 3 года назад +1067

    Jon: Hey, Siri, who’s the fairest of them all?
    Siri: Snow White, is that you?
    Best part of the video!

  • @hound3000
    @hound3000 3 года назад +55

    Never considered Snow White as an undead vampire. For her to look so white, make sense she was a vampire.

  • @aprettygothichick
    @aprettygothichick 3 года назад +443

    So she was 5 when she had her heart cut out and then 5 years later, when she was 10, she was still alive and going to "pleasure town" with the forest dwellers? What is with every version of Snow White having some seriously underage problems? Also "fun tunnel" is now my favorite word for it lol

    • @z3nddddd873
      @z3nddddd873 3 года назад +50

      Apparently she was twelve somehow. Not much of a difference and still gross. But it’s a difference 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @HistoryRats
      @HistoryRats 3 года назад +11

      Odd that is very odd

    • @etsubedenkebekele5598
      @etsubedenkebekele5598 3 года назад +32

      People used to get married at a very young age in the past so maybe that's why... Doesn't make it any less gross but still.

    • @thesilversage1
      @thesilversage1 3 года назад +47

      Royals, especially girls of the middle ages were often married at this age for the sealing of treaties. Though it was usually understood that their husbands would wait till theyre older to consummate but not all royal husbands did. But normally, the young bride would move to their husbands kingdom and be raised by a trusted member of the royal houseold or court until she was old enough. I recommend lindsey holiday's video on royal marriages part 1.

    • @yubima
      @yubima 3 года назад +14

      @@thesilversage1 some waited, but it was used to think that a girl that has her first period could marry, so children were getting children, and the age diference didnt matter. Also childhooud and adolescence didnt exist, children were treated as adults.

  • @kevin4061
    @kevin4061 3 года назад +351

    Snow: You're approaching me? Instead of running away you're coming right to me.
    Regina: I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer.

    • @alexsama9055
      @alexsama9055 3 года назад +19

      Daamn a jojo reference here? Wow

    • @HollyAnneThePaganChaosWitch
      @HollyAnneThePaganChaosWitch 3 года назад +18

      Can't fucking escape the Jojo's no matter where I go...

    • @cherryhill9055
      @cherryhill9055 3 года назад +7

      JoJo reference is everywhere and no one can't escape it

    • @angel6017
      @angel6017 3 года назад +2

      @@HollyAnneThePaganChaosWitch I know how you feel 😂

    • @lonelyronin2428
      @lonelyronin2428 3 года назад +1

      @@HollyAnneThePaganChaosWitch or the bnha fans, apparently. Im one to talk, im a big fan!

  • @jenielleennis8553
    @jenielleennis8553 3 года назад +1121

    I was dancing to the intro song then bam!! Thunder🤣🤣

    • @ashleighcoffey8963
      @ashleighcoffey8963 3 года назад +38

      OMG SAME. A storms a blowing here in Ohio!

    • @jenielleennis8553
      @jenielleennis8553 3 года назад +20

      @@ashleighcoffey8963 I'm in Jamaica and we've been having heavy rain all week...We're on hurricane watch

    • @Gold.edits44
      @Gold.edits44 3 года назад +6

      I whistled

    • @Gold.edits44
      @Gold.edits44 3 года назад +10

      @@jenielleennis8553 I live in jamaica as well. I didn't know this

    • @ashleighcoffey8963
      @ashleighcoffey8963 3 года назад +7

      @@jenielleennis8553 be safe, Ill be keeping you and yours in my thoughts. Its been raining here all week as well. We are no where near water so I dont have to worry about hurricanes, however we do get tornados.

  • @thekavestation
    @thekavestation 3 года назад +56

    the final line was so good
    "her skin, snow white"

  • @briannalee1998
    @briannalee1998 3 года назад +173

    Okay, this is the coolest version of Snow White ever! I want to see this turn in to an animated movie with accurate art.

    • @InsaneLaughter01
      @InsaneLaughter01 3 года назад +5

      No you don’t!🙅🏻‍♀️🙅🏻‍♀️🙅🏻‍♀️
      It’s enough as a graphic novel but you don’t want it as a movie, TRUST ME.
      Unless you want to explain to the fbi why you want an animated film that results in a grown man fucking to life the corpse of a dead child. Or the parts about said child being 12 and prostituting herself for money in the forest.
      Or the strong implications that she was feeding off her own dad and thus leaving the scars ON HIS JUNK!
      Seriously, those are major points in the story that give it the twisted effect. You DONT want it as a movie.

    • @crazyfire9470
      @crazyfire9470 2 года назад +14

      This art style being animated?! Stuff of nightmares…

    • @elaineyan6024
      @elaineyan6024 Год назад +7

      Gotta be Rated R

  • @adamstockwell7090
    @adamstockwell7090 3 года назад +159

    Queen Regina, is basically Queen Queen, as Regina is the Latin translation of Queen

    • @UNKNOWN-xn2ne
      @UNKNOWN-xn2ne 3 года назад +5

      Oh👁👄👁

    • @HillaryMarek
      @HillaryMarek 3 года назад +6

      Is that true? I never realized that connection, thanks for posting this!

    • @koyuki90
      @koyuki90 2 года назад +2

      In Italian Regina means queen too

    • @theonlyvampirateable
      @theonlyvampirateable 2 года назад +2

      Wonder if she knows Moon Moon

    • @carna-9501
      @carna-9501 2 года назад +6

      @@theonlyvampirateable you mean Remus Lupin? His name is just moon moon. Hell his marauder name is even Moony

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 3 года назад +486

    Magic mirror on the wall, who's the Soloest of them all?

  • @junelledembroski9183
    @junelledembroski9183 3 года назад +170

    A median of the stories: A queen gives birth and dies in childbirth, the baby is born still born but awakes (a rare occurrence but an occurrence indeed), giving rise to tales about the princess. The father has no other children so she’s isolated and doesn’t know how to interact. Perv king marries a young lady who heard the stories about his daughter and, like in some other stories/movies/real life, she starts perceiving things that aren’t true about the princess. The princess perceives the fear/hatred of new queen and bites her. The king gets a cut and dies of infection. Both blame each other. They start prancing each other until it goes too far, when the queen tells the huntsman to kill Snow White, she knew he wouldn’t off her, but Snow White took it as though she thought the huntsman would kill her. Then they get two kingdoms and troll each other until one of them dies. The end.

    • @markuhler2664
      @markuhler2664 3 года назад +18

      Instead of telling the Huntsman to kill her, the Queen tells him to take her out". & consequently misinterpreted by the Huntsman or Snow White. & granted, being abandoned deep in a forest might be pretty close to an execution order.

    • @tijanamilenkovic3425
      @tijanamilenkovic3425 3 года назад +5

      @@markuhler2664 Moka Akashiya and Shalltear Bloodfallen would like to now your location

  • @gnikawpleasant9013
    @gnikawpleasant9013 3 года назад +114

    I have a few takeaways from this:
    1 “going to pleasure town” is now going to be how I refer to doin it.
    2 No. I did not care about the queen cutting out Snow White’s heart at all in this version of events.
    3 I’m now calling it a “fun tunnel.”
    4 I actually like this version better than the original. And I’m not even really into vampire stories.
    5 Happy Birthday Jon!

  • @kaylab9779
    @kaylab9779 3 года назад +429

    "If you guys don't mind Gunther's gonna join me for this section"
    Me: "OMG DOGO GIMME THE DOGO!!!!"😍💗
    Gunther: *runs off somewhere*
    Me: NO COME BACK!! 😭

  • @arirose6670
    @arirose6670 3 года назад +170

    This Eeextra Messed up.
    "The thrusting dislodged a piece of the apple out of her throat."
    Whaaaaaaaaa

    • @tiajoseph7309
      @tiajoseph7309 3 года назад +36

      Don't forget that black "ooze" that dripped between her legs!

    • @lucarudloff687
      @lucarudloff687 3 года назад +1

      And all that while she is just 5 years old...

    • @zeezee6809
      @zeezee6809 2 года назад +4

      @@lucarudloff687 When She Was Found By The Prince She Wasn’t 5

    • @carna-9501
      @carna-9501 2 года назад +5

      @@lucarudloff687 she was 10. Doesnt make it any better, medieval society was weird about consent between nobles

  • @dami5072
    @dami5072 3 года назад +98

    "Regina apparently learned this the hard way, or maybe should I say the soft way because when she apparently tried to make a move on him, her impression of a dead corpse was just abismal"
    PG13 has left the chat 😳

  • @char5030
    @char5030 3 года назад +412

    Is no one gonna talk about how “Snow White” was *five years old* at the beginning?? She literally married around age *10-15* 😳

    • @just-A.randomdude
      @just-A.randomdude 3 года назад +27

      I think she was 13

    • @christianmarshal6117
      @christianmarshal6117 3 года назад +101

      Also she bites her father all over his body draining him at age 5, and after having her heart carved out she has sex with multiple forest dwellers in between those two ages while missing a heart and bleeding black ink, after which she drains them of their blood like she did to her dad and she was lifeless and unconscious when her “husband to be” had his first time with her... so the marriage at 10-15 as bad as it is isn’t the creepiest thing going on here.

    • @christianmarshal6117
      @christianmarshal6117 3 года назад +4

      @Emma Winn judging by the step mother’s recounting as Jon explained it that doesn’t seem to be the case.

    • @farihaislam7087
      @farihaislam7087 3 года назад +10

      its normal for that time

    • @welcome2myhappyworld
      @welcome2myhappyworld 3 года назад +64

      5:06 "After the king died, the 16 year old queen was the lone ruler..." Snow White isn't the only one who married young.

  • @leah.t.m9420
    @leah.t.m9420 3 года назад +128

    jon: "jumping ahead again-"
    gunther: "aite"

    • @JonSolo
      @JonSolo  3 года назад +27

      I didn't mean literally 💁

    • @leah.t.m9420
      @leah.t.m9420 3 года назад +5

      @@JonSolo 😂😂

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 3 года назад +205

    Snow, Glass, Apples is an awesome retelling of Snow White. Very dark, very gothic. Perfect for Halloween season.🎃👻☠️
    Happy birthday!🎂🎈🎉

  • @marfrommars296
    @marfrommars296 3 года назад +158

    jon: whos the fairest of them all
    siri: snow white, is that you?
    jon: NoOooOoO

    • @micaylab1
      @micaylab1 3 года назад +3

      You've read my mind!

  • @GrimmShadowsII
    @GrimmShadowsII 3 года назад +9

    This is why I'm a fan of Gaiman, he takes a story you know and puts a new spin on it but even though some parts are familiar it still feels almost completely new and not like someone is just trying tell the same story with some minor differences, even though thats basically what it is.

  • @tinesea17
    @tinesea17 3 года назад +69

    It rly is amazing when a tale almost as old as a millenium can still take multiple spins without losing the very plot/storyline. Goes to show what a classic it is.
    Thank you for thoroughly explaining this!

  • @melissachagaris3152
    @melissachagaris3152 3 года назад +103

    3:15 I’ll make a prediction Regina comes to the conclusion that Snow White is either a Demon or Evil Spirit.
    Edit: 4:20 Nope she’s a vampire...

    • @malstenson3981
      @malstenson3981 3 года назад +4

      Please consider Brom’s Child Thief vs Barrie’s original Peter Pan.

  • @colbymenck
    @colbymenck Год назад +18

    One of my favorite renditions of Snow White is a different story which gives great insight into why the Evil Queen did what she did. It was featured in the first book of the Land of Stories (great series totally recommend). Basically, the queen falls in love with this guy but someone (I forgot both of their names) gets jealous and curses the man to live inside an enchanted mirror. The queen is devastated at the loss of her love to the point that she has a witch carve out part of her heart so that she couldn’t feel the pain. She continued to talk to the mirror everyday and he slowly looses his personality and basically become Siri. So when the mirror tells her he thinks Snow White is prettier than she is, it’s like a slap to the face. After all of the events from the original Snow White, the queen is put in prison which she soon escapes with her mirror to try and find a way to free her love. She discovered a magical spell and wishes for her love to be freed, but she is a moment to late as the man has already completely lost himself and he dies in her arms. Seconds later, the building crumbles around her and she dies with him in her arms.
    Anyway, I really loved the insight that story gave, with her loving the man in the mirror and her not actually having a heart. Hope you enjoyed the story and if you love these videos definitely recommend the land of stories it gives great insight into many different fairy tales😁

    • @SwanQueenist
      @SwanQueenist 11 месяцев назад +1

      Evly the Evil Queen and Ezmia the Enchantress and Mira being the name of Evly’s lover.

  • @thenerdybunny1296
    @thenerdybunny1296 3 года назад +71

    Question: Why did the queen not stake the heart that was over her bed?

    • @etsubedenkebekele5598
      @etsubedenkebekele5598 3 года назад +6

      Ikr? If I were her I would have stabbed it a thousand times then burned it. If that doesn't work then find some spell and curse/poisoned it instead of going to snow white myself.

    • @08fighter08
      @08fighter08 3 года назад +10

      @@etsubedenkebekele5598 maybe it's a plot hole that Gaiman didn't want to include in the story. 🤷🏾‍♀️ I know I would have put a stake in the heart.

    • @etsubedenkebekele5598
      @etsubedenkebekele5598 3 года назад +6

      @@08fighter08 maybe🤷🏽‍♀️ sadly we'll never know why.

    • @ophelia4825
      @ophelia4825 2 года назад +26

      @@etsubedenkebekele5598 the queen repeatedly states in the story that she regrets most of her decisions, but there’s nothing she can do about it as she’s being burned

  • @koinijikoimizu
    @koinijikoimizu 3 года назад +22

    Wow, I'm surprised you mentioned Colleen Doran and NOT mention her absolutely phenomenal series Distant Soil about half-alien children thrust into an intergalactic battle mired in politics, hope, loss and a very colorful cast. The series is incredible. She is the perfect pick for this kind of tale.

  • @anttibjorklund1869
    @anttibjorklund1869 3 года назад +54

    "If you don't mind, Gunther's gonna join us for this section."
    Why would we mind?

  • @Dnightshade100
    @Dnightshade100 Год назад +11

    With a story like that about Snow White being a vampire, it makes me wonder why the queen didn’t just stab the heart or burn it to kill the princess in the first place.

    • @badeggontheyoutube145
      @badeggontheyoutube145 4 месяца назад +2

      I think it's because ppl did not have knowledge about vampires back then, since they've only became popular around the Victorian era, if I'm not mistaken, and snow white's story takes place in medieval times. the first vampire story ever written, carmilla, it's from 1872 (and it's fun cause there is literally a tutorial on how to kill a vampire there lol). In the beginning of gaiman's story, the queen says she doesn't know what snow white is, probably because of the time period. Like, in this universe, vampires did exist in medieval times but were not known. So her thoughts were probably "ok I know she is a fucked up kid and I don't know what she is how do I kill it". Thanks for listening to my ted talk

  • @Brittini2k12
    @Brittini2k12 3 года назад +41

    “Snow White, is that you?”
    NO!!! 😂😂😂

  • @BoomBanticSkull
    @BoomBanticSkull 3 года назад +64

    Necrophilia? Oooh boy I'm not sure how you're gonna top this in the future Jon

  • @raydark8007
    @raydark8007 3 года назад +17

    i remember the dog when he is tiny and Jon solo hold him in his hand and now he is growing up and take over the chairs time flies fast...damn i feel old

  • @moonlightwolf
    @moonlightwolf 3 года назад +41

    Please do an episode on Neil Gaiman's Stardust!! I think you would really like talking about the different fairytales that make it up

    • @InsaneLaughter01
      @InsaneLaughter01 3 года назад +3

      Hold up! You telling me NEIL GAIMAN wrote my favorite movie?!?! I use to watch that movie so much the cd became worn out and I had to get a new one!

    • @deboralee1623
      @deboralee1623 3 года назад +1

      i was just thinking about _Stardust_. still can't forgive Gaiman for zombifying the unicorn. killing it, decapitating it, no problem; making it walk then kneel, ¡boooo!

  • @theperksofbeingabookworm906
    @theperksofbeingabookworm906 3 года назад +52

    “Do I still get points if I put Rudy Juliani and Billie Eilish?
    “Yes”
    Hooray!

  • @Cheshiregrinn91
    @Cheshiregrinn91 3 года назад +99

    vampirism. I gotta say that i indeed original. My first question however was. where were the guards of the queen? Did the prince and his soldiers really just waltz into the queens bed chambers? why did no one stop them?

    • @MrMagnus1996
      @MrMagnus1996 3 года назад +14

      No one else knew about snow white being a vampire so i guess the guards let them in.

    • @tijanamilenkovic3425
      @tijanamilenkovic3425 3 года назад

      @Sunny Days Moka Akashiya and Shalltear Bloodfallen would like to now your location

  • @DeBoomTori2
    @DeBoomTori2 2 года назад +16

    Gaiman is a genius. All of his stories are absolutely wonderful. Please make this an annual thing

  • @just_foxy35
    @just_foxy35 3 года назад +7

    I knew it! The prince is a necrophile and Snow is a vampire! this story shows perfectly that the antagonist in one story is the protagonist in another, also looking forward to that dedicated episode, I'd like to hear your thoughts on that version!

  • @SaiseiSekiVA
    @SaiseiSekiVA 3 года назад +4

    i literally SQUEALED at the thumbnail for this video coz thanks to another favorite youtuber i went and bought "Snow, Glass, Apples" just to know how horribly dark it was. I was NOT disappointed. Definitely not for children at all. Dorran even mentioned within their process of illustrating the cover that they tried to NOT make it appealing to younger audience at all for this entire reason.
    Also fun dark lil fact: when they buried the King, the Queen also realized that his, well, "treasures" were gone too. //cough
    Great retrospect here as always, Jon! 👌🏻 what a way to make my morning.

  • @liliththepotato8985
    @liliththepotato8985 3 года назад +73

    me: snow white is related to vlad the impaler?
    my brain: the vampire gene just skips two generations

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 3 года назад +82

    I give you permission to talk about Squirrel & Hedgehog, it's admittedly a messed up war cartoon for children

  • @lovetolovefairytales
    @lovetolovefairytales 3 года назад +8

    I read this story (without pictures, it was in some library collection) five years ago and I remember disliking it and moved on, but this video has convinced me to give it another chance, in a proper format with pictures. I'm actually really excited to do so!

  • @That80sGuy1972
    @That80sGuy1972 3 года назад +14

    Wow! Now I want to read that book. That reminded me of a Creative Writing project we had back when I was in school. We had to write a short story where we made a bad guy into a hero from their perspective without ruining the original story. That story would have not only had an A+, but would have been kept in the school records as a wonderful example.

  • @littleearth488
    @littleearth488 3 года назад +31

    This reminds me of The True Story of the Three Little Pigs from the perspective of the “Big Bad Wolf.”

    • @08fighter08
      @08fighter08 3 года назад +1

      I remember that book. 😆

  • @gajeeI
    @gajeeI 3 года назад +49

    once upon a time is one of the best shows ever i was so mad when it got took off netflix i wanted to rewatch it one day .

    • @annar7833
      @annar7833 3 года назад +3

      Its on Disney + now.

    • @Hellisownedbygoth666
      @Hellisownedbygoth666 3 года назад +4

      Me when he mentions Regina: 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲

    • @ayanamiayachanJ
      @ayanamiayachanJ 3 года назад +1

      @@Hellisownedbygoth666 I know I’m watching season 4 of once upon a time

  • @Wandergirl108
    @Wandergirl108 3 года назад +5

    I found a book once called "Shattered" (I think) that was another interesting retelling of Snow White in which the protagonist was the mad queen - it didn't vilify the princess or justify the queen's actions, but it was still a really interesting take on the tale. This, though…this is something else entirely…can't wait to hear about what's in that book you ordered, Jon. :)

  • @user-mw6up5fd4w
    @user-mw6up5fd4w 3 года назад +7

    Honestly, this is my favorite Jon Solo video. I just love his telling of the story with Neil Gaiman's dark modern adaptation.

  • @hayreddinbarbarossa661
    @hayreddinbarbarossa661 3 года назад +27

    "her fun tunnel" 😂😂😂

  • @maggiesheartlove2734
    @maggiesheartlove2734 3 года назад +59

    I always knew there was something iffy about Snow.
    What kind of nutcase talks to squirrels? 🤨

    • @jenniferstine8567
      @jenniferstine8567 3 года назад +5

      You'd think the squirrels would eat nutcases. That's not the only weird thing. Animals are washing the dishes by licking them. They use a turtle as a washboard. Since when do turtles live in the woods in Europe? (Wikipedia says there are turtles living in the woods in the US. However we never had a monarchy here.) I've never seen animals so helpful. None of them bother each other, which is really weird given the collection. I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but wishing wells, stars and whatever else really don't work. In the movie she's more than old enough to know this. Especially since if it did work she probably would have had a better life.

    • @UNKNOWN-xn2ne
      @UNKNOWN-xn2ne 3 года назад +1

      I agree

    • @sarahlilly1745
      @sarahlilly1745 3 года назад +1

      Fluttershy can talk to animals, but that’s her talent.

    • @eviee8132
      @eviee8132 3 года назад +1

      I talk to birds and any animals/ bugs that I see- I'm lonely so yh- ;-;

  • @mw7165
    @mw7165 3 года назад +34

    “How does someone think fo this?”. Lol. Interesting, though.

  • @jamies810
    @jamies810 Год назад +2

    i always thought of trying to make a version of snow white where she was a vampire, i mean the iconic depiction of pale skin and red lips just screams what a 'typical' vampire would be described as in a portion of media everywhere.

  • @gigirauchut1882
    @gigirauchut1882 3 года назад +19

    I know this isn't really one of Gaiman's darker works, but could you compare the book and the film adaptation of Stardust? It's incredible, it's often been described as an adult fairytale

  • @hinatasexyhyuga55
    @hinatasexyhyuga55 3 года назад +10

    You know after watching the 3 year anniversary video. It made me realize I been watching your videos since messed up origins began. I just just had another Baby, moved into my first apartment and just I started back watching RUclips.

  • @cinders2894
    @cinders2894 3 года назад +9

    I adore this version. Neil Gaiman is such an incredible storyteller, with a deliciously twisted and magical mind. Just like Clive Barker. They are incredible visionaries. Thanks for doing this video, it was great, and I had no idea that this version existed! New subscriber! 🥰

  • @paulkofler519
    @paulkofler519 3 года назад +3

    But why wasn’t the queen concerned when she hung up Snows heart that it still beated? like I would be scared as hell😂

  • @Veronica-wz8ow
    @Veronica-wz8ow 3 года назад +44

    Yes! thank you John solo this always makes my Fridays from good to FANSTASTIC

  • @gnikawpleasant9013
    @gnikawpleasant9013 3 года назад +34

    I appreciate all of the research you put into these. I can feel every minute of the dedication.

    • @roberthenderson5368
      @roberthenderson5368 3 года назад +2

      Agreed. He deserves credit for the work he does. Glad you said it. Hopefully people will continue to be supportive. He's awesome. This channel is my nerd fix Lol. Seriously though I just gave to him on patreon. So glad I did with everything going on I don't have much money, But I think this was worth it.we should all chip in and, keep it going.

  • @krystalharper7966
    @krystalharper7966 3 года назад +6

    I've loved seeing Gunter grow up! I remember when he was a fluffy baby! Now he's a smushy old-looking fart! I love him!

  • @boxdryer6973
    @boxdryer6973 3 года назад +2

    My brother told me about you last night so checked out your videos and I got to say you are amazing keep them coming man.

  • @alicewilloughby4318
    @alicewilloughby4318 3 года назад +16

    I never saw the graphic novel (would love to!) but I read the story on line. Loved it but it creeped me out!
    9:20 - I guess the story was getting too scary for Gunther.
    Thank you for showing us pictures from the graphic novel! They're gorgeous!
    13:14 - *Wow!* That's an amazing picture in the background! Is that Anubus from Ancient Egyptian lore?
    Me: Mirror, mirror, on the wall,
    Who is the cutest of them all?
    Mirror: Gunther, or course, you know it's true!
    Jon's a close second, but he's too young for you!

  • @Elysia63
    @Elysia63 3 года назад +45

    Yk, Jon. Last night, I had a dream that you were doing and explaining the messed up origins of the movie *Balto* (1995)! 😂 BTW, how's that coming along with you??

  • @emilymoran9152
    @emilymoran9152 3 года назад +5

    I love this take on Snow White! It actually makes way more sense out of the details of the story than the original, IMO. Actually didn't know it was originally a graphic novel, though - I encountered it first in one of Gaiman's short story compilations.

  • @btitianwilson111
    @btitianwilson111 Год назад +2

    This was awsome Jon Solo! As a writer, and a huge fan of both mythology, and ancient fairy tales, you hit the mark on this one. Keep up the great work. You are very much appreciated!

  • @wolfyjohnson3589
    @wolfyjohnson3589 3 года назад +20

    I just saw Gaiman in the title and I was here for it, he's my favourite author :D
    Great video btw ^^ as always, whenever you do a Gaiman video, you never fail to impress or stay constructive in your criticism :D

  • @williamswonderland3636
    @williamswonderland3636 3 года назад +22

    also as a forest person we don't normally have duck feet that's the lack of people and i have dog feat

  • @pansypostelwait5134
    @pansypostelwait5134 2 года назад +3

    I love this version. Hope they make another about what happened to the village/kingdom after the queen died.

  • @gabrielle3960
    @gabrielle3960 3 года назад +3

    I’ve never imagined hearing “here’s where the story reaches peak kinkiness” while discussing Snow White

  • @kingddg218
    @kingddg218 3 года назад +13

    Why can't we get this as a movie

    • @InsaneLaughter01
      @InsaneLaughter01 3 года назад +6

      It might have to do with the fact that Snow White was 5-13 yrs old when she was going to ‘pleasure town’. There is also implication from the story that she may have raped her own father as well as he had the bite scars all over his body including his genitals. Oh and a grown man fucking the corpse of a 13 yr old girl back to life would be difficult to be approved for tv.
      I know HBO was gutsy with game of thrones but I’m pretty sure even they wouldn’t approve of this as a film.

  • @bluediamond1049
    @bluediamond1049 3 года назад +21

    Happy birthday, John! I love this take on the classic, your inclusion of Regina made my inner fangirl very happy. I'm familiar with plenty of variants of these stories, but this one was new for me.

  • @anneliesew4853
    @anneliesew4853 3 года назад +5

    I love the way he words things to where he can't get demonetized. "Pleasuretown" "funtunnel" XD

  • @alanaazlan
    @alanaazlan 3 года назад +3

    LOVE THIS! Please review The Spindle and The Sleeper and how (if it does) it connects to Snow, Glass, Apples. Is it a crossover with varying narratives? I'd love to know your thoughts!

  • @Crow29803
    @Crow29803 3 года назад +7

    I knew that was colleen’s art! Nice! She does that glass type work all the time! And Gaimen, he is awesome. I got to have this book for my Gaimen collection! Thank you! She also drew her own book, A Distance Soil.

  • @nylaw1490
    @nylaw1490 3 года назад +30

    this is a mix of got, once upon a time, the original and some messed up mess

  • @onlyonedeedee
    @onlyonedeedee 3 года назад +10

    There's a similarly dark version of cinderella where she is a witch and worships the devil. See if you can find that @JonSolo

  • @hyacinthlilim6323
    @hyacinthlilim6323 3 года назад +5

    I don't know if you would but Neil Gaimen & Terry Pratchett co-wrote this novel called Good Omens and it would be great to see you cover it! Love your videos John ♥️

  • @kawaiimarichan2134
    @kawaiimarichan2134 3 года назад +38

    *waking up to a Jon Solo video be like*: 👁️👄👁️👌

    • @riffonacrisis
      @riffonacrisis 3 года назад +3

      Yes 👁👄👁

    • @thespoiledtexan3904
      @thespoiledtexan3904 3 года назад +2

      Same. Only I woke from a nap after trying to stop a migraine. This was way more enjoyable than a migraine lol

  • @unluckyace1406
    @unluckyace1406 3 года назад +12

    can't wait for jon to reach 1 mill he deserves it love you jon

  • @biancaj2311
    @biancaj2311 3 года назад +1

    I've known Snow White was a vampire since I read "Red as Blood" by Tanith Lee. A vampire who shares my name :)
    I'm willing to take as gospel ("good story" or "good telling") anything Neil Gaiman writes. Thank you Jon for sharing these tales with us.

  • @angel6017
    @angel6017 3 года назад +2

    JON: "Some black ink spills out of her fun house"
    ME: What😃The😃 Actual😃Heck😃

  • @candiigurl7893
    @candiigurl7893 3 года назад +7

    I vividly remember watching the Coraline videos once they where released. Hard to believe a whole year has passed since then. Time flys when you’re havin fun watching Solo vids!

  • @ladyoftheabyss13
    @ladyoftheabyss13 3 года назад +10

    I didn't know this story even existed. I learned something new every time I watch an episode.

  • @steph0711
    @steph0711 3 года назад +2

    This version actually makes sense...it makes more sense that the queen wanted her dead so much. Killing someone because they're more beautiful than you? It was always such a weak reason/excuse.
    I like this version the most, but it does make me wonder how long that kingdom lasted after the queen died and Snow White was in charge.

    • @MoonDust22951
      @MoonDust22951 3 года назад

      Probably not very long since Snow would've gone around draining anyone within her reach. She also has the prince who does her bidding despite what she is because she's the only one he can get his rocks off to. Hopefully a certain vampire hunter takes her down.

  • @Mimi22668
    @Mimi22668 3 года назад +2

    I think you should do a series on "Classics Explained". You're such a great storyteller and teacher. You would make an awesome history teacher! 😊

  • @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
    @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 3 года назад +13

    This story is messed up as f***! Neil Gaiman is a genius! 🤯🤯🤯
    Thank you, Jon for making this video and happy birthday! 🎂🎁🥳🎃👻

  • @maggpiprime954
    @maggpiprime954 3 года назад +3

    Happy Birthday!
    I like the idea of your Gaiman/birthday tradition, but a whole year is an awful long wait!
    What if you celebrate also on your half-birthday? An UnBirthday Celebration with tea and a big, funny hat!

  • @robynvorsa9283
    @robynvorsa9283 3 года назад +8

    I love Neil Gaiman, this is one of his modern classics.

  • @mule-RIA
    @mule-RIA 3 года назад +1

    This has got to be one of my favorite videos youve done in a while .

  • @iiyaraii2597
    @iiyaraii2597 3 года назад +43

    CAN I BUY THIS BOOK SOMEWHERE?! I WANNA READ IT

    • @aiyannaboykins7888
      @aiyannaboykins7888 3 года назад +1

      I found it on books-a-millions website. I wanna buy it too. 😅

    • @jhhardage
      @jhhardage 3 года назад +6

      You can buy a digital version of the graphic novel through Comixology, Kindle and Nook. Physical copies you can buy online at just about any book store.
      The short story version which the graphic novel is based on is in Neil Gaiman's short story collection Smoke and Mirrors. Can also be bought physically at most book stores and is available on Kindle and Nook.

    • @JonSolo
      @JonSolo  3 года назад +18

      link in the description!

    • @jhhardage
      @jhhardage 3 года назад +3

      @@JonSolo 👍
      Oh! Buds Art Books offers a bookplate signed by the always awesome Colleen Doran when you order from them. Their site shows they still have some in stock. I bought a copy from them and it was worth it.

    • @iiyaraii2597
      @iiyaraii2597 3 года назад

      I just realized that I already haf my gifts So I don't think I can buy it soon,
      If only I know how to earn money at this age.

  • @melissachagaris3152
    @melissachagaris3152 3 года назад +6

    I must say, this story is definitely surpassed all previous ones in the S class Messed Up Tier

  • @katyj196
    @katyj196 3 года назад

    Great episode, happy birthday!

  • @dulceestrada3644
    @dulceestrada3644 3 года назад

    Happy birthday! You are my favorite creator on this platform and I have the rest of your day goes well!

  • @moonlit9020
    @moonlit9020 3 года назад +9

    I just got out of class and this is amazing

  • @alonzothomas3005
    @alonzothomas3005 3 года назад +3

    Messed up origins of stingy Jack/jack o lantern for Halloween

  • @Baughbe
    @Baughbe 3 года назад +2

    I remember hearing this story on The Seeing Ear Theater. I loved it.

  • @jade_mtl8816
    @jade_mtl8816 3 года назад

    happy belated birthday - and this is one of my favourite stories, so thank you! 💜

  • @barbarahouk1983
    @barbarahouk1983 3 года назад +3

    You did good Jon Solo. This is great research and great telling. I like your clarifications.
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY so glad your parents got together and produced you. You add much to the humanity curiosity side of my life. May you live long and proser.

  • @LaCrownedGamer
    @LaCrownedGamer 3 года назад +6

    I found this book 2 weeks ago at a comic book store. This is so much of an amazing coincidence 😍

  • @DoubleKay31
    @DoubleKay31 3 года назад

    Many happy returns of the day, Jon!

  • @celestepen3686
    @celestepen3686 3 года назад

    Happy late late birthday!🎂🥳 I love to binge ur messed up origins and got my family members loving ur content !👍🏻