people tend to forget we the fans hyped him up and he came from the bottom in the ghetto..lebrons tougher than we think....you know whose not kobe mj curry thompson...all of them are spoiled brats look at how they act...they all had dads who were famous and in the nba...lebron didnt....look at how they act as men and leaders...lebrons the best of them
man I love LeBron. I am from Cleveland and I can honestly say that I miss him and I hope he comes back to play with the Cavs soon! :) Home games havent been the same without him, although Kyrie is bringing that energy back. But LeBron is the best to ever play in Ctown. You have def grown into a fine, mature young man Bron. I love that you never forget where u came from and that u always give back to your hometown. Such a great role model! Keep it up!!!!
U're the best Lebron. U make amazing thing with a ball, and also with people like we can see in this video. U're such a model for many of us. Keep inspire people. Thaaanks a lot!
I'm almost certain West was a combo guard who mostly played the point. There is some confusion over what position to list him as because in those days point guards didn't score like Jerry West. But he was a point guard. Basketball reference, for example, lists his position as point guard for 12 out of the 14 seasons he played. And this makes sense considering the fact that there were some years when he averaged almost 10 assists per game.
I live in Ohio work in Cleveland watched my sister graduate from Akron and have always been a Lebron fan and this mite sound crazy but when he left Cleveland i was happy. I wanted to see him succeed i was sick of the celtics knocking us out with there BIG 3 and lets face it Cleveland. its hard to get good players to come to are city. But i never burned a jersey called him a trader because hes a good person and is aloud to make any choice he wants and look what he did for Akron and Cleveland alot. Dan Gilbert can fuck off he built the Horse Shoe Casino in Cleveland and was gonna market it around Lebron and he would t of seen a penny of it. I would love to see him in a cavs jersey but alot of people in this city owe him a apology.
Very intelligent individual, he didn't allow glory to hit him and to forget who is and from where he came from, I know at least one more sport figure who active today and doing same like LeBron that person is tennis player from Serbia Novak Djokovic.
Really LOVE Lebron but MJ.....he just IS BASKETBALL. If you look at the careers MJ never left his team just to win rings. He gathered the people around him by attracting them to himself. I think at the moment there is absolutely NO PLAYER in the NBA who has the potential to overcome MJ as the GOAT. Closest might be Kawhi but he is at the SPURS....that dude is playing at a quality organisation since day one...so no either.
Right, my mistake. I meant to say 10 of his 11; I got his rings confused with how many years he played. Hmmm... I don't know. My intuition tells me that West comes before Wade, at least that's the way I have it on my all time list. But wasn't West a combo guard who mostly played the point?
russell has 11 rings* and i gotta question for you kobe and mj are obviously the top 2 shooting guards all-time, but who is third? i have wade but a lotta people say jerry west?
The Bad Boys really helped MJ become the player that he became, at least in terms of winning. The beat him up so bad that he had to start lifting weights which made him a stronger player. The Pistons also taught him that if you don't use your teammates, you will not win. Lebron was blessed with both from Day 1. A powerful, teammate oriented player. He just didn't have anyone to help him in Cleveland.
Bird wasn't the Finals MVP in 1981 but he averaged 15-15-7 + 2.3 steals per game. Cedric Maxwell was the Finals MVP but Bird averaged 6 more rebounds, 4 more assists and 2 more steals than he did.
No, I think you got me wrong... I thought of the first threpeat, not the 96-98 Bulls, that's a different thing. By the way, 96-98 MJ is just a good tribute to '91-'93. MJ. What I said is that for his first title he head to beat 2 of very toughest 80's teams, besides Celtics. I mean, taking Pistons in their title year to game 7 is quite an achievement, is it? In 1991. Pistons still a force in the playoffs, as were Lakers. It's Bulls maturing more than league getting so weak suddenly ;) cheers
every time lebrons gone to a team hes led them to the finals and championships...high school and nba...3 each...when he was drafted by the cavs he had no power...now that hes been given gm power hes been in 6 straight finals...thats all that matters....gilbert doesnt deserve lebron james...
I've done google searches on "best point guards of all time" and "best shooting guards of all time." Sometimes West appears on the list for shooting guards and sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes he appears on the list for point guards and sometimes he doesn't. The same thing with Allen Iverson: sometimes he's on the point guard list and sometimes he's not; sometimes he's on the shooting guard list and sometimes he's not. I think that because West was a combo guard people are simply confused.
He's going back to Cleveland watch people and teams are going for him all the way he will make you're team automatic playoff team, Championship team as well.
Sorry, I was looking at his stats per 36 minutes. You're right, in '03 he averaged 6 assists per game and in '05 he averaged 5.7. But Garnett didn't get those numbers until his 8th season. Bird was averaging 5.5 assists per game in his 2nd season and he averaged 7 assists per game in the NBA Finals. As a PF Bird averaged 5.6 assists per game. Moreover, Garnett was averaging 4.5 assists per game in Minnesota and his career average is 3.9, so his time in Boston didn't bring him down that much.
As a PF Bird was still averaging more assists per game than KG and he was doing it sooner in his career. KG is probably the only PF who's even close to Bird statistically with respect to assists and Bird was still averaging 1 more assist per game than KG was.
Hmm... I don't know if I would put Wade ahead of West but I can see why you would. Perhaps the fact that Wade played in a more competitive era would give him the edge. What's your top 15 list?
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How do you know that, just because it is not televise does not mean they do not do it.
Not quite. Elgin Baylor and Jerry West were in LA before Wilt Chamberlain. By the time Wilt got to LA it was '68-'69. By that time Bill Russell had already won 12 of his 13 championships. '68-'69 was the only time Wilt, West, and Baylor played Bill Russell because that was the year Bill Russell retired. As for Wilt cracking under pressure, I don't know. I'm not old enough to have ever seen him play and I don't think any video of entire games from that era exist.
lebron is the best attacker and finisher at the rim we've ever seen. best transition scorer we have ever seen. top 5 passer all time. can rebound like a center when needed. has a solid post game now. improved jumper and a very good 3 pt shot. can defend and lock down virtually anybody at any position. hes the only guy in the history of the league that can on one play, bring the ball up and act like magic johnson. and on the next post up and abuse defenders like karl malone.
the league is stacked now more then ever. you have young bloods like kyrie durant westbrook harden williams cp3 rondo curry thompson paul george blake griffin ect... then mid age ones like melo lebron wade gasol brothers randolph bosh smith gal and dwight many more then old age dudes who still put up amazing numbers. like kobe duncan parker kg etc. the league is far more stacked then ever. in the 90's there was only really michael jordan
you're right that is a big myth, people will never get over 2011, other than that he's always been clutch, you never saw people questioning his clutch gene before he came to the heat
It was more physical back then but so was football. The only difference is that hitting is one of the rules in football which was never the case for basketball. Stockton wasn't known for his defense i personally think Kyrie would make him look silly. Payton n Isiah are a different story but u also have Rose, CP3, Rondo, Parker, Curry, Lawson, Williams, n Westbrook who are far more athletic who could assists and score. Not to mention there was no zone defense in the 90's.
I just find it interesting because you sort of think the same way I do. We both think that D-Wade might be better than Jerry West but on your all-time list West is ahead of Wade. And that's how I feel: Wade might be better than West but not above him on the all-time list. It's just weird. I don't understand how Isaiah, Dr. J. or Moses Malone could be ahead of Shaq though. That's also interesting.
Good point but the 90s weren't just Micheal Jordan. There was bird, magic, reggie miller, webber, shaq, kobe, drexler, barkley and many others saying it was just jordan is unfair to all these legends.
I agree but by the 90's half of your list was virtually ineffective. There was Miller Drexler and Barkley, and Shaq. Bird/Magic were basically done, Kobe/Shaq were struggling to gel and even get to the finals to meet the Bulls and Kobe was in his early years. There were the Rockets and the Knicks as well however.
I never said rings were the only thing that matter; but they're the most important thing. Rings > Finals MVP's > MVP's. Also, Bird never 3-peated because he was constantly fighting against Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar + James Worthy. And Bird doesn't have as many MVP's as LBJ but he did dominate the league by winning it 3 straight years from 1984-1986. Finally, most importantly, Bird never choked in the Finals like LBJ did in 2011. If LBJ wins another ring he'll be equal to Bird.
Rings are overrated? Greatness is defined by how you perform on the biggest stage, in the biggest moments. The point of ALL professional sports is to WIN. It's almost impossible to overrate the importance of rings. Also, the competition does matter because your greatness is defined by who you beat. Bird was going up against a Lakers dynasty at the time that had Magic Johnson (best PG of all time), KAJ (probably the best center of all time), and James Worthy.
well you have to look at it from scottie's point of view what do pippen and lebron have in common? all-round players that are good defenders. Mabye scottie just likes all-round players, he could have said oscar is the goat, but i dont really know if oscar was a good defender or not and on top of that oscar was putting up big numbers when scottie was like 5.
Yes it is true that Russell had better player with him IN THE FIRST HALF of that rivalry. But that changed when Wilt had Jerry West and Elgin Baylor on his team. Wilt had great individual stats no doubt. Russell is 10-0 in elimination games vs Wilt. That stat is one that means something! Russell saved his best ball when it mattered most. Wilt (sorry for the term), wilted under pressure situations. He didnt want the ball.
I would say the 80s was a better brand of basketball than the mid to late 90s. Specifically, 1985 to 1993 had the best teams, players, and rivalries than any other period of the modern era of the NBA. In 1988 you had Larry Bird just slightly passed his prime, Magic in his prime and MJ entering his prime. You had the Bad Boy Pistons, Celtics, Lakers and MJs Bulls. No period of basketball can match that. With that said I still feel that Lebron is just as good as those 3 players.
Man this guy is a true role model I don't see MJ or Kobe done some shit like he did. Give back to his school and more!! You can hate for leaving Cleveland but at the end of the day it was the right decision!!!
It would be pretty boss if LeBron went back to Cleveland and won a ring there. I'm sure Dan Gilbert would welcome him back with open arms, but LeBron probably wont do that till his last couple years in the league.
Centers can't bring up the ball like a point guard either, but do we hold that against them? No. Was Lebron's court vision better? Maybe, but that's debatable considering that Bird was averaging 5.5 assists as a power forward, which is unheard of. And LBJ is certainly a more versatile defender than Bird, so I'll give him that. As for being more versatile in general? Not really. Like I said, Bird was as good a scorer, a better shooter, a better rebounder, and almost as good a passer.
Oh man, I don't like flops and that whole stuff either, but stop all the hating..From what I've seen Lebron impresses me a lot..On and off the court! It really seems like he has a great character.. Let Lebron be Lebron, talk about his legacy after he's done and stop all the hating. Yeah, he probably has made some choices that weren't really smart, but who hasn't?! Apart from being a pretty damn good basketball player, he's still that little boy from Akron..and that's great. Stay humble and thankful my friend
Now, it's possible for someone with less rings to be ranked ahead of someone with more rings, which is why Jordan ranks ahead of Bill Russell, but in order for that to happen you have to actually be on a higher level than that person. In what way is LBJ, just in terms of individual skill, CLEARLY better than Bird? In Bird's prime he was just as good a scorer, a better rebounder than LBJ his entire career, and almost as good a passer. Plus, he was no slouch on defense either.
mj dominated the league when magic was pretty much around the time he retired, the bulls beat them in the finals but that wasnt the showtime lakers anymore or magic at his best, and the bad boy pistons were older and injured in mj's era, and plus mj complained and had the pistons reduce their physical paly
lebron should 3 peat with miami, then go back to cleveland and even win one ring for that city would cement his legacy as the greatest of all time. clevelands first championship ever. plus imagine the story line that creates, and you know lebron loves to be in the spot light. how would the fans react to him? would they boo at first then eventually come around? can the young supporting cast of the cavs be enough? imagine a cavs heat playoff series and even the regular season games. would be nuts!
The 90's was more of a big man era cause u had Shaq, Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, Mutombo, Mourning, n Divac. Far better centers in the 90's than now that's for sure. With that said I think the game evolved everywhere else. Look at how many great PG's play in the game today. It was never like that in MJ's era. How many rookies in MJ's era played like Kyrie? How many 6'10 Forwards in MJ's era had a better jumper than KD? The players are far more athletic in today's game
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This video was in my favorites since the day it was posted.. Cleveland are now champions
people tend to forget we the fans hyped him up and he came from the bottom in the ghetto..lebrons tougher than we think....you know whose not kobe mj curry thompson...all of them are spoiled brats look at how they act...they all had dads who were famous and in the nba...lebron didnt....look at how they act as men and leaders...lebrons the best of them
man I love LeBron. I am from Cleveland and I can honestly say that I miss him and I hope he comes back to play with the Cavs soon! :) Home games havent been the same without him, although Kyrie is bringing that energy back. But LeBron is the best to ever play in Ctown. You have def grown into a fine, mature young man Bron. I love that you never forget where u came from and that u always give back to your hometown. Such a great role model! Keep it up!!!!
thank you FOX sports for this video
"That wasn't showtime homie, lol." That sentence had me rolling. Lol.
Love this man! #330 If you've ever met him you know how humble he is. Very proud of you Bron
U're the best Lebron. U make amazing thing with a ball, and also with people like we can see in this video. U're such a model for many of us. Keep inspire people. Thaaanks a lot!
I enjoyed it. 💜
Uber I love your shit! The anime community is shit without ur videos with no frills, just the analysis. Hope to see a video soon.
What's the name of the song at 5:57 ?
What is the song at the end please?????
I'm almost certain West was a combo guard who mostly played the point. There is some confusion over what position to list him as because in those days point guards didn't score like Jerry West. But he was a point guard. Basketball reference, for example, lists his position as point guard for 12 out of the 14 seasons he played. And this makes sense considering the fact that there were some years when he averaged almost 10 assists per game.
3:25 HE KNEW!
PLEASE, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG AT 6:00?
I live in Ohio work in Cleveland watched my sister graduate from Akron and have always been a Lebron fan and this mite sound crazy but when he left Cleveland i was happy. I wanted to see him succeed i was sick of the celtics knocking us out with there BIG 3 and lets face it Cleveland. its hard to get good players to come to are city. But i never burned a jersey called him a trader because hes a good person and is aloud to make any choice he wants and look what he did for Akron and Cleveland alot. Dan Gilbert can fuck off he built the Horse Shoe Casino in Cleveland and was gonna market it around Lebron and he would t of seen a penny of it. I would love to see him in a cavs jersey but alot of people in this city owe him a apology.
Very intelligent individual, he didn't allow glory to hit him and to forget who is and from where he came from, I know at least one more sport figure who active today and doing same like LeBron that person is tennis player from Serbia Novak Djokovic.
For one split second I thought he was Oden lol
like i said 11-15 were hard to choose, so many players to choose from
He is going to be better than MJ
He is already 11 years played in his career... No he is not!
Really LOVE Lebron but MJ.....he just IS BASKETBALL.
If you look at the careers MJ never left his team just to win rings. He gathered the people around him by attracting them to himself.
I think at the moment there is absolutely NO PLAYER in the NBA who has the potential to overcome MJ as the GOAT. Closest might be Kawhi but he is at the SPURS....that dude is playing at a quality organisation since day one...so no either.
Right, my mistake. I meant to say 10 of his 11; I got his rings confused with how many years he played.
Hmmm... I don't know. My intuition tells me that West comes before Wade, at least that's the way I have it on my all time list. But wasn't West a combo guard who mostly played the point?
This man called his move to the Lakers lmao
that hat is so dope
absolutely man...
Hope he comes back!!!
russell has 11 rings*
and i gotta question for you
kobe and mj are obviously the top 2 shooting guards all-time,
but who is third? i have wade but a lotta people say jerry west?
I was very surprised when he said Julius Erving.
When was bill's list made?
As Riley says "BOAT"
I hope he goes back to Cleveland next year
same
The Bad Boys really helped MJ become the player that he became, at least in terms of winning. The beat him up so bad that he had to start lifting weights which made him a stronger player. The Pistons also taught him that if you don't use your teammates, you will not win. Lebron was blessed with both from Day 1. A powerful, teammate oriented player. He just didn't have anyone to help him in Cleveland.
Yea
Bird wasn't the Finals MVP in 1981 but he averaged 15-15-7 + 2.3 steals per game. Cedric Maxwell was the Finals MVP but Bird averaged 6 more rebounds, 4 more assists and 2 more steals than he did.
i agree with you bro
A true fan would support him regardless of where he is..
Agreed
No, I think you got me wrong... I thought of the first threpeat, not the 96-98 Bulls, that's a different thing. By the way, 96-98 MJ is just a good tribute to '91-'93. MJ. What I said is that for his first title he head to beat 2 of very toughest 80's teams, besides Celtics. I mean, taking Pistons in their title year to game 7 is quite an achievement, is it? In 1991. Pistons still a force in the playoffs, as were Lakers. It's Bulls maturing more than league getting so weak suddenly ;) cheers
The GOAT.Great father and husband and great teammate!The KING shall triumph above all
every time lebrons gone to a team hes led them to the finals and championships...high school and nba...3 each...when he was drafted by the cavs he had no power...now that hes been given gm power hes been in 6 straight finals...thats all that matters....gilbert doesnt deserve lebron james...
+razkable le3Rings!!!
I've done google searches on "best point guards of all time" and "best shooting guards of all time." Sometimes West appears on the list for shooting guards and sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes he appears on the list for point guards and sometimes he doesn't. The same thing with Allen Iverson: sometimes he's on the point guard list and sometimes he's not; sometimes he's on the shooting guard list and sometimes he's not.
I think that because West was a combo guard people are simply confused.
He's going back to Cleveland watch people and teams are going for him all the way he will make you're team automatic playoff team, Championship team as well.
Sorry, I was looking at his stats per 36 minutes. You're right, in '03 he averaged 6 assists per game and in '05 he averaged 5.7. But Garnett didn't get those numbers until his 8th season. Bird was averaging 5.5 assists per game in his 2nd season and he averaged 7 assists per game in the NBA Finals. As a PF Bird averaged 5.6 assists per game.
Moreover, Garnett was averaging 4.5 assists per game in Minnesota and his career average is 3.9, so his time in Boston didn't bring him down that much.
remember kg did come out of high school,
They uniforms go
Whatever float your boat brah!
lebron shows up in big games, all-time leader in ppg in game 7's/elimination games.
As a PF Bird was still averaging more assists per game than KG and he was doing it sooner in his career. KG is probably the only PF who's even close to Bird statistically with respect to assists and Bird was still averaging 1 more assist per game than KG was.
"can't get out there when I'm 38 and I'm done playing basketball" G.O.A.T.
didn't you have Todd McCullough?
I think the teams of 1996 to 1998 would probably beat the Bad Boys. But it would be interesting to see how Rodman would guard himself! lol
Hmm... I don't know if I would put Wade ahead of West but I can see why you would. Perhaps the fact that Wade played in a more competitive era would give him the edge.
What's your top 15 list?
How do you know that, just because it is not televise does not mean they do not do it.
dope
Not quite. Elgin Baylor and Jerry West were in LA before Wilt Chamberlain. By the time Wilt got to LA it was '68-'69. By that time Bill Russell had already won 12 of his 13 championships. '68-'69 was the only time Wilt, West, and Baylor played Bill Russell because that was the year Bill Russell retired.
As for Wilt cracking under pressure, I don't know. I'm not old enough to have ever seen him play and I don't think any video of entire games from that era exist.
Cavs fans just hope this cavs team atleast make a top 8 appearence or it will be real hard to bring back lebron.
Interesting. Where's Shaq and D-Wade?
lebron is the best attacker and finisher at the rim we've ever seen. best transition scorer we have ever seen. top 5 passer all time. can rebound like a center when needed. has a solid post game now. improved jumper and a very good 3 pt shot. can defend and lock down virtually anybody at any position. hes the only guy in the history of the league that can on one play, bring the ball up and act like magic johnson. and on the next post up and abuse defenders like karl malone.
Iverson go PRACTICE!
I meant all time.
I wanna be the greatest of all time,that's my goal,my personal goal
the league is stacked now more then ever. you have young bloods like kyrie durant westbrook harden williams cp3 rondo curry thompson paul george blake griffin ect...
then mid age ones like melo lebron wade gasol brothers randolph bosh smith gal and dwight many more
then old age dudes who still put up amazing numbers. like kobe duncan parker kg etc.
the league is far more stacked then ever. in the 90's there was only really michael jordan
6:00 Goooseeee!
rodman would guard jordan and thomas, it would be hard to guard his teammates though...
MJ, Shaq, Hakeem, Payton, Kemp, Pippen, Clyde, Ewing, Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Rodman, Penny Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, Mourning, Mullin, Miller, Mutombo, Robinson
lebro ese el mejor de la nba no ai para no sotro los de heat miami
thats a span of 15 years tho, the league is way better now
you're right that is a big myth, people will never get over 2011, other than that he's always been clutch, you never saw people questioning his clutch gene before he came to the heat
if you google top 10 pg and top 10 sg, west isnt a top 10 pg, but he is a top 10 sg, so i guess he is a shooting guard,
how are those bleachers not packed to the brim? its lebron james for christ's sake
It was more physical back then but so was football. The only difference is that hitting is one of the rules in football which was never the case for basketball. Stockton wasn't known for his defense i personally think Kyrie would make him look silly. Payton n Isiah are a different story but u also have Rose, CP3, Rondo, Parker, Curry, Lawson, Williams, n Westbrook who are far more athletic who could assists and score. Not to mention there was no zone defense in the 90's.
I just find it interesting because you sort of think the same way I do. We both think that D-Wade might be better than Jerry West but on your all-time list West is ahead of Wade. And that's how I feel: Wade might be better than West but not above him on the all-time list. It's just weird. I don't understand how Isaiah, Dr. J. or Moses Malone could be ahead of Shaq though. That's also interesting.
Good point but the 90s weren't just Micheal Jordan. There was bird, magic, reggie miller, webber, shaq, kobe, drexler, barkley and many others saying it was just jordan is unfair to all these legends.
Thats what they all say...
why is lerbon looks way more handsome than before???
3 point shooter he is the best, when it comes to shooting i dont know who id called the best,
We al got to agree that Lebron is an all around great guy.
I agree but by the 90's half of your list was virtually ineffective. There was Miller Drexler and Barkley, and Shaq. Bird/Magic were basically done, Kobe/Shaq were struggling to gel and even get to the finals to meet the Bulls and Kobe was in his early years. There were the Rockets and the Knicks as well however.
If lebron was raw he would of said "me myself and I" to the 3 best players of all time question
I never said rings were the only thing that matter; but they're the most important thing. Rings > Finals MVP's > MVP's.
Also, Bird never 3-peated because he was constantly fighting against Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar + James Worthy.
And Bird doesn't have as many MVP's as LBJ but he did dominate the league by winning it 3 straight years from 1984-1986.
Finally, most importantly, Bird never choked in the Finals like LBJ did in 2011. If LBJ wins another ring he'll be equal to Bird.
Rings are overrated? Greatness is defined by how you perform on the biggest stage, in the biggest moments. The point of ALL professional sports is to WIN. It's almost impossible to overrate the importance of rings.
Also, the competition does matter because your greatness is defined by who you beat. Bird was going up against a Lakers dynasty at the time that had Magic Johnson (best PG of all time), KAJ (probably the best center of all time), and James Worthy.
Bron is a cool dude
have*
well you have to look at it from scottie's point of view
what do pippen and lebron have in common?
all-round players that are good defenders.
Mabye scottie just likes all-round players, he could have said oscar is the goat, but i dont really know if oscar was a good defender or not and on top of that oscar was putting up big numbers when scottie was like 5.
Yes it is true that Russell had better player with him IN THE FIRST HALF of that rivalry. But that changed when Wilt had Jerry West and Elgin Baylor on his team. Wilt had great individual stats no doubt. Russell is 10-0 in elimination games vs Wilt. That stat is one that means something! Russell saved his best ball when it mattered most. Wilt (sorry for the term), wilted under pressure situations. He didnt want the ball.
actually, Tony Parker and Wade are the same age
I would say the 80s was a better brand of basketball than the mid to late 90s. Specifically, 1985 to 1993 had the best teams, players, and rivalries than any other period of the modern era of the NBA. In 1988 you had Larry Bird just slightly passed his prime, Magic in his prime and MJ entering his prime. You had the Bad Boy Pistons, Celtics, Lakers and MJs Bulls. No period of basketball can match that. With that said I still feel that Lebron is just as good as those 3 players.
0:49 Greg Oden
he staying in miami 4 sureeee
How is CP3 a young blood and Dwight one of the 'mid age ones' when CP is older than Dwight?
Man this guy is a true role model I don't see MJ or Kobe done some shit like he did. Give back to his school and more!! You can hate for leaving Cleveland but at the end of the day it was the right decision!!!
this guy has hart
It would be pretty boss if LeBron went back to Cleveland and won a ring there. I'm sure Dan Gilbert would welcome him back with open arms, but LeBron probably wont do that till his last couple years in the league.
i know y'all heard him say whichever arena his jersey is hung.... hints of a comeback to CLE???? :$
nash is definitely a candidate to be the best shooter ever
Centers can't bring up the ball like a point guard either, but do we hold that against them? No.
Was Lebron's court vision better? Maybe, but that's debatable considering that Bird was averaging 5.5 assists as a power forward, which is unheard of.
And LBJ is certainly a more versatile defender than Bird, so I'll give him that. As for being more versatile in general? Not really. Like I said, Bird was as good a scorer, a better shooter, a better rebounder, and almost as good a passer.
i respect jbj alot but my favorite player is kobe i like lebron too though
Oh man, I don't like flops and that whole stuff either, but stop all the hating..From what I've seen Lebron impresses me a lot..On and off the court! It really seems like he has a great character..
Let Lebron be Lebron, talk about his legacy after he's done and stop all the hating. Yeah, he probably has made some choices that weren't really smart, but who hasn't?! Apart from being a pretty damn good basketball player, he's still that little boy from Akron..and that's great. Stay humble and thankful my friend
Now, it's possible for someone with less rings to be ranked ahead of someone with more rings, which is why Jordan ranks ahead of Bill Russell, but in order for that to happen you have to actually be on a higher level than that person. In what way is LBJ, just in terms of individual skill, CLEARLY better than Bird? In Bird's prime he was just as good a scorer, a better rebounder than LBJ his entire career, and almost as good a passer. Plus, he was no slouch on defense either.
when someone else attempts over 7,000 3's and makes 40% of them then i'll call them the best
mj dominated the league when magic was pretty much around the time he retired, the bulls beat them in the finals but that wasnt the showtime lakers anymore or magic at his best, and the bad boy pistons were older and injured in mj's era, and plus mj complained and had the pistons reduce their physical paly
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lebron should 3 peat with miami, then go back to cleveland and even win one ring for that city would cement his legacy as the greatest of all time. clevelands first championship ever. plus imagine the story line that creates, and you know lebron loves to be in the spot light. how would the fans react to him? would they boo at first then eventually come around? can the young supporting cast of the cavs be enough? imagine a cavs heat playoff series and even the regular season games. would be nuts!
The 90's was more of a big man era cause u had Shaq, Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, Mutombo, Mourning, n Divac. Far better centers in the 90's than now that's for sure. With that said I think the game evolved everywhere else. Look at how many great PG's play in the game today. It was never like that in MJ's era. How many rookies in MJ's era played like Kyrie? How many 6'10 Forwards in MJ's era had a better jumper than KD? The players are far more athletic in today's game