ACA/ASC Cyclone Tornado Siren

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024
  • Another Cyclone on the other side of town. Located on Plum Creek Dr. in NW Amarillo, TX. KDK wanted me to video another Cyclone as they are his favorites. This 50 hp monster really packs a punch. I was a bit to close. My ears were ringing for a long time afterwards. If you like really long wind downs, then this one's for you. It goes on and on. Enjoy. *** As of November 2021 this siren is no longer there.

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  • @kraiggelmer9773
    @kraiggelmer9773 4 года назад +34

    I remember a few years back when i actually had the chance to go to the ASC Factory in Milwaukee, honestly to see a cyclone up close is crazy! That actually let me spin one up in the test chamber, they really do have the best tours there and the guy who toured my dad and i through was very nice about it and i still have the lunch bag that he gave us with alot of other different trinkets and informationals in it, definitely was an amazing tour!

    • @samgreak352
      @samgreak352 3 года назад +5

      I really wanna go

    • @ThisChannelIsNoLongerActiv-i7m
      @ThisChannelIsNoLongerActiv-i7m Год назад +1

      Do you know if asc lets people buy sirens from their graveyard?

    • @kraiggelmer9773
      @kraiggelmer9773 Год назад +1

      @@ThisChannelIsNoLongerActiv-i7m not that I know of, you would probably have to get in contact with them

    • @atsf47legit
      @atsf47legit 6 месяцев назад

      That's really neat. Were you able to see the hurricane that's stored there as well?

  • @FLINTLOCK725
    @FLINTLOCK725 2 года назад +7

    P-50's brother:hello friend
    P-50:hello
    Cyclone:we have the same sounds
    P-50:yes

    • @Elyn-co2gr
      @Elyn-co2gr Месяц назад

      Or aca soundmaster 115, superbanshee too

    • @AleronRattan
      @AleronRattan 25 дней назад

      ​@@Elyn-co2gr ACA SoundMaster is not a thing

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  15 лет назад +9

    We are too. It is amazing how much sound comes out of such a small machine. And how each different model makes it own tones/sounds. The Cyclone at night with a tornado warning will make your hair stand on end!

  • @weatherexpert2
    @weatherexpert2 16 лет назад +1

    EXCELLENT VIDEO. Wonderfully CLEAR Audio! WOW! Thanks A LOT for Posting This! One of the best that I've seen on here in a long time, and I've been searching for quite awhile. Thanks Again!

  • @baul104
    @baul104 7 лет назад +1

    ACA/ASC Cyclone Tornado Siren sounds just like the Sentry Siren 40V2T, don't you think?

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +3

    These are KDK's favorite too! There are several of them here. The ASC website still shows they make them. The sound really travels along way. Thanks!

  • @christophercarey3232
    @christophercarey3232 6 лет назад +3

    For all the Tornado Siren Madness fans, this is Cyclone the Conehead.

  • @SevereTstormFan
    @SevereTstormFan 16 лет назад +2

    The wind down is cool it sounds just like a prop airplane.

  • @kanazo
    @kanazo 16 лет назад +1

    My favorite siren! Cyclone really have some nostalgic qualities to it...

  • @PGMEagle
    @PGMEagle 16 лет назад +1

    These sirens do pack a punch. I live within 10 miles of the Three Mile Island EPZ. And one the fire companys uses it for fire calls. It sounds 4 times about 35 sec cycles. And I live about 8 miles from it but can still here it loud and clear at 1:30 am.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад

    From what I understand, they use the same motor and rotor. Just an omni-directional version that isn't as loud. The T-135 has a vertical mount and projector with rotator and the Cyclone is horizontal that doesn't rotate. I looked at the ASC website and they still make them.

  • @Busdude97
    @Busdude97 14 лет назад

    Nice ! That thing takes a long time for the choper to slow down. Near the end of the vid when the choper is slowing down it sounds like a detroit diesel 8v92 reving really high! Nice siren yall!

  • @hunterneitzel3012
    @hunterneitzel3012 4 года назад +1

    We used to have an aca p50 around 2 blocks from our house, and damn was that thing loud

  • @Bonemeal2
    @Bonemeal2 14 лет назад

    @kdksiren I did NOT know that! Knowledge is POWER! Interesting. They took the rotating chopper from the Tempest/Penetrator, and made it into an omni! Quite resourceful.
    Now, I see the connection when you mentioned the 50hp motor. I had been thinking, "gee, that's the same horsepower of a Tempest-135/Penetrator-50

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    Thanks. KDK wants another SD-10. There is also a Modulator we may shoot too.

  • @JJP_SirenProductions06
    @JJP_SirenProductions06 3 года назад +2

    This siren sounds exactly like a P-50.

    • @johndeerefan725
      @johndeerefan725 2 года назад

      Because it has the same chopper as the P-50, the P-50 is basically the rotating version of the Cyclone.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    This is located in a residential area on one side and a large medical complex and misc. doctors' offices around. I bet the patients get a joy from hearing this thing blast. Thanks.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the nice words! No, they do not do attack. We have asked the EMS director and he said he would not do that. We were going to vid another last friday but it was the last day of school and to many activities. There are some Federal Modulators here too, so for something different, will probably do that one next time even though they are kinda boring. Thanks! KDK

  • @framptone25
    @framptone25 12 лет назад

    I live here in Amarillo and sometimes I can hear them and sometimes I can't. Man, I love way they sound!!!

  • @MarcusDiazWX
    @MarcusDiazWX 14 лет назад +1

    Im from Hereford, just down the highway. The entire city has these sirens. Man, hearing these things all over town makes your heart skip. BTW, I'm a tornado chaser from Amarillo. They tested them today, and made me wish April was here to chase again!

    • @jo3k1ck455
      @jo3k1ck455 5 месяцев назад

      Hey! Very late reply here but I'm from Hereford too! Kinda nostalgic to listen to these sirens. We lived about 5 miles out of town and when I was growing up there was a tornado warning and I remember being able to hear the sirens among the sounds of thunder that night.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  11 лет назад +1

    This type has a 50 hp motor and its heavy duty. Probably would run for a long time with no damage. One stuck on in Hereford when we lived there years ago. It was on for over an hour and didn't seem to hurt it. Generally they don't run them for more that 5 minutes at a time and then allowed to cool off before re-activation.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  11 лет назад

    They both use the same motor/ Chopper/ Stator assembly. The Cyclone is mounted verticle and is omni-directional. The P-50 is mounted verticle and rotates. It uses the horn assembly to project the sound and is thus somewhat louder.

  • @Bonemeal2
    @Bonemeal2 14 лет назад +7

    Incredible wind-down time. What's really interesting is how much it sounds like the Tempest-135.
    @kdksiren
    BTW, with all the sirens you mentioned having around there, any chance you might have a Sparton?

    • @luigikoopa8771
      @luigikoopa8771 2 года назад +2

      The chopper is the same in the T-135/P-50

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the info. We haven't seen it yet but will go for a road trip and search it out.

  • @mariasadiq3907
    @mariasadiq3907 2 года назад +1

    sounds like P-50 siren 🚨

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    According to the ASC website they still make them, or at least sell them. I think most places are opting for sirens like the T-135 and the FS 2001's as they have a battery backup. To bad batteries can't power these. They last forever. There is no beating the distinctive sound that Cyclone's and the old P-50's/ T-135 produce. Thanks for the comments!

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  15 лет назад +1

    From what we understand, yes. The difference is that the chopper sets horizontal on the Cyclone and Vertical on the P-50.

  • @Galaxy-ke9mf
    @Galaxy-ke9mf 4 года назад

    I have been interested in sirens for a long time and I had never heard of a ACA cyclone before. Plus it sounds like a P-50.

    • @audiodood
      @audiodood 4 года назад

      The p50 is basically a rotating version of this

  • @FelixTheHouseFreak
    @FelixTheHouseFreak 15 лет назад

    You know i never knew there were people interested in these things. I too have always been curious about tornado sirens.
    Here in Chicago there is one that gets sounded every first tuesday of the month at 10 am.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    The EMS director says that there is not a P-50/ T135 on the system. We have seen the photo on the siren archive site too. The director says it is mis-labled on the location. I wish there was one as we have have never seen one in person. They test them here on the last friday of the month at 11:30 AM for 90 seconds. KDK (my 10 year old son) got to turn them all on last year. There are 88 of them according to the EMS director.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  12 лет назад

    They actually do use the same rotor/ chopper set up. The cyclone is mounted horizontal and the P-50 is verticle. They use the same motor too.

  • @carexpertandy
    @carexpertandy 16 лет назад +1

    No, these are not louder than thunderbolts. These are 125 dBc, while thunderbolts are 125-128 dBc.

  • @DoomsDaysLIVE
    @DoomsDaysLIVE 13 лет назад

    the ones here in fort smith always go off and they are bone chilling!

  • @FBHSswimmer2006
    @FBHSswimmer2006 16 лет назад +2

    your right....it does sound like a prop plane.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад

    Yes, it is dual tone. It sounds the same as the old P-50's/ T-135's. Just not as loud as the P-50's. They both use the same rotor or chopper set up. I am not sure of the port configuration.

  • @UmbreWolf
    @UmbreWolf 12 лет назад

    Nope its exactly the same, I talked to another person around here. According to them, he said that a P50 is no more then a cyclone mounted verticle on a rotator with a fiberglass horn in place instead of the top cone. The motor and chopper assembly are identical. Thanks for the info though :)

  • @dilloncarpenter
    @dilloncarpenter 16 лет назад +2

    the wind down kinda sounds like an airplane goig by

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  15 лет назад

    It is in NW Amarillo north of the Hospitals near Wal-Mart on Tascosa Rd.

  • @michelinman8592
    @michelinman8592 13 лет назад

    @kdksiren Most if not all of Oakland County, MI uses FS 2001's. The sirens are tested the first Saturday of every month at 1 PM E.S.T.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    WOW! Thanks for the kind words! There are several of these bad boys in the city. If you like a mix, go to our SD-10 video and you can hear two of them along with the SD-10 and a Federal Signal 2001. Thanks again! KDK (dad)

  • @UmbreWolf
    @UmbreWolf 12 лет назад

    You may be right but I can't confirm about the chopper. But the cyclone does infact use the same 50hp motor as the Penetrator 50. It would not surprise me if they did such as it was manufactured by the same corperation ACA (Now ASC)

  • @hen7713
    @hen7713 16 лет назад +1

    Yeah it does, It sounds like the T-135 (No battery backup) version which is 8/12 port and 50 hp like the cyclone.

  • @birdluver184858
    @birdluver184858 13 лет назад

    soon in Okland County MI, we are having a tornado test all day after this spring break on monday

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  13 лет назад

    @camommyofthree We had relatives from AZ come to stay with us a few years ago. The city did the monthly test and scared them to death with that. We were all gone and they were at our house alone. They thought a tornado was coming. Sunny day, no wind, just a test, but did we ever hear about that. Yes, at night with lightning, thunder, hail and then the sirens, well that is attention getter. Happens all to much in this part of the country as well. Thanks for the note!

  • @HardDriveGuruOfficial
    @HardDriveGuruOfficial 14 лет назад

    Has anybody else noticed that all the ACA sirens sound very similar? Although, there's most likely a very obvious reason for that - I'm just slow today. xD
    Man, this siren has a fantastic wind-down!

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    Thanks! This was on the new camera. The wind was blowing (as usual) so there is some rocking of the camera. These do sound awsome though. I was too close! Wish there was a T-135 around here.

    • @hunterneitzel3012
      @hunterneitzel3012 3 года назад

      There used to be a p50/t-135 by our house, but it was replaced by a t-128 in 2015

  • @weasel2htm
    @weasel2htm 15 лет назад

    My elementary school had a 2T22 across the street from the playground, when I say across the street, I mean a small side street. They always tested that thing during recess. LOUD!!!!!
    They have replaced all the vintage sirens with 2001s I don't know if that siren location was reused or not, I hope not.

  • @rabbott98
    @rabbott98 13 лет назад

    Epic wind up. cool wind down.

  • @MarcusDiazWX
    @MarcusDiazWX 14 лет назад

    @kdksiren I've lived there from 1992 till the end of last year. These sirens actually sound much more ominous from a slight distance. I'm still waiting on getting that perfect video of a tornado next to a town with the sirens blaring in the distance (of course not actually hitting the town)

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  14 лет назад

    Thanks! There's so many different ones around here. We are checking out surrounding towns around when time permits so we can post different ones.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  14 лет назад

    @Debo318 We were in Dimmitt last summer when a storm was approaching. They finally activated the sirens while we were filming (see video). It was really cool. I would like to be in or near Hereford when a twister was approaching and they activate those sirens. That would be a great video. BUT, I don't want any damage or injuries!!! We moved from there in '92. I was born and raised there. Graduated from HHS in (cough) '79. Yes I am getting old.

  • @TommyBNSF
    @TommyBNSF 12 лет назад

    Looks like a tall birdhouse, but the birds will be scared to DEATH if it turns on.

  • @ThisChannelIsNoLongerActiv-i7m

    I remember when I was 8 I heard the test one of Amarillo’s cyclones at a family dollar

  • @2662TempleX
    @2662TempleX 6 лет назад

    Wow! its been 10 years later since your last shot. :)

  • @MarcusToroian
    @MarcusToroian 15 лет назад +2

    You know that the P50/T-135 is this siren mounted horizontally inside a massive projector, right?

  • @jjjjentges
    @jjjjentges 12 лет назад

    Can't beat the sound of a good old Cyclone

  • @bkriegel95
    @bkriegel95 10 лет назад +16

    Sounds just like a P-50

    • @rachelmuniz7645
      @rachelmuniz7645 7 лет назад

      i know is that cool

    • @Imabluewall5
      @Imabluewall5 6 лет назад +2

      Cyclone Siren use:
      High Voltage Motor 5000 RPM Penetrator50

    • @nesmanmain0001
      @nesmanmain0001 6 лет назад

      bkriegel95 justices

    • @rtralph1269
      @rtralph1269 4 года назад

      Just because they have the same thing

    • @budgie508
      @budgie508 4 года назад

      cause its made out of a p50

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    This one doesn't have as much of a lead in time. I wasn't familiar with Window's Movie Maker and how to edit the timeline. There is a FS 2001 not to far from this one, but I was to close that it could not be heard. Thanks

  • @Hörmann_F71
    @Hörmann_F71 Год назад +1

    Why it sounds like a ACA P-50???

  • @juliak42549
    @juliak42549 14 лет назад

    you uploaded this on my bday
    i turned 9
    now im 11

    • @Nirvoxide
      @Nirvoxide 5 лет назад

      Julia Miranda 20 Now?

  • @charlycenteno1360
    @charlycenteno1360 4 года назад

    i love the sound of it and i heard the same sound at Camel back beach PA.

  • @IndyTheGreat
    @IndyTheGreat 13 лет назад

    @neosho53059 Well the Cyclone is not in production anymore, but the Sentry 40v2t is louder (more than twice as loud at 100 feet as the Cyclone), uses less power and has the option for battery backup.

  • @ThunderTrain2930
    @ThunderTrain2930 6 лет назад +1

    This has more HP than my Honda Trx125

  • @sirenfan97
    @sirenfan97 13 лет назад

    Man, I wish we had these bad boys here in Wichita!!!

  • @BellyJae
    @BellyJae 16 лет назад +1

    8/12 port config :)
    Love all your clips, can't wait to see your next clips!!!!

  • @tsiren918sirensofoklahomas4
    @tsiren918sirensofoklahomas4 8 лет назад +12

    It looks like a volcano

    • @rtralph1269
      @rtralph1269 4 года назад +1

      Design looks funny huh?

    • @619xnomo
      @619xnomo 4 года назад +1

      No fucking shit lol!

    • @CS8sirenwastaken
      @CS8sirenwastaken 3 года назад +1

      No that’s. A 120

    • @hollydeleon6702
      @hollydeleon6702 3 месяца назад

      @@CS8sirenwastaken lol no its a 125

    • @CS8sirenwastaken
      @CS8sirenwastaken 3 месяца назад

      @@hollydeleon6702 I know, I meant the cyclone 120 looked more like a volcano

  • @terryhardy4725
    @terryhardy4725 2 года назад

    They're already putting up the Tornado Sirens in Lubbock Texas KDK

    • @kdksiren
      @kdksiren  2 года назад

      Yes. Last I heard was that they had 4 more to go. Don't know when they will be testing.

  • @jonathanharrell7703
    @jonathanharrell7703 7 месяцев назад

    The loudest siren ever!

  • @davidca96
    @davidca96 5 лет назад

    wish we had beasts like this where I live in Michigan, ours are still the old type from the 70's they arent nearly as loud.

  • @sentry40V2T
    @sentry40V2T 14 лет назад

    KDK has a great taste in sirens!!!

  • @JP3_C6Z
    @JP3_C6Z 2 года назад

    Long Beach Island, NJ had a bunch of these for a long time. In the past few years they’ve been replaced with either T-128’s or 135’s

    • @BRISTOLFORCE2009
      @BRISTOLFORCE2009 6 месяцев назад

      They were replaced with t128’s, also the one in my profile happens to be the one from LBI

  • @firepipernickb
    @firepipernickb 14 лет назад

    love the video and the siren

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  13 лет назад

    @Thewoog34 The ASC website still shows them but a very reliable source tells us that they are no longer in production. There are parts available and perhaps special orders only. To bad too! This is really a very good and powerful siren. Everyone wants battery backup and with a 50 hp motor and 480 V not to mention huge power draw, they are going going away. But the ones left should be around for a very long time.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  14 лет назад

    @Bonemeal2 The T135 (P-50) is really the same as a Cyclone. You probably know this but the chopper is set horizontal on the Cyclone and is vertical on the P-50. The P-50 is louder due to the horn or can that projects the sound. They sound awesome!! As for a Sparton, no we don't have one around here. Thanks!!!

  • @HarvestmanMan
    @HarvestmanMan 12 лет назад

    I think it uses the same stator and rotor, if not the same motor.

  • @sirenfan97
    @sirenfan97 13 лет назад +6

    Long Live the Cyclone!!!

    • @agoushy74
      @agoushy74 7 лет назад +1

      sirenfan97 yes yes yes long with the cyclone! It's Jack to see if he's really really really awesome sirens getting replaced. In New Jersey we still have about three 125s close to me. I can hear them for a test at my house. We do not have tornado sirens, they are just hurricane sirens and civil defense sirens. If you look at the original video from the 80s when these first came out they were advertising them on the video and mentioned that New Jersey and 3 mile Island in Pennsylvania bought some. However, pretty much all of the cyclones Band cheese and P 50s on three-mile Island were replaced with T1 21's and T128's. that was only because they could not get the sirens to have battery back up. That's a stupid reason to get rid of such great sirens. There are still a few around on three-mile Island, but most are replaced. If you are confused I do not live in three-mile Island I live in New Jersey like I said before were thereare about three cyclone 125's by my house.

    • @agoushy74
      @agoushy74 7 лет назад

      When I said it's Jack, it auto corrected me I meant it really sucks.

    • @agoushy74
      @agoushy74 7 лет назад

      And it said Band cheese, it also auto corrected me again I meant Banshee's!

    • @arlene1727
      @arlene1727 4 года назад

      ASC is still makeing the cyclone 😐

    • @alexortiz7603
      @alexortiz7603 4 года назад

      But a bucket on it and it's a P50

  • @terryhardy4725
    @terryhardy4725 3 года назад

    KDK it is this out by Northwest Texas Hospital and Texas Tech and BSA and Amarillo College West Campus and Texas MHMR State Center because I was born at Northwest on 5-1-1986 at 5:15am

  • @thinhvle
    @thinhvle 7 лет назад

    it's the loudest omni directional rotating siren!

    • @kdksiren
      @kdksiren  7 лет назад

      Actually it's a non- rotating siren. Thanks for the comment!

    • @notanuser-sorry
      @notanuser-sorry 2 года назад +1

      @@kdksiren It's just an ACA P50 without the bucket, and placed down flat

  • @FBHSswimmer2006
    @FBHSswimmer2006 16 лет назад +1

    very nice vid. i was wondering, is the cyclones a dual tone siren? it looks like it is but i could be wrong.

  • @TheJakeman789
    @TheJakeman789 3 года назад

    Yea ASC is way better then other siren companies. Especially the older sirens.

  • @MrEd30
    @MrEd30 16 лет назад +3

    Nice KD! Great job! Do they test these in "attack" mode? If so, can you record it? Keep adding more of these non the less!

  • @theartoftimelapsemore424
    @theartoftimelapsemore424 Год назад

    Didn't Cyclones use to be part of the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant siren system, alongside P-15s?

    • @kdksiren
      @kdksiren  Год назад

      Yes, at least that's what I have heard.

  • @nimeris.
    @nimeris. 7 лет назад +3

    what happens when.....
    you put this on FULL volume with open windows so neighbors can hear it and be scared...but...
    i don't think it's loud enough lmao

    • @Keaton0801
      @Keaton0801 7 лет назад

      XxLucy ChanxX would not work where I am, all we got are stinking 2001’s here.

  • @LNERMallard
    @LNERMallard 15 лет назад +1

    Do p-50s utilize the same chopper as this?

  • @neosho53059
    @neosho53059 14 лет назад

    really wow.... i thought the SD-10 and the cyclone where the same....

  • @SuburbanStorms
    @SuburbanStorms 4 года назад

    This was just after my birthday

  • @sonconmas
    @sonconmas 13 лет назад

    Looks like a giant Photocell!

  • @sgtsn1per
    @sgtsn1per 15 лет назад

    when it starts sounds like a wicked start to a rock or techno song

  • @crazywarriorman
    @crazywarriorman 14 лет назад

    @ALLERTORLOVER69 That's because the P-50/T-135 AC is a rotating version of the Cyclone.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  16 лет назад +1

    Probably made your ears hurt alot too! They are really loud up close! I have been under one too when it went off.

  • @UmbreWolf
    @UmbreWolf 12 лет назад

    I know they use the same motor but I wasnt sure about the stator. So you could therorectily replace the chopper on a p-50 using the one from a cyclone? I ask this because thats what sparked the question. A friend in TN wants to know if he could salvage the chopper for a p-50 from cyclone that has a blown phase on it. would save him a lot of money by what he told me.

  • @llmj546879
    @llmj546879 15 лет назад

    I am so fascinated by these things, unfortunately i live in saskatchewan, so i don't get to see/hear any of them

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  14 лет назад

    @ALLERTORLOVER69 The ASC website still has them posted but a pretty reliable source tells us that they are no longer available. To bad as these are really great sirens!!

  • @carexpertandy
    @carexpertandy 15 лет назад

    Cyclones are rated at 125 decibles at 100 feet, while P-50s are rated at 135 decibles at 100 feet. They both use 50 hp motors.

  • @bunchalinks
    @bunchalinks 13 лет назад

    i live about 35 miles down the road from amarillo in hereford. we have that same one, i think you have a video of one on here.

  • @Art3go
    @Art3go 14 лет назад

    THATS MY FAVERATE SIREN, as you probibly know.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  14 лет назад

    @Debo318 I too am from Hereford (KDKsiren Dad). Thanks for the note. We have a video on our page of the Hereford sirens. Yes, these things are awesome!! They installed them in '81. We got a video of a new 2001-130 yesterday (9-24-10) and plan on putting it on YT very soon. We like to go chasing too. Have to ask, when did you live in Cow Town? KDK (my son) got to turn on the AMA sirens in August at the EOC center. This is the second time he did that. Thanks again! KDK dad. Whitfaces!!

  • @the_real_drwhoroblox1935
    @the_real_drwhoroblox1935 5 лет назад

    I was not the one who noticed that aca and sterling got rebranded, they actually go with a different name, ASC and Sentry.

  • @kdksiren
    @kdksiren  11 лет назад

    I think the Sentry 40V is but this is probably a very close second.

  • @sbcool1027
    @sbcool1027 3 года назад

    God this sounds so much like an ACA P50/ASC T135