I have no idea why other car review channels exist when you have Alex. Hands down the best out there. Such a detailed explanation and on top Alex talks direct to consumers, not talking a scientific language like others. If you like a car, what it on Alex on Autos and go buy it. People working at dealerships have half the knowledge of this channel.
Savagegeese might be worth your time to check out. Kind of a different style so the 2 may not be in competition, but definitely top notch. I subscribe to both, but savagegeese is my favorite and I will watch ANYTHING that he reviews. For Alex, I will only watch him review vehicles that I would consider buying.
Steve Printy love, love Savagegeese. Mark is the best. He and Alex, two totally different styles. My neighbor was looking for a car for his wife and I turned him onto Alex. My dad bought a Volvo S60 because of the savage goose, and I bought an Acura TLX Because of Alex.
Alex is very thorough about features most buyers care about, and about placement relative to competitors, but he could be more concise. Savagegeese is just wonderful. Mark produces beautiful videos and gives comprehensive technical explanations, along with some very dry humor. His channel is much more aimed towards performance car enthusiasts, though he does discuss more ordinary cars, too, if not as thoroughly as Alex.
Basically...watch a few of Alex's videos instead of going to a dealership and being lied to for half an hour. Then just go for the test drive to see how it feels in reality
This sounds a lot like Acura sedans. The ILX, TLX, and RLX and embarrassed by the Civic and especially the Accord. It looks like Acura is going to fix this by branching off from Honda with their own platform and their own infotainment.
One year ago I bought a 2019 RAV4 Limited Hybrid, fully loaded. It’s a sweet ride, but now I’m seriously considering trading it in for the 2021 Venza which is much better looking inside and out, has power passenger seat, HUD and will most likely be quieter than the RAV4. Hopefully it won’t have the RAV4’s gas tank problem that Toyota acknowledges, but has no solution. Looking forward to seeing the Venza in person.
Very interesting review of an interesting vehicle, Alex. The mainstream midsize crossover category is huge. Two categories really. A group of larger 3 row vehicles that range in length from 195" (Highlander) to 203" (Traverse) and a group of smaller, typically 2 row CUVs that range from about 188" (Santa Fe, Ford Edge, etc) to 192" or so in length*. (Murano, Grand Cherokee, Blazer, etc.) Nearly all manufacturers offer vehicles in each category, the exceptions being Mazda** and until introduction of the new Venza, Toyota. But how various manufacturers have approached designing separate entries in the two sub-categories has differed. Some brands have based their two offerings on different platforms (e.g. Edge vs Explorer, Santa Fe vs Palisade, Blazer vs Traverse.) Others have simply reduced the size of their 3 row CUV's to provide a two row version. (e.g. Honda Pilot, VW Cross Sport). Toyota has taken a somewhat different approach with the Venza being a stretched version of the RAV4 but with a host of other differences, in terms of both style and substance. Apparently, the popularity of the RAV4 and Highlander hybrids has convinced Toyota to limit the Venza (nee Harrier) to a hybrid power train. No sunroof but a glass roof that darkens at the flip of a switch a la Mercedes Benz. Pretty trick. Obviously neither the Venza nor the Highlander is more than a very soft off-roader. But Toyota has the aging but still strong selling (and true "SUV") 4Runner for those who consider off-roading a high priority. In terms of size (exterior and interior) the Venza is at the low end of the smaller midsize CUV category just as the Highlander is at the low end of larger 3 row group but Highlander owners accept an extremely cramped third row and Toyota apparently believes a significant portion of their potential customers would prefer just to eliminate a tiny and cramped third row, altogether. I suspect they're right. The Highlander may well lose some sales to the Venza but from Toyota's point of view that's better than would-be customers defecting to other brands. I suspect the new Venza will be a strong seller for suburbanites who enjoy a close relationship with Costco and as a small family road tripper with excellent fuel economy. * VW's Cross Sport is an exception being 195.5" long; it's a very large 2 row CUV, half an inch longer than a Highlander. And KIA stands more or less alone in offering a smaller CUV, the Sorento (189") with three rows. **Mazda has a smaller midsize CUV,, the CX-8, but doesn't offer it in the US. Similar to the Venza, the CX-8 is a stretched version of the compact CX-5.
I agree that the NX will be a hard sell once the Venza goes on sale. I had a loaner NX and thought it was just okay. The UX hybrid looks much better but the trunk is just too small for me. I'll probably wait until next year to see what the new NX looks like but the Venza is really tempting. Unless the new NX is a huge improvement it will be hard to justify the roughly $10K extra for an NX. Too bad the large screen is split all the time but super glad that it's touch. I don't miss the sun/moon roof at all.
D D Nissan is not as reliable as Toyota plus there are compromises with charging in winter on road trips. My Tesla goes further than that but I want no more compromises.
For me, this Venza checks all the boxes. I am happy to see that it returned. I recall seeing it several years ago and then, it disappeared. I would like to read more about what is powered by the battery beside the brakes. What is the difference between the 2021 and 2022 models? With the current chip issue, I am hopeful that m American-made Trailblazer will be worth more than BB value.
Lovely design but here are some concerns. 1. It's larger than a RAV4 but has less cargo room than on the inside. Three inches shorter than the old Venza. It's billed as being bigger than the RAV4 but smaller than the Highlander. They should increase the wheelbase to give more backseat/ cargo room. 2. Less headroom than a RAV4, and even less with the sunroof. Make it taller. 3. Would prefer a moonroof (opens to the elements) than a sunroof with the glass that frosts on/ off. The frosting would be cooler if it darkened, rather than just frosted. Combine a moonroof with darkened frosting and you have a winner. 4. Lower the infotainment system and integrate it into the dashboard instead of the stuck-on tablet style. 5. No volume knob on the larger 12.3” screen. Huge mistake, just ask Honda. 6. Shiny black plastic is just a fingerprint magnet. Use something else that won't show prints and get easily scratched up. 7. The rear turn signal lights are integrated into the bumper and are **too** low. 8. Offer it as a plug-in hybrid. Supposedly, they were waiting to see how the RAV4 Prime would sell and it's poised to be hugely successful as a PHEV. 9. Don't like the touch-sensitive controls in the dashboard. 10. Climate controls change the temperature 1 degree each time you press, unless you press and hold. Use knobs instead; they're faster. 11. With tax, it would be close to $60K in Canada.
Nice review, Alex. Thank you. We're empty nesters and I keep ending up looking at 3 row crossovers when we really don't need that much room. This new Venza is intriguing.
Unfortunately, a hybrid. If you trade vehicles after 10 years or less you probably will like this vehicle. But for those that want a vehicle they can own for 10+ years or in excess of 150k driving miles get a gasoline powered vehicle. When it is time to replace the battery pack expect to pay $6500+. Should the AWD go out after warranty expect to spend $2500+ to replace this part. Trade in value will also drop faster than a gasoline powered vehicle.
The previous Venza wasn't a huge hit. This cost them very little as it already existed overseas. If you don't think of it as a Venza 2.0 it's an appealing vehicle.
We just pick up our new Toyota Venza XLE in coastal gray metallic . We had an preorder on rav 4 prime but decided to go with the Venza instead. This is our first hybrid vehicle so we hope all works well. Excellent job on all your reviews Alex keep up with the good work. Your review on this vehicle made us change our mind to pick up the Venza
I like a lot of about the car except the ridiculous turn signal placement, which I think compromises the safety and no physical buttons controls for HVAC and volume control.
So what exactly is the selling point for this vehicle? It’s a tad smaller than the Rav 4, way smaller than the segment it’s being marketed for, underpowered, no traditional moonroof...so why buy? Some previous gen Venda owners aren’t feeling it. Why not just buy the Rav 4 Prime or the hybrid Rav 4?
I suspect that the ride will be a bit better and quieter than the RAV4. Also has power front passenger seat. But I get what you're saying, it's mostly about style and doesn't add anything practical.
It's big enough for four adults and then some. The additional space in the RAV4 doesn't make it meaningfully better for most buyers. People with kids or who haul a lot of stuff would be better off with the Highlander. This is for someone who wants a more premium experience without getting the bigger vehicle, and who prefers sleeker styling than the rather truck-like RAV4.
It is longer in size than RAV4. Has more premium interior and styling. The naming is strange, it should just be called Harrier and be a new vehicle in the lineup. This is more of a modern hatchback for people who are afraid to buy a wagon.
Seems to me Toyota should have just invested in more NVH padding on the Rav4 and called it a day. With the Rav4 being more spacious, better ground clearance, and already printing money, Toyota put a lot of R&D funds into something I don't see selling very well, (the Venza).
It already existed as a model elsewhere, so it cost them very little beyond marketing. The SUV market is so big that slicing it as finely as possible does have a logic to it. Some people, including me, don't find the rather truck-like styling of the current RAV4 very appealing. I'd rather have this.
In Dog wha is your problem? You’re out here shutting up everyone who doesn’t like the new Venza. Your opinion is not the only one that matters. Everyone else is entirely to express theirs. Stop being an asshole
I had high hopes the Venza would split the size difference between the Highlander and RAV. The RAV’s backseat is too small and I don’t need the 3rd row, or cost, of the Highlander.
I have a 2011 Venza V6 FWD - it has been flawless in every way. The only things I don't care for are the somewhat stiff ride (depending on pavement) and road noise over coarse asphalt. W/only 49K miles in 9 years I plan to keep it for many years to come. It has all the amenities (Pano roof, JBL 14 speaker audio, HID lights, real leather seats, etc) so compared to this new 'Venza' I may pass. No opening roof, no V6 (smooth effortless power) and less room. It may have the latest in electronic features and better MPG but this is really a Rav-4 Hybrid in fancy duds. The new Venza is quite stylish but it would probably cost 45K to get a loaded Limited - to much for a 4-cylinder anything.
You may be waiting a while. Toyota normally wont comment if there is something in the pipeline, but they actually said they had no plans for a Prime "at this time"
A sunroof is just one more electric accessory that I would rarely use and one more thing that can go wrong (gasket or seal leaks, road noise, malfunction). I would just as soon not have one, but it kind of "comes with the territory" on highest-end trims. On the other hand, volume knobs are a good thing... in fact, more physical controls are a good thing. Even something as high tech as SpaceX's Crew Dragon with it's "glass cockpit" still has manual buttons/switches for key functions.
Super glad Toyota decided to bring back their premium Harrier to the US market. It's been such an excellent option in other foreign markets for years, and our very own Lexus RX was a gussied up Harrier back in the day. Great vehicles! Love this new one with all the smooth lines and unique shapes - it really stands out as a premium alternative to the RAV4 without the price of the Lexus. Very interested to see how the market responds to this new Venza. Personally, I'd have loved it if they'd kept the Harrier name, it just sounds better, but otherwise no complaints from me! Looks like a good overall package.
It does look nice but honestly I’d prefer the old gen venza because it was a lot more practical in cargo and rear seat space. This new venza has less space than a rav4 🤦♂️
Right Lane Hog speaking of which, how do you feel about the TNGA platform in their core products like the rav4 Camry or Corolla? I’m personally torn. Either I get a more practical interior but give up handling, or get handling, and give up practicality
I think the new Venza is targeted at people that don't check spec lists at all. It's like the Volkswagen CC or Beetle. If you care about lineage or specs, they have obvious siblings that are more practical, but you're buying this model specifically for style.
@@naveenthemachine I'm too tall for the sedans and I barely fit in the Rav4 without a moonroof. To put it in perspective, the last genuine Toyota Yaris (2019) hatch had more headroom than today's RAV4. That's why I call it TNJA - Toyota New Jockey Architecture.
Right Lane Hog well that’s the side effect of automotive journalists criticizing Toyota for being boring looks and handling wise. But I agree. The old Toyota’s were far more practical. But I’m torn. The new core models like the rav4 Highlander Camry and Corolla have overall impressed me
Ariya looks way nicer. I had first Gen Harrier ala rx300 and a Leaf. So i had predecessors of both these new models. The Venza looks nice, but the Ariya is AMAZABALLs. Pricing and size is also similar so they directly compete
I know it sounds petty, but the rear turn signals being so low, might be deal killer. Can't believe that passed DOT. Guess we'll just keep our 2012 Lexus RX450h for a while longer.
I'm want a Venza that rings all the bells. This one seems to fall short with each bit more I learn about it. It is great to have a hybrid, but why take away from other options to do so? Patiently waiting to see the end result, but know there isn't any time to change much. Hoping the price won't be a joke. Thank you, Alex, for all the details! You do an amazing job!
Yea like Alex I thought this was going to be a two row Highlander. I guess I’m gonna just leave that third row down, if I get the Highlander hybrid. I’m still holding out for a year in case they bring out a Highlander Prime. However, if they’re having trouble with putting out enough RAV4 Primes then maybe I shouldn’t wait ?
@@AE-ix2iz I would just get the hybrid. IMO, a highlander prime won't even be released, and if it does it will be unlikely to be announced by the end of next year. It will still be really difficult to buy a rav 4 prime next year .
That’s really where Toyota screwed up with this. This is 5 inches longer on the outside, but somehow less practical. I don’t think this is gonna steal many Lexus sales. This has a tough job going up against the already-established RAV4 and NX/RX which are some of the best selling crossovers out there
RAV4 Hybrid (non-prime) moved to lithium batteries on June 2020 production vehicles and later. It’s even on Toyota’s website for the RAV4 under the specs.
Better ride and lower noise, good if not great room inside, quick but not quickest . . . sounds like the old Venza, but that hybrid is what has my attention! I've never been comfortable in the RAV4, but this seems right up my alley. I will admit that I would like a moonroof . . . unlike most folks, I use it dozens of times a year . . . the new roof is interesting, but I like an opening moonroof!! I'm watching to see what Toyota does with the Venza over the next year or two . . .
Very sharp. I think what Toyota is doing here is close to what Ford is doing with the Bronco Sport and Escape. One you can get more of streamlined look, the other more sporty.
Being taller, I was hoping for a 2 row Toyota between the newly redesigned and shortened Rav-4 and the Newly redesigned and lengthened Highlanders which offers significantly less legroom than the 2019 model. Again Toyota does not fit our needs and if we are getting a 3 row Suv, there are many more accommodating new vehicles offered by their competitors.
Based on a quick check, the front legroom in the Highlander is 2 inches less than the old model. It's not like it was cut in half. You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
They should've added a sequential turn signal into the rear lights in addition to the tiny one which should be only there for legal reasons and not as an actual turn signal.
Rear turn signal placement is just as bad as it is in the Kia Forte... their low position makes them harder to see and if somebody bumps into you, you'll need new lights. I also don't understand why Toyota is potentially cannibalizing Lexus sales, considering Lexus is already having problems with some models in that regard. Other than that it looks alright, I guess.
I own a 2015 OB & am actively looking for a replacement - specifically one with at least as much space and better MPG. Venza looks great from MPG standpoint - major bonus! However, even though its exterior specs are very close to current OB, lack of interior space similar to OB is a major downer for me. Even for relatively short gut at 5' 8". when I sat in the RAV-4 it felt claustrophobic with roof being too low for me. Given the lower roof line of the Venza, I anticipate it will be similar or more claustrophobic. I'll check it out but suspect the lack of interior space will be a major negative when compared to OB. Additionally, the low turn signals also a turnoff. I feel like they are low enough to compromise visibility in heavy traffic. Also the cargo area lift over appears rather high. I'm holding out until the 2021 Sorento Hybrid makes the scene before making any purchase. Honda CR-V Hybrid is looking pretty temping for this two time Outback owner right now too!
I wanted to love it but the smaller cargo space size, no leather options, and no Moon roof is a no go especially if its on the high price point side. I'm interested to know how much it will end up being since that's the real deciding factor.
So True, We wanted another Toyota, but this generation' s cramped and legroom shrunk designs has killed it for us. Being taller, we had to switch to better designed and more accommodating new vehicle offered by a competitor.
Alex, Did you say even LESS leg room, less headroom and less cargo space than a RAV4? #TNJA - Toyota New Jockey Architecture is becoming more confounding with each new model. I can hardly wait for the next video when you tell us this Venza costs as much as a Highlander ;-) On a positive note, I commend TMC for going all-Hybrid with another new model.
Right Lane Hog true. But surprisingly the Corolla and Camry and Avalon didn’t feel cramped for me. Taller folks yes it would. My ideal cars I’d own are a Toyota on the TNGA platform and one Toyota cuv or suv on the previous gen platform
Was looking forward to the Venza as I was looking for a two-row Highlander. We have a 2019 Santa Fe, and when doing our comparison shopping, found the RAV4 to be a tad narrow for our taste, whereas the SF is roughly 3.5” wider, which is noticeable for us. It would seem Toyota doesn’t have what we want this time around; since we enjoy our SF, I guess we will wait to replace our aging sedan until we see the new ‘21 Santa Fe.
The redesigned 2022 Lexus NX also rides on the Rav4 platform, so what does this Venza mean for the NX? This means the NX may get more sporty in its drive, and go in the direction of the Acura RDX The NX may go after a younger, more affluent buyer, where the Venza goes after the traditional "empty nester"
Glad Toyota offers this, but keep in mind you can get an AWD Rav4 Hybrid starting for less than $30k. This will start around $35k, so you better be a bells-and-whistles buyer It's biggest competition will be the Rav4 Hybrid. If the Rav4 is too unrefined for you, get the Venza
Great preview. Toyota gave up some real world practically in terms of size/space but they have gained much more in terms of style over the competition. Although it still remains a CUV with a traditional layout they have done a great job with ditching the cookie cutter design. As most people won’t go off-road like marketing suggests, nor will they have it crammed full of camping gear, I forsee this as a runaway success.
Kuya Millefune Since the vehicle is more focused on luxury than sport, it makes sense Toyota went more with the L look than the S look. I don’t expect any S versions.
Have the engineers that designed the rear turn signals ever driven in the snow? Kia and Hyundai have had the signals on the bumpers on the rear for years. They are impossible to see when following a vehicle in the snow. What a poor design. I have a 2015 Venza and love it. Usually the newer versions improve on the previous model but I have to say that I am disappointed.
@@Kevin19700 talk about vulnerable to damage, their trunk door is part of the bumper lol. One bump at the parking street and instead of a minor cosmetic issue, you'll end up with a trunk door that doesnt close correctly instead. TOYOTA engineers at its finest.. -. -
If you can't see the turn signals of the car in front of you , on the bumper or elsewhere, then you're too close to the car. Especially in snow. They're on the bumper so that if the tailgate is open and the flashers are on, you can still see them.
I can’t wrap my head around why the Venza exists. If I wanted a luxury RAV4, I’d rather have a Lexus. I think it needed to be a 2-row that had more room than the RAV, probably a little less than the Highlander; but the Highlander is small for its class, the same size could’ve still worked.
Just seem like this vehicle was shoehorned into the lineup. I used to want the original venza. Seem right size and unique (guess it was a wagon with a nice style). Think they should of made it a wagon to make it unique. Just seem like a luxury trim of the rav 4 without possibility of moon/sunroof (which you can get in a rav 4), without leather, and lack of details that illustrates the difference. The outside styling is very appealing to me but thought it'll be closer to passport/atlas as size. Personal it might come down to price. Think rav4 hybrid can hit 40,000+. Figure lexus compact SUV will be 45000. So practically I go for the rav4 limit. If I want prestige I'll go for the lexus. Which leaves the venza in no man's land.
They already have the vehicle for other markets, so the question is whether it's worth importing it. I'm sure they figure the sleeker styling will appeal to some people who find the RAV4 boxy and truck-like, inside and out. Given the choice, I'd take the Venza for that reason. The minor advantages of the RAV4 are things I don't care about.
@@markmiller3279 My biggest reservation about the RAV4 so far has been the lack of true upper-end interior. What's disappointing about this Venza is that it's supposed to be a more luxurious version of the RAV4, but it's still falling short of the Avalon or Highlander's Limited trim level, especially the seats. I would have been perfectly happy with a RAV4 with that level of interior.
Per CR, the Highlander city mpg is 14. The Venza city mpg is 40. We actually went down to buy a Highlander. None available. One Venza, a limited, came in that morning. It was that or nothing. We bought it. It drives like a big car. I would like a friendlier infotainment setup, no other complaints. I’ve never had a hybrid before. A nice change. The 12.3 inch screen is nice. All Venza’s are AWD.
We drove a gen 1 Venza and were not impressed. It was strangely styled inside, had a marginal driving experience and had terrible gas mileage. We’ve owned quite a few Toyotas over the years (Corona, Corolla, Corolla, Corolla, Camry, Camry, Prius), but are unlikely to buy another at this point. Not that we don’t like the quality and reliability, but their cars no longer meet our needs.
*Mazda:* Tries premium with a non-luxury badge. Falls on their face. *Hyundai:* Tries premium with a non-luxury badge. Falls on their face. *Toyota:* "I have an idea..." This is a mistake, from derating the tow to the smaller cargo space this is an inferior vehicle. The styling is great, but I think it'll do about as well as Mazda and Hyundai ~5 years ago did. It costs them almost nothing since it's already sold in Japan, but they should at a minimum have given it towing capability.
Toyota made a mistake by calling it Venza. What is the problem for Toyota to offer a 5 seat Harrier with slightly higher suspension and some rugged items? It is a Harrier - a more luxurious RAV4, that is a hatchback that is a touch taller than 20 y.o. cars. This is not a competition or a replacement for RAV4. This is a motorway or a city vehicle. It is much more comfortable and quieter than RAV4. The target customers are different. It does make sense for a lot of people and it will sell well worldwide.
Toyota gets it. They know there's a market for luxury that also DOESN'T want a pretentious badge. .... Avalon has sold well for 25 years with this formula with little advertising. This isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but I can see what they're doing here.
Don Swier I see that too but I have to say the practicality disappointed me. Quite a bit of Less cargo space than the rav4, and less interior room too. The old venza was more practical than this to be honest. I can see what Toyota is trying to do in stylizing their new products to shed the boring label automotive journalists have criticized of Toyota. Admittedly some of their products like the Camry and Avalon have all attracted me. But personally I’m torn as to whether I would rather have practically boring or impractically sexy
me too, I was hoping but no way Toyota, shrunk and too cramped for our needs. The real killer was that the passenger seat could NOT be adjusted even manually to the same depth and distance from the pedals and roof that the driver's seat could be adjusted. It should work for smaller families, but that is why we are not getting the Rav-4 hybrid or prime
@@needleontherecord Or taller Americans either, if it works for someone they will compare it with the competition and maybe buy it. Head and legroom are super important to me being taller, but these are qualities that Toyota is moving away from to create more cramped, smaller and more fuel efficient models; nothing wrong with that, but being previous Toyota owners we were hoping for better and had to look elsewhere
Turn signals are too low and small. It seems Hybrids are the only option now. That’s too bad. I don’t want the increased maintenance expense of replacing electric motors
I don't like it. Smaller than the RAV4, but weighs 150 lbs more? I still prefer our 2014 Venza (which my wife drives). (For me, I like my 2020 RAV4 Hybrid)...
Toyota/Lexus produce excellent products but i sometimes wonder about the people hired to design the snouts of their vehicles? Hopefully this front end will look better in person.
not every component of the harrier was carried over to the venza. its missing a pair of foglamps (underneath the chrome lining at the bottom of the grill) and adjustable volume knobs for the mid trim spec. why is toyota preserving all the good stuff for japan only?
Horizontal plastic slats in front grill remind me of Lexus low end grills - large plastic area looks cheap like those old Mazda smile grills - they should offer some type of metal mesh for higher spec grades.
I was hoping it would be the Avalon version of the Venza, but it's clear that it falls far short of those features. It makes me wonder if Toyota will rebadge this as a Lexus with more premium features that are lacking and make it a non-starter for me.
Why do these reviews never mention seat height adjustment? This is perhaps the most important feature. It's the first feature I consider when buying a new vehicle. I want to make sure I have plenty of site height over the steering wheel and these reviews never mention it. Sad.
The thing about this SUV that I see everyone in the comment section and even Toyota USA themselves not getting is: This vehicle is not a 2-row Highlander variant, or an alternative to RAV4. This vehicle - or more correctly, the Harrier - when was sold in Japan, was more of a budget "luxury-esque" vehicle in competition to the Mazda CX-5 also sold in Japan. So in my personal opinion, the Venza should've been marketed as a competition to said CX-5 and entry-level luxury SUVs like the Acura RDX, Lincoln Nautilus etc. But still comparing the Venza/Harrier to established luxury brands like Acura is quite an odd thoughts. But since Mazda is turning it's brand into a "luxury" brand itself, I see no reasons not to try and compare the Venza/Harrier to the ranks of RDX and Nautilus...
Alex, I like the size chart. Can you please put a length in inches for the venza as in Venza 182 in (etc) in the blue slash bar. No need to provide lengths for the other comparison models.
I have no idea why other car review channels exist when you have Alex. Hands down the best out there. Such a detailed explanation and on top Alex talks direct to consumers, not talking a scientific language like others. If you like a car, what it on Alex on Autos and go buy it. People working at dealerships have half the knowledge of this channel.
they exist to make us appreciate him.
Savagegeese might be worth your time to check out. Kind of a different style so the 2 may not be in competition, but definitely top notch. I subscribe to both, but savagegeese is my favorite and I will watch ANYTHING that he reviews. For Alex, I will only watch him review vehicles that I would consider buying.
Steve Printy same, savagegeese is da best
Steve Printy love, love Savagegeese. Mark is the best. He and Alex, two totally different styles. My neighbor was looking for a car for his wife and I turned him onto Alex. My dad bought a Volvo S60 because of the savage goose, and I bought an Acura TLX Because of Alex.
Alex is very thorough about features most buyers care about, and about placement relative to competitors, but he could be more concise. Savagegeese is just wonderful. Mark produces beautiful videos and gives comprehensive technical explanations, along with some very dry humor. His channel is much more aimed towards performance car enthusiasts, though he does discuss more ordinary cars, too, if not as thoroughly as Alex.
*The sparkles of this car’s paint look so beautiful in the close up shots* 😍👍
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Good grief! Smh!
If we only had real leadership in the US instead of psycho orange man.
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Basically...watch a few of Alex's videos instead of going to a dealership and being lied to for half an hour. Then just go for the test drive to see how it feels in reality
Lexus won't have an answer until the NX redesign 2022 model next fall. Venza is beginning to make the RX and NX look ancient.
Pretty much ever Lexus is ancient, that would be okay if it were a rugged SUV or truck but not luxury cars.
Will the NX be EV or continue with ICE/Hybrid/PHEV like current RAV4?
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Lexus SUVs are barely hanging on to sales too!
This sounds a lot like Acura sedans. The ILX, TLX, and RLX and embarrassed by the Civic and especially the Accord. It looks like Acura is going to fix this by branching off from Honda with their own platform and their own infotainment.
I would definitely age with the NX and to be honest I've forgotten about that suv since they offer the UX and RX and their bigger SUVs.
One year ago I bought a 2019 RAV4 Limited Hybrid, fully loaded. It’s a sweet ride, but now I’m seriously considering trading it in for the 2021 Venza which is much better looking inside and out, has power passenger seat, HUD and will most likely be quieter than the RAV4. Hopefully it won’t have the RAV4’s gas tank problem that Toyota acknowledges, but has no solution. Looking forward to seeing the Venza in person.
Very interesting review of an interesting vehicle, Alex. The mainstream midsize crossover category is huge. Two categories really. A group of larger 3 row vehicles that range in length from 195" (Highlander) to 203" (Traverse) and a group of smaller, typically 2 row CUVs that range from about 188" (Santa Fe, Ford Edge, etc) to 192" or so in length*. (Murano, Grand Cherokee, Blazer, etc.) Nearly all manufacturers offer vehicles in each category, the exceptions being Mazda** and until introduction of the new Venza, Toyota. But how various manufacturers have approached designing separate entries in the two sub-categories has differed.
Some brands have based their two offerings on different platforms (e.g. Edge vs Explorer, Santa Fe vs Palisade, Blazer vs Traverse.) Others have simply reduced the size of their 3 row CUV's to provide a two row version. (e.g. Honda Pilot, VW Cross Sport). Toyota has taken a somewhat different approach with the Venza being a stretched version of the RAV4 but with a host of other differences, in terms of both style and substance.
Apparently, the popularity of the RAV4 and Highlander hybrids has convinced Toyota to limit the Venza (nee Harrier) to a hybrid power train. No sunroof but a glass roof that darkens at the flip of a switch a la Mercedes Benz. Pretty trick. Obviously neither the Venza nor the Highlander is more than a very soft off-roader. But Toyota has the aging but still strong selling (and true "SUV") 4Runner for those who consider off-roading a high priority.
In terms of size (exterior and interior) the Venza is at the low end of the smaller midsize CUV category just as the Highlander is at the low end of larger 3 row group but Highlander owners accept an extremely cramped third row and Toyota apparently believes a significant portion of their potential customers would prefer just to eliminate a tiny and cramped third row, altogether. I suspect they're right. The Highlander may well lose some sales to the Venza but from Toyota's point of view that's better than would-be customers defecting to other brands. I suspect the new Venza will be a strong seller for suburbanites who enjoy a close relationship with Costco and as a small family road tripper with excellent fuel economy.
* VW's Cross Sport is an exception being 195.5" long; it's a very large 2 row CUV, half an inch longer than a Highlander. And KIA stands more or less alone in offering a smaller CUV, the Sorento (189") with three rows.
**Mazda has a smaller midsize CUV,, the CX-8, but doesn't offer it in the US. Similar to the Venza, the CX-8 is a stretched version of the compact CX-5.
I agree that the NX will be a hard sell once the Venza goes on sale. I had a loaner NX and thought it was just okay. The UX hybrid looks much better but the trunk is just too small for me. I'll probably wait until next year to see what the new NX looks like but the Venza is really tempting. Unless the new NX is a huge improvement it will be hard to justify the roughly $10K extra for an NX. Too bad the large screen is split all the time but super glad that it's touch. I don't miss the sun/moon roof at all.
I preordered the RAV4 Prime because 68km EV range. The Venza actually looks really nice but no EV.
D D Nissan is not as reliable as Toyota plus there are compromises with charging in winter on road trips. My Tesla goes further than that but I want no more compromises.
Glad 2021 cars are starting to show up
More turn signals in the rear bumper.... are we going backwards from safety?
That's a right purty RAV4 ya got there. The whole beauty of the Venza was it was WIDE.
For me, this Venza checks all the boxes. I am happy to see that it returned. I recall seeing it several years ago and then, it disappeared. I would like to read more about what is powered by the battery beside the brakes. What is the difference between the 2021 and 2022 models? With the current chip issue, I am hopeful that m American-made Trailblazer will be worth more than BB value.
Lovely design but here are some concerns.
1. It's larger than a RAV4 but has less cargo room than on the inside. Three inches shorter than the old Venza. It's billed as being bigger than the RAV4 but smaller than the Highlander. They should increase the wheelbase to give more backseat/ cargo room.
2. Less headroom than a RAV4, and even less with the sunroof. Make it taller.
3. Would prefer a moonroof (opens to the elements) than a sunroof with the glass that frosts on/ off. The frosting would be cooler if it darkened, rather than just frosted. Combine a moonroof with darkened frosting and you have a winner.
4. Lower the infotainment system and integrate it into the dashboard instead of the stuck-on tablet style.
5. No volume knob on the larger 12.3” screen. Huge mistake, just ask Honda.
6. Shiny black plastic is just a fingerprint magnet. Use something else that won't show prints and get easily scratched up.
7. The rear turn signal lights are integrated into the bumper and are **too** low.
8. Offer it as a plug-in hybrid. Supposedly, they were waiting to see how the RAV4 Prime would sell and it's poised to be hugely successful as a PHEV.
9. Don't like the touch-sensitive controls in the dashboard.
10. Climate controls change the temperature 1 degree each time you press, unless you press and hold. Use knobs instead; they're faster.
11. With tax, it would be close to $60K in Canada.
Nice review, Alex. Thank you. We're empty nesters and I keep ending up looking at 3 row crossovers when we really don't need that much room. This new Venza is intriguing.
Unfortunately, a hybrid. If you trade vehicles after 10 years or less you probably will like this vehicle. But for those that want a vehicle they can own for 10+ years or in excess of 150k driving miles get a gasoline powered vehicle. When it is time to replace the battery pack expect to pay $6500+. Should the AWD go out after warranty expect to spend $2500+ to replace this part. Trade in value will also drop faster than a gasoline powered vehicle.
I really wish that Toyota would have just made the venza a two row highlander
Don't we all.
Right Lane Hog I think that they would have still been able to make it a premium vehicle and attracted more buyers
Join the crowd, too bad Toyota doesn't listen anymore.
The previous Venza wasn't a huge hit. This cost them very little as it already existed overseas. If you don't think of it as a Venza 2.0 it's an appealing vehicle.
Don't like the lower turn signals (for looks or safety), the Forte has this too. Hoping this isn't a new trend
I agree with Hanish...physical buttons on the LE is the way to go.
We just pick up our new Toyota Venza XLE in coastal gray metallic . We had an preorder on rav 4 prime but decided to go with the Venza instead. This is our first hybrid vehicle so we hope all works well. Excellent job on all your reviews Alex keep up with the good work. Your review on this vehicle made us change our mind to pick up the Venza
Can you give feedback about your Venza? I am considering a 2022. My main worry is the gas tank-does yours fill to 14.5 gallons?
I like a lot of about the car except the ridiculous turn signal placement, which I think compromises the safety and no physical buttons controls for HVAC and volume control.
So what exactly is the selling point for this vehicle? It’s a tad smaller than the Rav 4, way smaller than the segment it’s being marketed for, underpowered, no traditional moonroof...so why buy? Some previous gen Venda owners aren’t feeling it. Why not just buy the Rav 4 Prime or the hybrid Rav 4?
I was wondering the exact same thing.. it has a little bit of everything but not a single thing that would make you WANT to buy one.
@raknoknak exactly. Like I get it’s luxurious but...so is a Rav 4 Limited lol.
I suspect that the ride will be a bit better and quieter than the RAV4. Also has power front passenger seat. But I get what you're saying, it's mostly about style and doesn't add anything practical.
It's big enough for four adults and then some. The additional space in the RAV4 doesn't make it meaningfully better for most buyers. People with kids or who haul a lot of stuff would be better off with the Highlander. This is for someone who wants a more premium experience without getting the bigger vehicle, and who prefers sleeker styling than the rather truck-like RAV4.
It is longer in size than RAV4. Has more premium interior and styling.
The naming is strange, it should just be called Harrier and be a new vehicle in the lineup.
This is more of a modern hatchback for people who are afraid to buy a wagon.
Seems to me Toyota should have just invested in more NVH padding on the Rav4 and called it a day. With the Rav4 being more spacious, better ground clearance, and already printing money, Toyota put a lot of R&D funds into something I don't see selling very well, (the Venza).
This Venza is called the Harrier in asian market which was Asia’s version of the Rav 4. Don’t know why they decided to export the Harrier to the US.
It already existed as a model elsewhere, so it cost them very little beyond marketing. The SUV market is so big that slicing it as finely as possible does have a logic to it. Some people, including me, don't find the rather truck-like styling of the current RAV4 very appealing. I'd rather have this.
In Dog wha is your problem? You’re out here shutting up everyone who doesn’t like the new Venza. Your opinion is not the only one that matters. Everyone else is entirely to express theirs. Stop being an asshole
@@markmiller3279 can the same be said about the C-HR?
I had high hopes the Venza would split the size difference between the Highlander and RAV. The RAV’s backseat is too small and I don’t need the 3rd row, or cost, of the Highlander.
This is the same reason we didn't buy a new Toyota this time, better Suv's offered by competitors
@@wind7sailor what did you end up purchasing?
I have a 2011 Venza V6 FWD - it has been flawless in every way. The only things I don't care for are the somewhat stiff ride (depending on pavement) and road noise over coarse asphalt. W/only 49K miles in 9 years I plan to keep it for many years to come. It has all the amenities (Pano roof, JBL 14 speaker audio, HID lights, real leather seats, etc) so compared to this new 'Venza' I may pass. No opening roof, no V6 (smooth effortless power) and less room. It may have the latest in electronic features and better MPG but this is really a Rav-4 Hybrid in fancy duds. The new Venza is quite stylish but it would probably cost 45K to get a loaded Limited - to much for a 4-cylinder anything.
Enjoy your genuine Venza, this one is an imposter.
Admittedly I’m a bit jealous of you because your venza is a true large 2 row suv. The new ones really isn’t 😞
At time 8:01 Alex shows a two-way lumbar support control, but on my limited Venza there is a four way control: up, down and to & fro.
Alex agrees that the Venza lumbar support is four way in his later video comparing the Venza with the RAV4: the RAV4 is two-way.
Can't wait to see a Venza prime, pretty soon.
You may be waiting a while. Toyota normally wont comment if there is something in the pipeline, but they actually said they had no plans for a Prime "at this time"
It may be me only but lack of sunroof and physical volume knob kills the deal for me
Hamid Ghazi Honda learned that people still want volume knob, so they bring back volume knob, but Toyota didn’t learn from Honda’s mistake?
The lack of a volume knob is silly. They probably figure most people use the steering wheel controls.
A sunroof is just one more electric accessory that I would rarely use and one more thing that can go wrong (gasket or seal leaks, road noise, malfunction). I would just as soon not have one, but it kind of "comes with the territory" on highest-end trims. On the other hand, volume knobs are a good thing... in fact, more physical controls are a good thing. Even something as high tech as SpaceX's Crew Dragon with it's "glass cockpit" still has manual buttons/switches for key functions.
Super glad Toyota decided to bring back their premium Harrier to the US market. It's been such an excellent option in other foreign markets for years, and our very own Lexus RX was a gussied up Harrier back in the day. Great vehicles! Love this new one with all the smooth lines and unique shapes - it really stands out as a premium alternative to the RAV4 without the price of the Lexus. Very interested to see how the market responds to this new Venza. Personally, I'd have loved it if they'd kept the Harrier name, it just sounds better, but otherwise no complaints from me! Looks like a good overall package.
It does look nice but honestly I’d prefer the old gen venza because it was a lot more practical in cargo and rear seat space.
This new venza has less space than a rav4 🤦♂️
Agreed.
Right Lane Hog speaking of which, how do you feel about the TNGA platform in their core products like the rav4 Camry or Corolla? I’m personally torn. Either I get a more practical interior but give up handling, or get handling, and give up practicality
I think the new Venza is targeted at people that don't check spec lists at all. It's like the Volkswagen CC or Beetle. If you care about lineage or specs, they have obvious siblings that are more practical, but you're buying this model specifically for style.
@@naveenthemachine I'm too tall for the sedans and I barely fit in the Rav4 without a moonroof. To put it in perspective, the last genuine Toyota Yaris (2019) hatch had more headroom than today's RAV4. That's why I call it TNJA - Toyota New Jockey Architecture.
Right Lane Hog well that’s the side effect of automotive journalists criticizing Toyota for being boring looks and handling wise.
But I agree. The old Toyota’s were far more practical. But I’m torn. The new core models like the rav4 Highlander Camry and Corolla have overall impressed me
This channel is the best in its class. 👌🏾
Great review there Alex but I'm just waiting to see the SE and XSE versions of this venza. 😆
I was seriously considering this, but with the recent reveal of the 2021 Nissan Ariya, I'm not sure anymore.
Ariya looks way nicer. I had first Gen Harrier ala rx300 and a Leaf. So i had predecessors of both these new models. The Venza looks nice, but the Ariya is AMAZABALLs. Pricing and size is also similar so they directly compete
The ariya isnt gonna be out for a while though. Late 2021
In Dog some people cross shop wide variety of cars, why calling people dumb? I once cross shop sedan and SUV.
Nissan built quality is much worse than Toyota's to be honest. They're pretty much turning into Japanese Chrysler. I would luck elsewhere.
I know it sounds petty, but the rear turn signals being so low, might be deal killer. Can't believe that passed DOT. Guess we'll just keep our 2012 Lexus RX450h for a while longer.
I'm want a Venza that rings all the bells. This one seems to fall short with each bit more I learn about it. It is great to have a hybrid, but why take away from other options to do so? Patiently waiting to see the end result, but know there isn't any time to change much. Hoping the price won't be a joke.
Thank you, Alex, for all the details! You do an amazing job!
Toyota really should have made a 2 row with a larger interior. I would be all over this if it wasn't smaller than RAV4 inside.
Me too
Yea like Alex I thought this was going to be a two row Highlander. I guess I’m gonna just leave that third row down, if I get the Highlander hybrid.
I’m still holding out for a year in case they bring out a Highlander Prime. However, if they’re having trouble with putting out enough RAV4 Primes then maybe I shouldn’t wait ?
@@AE-ix2iz I would just get the hybrid. IMO, a highlander prime won't even be released, and if it does it will be unlikely to be announced by the end of next year. It will still be really difficult to buy a rav 4 prime next year .
That’s really where Toyota screwed up with this. This is 5 inches longer on the outside, but somehow less practical. I don’t think this is gonna steal many Lexus sales. This has a tough job going up against the already-established RAV4 and NX/RX which are some of the best selling crossovers out there
Great. Parking lot bumps will destroy the turn signals instantaneously. Too low for most people to see. NHTSA need to force a fix.
Nah, it'll be fine. Don't you think they would've thought of that?
RAV4 Hybrid (non-prime) moved to lithium batteries on June 2020 production vehicles and later. It’s even on Toyota’s website for the RAV4 under the specs.
Better ride and lower noise, good if not great room inside, quick but not quickest . . . sounds like the old Venza, but that hybrid is what has my attention! I've never been comfortable in the RAV4, but this seems right up my alley. I will admit that I would like a moonroof . . . unlike most folks, I use it dozens of times a year . . . the new roof is interesting, but I like an opening moonroof!!
I'm watching to see what Toyota does with the Venza over the next year or two . . .
Very sharp. I think what Toyota is doing here is close to what Ford is doing with the Bronco Sport and Escape. One you can get more of streamlined look, the other more sporty.
Being taller, I was hoping for a 2 row Toyota between the newly redesigned and shortened Rav-4 and the Newly redesigned and lengthened Highlanders which offers significantly less legroom than the 2019 model. Again Toyota does not fit our needs and if we are getting a 3 row Suv, there are many more accommodating new vehicles offered by their competitors.
Based on a quick check, the front legroom in the Highlander is 2 inches less than the old model. It's not like it was cut in half. You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
Venza is a very good looking SUV
They should've added a sequential turn signal into the rear lights in addition to the tiny one which should be only there for legal reasons and not as an actual turn signal.
I'm Not Using My Real Name I agree. The Avalon limited and touring offer sequential turn signals front and back
IMO, the reasonable price of 2021 Venza LE trim is around $32,383~$32,825.
Rear turn signal placement is just as bad as it is in the Kia Forte... their low position makes them harder to see and if somebody bumps into you, you'll need new lights. I also don't understand why Toyota is potentially cannibalizing Lexus sales, considering Lexus is already having problems with some models in that regard.
Other than that it looks alright, I guess.
This may attract potential Outback customers too, if they were going to stick to on-road driving and want hybrid.
The only real competitor imho
I own a 2015 OB & am actively looking for a replacement - specifically one with at least as much space and better MPG. Venza looks great from MPG standpoint - major bonus! However, even though its exterior specs are very close to current OB, lack of interior space similar to OB is a major downer for me. Even for relatively short gut at 5' 8". when I sat in the RAV-4 it felt claustrophobic with roof being too low for me. Given the lower roof line of the Venza, I anticipate it will be similar or more claustrophobic. I'll check it out but suspect the lack of interior space will be a major negative when compared to OB. Additionally, the low turn signals also a turnoff. I feel like they are low enough to compromise visibility in heavy traffic. Also the cargo area lift over appears rather high.
I'm holding out until the 2021 Sorento Hybrid makes the scene before making any purchase. Honda CR-V Hybrid is looking pretty temping for this two time Outback owner right now too!
I wanted to love it but the smaller cargo space size, no leather options, and no Moon roof is a no go especially if its on the high price point side. I'm interested to know how much it will end up being since that's the real deciding factor.
when all this pandemic is over, I really want Alex to cover Tokyo motor show
maybe a crowd funding is in order.
It looks like the government has other ideas to keep us scared. If this keeps going... all economy will crash. Then chaos will break out.
So... Around 2024, then?
hiroshima thompson I accept credit and e payments in my yard sales haha, actually discourage cash.
won't be over any time soon buddy.
They should make a version with Toyota's ultra reliable 3.5L V6. Let customers decide which power train they want.
Another good job! I said this before, Alex is my favorite car review guy except his hair and glasses but that's personal
Fantastic video Alex!
I’m not so sure that screen size is such a good idea. It’s almost too distracting. I hope that screen can be dimmed down for night driving.
I wished for new Venza with previous design,
Wished for new Honda Element,
Wished for new mini minivan Mazda 5,
Oh well.
The Honda Element is coming back.
Toyota/Lexus needs to work on the space efficiency in the platform they're using. All of the new Toyotas seem to be getting smaller interiors.
So True, We wanted another Toyota, but this generation' s cramped and legroom shrunk designs has killed it for us. Being taller, we had to switch to better designed and more accommodating new vehicle offered by a competitor.
This looks like the 2010 RX
Btw, I hope Toyota put the prime on all its hybrid, without the jacked up look on the RAV4 prime
Alex, Did you say even LESS leg room, less headroom and less cargo space than a RAV4? #TNJA - Toyota New Jockey Architecture is becoming more confounding with each new model. I can hardly wait for the next video when you tell us this Venza costs as much as a Highlander ;-) On a positive note, I commend TMC for going all-Hybrid with another new model.
Right Lane Hog some of Toyota’s other TNGA vehicles are good. The rav4 corolla Avalon and Camry have all overall impressed me
@@naveenthemachine For all their positive attributes, the interiors are too cramped compared to earlier generations.
Right Lane Hog true. But surprisingly the Corolla and Camry and Avalon didn’t feel cramped for me. Taller folks yes it would.
My ideal cars I’d own are a Toyota on the TNGA platform and one Toyota cuv or suv on the previous gen platform
Was looking forward to the Venza as I was looking for a two-row Highlander. We have a 2019 Santa Fe, and when doing our comparison shopping, found the RAV4 to be a tad narrow for our taste, whereas the SF is roughly 3.5” wider, which is noticeable for us. It would seem Toyota doesn’t have what we want this time around; since we enjoy our SF, I guess we will wait to replace our aging sedan until we see the new ‘21 Santa Fe.
FYI the Limited trim has 4-way adjustable lumbar support.
The redesigned 2022 Lexus NX also rides on the Rav4 platform, so what does this Venza mean for the NX?
This means the NX may get more sporty in its drive, and go in the direction of the Acura RDX
The NX may go after a younger, more affluent buyer, where the Venza goes after the traditional "empty nester"
Glad Toyota offers this, but keep in mind you can get an AWD Rav4 Hybrid starting for less than $30k.
This will start around $35k, so you better be a bells-and-whistles buyer
It's biggest competition will be the Rav4 Hybrid. If the Rav4 is too unrefined for you, get the Venza
Thank you Alex for bringing this comprehensive review! It seems you’ll create a center console index based on ‘1 gallon milk’ number 🙋🏻♂️
Great preview. Toyota gave up some real world practically in terms of size/space but they have gained much more in terms of style over the competition. Although it still remains a CUV with a traditional layout they have done a great job with ditching the cookie cutter design. As most people won’t go off-road like marketing suggests, nor will they have it crammed full of camping gear, I forsee this as a runaway success.
I love it but I've had 2013 venza since 2016 and always wanted a new one
Wish it had more of the current Camry SE look up front than the LE.
Kuya Millefune maybe more like the XSE looks up front
Kuya Millefune Since the vehicle is more focused on luxury than sport, it makes sense Toyota went more with the L look than the S look. I don’t expect any S versions.
Looks like a nice vehicle, hopefully Toyota will come out with a Prime Model in the future.
Hi Kirk, I would like to see Front Seat comfort compilation,
Have the engineers that designed the rear turn signals ever driven in the snow? Kia and Hyundai have had the signals on the bumpers on the rear for years. They are impossible to see when following a vehicle in the snow. What a poor design.
I have a 2015 Venza and love it. Usually the newer versions improve on the previous model but I have to say that I am disappointed.
Spot on Sean! I was thinking the same thing. Also, that location makes them vulnerable to damage.
@@Kevin19700 talk about vulnerable to damage, their trunk door is part of the bumper lol. One bump at the parking street and instead of a minor cosmetic issue, you'll end up with a trunk door that doesnt close correctly instead. TOYOTA engineers at its finest.. -. -
I agree I like my 2015 better than this
If you can't see the turn signals of the car in front of you , on the bumper or elsewhere, then you're too close to the car. Especially in snow. They're on the bumper so that if the tailgate is open and the flashers are on, you can still see them.
I can’t wrap my head around why the Venza exists. If I wanted a luxury RAV4, I’d rather have a Lexus. I think it needed to be a 2-row that had more room than the RAV, probably a little less than the Highlander; but the Highlander is small for its class, the same size could’ve still worked.
I feel like you got a new camera. Looks fantastic. Either you got a new camera or my settings just got upgraded. Good for me! LOL
...very nice..driveway..thanks again Alex...
Rear turning signals at the bottom should be forbidden.
Just seem like this vehicle was shoehorned into the lineup. I used to want the original venza. Seem right size and unique (guess it was a wagon with a nice style). Think they should of made it a wagon to make it unique. Just seem like a luxury trim of the rav 4 without possibility of moon/sunroof (which you can get in a rav 4), without leather, and lack of details that illustrates the difference.
The outside styling is very appealing to me but thought it'll be closer to passport/atlas as size. Personal it might come down to price. Think rav4 hybrid can hit 40,000+. Figure lexus compact SUV will be 45000. So practically I go for the rav4 limit. If I want prestige I'll go for the lexus. Which leaves the venza in no man's land.
Agreed.
They should have made it a crossover wagon like the Subaru Outback. Despite being a wagon it still manages to sell well
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv In other words, they should have made it a Venza.
They already have the vehicle for other markets, so the question is whether it's worth importing it. I'm sure they figure the sleeker styling will appeal to some people who find the RAV4 boxy and truck-like, inside and out. Given the choice, I'd take the Venza for that reason. The minor advantages of the RAV4 are things I don't care about.
@@markmiller3279 My biggest reservation about the RAV4 so far has been the lack of true upper-end interior. What's disappointing about this Venza is that it's supposed to be a more luxurious version of the RAV4, but it's still falling short of the Avalon or Highlander's Limited trim level, especially the seats. I would have been perfectly happy with a RAV4 with that level of interior.
Great review, nice vehicle. Seems impressive.
it looks great but they have shrunk the space. When it comes time to replace my 2012 Venza I will have to look at the Highlander
Considering the highlander too
Per CR, the Highlander city mpg is 14. The Venza city mpg is 40.
We actually went down to buy a Highlander. None available. One Venza, a limited, came in that morning. It was that or nothing. We bought it. It drives like a big car. I would like a friendlier infotainment setup, no other complaints. I’ve never had a hybrid before. A nice change. The 12.3 inch screen is nice. All Venza’s are AWD.
Nice review! I like your shirt too!
Perfect vehicle for ladies who lunch.
Not convinced that hybrid only is a good decision.
We drove a gen 1 Venza and were not impressed. It was strangely styled inside, had a marginal driving experience and had terrible gas mileage. We’ve owned quite a few Toyotas over the years (Corona, Corolla, Corolla, Corolla, Camry, Camry, Prius), but are unlikely to buy another at this point. Not that we don’t like the quality and reliability, but their cars no longer meet our needs.
*Mazda:* Tries premium with a non-luxury badge. Falls on their face.
*Hyundai:* Tries premium with a non-luxury badge. Falls on their face.
*Toyota:* "I have an idea..."
This is a mistake, from derating the tow to the smaller cargo space this is an inferior vehicle. The styling is great, but I think it'll do about as well as Mazda and Hyundai ~5 years ago did. It costs them almost nothing since it's already sold in Japan, but they should at a minimum have given it towing capability.
the rear turn signal is confusing to me. I wonder if it impacts to insurance rate over long run
Toyota made a mistake by calling it Venza. What is the problem for Toyota to offer a 5 seat Harrier with slightly higher suspension and some rugged items?
It is a Harrier - a more luxurious RAV4, that is a hatchback that is a touch taller than 20 y.o. cars. This is not a competition or a replacement for RAV4. This is a motorway or a city vehicle. It is much more comfortable and quieter than RAV4.
The target customers are different.
It does make sense for a lot of people and it will sell well worldwide.
Turn signals should be up high, not on the bumper.
Toyota gets it.
They know there's a market for luxury that also DOESN'T want a pretentious badge.
.... Avalon has sold well for 25 years with this formula with little advertising.
This isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but I can see what they're doing here.
Don Swier I see that too but I have to say the practicality disappointed me. Quite a bit of Less cargo space than the rav4, and less interior room too.
The old venza was more practical than this to be honest. I can see what Toyota is trying to do in stylizing their new products to shed the boring label automotive journalists have criticized of Toyota. Admittedly some of their products like the Camry and Avalon have all attracted me.
But personally I’m torn as to whether I would rather have practically boring or impractically sexy
Amber: good! Size: definitely very small.
If the headroom is less than the gen 5 Rav 4 I will not fit at 6’2”.
me too, I was hoping but no way Toyota, shrunk and too cramped for our needs. The real killer was that the passenger seat could NOT be adjusted even manually to the same depth and distance from the pedals and roof that the driver's seat could be adjusted. It should work for smaller families, but that is why we are not getting the Rav-4 hybrid or prime
That’s because it’s was designed for the Japanese domestic market not for fat Americans
@@needleontherecord Or taller Americans either, if it works for someone they will compare it with the competition and maybe buy it. Head and legroom are super important to me being taller, but these are qualities that Toyota is moving away from to create more cramped, smaller and more fuel efficient models; nothing wrong with that, but being previous Toyota owners we were hoping for better and had to look elsewhere
Wow why is the front grey part bumper look straight up hard plastic....come on give us a metal grill or do something other than a piece of plastic....
No car has a metal grille nowadays.
Metal Grille? It's toyota my friend.
Turn signals are too low and small. It seems Hybrids are the only option now. That’s too bad. I don’t want the increased maintenance expense of replacing electric motors
Previous Venza was a gem. Loved the exterior design. This one is BELOW average. The Interior is beautiful, contrary from the previous model.
I don't like it. Smaller than the RAV4, but weighs 150 lbs more? I still prefer our 2014 Venza (which my wife drives). (For me, I like my 2020 RAV4 Hybrid)...
Exactly.
I'll wait for the redesigned Lexus NX.
Ugh! Divorced turn signals in rear. What are they thinking?!
Hoping they launch the Venza Prime soon!
Toyota/Lexus produce excellent products but i sometimes wonder about the people hired to design the snouts of their vehicles? Hopefully this front end will look better in person.
So kind of like what Avalon is to a Camry, except it a shorter.
not every component of the harrier was carried over to the venza. its missing a pair of foglamps (underneath the chrome lining at the bottom of the grill) and adjustable volume knobs for the mid trim spec. why is toyota preserving all the good stuff for japan only?
Horizontal plastic slats in front grill remind me of Lexus low end grills - large plastic area looks cheap like those old Mazda smile grills - they should offer some type of metal mesh for higher spec grades.
I was hoping it would be the Avalon version of the Venza, but it's clear that it falls far short of those features.
It makes me wonder if Toyota will rebadge this as a Lexus with more premium features that are lacking and make it a non-starter for me.
I have to say I have seen other reviews of this and you are incorrect. The Venza does have a Moonroof option on certain models.
Why do these reviews never mention seat height adjustment? This is perhaps the most important feature. It's the first feature I consider when buying a new vehicle. I want to make sure I have plenty of site height over the steering wheel and these reviews never mention it. Sad.
The thing about this SUV that I see everyone in the comment section and even Toyota USA themselves not getting is: This vehicle is not a 2-row Highlander variant, or an alternative to RAV4. This vehicle - or more correctly, the Harrier - when was sold in Japan, was more of a budget "luxury-esque" vehicle in competition to the Mazda CX-5 also sold in Japan. So in my personal opinion, the Venza should've been marketed as a competition to said CX-5 and entry-level luxury SUVs like the Acura RDX, Lincoln Nautilus etc.
But still comparing the Venza/Harrier to established luxury brands like Acura is quite an odd thoughts. But since Mazda is turning it's brand into a "luxury" brand itself, I see no reasons not to try and compare the Venza/Harrier to the ranks of RDX and Nautilus...
Alex, I like the size chart. Can you please put a length in inches for the venza as in Venza 182 in (etc) in the blue slash bar. No need to provide lengths for the other comparison models.
And it is made in Japan, like most Lexus....I am in on this one!!!!
The RX has been made in Canada for a decade.
Actually, many RAV4 hybrids are as well, ours was.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide To whom are you replying?
The blue Rav4 hybrid he's had for a few months was built in Japan. I guess only some northern states get the Woodstock built Rav4 hybrid.