Interesting to watch someone do this by hand. I'm sure there's a factory somewhere that stamps these things out by the unit in record time, but the care and effort it takes to do it by hand gives it the true mark of craftsmanship.
I watched a guy at National guitars solder body’s. After he built the solder up all the way around he would reheat the solder and rub/slide a wet rag over the solder making it smooth needing only a little sanding. He was also using a hotter fuel mix and tiny flame.
What is the composition of your solder? I am just wondering if you have taken creep into account. 60-40 electrical solder has a melting point of 183 degC or 456 degK. Room temperature is about 300 degK which is above half of the melting temperature a region where creep takes place.Solder can creep even under low stress. Cheers.
You can use the torch tips you have, but if they aren't convenient to use I would suggest a "Burnzomatic FirePoint" it has a base for the tank and a hose with adjustable gas nozzle for under $100. Hope this helps.
Love your videos.i just finished mine started it during the covid lock down. I had all the same issues that you did . I only had my phone no access to video but lots of pictures.
I started mine while stranded in PEI Canada in 2020 when all the boarders were locked down . My wife and i were fortunate enough to a rent home where we stayed for nearly a year. I had none of my tools but the place we rent had a garage and the owner allowed me to use what he had . I bought a few as well but was pretty limited. I had no plans I drew up plans by hand made templates using national steel pictures and specs . I built it 1 in bigger all around hoping for a deeper sound. I wasn’t able to finish it till i return home to Ontario.all the material were purchase in PEI the maple in the neck and the mahogany was from an old table that was given to me but the owner of the house we rented. I had all the same issues wth the soldering. I just finished it last week except for the fine tuning and clean up .Watching your videos was watching a video someone made of me building . Everything you did was the same thing i did except you had better tool and your shop.LOL I’d send some picture but i dont know how to attach it here.
@@Ninety2guits I started mine while stranded in PEI Canada in 2020 when all the boarders were locked down . My wife and i were fortunate enough to a rent home where we stayed for nearly a year. I had none of my tools but the place we rent had a garage and the owner allowed me to use what he had . I bought a few as well but was pretty limited. I had no plans I drew up plans by hand made templates using national steel pictures and specs . I built it 1 in bigger all around hoping for a deeper sound. I wasn’t able to finish it till i return home to Ontario.all the material were purchase in PEI the maple in the neck and the mahogany was from an old table that was given to me but the owner of the house we rented. I had all the same issues wth the soldering. I just finished it last week except for the fine tuning and clean up .Watching your videos was watching a video someone made of me building . Everything you did was the same thing i did except you had better tool and your shop.LOL I’d send some picture but i dont know how to attach it here.
Listen to Ron Covell, he is the ninja grand master of sheet metal. He's the sheet metal whisperer. Funny, as I was watching your earlier video's I thought to my self "man, this guy needs to watch some of Ron's videos". This is quite the project you have undertaken. Really neat to see your progress, mistakes, corrections and the whole development process. BTW, a bead roller is going to change your life with stuff like this. I don't recall if you have a metal lathe, if you do, you will be able to make your own rollers for the bead roller.
I don't have a metal lathe but my daughter can CNC mill and lathe just about anything I need. Been watching Ron use his bead roller and I can tell already I'm going to want to motorize it. I need to study Ron some more before I make the back, I would like it to be dished like an acoustic guitar with flat edges which sounds way above my skill set Lol.
@@Ninety2guits Totally agree on the motorized bead roller. Mine is hand cranked, gets to be a real pain when you have lots of rolling to do. I profiled over 70 maple leaves for a railing, it would have been nice to be able to guide the leaves with both hands....
Soldering: If you want to see how a professional solves the problem, search on RUclips for - Amazing Japanese watering can craftsman the process of making a copper drizzle - This guy makes amazing copper watering cans mostly by hand and solders all parts together. By the way: Thank you for your videos, I like to watch them!
Nope, the sides are perfect and don't need to rebuild anything, sometimes I'm not very good at explaining what I'm doing Lol. On the next ones I want to build the soundwell differently which might be what you were thinking needs rebuilding.
Agree. When I first started gathering supplies to try and learn this solder stuff I had my doubts about how strong it would be. I'm not doubting anymore.
A camping store would have an adapter from a 20 pound to a one pound with a 4 or 5 foot hose. I have one and use it often. I was wondering if a tig welder would work better. Someone out there might know. Nice work.
100%, those tips are fine to be attached to a propane tank and very high quality, you just need to light it yourself, but you have a gold mine in that drawer those are the expensive models. Also only use green tanks, it's the least hot, green, blue then yellow hottest. Just find one of those tips with a gas control and a small nozzle. I also recommend you buy a pneumatic angle die grinder 1/4 shaft, save time sanding!! Yikes! they are about 50$ on amazon, with discs, you'll thank me later! Peace.
I think I have an air angle die grinder, just need to dig it out. It's tough having such a small space, I tend to do things the hard way just because I don't want to unpack a tool from it's clever hiding spot. I think I will dig out the angle die grinder though, that's a good idea. I knew those tips were good quality, I got them from a guy who was a welder on the first Apollo space mission. When he passed away I got a whole bunch of stuff, but I haven't had time to learn all of it yet. Thanks for the comments.
@@Ninety2guits Awesome, yes absolutely find the angle grinder, it will save you time. As for the tips, just sit down and try them out, and you'll find a good one. Good luck.
Just found you. You may be my hero but I have to wait for future videos. I have a fabricated body from a pallet leftover in a Chicago building. There was 10-20 of them a guy was selling. I tried one neck, don't like it. I'm starting over now.
Definitely not going for a one off here. It looks like I have a long road and many learning moments ahead of me to get this process down. Thanks for following along.
Yes I think I need to go to a plumber store and see what my options are. I have an acetylene torch but it's very large and difficult to move around the shop and use easily. Hoping the acetylene torch tips can be hooked to a BBQ style propane tank. That would fit my space much better.
An acetyline plumbers setup uses a "mini"tank and a small hand held torch. I have one I'll give you if you want it. Love the channel...too cheepap to be a patreon
Friend, if I can ask you and if you can send me that blueprint from the computer, the link or how you can, since I don't have the exact dimensions and I have to make and prepare everything. It will be my first metal guitar. Greetings 😉
Nice work on this, building a steel resonator is on my list of projects too. Totally agree with the recommendation to watch Ron Covell’s channel. He’s super talented, and shows lots of techniques that give superb results without needing a million dollars of fancy tools.
Thank you. The problem I'm having with Ron right now is he makes it look so easy and then I'm really disappointed when I attempt and don't get the same results😁
maibe you can use an oxi acethylene torch on propane by connecting the oxigen side to the shop compressed air there are propane torches available that are asicly the same as the map gas torch heads in that the mix outside air intoo the torch through a ventury effect , think the chineese websites allso sell adapters to fit a gas hose to a mapgas torch head propane oxigen torches available and have seen a guy that bought an oxigen comressor they use for lungpatients , he had the machine put the air in a strong garbage bag and had a microswitch over the bag that actuated a small compressor sucking the oxigen out of the bag (used the inlet of the notmal small shop compessor ) and intoo an old propane tank at 10 atmosfere (could use the actual compressor tank to hold pure oxigen too) it works good enough for a small torch and is cheaer in the long run than buying the big oxigen tanks sumting else i been thinking about watching you trying to get everything to line up is to spotweld the tabs first than braze it afterwards , they sell these handheld spotwelders www.amazon.com/Professional-Electric-Welder-Welding-Systems/dp/B017JHWBNK wish might be just wat you need
I didn't hear if you were using a lead-free solder. Hopefully, it was, I probably missed it.
Interesting to watch someone do this by hand. I'm sure there's a factory somewhere that stamps these things out by the unit in record time, but the care and effort it takes to do it by hand gives it the true mark of craftsmanship.
Great stuff
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
Thank you! Cheers!
I watched a guy at National guitars solder body’s. After he built the solder up all the way around he would reheat the solder and rub/slide a wet rag over the solder making it smooth needing only a little sanding. He was also using a hotter fuel mix and tiny flame.
Wow that's great info. I wish I could see video of that. Wonder what his rag was made out of and what it was wet with. Thanks for the comment.
Great work! Can’t wait for the finished product
You and me both! We need to start a pool and guess how many episodes it will take :).
WOW! Don't see many videos where mistakes are made. Great job going through the whole process of getting things on point!
Hy, i'm in France and i love your videos. Well, is it possible to have the resonator plan, please ? thanks
What is the composition of your solder? I am just wondering if you have taken creep into account. 60-40 electrical solder has a melting point of 183 degC or 456 degK. Room temperature is about 300 degK which is above half of the melting temperature a region where creep takes place.Solder can creep even under low stress. Cheers.
I've seen the actual hammer mill molds for National steel resonators. At least in '97 they were sitting in a shed in Phoenix, AZ.
This is looking very good! This is my first look, and I'm impressed.
You can use the torch tips you have, but if they aren't convenient to use I would suggest a "Burnzomatic FirePoint" it has a base for the tank and a hose with adjustable gas nozzle for under $100. Hope this helps.
Yep, I like that setup. Thanks for the suggestion, hadn't seen that one before.
Love your videos.i just finished mine started it during the covid lock down. I had all the same issues that you did . I only had my phone no access to video but lots of pictures.
Nice. Is it on a forum anywhere, would be cool to see? Did you have any better solutions to the problems than I did?
I started mine while stranded in PEI Canada in 2020 when all the boarders were locked down . My wife and i were fortunate enough to a rent home where we stayed for nearly a year. I had none of my tools but the place we rent had a garage and the owner allowed me to use what he had . I bought a few as well but was pretty limited. I had no plans I drew up plans by hand made templates using national steel pictures and specs . I built it 1 in bigger all around hoping for a deeper sound. I wasn’t able to finish it till i return home to Ontario.all the material were purchase in PEI the maple in the neck and the mahogany was from an old table that was given to me but the owner of the house we rented. I had all the same issues wth the soldering. I just finished it last week except for the fine tuning and clean up .Watching your videos was watching a video someone made of me building . Everything you did was the same thing i did except you had better tool and your shop.LOL I’d send some picture but i dont know how to attach it here.
Her name is Charlotte the Island Steel
@@Ninety2guits I started mine while stranded in PEI Canada in 2020 when all the boarders were locked down . My wife and i were fortunate enough to a rent home where we stayed for nearly a year. I had none of my tools but the place we rent had a garage and the owner allowed me to use what he had . I bought a few as well but was pretty limited. I had no plans I drew up plans by hand made templates using national steel pictures and specs . I built it 1 in bigger all around hoping for a deeper sound. I wasn’t able to finish it till i return home to Ontario.all the material were purchase in PEI the maple in the neck and the mahogany was from an old table that was given to me but the owner of the house we rented. I had all the same issues wth the soldering. I just finished it last week except for the fine tuning and clean up .Watching your videos was watching a video someone made of me building . Everything you did was the same thing i did except you had better tool and your shop.LOL I’d send some picture but i dont know how to attach it here.
@@Ninety2guits Her name is Charlotte the Island Steel
Great job! 👍👍
Thank you! 👍
Listen to Ron Covell, he is the ninja grand master of sheet metal. He's the sheet metal whisperer. Funny, as I was watching your earlier video's I thought to my self "man, this guy needs to watch some of Ron's videos". This is quite the project you have undertaken. Really neat to see your progress, mistakes, corrections and the whole development process. BTW, a bead roller is going to change your life with stuff like this. I don't recall if you have a metal lathe, if you do, you will be able to make your own rollers for the bead roller.
I don't have a metal lathe but my daughter can CNC mill and lathe just about anything I need. Been watching Ron use his bead roller and I can tell already I'm going to want to motorize it. I need to study Ron some more before I make the back, I would like it to be dished like an acoustic guitar with flat edges which sounds way above my skill set Lol.
@@Ninety2guits Totally agree on the motorized bead roller. Mine is hand cranked, gets to be a real pain when you have lots of rolling to do. I profiled over 70 maple leaves for a railing, it would have been nice to be able to guide the leaves with both hands....
Great work - thanks for sharing. Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Ahhh yeah! Happy days
Soldering: If you want to see how a professional solves the problem, search on RUclips for - Amazing Japanese watering can craftsman the process of making a copper drizzle - This guy makes amazing copper watering cans mostly by hand and solders all parts together.
By the way: Thank you for your videos, I like to watch them!
aren't those swedged together? they snap together and the solder?
Awesome. But you have to rebuild the sides?
Nope, the sides are perfect and don't need to rebuild anything, sometimes I'm not very good at explaining what I'm doing Lol. On the next ones I want to build the soundwell differently which might be what you were thinking needs rebuilding.
Great test example. Super strong and never would guitar go through that kind of sideways torsion. So you know it's going to be bomber.
Agree. When I first started gathering supplies to try and learn this solder stuff I had my doubts about how strong it would be. I'm not doubting anymore.
Really enjoying your builds! awesome stuff, and you are pretty funny!
Hey, thanks!
A camping store would have an adapter from a 20 pound to a one pound with a 4 or 5 foot hose. I have one and use it often. I was wondering if a tig welder would work better. Someone out there might know. Nice work.
That's a great idea! There is so much cool stuff on your channel I have a hard time choosing what to learn about next. Great work!
100%, those tips are fine to be attached to a propane tank and very high quality, you just need to light it yourself, but you have a gold mine in that drawer those are the expensive models. Also only use green tanks, it's the least hot, green, blue then yellow hottest. Just find one of those tips with a gas control and a small nozzle. I also recommend you buy a pneumatic angle die grinder 1/4 shaft, save time sanding!! Yikes! they are about 50$ on amazon, with discs, you'll thank me later! Peace.
I think I have an air angle die grinder, just need to dig it out. It's tough having such a small space, I tend to do things the hard way just because I don't want to unpack a tool from it's clever hiding spot. I think I will dig out the angle die grinder though, that's a good idea. I knew those tips were good quality, I got them from a guy who was a welder on the first Apollo space mission. When he passed away I got a whole bunch of stuff, but I haven't had time to learn all of it yet. Thanks for the comments.
@@Ninety2guits Awesome, yes absolutely find the angle grinder, it will save you time. As for the tips, just sit down and try them out, and you'll find a good one. Good luck.
Just found you. You may be my hero but I have to wait for future videos. I have a fabricated body from a pallet leftover in a Chicago building. There was 10-20 of them a guy was selling. I tried one neck, don't like it. I'm starting over now.
Fantastic…..hopefully with some of the new tools it won’t be a one off !
Definitely not going for a one off here. It looks like I have a long road and many learning moments ahead of me to get this process down. Thanks for following along.
Awesome progress, 👍👍
Music sounds like Quiet riot ” cum on feel the noise ”. ( Slade )
Well that takes me back a few years Lol
Try a plumber supply and look into an acetyline torch.
Yes I think I need to go to a plumber store and see what my options are. I have an acetylene torch but it's very large and difficult to move around the shop and use easily. Hoping the acetylene torch tips can be hooked to a BBQ style propane tank. That would fit my space much better.
An acetyline plumbers setup uses a "mini"tank and a small hand held torch. I have one I'll give you if you want it. Love the channel...too cheepap to be a patreon
@@Ninety2guits I think you'd find map gas a bit more useful silver solder?
Friend, if I can ask you and if you can send me that blueprint from the computer, the link or how you can, since I don't have the exact dimensions and I have to make and prepare everything. It will be my first metal guitar. Greetings 😉
Do you have the plans for this dobro?
Hi Michael, my email is on my channel page. Hit me up on there and I can get them to you, Thanks.
Have ya thought about putting your solder roll in your shirt pocket, it will get it out of the way of the project.
Check out Smith Little Torch.
Nice work on this, building a steel resonator is on my list of projects too. Totally agree with the recommendation to watch Ron Covell’s channel. He’s super talented, and shows lots of techniques that give superb results without needing a million dollars of fancy tools.
Thank you. The problem I'm having with Ron right now is he makes it look so easy and then I'm really disappointed when I attempt and don't get the same results😁
maibe you can use an oxi acethylene torch on propane by connecting the oxigen side to the shop compressed air
there are propane torches available that are asicly the same as the map gas torch heads in that the mix outside air intoo the torch through a ventury effect , think the chineese websites allso sell adapters to fit a gas hose to a mapgas torch head propane oxigen torches available and have seen a guy that bought an oxigen comressor they use for lungpatients , he had the machine put the air in a strong garbage bag and had a microswitch over the bag that actuated a small compressor sucking the oxigen out of the bag (used the inlet of the notmal small shop compessor ) and intoo an old propane tank at 10 atmosfere (could use the actual compressor tank to hold pure oxigen too)
it works good enough for a small torch and is cheaer in the long run than buying the big oxigen tanks
sumting else i been thinking about watching you trying to get everything to line up is to spotweld the tabs first than braze it afterwards , they sell these handheld spotwelders
www.amazon.com/Professional-Electric-Welder-Welding-Systems/dp/B017JHWBNK
wish might be just wat you need