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@@harrietcraig6716 yeah but you know I was thinking about the fact that he doesn't really even know that girl very well and he therefore has no way of knowing if she will even have him! In other words he's willing to kill his own father for a girl he doesn't even know!
I love it when people get scammed by hit men. "Go ahead, tell the police that I didn't kill your father like you paid me to" is the ultimate power move
It always reminds be of the Chinese hit man that took the money to do the hit but paid another to do it , but that person paid another and them another till there was a long line of hit men paying the other till they told the intended target there was a hot nobody wanted to do.
There was a story not too long ago where a guy went online to hire a guy to him because he couldn’t stand to take his own life himself. Turned out it was an FBI honeypot, so they refunded his money and recommended a therapist.
Got excited for the crime happening in Kansas where my little grandson lives, then wondered why my brain is so weird... Thanks for another great brief case!!
What struck me was John's unhealthy, almost entitled obsession with Frances Babcock and his idea to stalk her, so other men couldn't woo her. That speaks a lot about his willingness to go to any length to pursue her--but he lacked the money-killing his father for the insurance money seemed like an easy solution to John. I say he was guilty, with plenty of evidence.
If he was willing to kill his father just to get her, you can imagine what he could’ve done to any of her suitors or even to her, if she ever displeased him
I haven't been able to write a comment for some time, so I just want to say again how grateful I am whenever a new B.C story comes up. I look forward to it all week. All your followers would agree you have something special, besides how well researched and presented your videos are. So thank you mate. You are truly appreciated. Wolf 🐺❤
@@BriefCaseOfficial really we have to accept life on life's terms, after of doing all we can. Mindfulness and being present allows you to appreciate each moment and focus on the positives. Thank you for your concern. It's appreciated. But I have millions of beautiful moments, yes? 😊 Take care B.C. Another one of life's joys 🤗 History is fascinating. Im not sure who said it, but the quote, " The one thing we have learned from history, is we have learned nothing". We, from everyday people, to governments to monarchy, make the same mistakes repeatedly throughout history. The definition of insanity. Sad but true.
@@nicolad8822 That’s true but in this case it was pure greed. In other cases, there is abuse and I can understand but I mean loving parents. Parents that are killed because kids can’t do what they want or be with who they want. These make no sense.
My sister & my dad's wife, hauled him out of the hospital, on his death bed, to try & have him sign all his bank accounts,time shares, & property, over to the 3rd wife (pre nup), before he died & everything was consolidated & put into our Trust. Instead of splitting 4 ways, it would go 50/50 between them. When that didn't work, because he couldn't sign on pain medication, they pulled him off it. (Unbelievable suffering, the oncologist said he had the most tumors he's ever seen in the human body.) Then, they took him home to 'care' for him, and tried to convince our grandma to bring a wheel chair over, to haul him to the banks and notary, again. When that didn't work, they juiced him every hour on the hour with morphine, adavan, and lorazipam, until he was unconscious, and two more days while he was unconscious, until he died. He was murdered, on his death bed, and there's no way to ever prove it, over money. Greed is a horrendous thing. Btw, my sister is a TEACHER, in charge of CHILDREN. 😬😕
@@mariatorres9789What a horrific tale. I had a stepmother that manipulated my weak-willed, easily swayed father to cut his own children out of his Will and leave everything to her and her 2 daughters. My father was her 4th husband, and she had inherited the entire estates from 3 other husband's + their life insurances + pensions. She and her 2 daughters never worked a day in their lives.
Thank you for the upload. Yesterday was not so great a day since it was Mother's Day and it also would have been Mom's 75th birthday. I was also telling people that not all mothers are great. I'll do it for Father's Day too.
This is another fascinating episode! I absolutely love these from the 19th century and earlier. I'm sure they're difficult to research. I'm so hooked on your program! Thank you for another fantastic episode Brief Case!
I don’t know how this one got by me, I’ve been enjoying your cases for a while!! I love 💕 your voice,the music,and your content,you are the absolute best!!! I will never understand how children can kill their parents,so so sad!! Thanks Brief Case for another awesome case!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you for a good start for Monday! I had a lovely mother's day yesterday with 2 of my4 adult children taking me to a Detroit Tigers baseball game with me telling them for the 100th time about how a tigers game was their dads and my 1st date, including ticket prices of $5 for bleacher seats😂. Now I can start my day at chemo infusion clinic, knowing we lost a patient over the weekend, but with courage to keep a smile on for thr ones still here. 😢 cheers to all.
Always an intriguing and thought provoking start to the week with Brief Case's historical true crime studies. Thanks BC with I'm sure, major support and supervision from Brief Cat.🙏🖤✌️
Interesting one, BC! Wonder how many people think he was innocent? I guess that the inmate had nothing to gain from saying that John was innocent ... thanks, again! One of the most intruiging cases you've covered! 😊
Shame on the newspapers for splashing around information about an innocent very young lady who had nothing to do with this. No doubt she was the object of malicious rumors among the nasty gossips in her area.
So pleased to see a brilliant sponsor for your channel! This is an absurd case, truly. John was quite the daft nutter in my book. He killed his father over money and a woman he was attracted to and wanted to keep by means of the mentioned money 🤦♀️. Things really don’t change over time, still happens every day around the world. John should’ve let him take the train back!
I'm not convinced, maybe it was Mrs Collins who murdered her husband, or at least was involved somehow. She was eager to proceed with the funeral, and she knew they should have a pistol each under their pillows, so why didn't she try to grab one, or say "I was in such shock I forgot to try to get our pistols"? Did she know the pistols had been removed? Seems fully possible that she, and her stepson John Collins developed plans on murdering Mr Collins simultaneously, but separately. Or maybe they did it together?
The wife was just a step mother this guy had tried to get others do the deed most families want to plan funerals so no surprise that she wish to get it over with it’s not like he was poisoned and she needed to get him in the ground fast
@@ralphe5842She could've given him something so he wouldn't fight her when she shot him? As the wife of Mr Collins, I presume she inherited her fair share after him. I don't deny that her stepson/John Collins was planning to murder his father, but that doesn't mean she couldn't have been making similar plans. Or maybe they were in cahoots, and collaborated about having those pistols removed...
Whilst it is unknown if John was guilty, I think there is reasonable doubt. I’m going to look up the case and read more. This was fascinating, BC. Thanks for doing such a fine job.
What a great way to wake up another great video from brief case, I just hope his smooth voice doesn't lull me back to sleep thanks for another great case
It appears that a lot of criminal behavior is done by those who lack an ability to see very far into the future or beyond their own perceptions. Had the two brothers done the murder for him, surely one or both would have been nabbed eventually, and it's certain they would have thrown him under the carriage (as it were). I wonder what his sister thought about the whole thing...
I would love to see you do videos from the cases featured in the documentaries on the streaming service, or better yet doing a full length react video to the documentaries.
Wow! Did he do it? Doubt has been cast. Great story. If he had a true motive it seems like lust not greed are what drove him. The guy that wrote a book exonerating John could of had motives for lying, but besides book deal money what could they be? Fascinating case. As always the contemporary illustrations you've provided really bring it to life. I don't watch BC episodes unless I have the opportunity to actually watch not just listen because of the graphics you provide. Thanks BC! This is a good one.🎉
We'll never know for sure whether John Collins killed his father but he was certainly an accomplice. Who else but he would have removed the guns from under the pillows of his parents, taking away the means to defend themselves against an armed intruder? Many times in these cases from previous centuries seem to have been let out of jail way, way before the end of their sentence and got to live long lives, free, after too short a punishment for their deeds. Another great story, Brief Case. Thank you for your hard work and research.
This is a rather sad case. We have a wife who claims she saw a shadowy figure at the edge of her bed, shooting at her sleeping husband, but didn't attempt to shoot her even though she's a witness. If John Collins set this up, why didn't he just tell the assasins to also kill his mother, then the life insurance money would be split between his sister and himself? Why didn't John's mother call out during the incident? That's a natural reaction in a traumatic event, although I know that it's also a possibility that she was too scared to scream as well. In addition, they say that Grant Mead was in Texas prior to the murder. What was the proof of this? How do we know that he didn't hire someone to kill his stepfather? I find it quite convenient that HE was the one that found the revolver belonging to his mother wrapped up in the blanket. 🤔🧐 Since this was 1898, fingerprinting technology was still yet to be implemented to solve murder cases, so this couldn't have been possible evidence. Had this occurred in 1902 and after, it could've been a different story. Was Helen Gillespie questioned as well? There was no mention of her reaction to the murder after it happened. On the other hand, there was overwhelming circumstantial evidence against John Collins and circumstantial evidence is STILL evidence in the eyes of the court. One thing that disturbs me though is the length of time the average jury back in the early 20th century deliberated. TWO HOURS? This is a man's life they're deciding on. Anyway, great case and again, it's sad that these things happen. I'm going to listen to the testimonies again, then I'll vote. CHEERS!
Hello Brief, I hope you are well. It seems ambiguity surrounds these events, which is what makes it intriguing. I do try to similarly surround my mischief in mystery; alas, despite recruiting our son to provide me an alibi, my wife has rumbled me anyway for putting plastic spiders in her toothbrush holder.
Hahaha!😄 Plastic spiders! A little adorable boy who is a sidekick in carrying out dastardly deeds! Your wife has found herself in a family crime syndicate 😂
I just can't believe how many people are actually willing to kill their loved ones especially their parents the people who brought them into this world, kill them just for money!?!
Good morning, Well once again it leads down to greed. This seems like it also is about obsession he was thinking about this young lady going away and thinking about some thing that he didn’t know was even going to happen. He couldn’t bare the thought of her being with another young man. So he kills his father? It just seem to me that this young man didn’t want to be responsible for anything, he was entitled and what he did to his father was very sad. I personally don’t think he spent enough time in prison but different time.. it seems to me that he pretty much got away with murder. Thank you for another fascinating story and have a wonderful week
Its a tough one. The step mothers story is very unlikely and she seems very lucky not to have been shot too if she were innocent. Johns asking for hitmen is of course damning. And his strange obsession over the girl lead to his following her around so he clearly wasnt well adjusted but i would be dubious of convicting on the evidence they had.
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One human trait that has never changed is greed
And greed becomes dangerous when there’s a love / lust interest in the mix.
@@harrietcraig6716 yeah but you know I was thinking about the fact that he doesn't really even know that girl very well and he therefore has no way of knowing if she will even have him! In other words he's willing to kill his own father for a girl he doesn't even know!
And never will change my friend, unfortunately for us all!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️
FACT!
@@debbieflaherty1975 actually one if not more of the seven deadly sins are always in play, unfortunately!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️
I love it when people get scammed by hit men. "Go ahead, tell the police that I didn't kill your father like you paid me to" is the ultimate power move
😂
It always reminds be of the Chinese hit man that took the money to do the hit but paid another to do it , but that person paid another and them another till there was a long line of hit men paying the other till they told the intended target there was a hot nobody wanted to do.
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There was a story not too long ago where a guy went online to hire a guy to him because he couldn’t stand to take his own life himself. Turned out it was an FBI honeypot, so they refunded his money and recommended a therapist.
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What a pleasure to see those old photographs of the University of Kansas, my alma mater where I, too studied theology. Thank you.
Got excited for the crime happening in Kansas where my little grandson lives, then wondered why my brain is so weird... Thanks for another great brief case!!
Weird...but everybody does it!
@@lazyhomebody1356 Us breifcasers are exceptionally weird.
@@Orangestardust And proud of it! Yay, us
Wow so early! Awesome , 7am coffee and BC!! And 19 mins long ? We are blessed
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Sounds nice :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial yeah it was . The adderall and coffee was kicking in right when I saw the notification . Got to listen to it on my way to work .
What struck me was John's unhealthy, almost entitled obsession with Frances Babcock and his idea to stalk her, so other men couldn't woo her. That speaks a lot about his willingness to go to any length to pursue her--but he lacked the money-killing his father for the insurance money seemed like an easy solution to John. I say he was guilty, with plenty of evidence.
He’s basically just joe from YOU
She had a lucky escape.
If he was willing to kill his father just to get her, you can imagine what he could’ve done to any of her suitors or even to her, if she ever displeased him
I can never understand the greed consuming children leading them to murder their parents or anyone else. 😭😢😪😥🤕
I love starting my Monday with BC! Thank you for what you do!
I haven't been able to write a comment for some time, so I just want to say again how grateful I am whenever a new B.C story comes up. I look forward to it all week. All your followers would agree you have something special, besides how well researched and presented your videos are. So thank you mate. You are truly appreciated.
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Thankyou, I hope everything is OK
@@BriefCaseOfficial really we have to accept life on life's terms, after of doing all we can. Mindfulness and being present allows you to appreciate each moment and focus on the positives. Thank you for your concern. It's appreciated. But I have millions of beautiful moments, yes? 😊 Take care B.C. Another one of life's joys 🤗 History is fascinating. Im not sure who said it, but the quote, " The one thing we have learned from history, is we have learned nothing". We, from everyday people, to governments to monarchy, make the same mistakes repeatedly throughout history. The definition of insanity. Sad but true.
youtube censors me too for hate speech ,bullying and something else all lies ,im a preacher of the gospel.
Wow! A crazy one from my hometown! I’d never heard of this case, so thank you for covering it!
Pure gold BC! I've never understood how children can kill their parent(s), especially out of pure greed.
There have been some terrible cases like that, the first ever case I did on this channel nearly 5 years ago was a case of Parricide
Some cases will have involved abuse by said parents?
@@nicolad8822 That’s true but in this case it was pure greed. In other cases, there is abuse and I can understand but I mean loving parents. Parents that are killed because kids can’t do what they want or be with who they want. These make no sense.
My sister & my dad's wife, hauled him out of the hospital, on his death bed, to try & have him sign all his bank accounts,time shares, & property, over to the 3rd wife (pre nup), before he died & everything was consolidated & put into our Trust. Instead of splitting 4 ways, it would go 50/50 between them. When that didn't work, because he couldn't sign on pain medication, they pulled him off it. (Unbelievable suffering, the oncologist said he had the most tumors he's ever seen in the human body.) Then, they took him home to 'care' for him, and tried to convince our grandma to bring a wheel chair over, to haul him to the banks and notary, again. When that didn't work, they juiced him every hour on the hour with morphine, adavan, and lorazipam, until he was unconscious, and two more days while he was unconscious, until he died. He was murdered, on his death bed, and there's no way to ever prove it, over money. Greed is a horrendous thing. Btw, my sister is a TEACHER, in charge of CHILDREN. 😬😕
@@mariatorres9789What a horrific tale. I had a stepmother that manipulated my weak-willed, easily swayed father to cut his own children out of his Will and leave everything to her and her 2 daughters. My father was her 4th husband, and she had inherited the entire estates from 3 other husband's + their life insurances + pensions. She and her 2 daughters never worked a day in their lives.
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Thankyou so much :)
Another beautiful Monday with Brief Case!! Best of days to you Sir, thanks for another great video!!
Thanks for watching
Thank you for the upload. Yesterday was not so great a day since it was Mother's Day and it also would have been Mom's 75th birthday. I was also telling people that not all mothers are great. I'll do it for Father's Day too.
So sorry, I hope you are OK
From my observations, most parents aren't that cliche 'good parent'!
@@lazyhomebody1356 Hey there! Yeah, so true. Death does not absolve you from these things. If you have a stereotype good family, you are very lucky!
@@BriefCaseOfficial Thank you. I thought the day would be all right, but it was also kind of sad.
Congrats on your sponsorship BC! I'd heard about this channel before.
Love the clever criminals pocketing the cash and watch! Well-played.
Good morning BC from Black Diamond Alberta, love all the drawings and photos added during your narrations. Have a great week 😊
Thanks, You too
It's nice to relax after a busy Monday with the latest Brief Case! Another interesting case I'd never heard of, and very well presented.
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This is another fascinating episode! I absolutely love these from the 19th century and earlier. I'm sure they're difficult to research. I'm so hooked on your program! Thank you for another fantastic episode Brief Case!
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Briefyyy my Monday main man!
Thank you ever so much for the upload :)
OMG THANK YOU Brief Case! Had a hard day and this is exactly what I needed.
Hope tomorrow is better
Thankyou BC , really needed this today! Please keep up the fantastic work x
Good morning Brief Case.
Morning Joanne
Excellent episode as always Sir, thank you!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️
Another brief case i always tune in every Monday love the old time murder cases !!!! Great narration keep up doing it 😎
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I don’t know how this one got by me, I’ve been enjoying your cases for a while!! I love 💕 your voice,the music,and your content,you are the absolute best!!! I will never understand how children can kill their parents,so so sad!! Thanks Brief Case for another awesome case!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
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Thank you for a good start for Monday! I had a lovely mother's day yesterday with 2 of my4 adult children taking me to a Detroit Tigers baseball game with me telling them for the 100th time about how a tigers game was their dads and my 1st date, including ticket prices of $5 for bleacher seats😂. Now I can start my day at chemo infusion clinic, knowing we lost a patient over the weekend, but with courage to keep a smile on for thr ones still here. 😢 cheers to all.
Fight on, warrior. You are the light of the world.
Hi Marianne, Glad you had a nice Mothers Day and that seems to be a very cool first date, the work you do is amazing, thankyou so much
Yesterday was a weird day for me since it also would have been Mom's birthday.
Hope the Tigers won!
I know nothing about Baseball but I looked it up and yes the Tigers won
Love these stories ❤️
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I always enjoy these.
Thankyou :)
Another wonderfully twisted Brief Case!
Good video as always
Thankyou :)
Always an intriguing and thought provoking start to the week with Brief Case's historical true crime studies.
Thanks BC with I'm sure, major support and supervision from Brief Cat.🙏🖤✌️
Good morning, afternoon or evening wherever you are
Good Morning Sean
Another great episode
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Interesting one, BC! Wonder how many people think he was innocent? I guess that the inmate had nothing to gain from saying that John was innocent ... thanks, again! One of the most intruiging cases you've covered! 😊
Thanks Lynn
Love your vids! Great voice too!
Thanks Pam
My opinion is that all the circumstantial evidence adds up to his guilt.
I agree
Agreed!
I feel bad for Miss Babcock. Her picture and innocent story were front pages news…
It looks like she didn’t marry until she was 34. Maybe retreated for a while. She was only 16/17 when this happened.
Shame on the newspapers for splashing around information about an innocent very young lady who had nothing to do with this. No doubt she was the object of malicious rumors among the nasty gossips in her area.
@@ImCarolB lol!
So pleased to see a brilliant sponsor for your channel! This is an absurd case, truly. John was quite the daft nutter in my book. He killed his father over money and a woman he was attracted to and wanted to keep by means of the mentioned money 🤦♀️. Things really don’t change over time, still happens every day around the world. John should’ve let him take the train back!
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Quality Channel!!!!!!!!
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Love yourbchannel, BC! Been here a long while! Excellent story today. 👏
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I'm not convinced, maybe it was Mrs Collins who murdered her husband, or at least was involved somehow. She was eager to proceed with the funeral, and she knew they should have a pistol each under their pillows, so why didn't she try to grab one, or say "I was in such shock I forgot to try to get our pistols"?
Did she know the pistols had been removed? Seems fully possible that she, and her stepson John Collins developed plans on murdering Mr Collins simultaneously, but separately. Or maybe they did it together?
The wife was just a step mother this guy had tried to get others do the deed most families want to plan funerals so no surprise that she wish to get it over with it’s not like he was poisoned and she needed to get him in the ground fast
@@ralphe5842She could've given him something so he wouldn't fight her when she shot him? As the wife of Mr Collins, I presume she inherited her fair share after him. I don't deny that her stepson/John Collins was planning to murder his father, but that doesn't mean she couldn't have been making similar plans. Or maybe they were in cahoots, and collaborated about having those pistols removed...
@@FinnishLapphund I agree! She profited well from the death.
Whilst it is unknown if John was guilty, I think there is reasonable doubt.
I’m going to look up the case and read more.
This was fascinating, BC.
Thanks for doing such a fine job.
Anything is possible
Thank you, BC.
Love the old photos especially of the houses.
Good morning BC so happy to be up and watching one of your videos! I ❤️❤️❤️
Hi Jordan :)
It is unbelievable how the importance of money would supersede the importance of one's own flesh and blood.
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Another great case as usual. I always look forward to watching your videos while enjoying my morning coffee ☕️. Thanks BC.
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Greetings fans and BC. Great story. Always looking forward to going back in time. 🥰
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Thanks for the reminder via community page, for some reason I missed this on Monday x
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What a great way to wake up another great video from brief case, I just hope his smooth voice doesn't lull me back to sleep thanks for another great case
It appears that a lot of criminal behavior is done by those who lack an ability to see very far into the future or beyond their own perceptions. Had the two brothers done the murder for him, surely one or both would have been nabbed eventually, and it's certain they would have thrown him under the carriage (as it were). I wonder what his sister thought about the whole thing...
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It is a good day because Brief Case uploaded another great case thanks for these great cases
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Thank you BC, for another great start to my Monday morning!
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Amazing case BC, love these tales Monday done ✔. 🇨🇦🍁👍
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Thank You 😊
I would love to see you do videos from the cases featured in the documentaries on the streaming service, or better yet doing a full length react video to the documentaries.
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I always look forward to Mondays for your videos. Thank you my friend for another excellent video
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Wow, what a wild case!
Wow! Did he do it? Doubt has been cast. Great story. If he had a true motive it seems like lust not greed are what drove him. The guy that wrote a book exonerating John could of had motives for lying, but besides book deal money what could they be? Fascinating case. As always the contemporary illustrations you've provided really bring it to life. I don't watch BC episodes unless I have the opportunity to actually watch not just listen because of the graphics you provide. Thanks BC! This is a good one.🎉
Another great vid Mr B. Case!
Thanks Jason
great stuff as usual sir
Thanks Sherry :)
We'll never know for sure whether John Collins killed his father but he was certainly an accomplice. Who else but he would have removed the guns from under the pillows of his parents, taking away the means to defend themselves against an armed intruder? Many times in these cases from previous centuries seem to have been let out of jail way, way before the end of their sentence and got to live long lives, free, after too short a punishment for their deeds. Another great story, Brief Case. Thank you for your hard work and research.
Great detectives in an ignorant time of blatant murders.
another great brief case.
Thankyou :)
Great story Ty
Another intriguing case.
Today it's Brief Case and eye doctor appointment for me ❤
Hope it goes well
Hmmmmmmmmmm the story is very sad 😔thanks sir great job very nice explanation 👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻GOD bless you n protect you always all the best 👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻😍😍😍😍
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Thanks for your stories for me they are akso the source of good English,useful for people who want to improve it
I love MONDAYS!! Haha your videos are just what I need
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Good morning, BC!!
Morning
Chilling.
He came downstairs with his sister in response to his step-mother's shouts, AND he was seen on the roof of the annex??? 😮
Brilliant ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks Kim
Can you imagine what kind of minister Collins would have made? I'm surprised a church hired him for any position.
He still could have written good sermons. Many charismatic preachers go to jail for misusing money donations
He was a Christian Scientist “practitioner” in California. Con artist.
@@nicolad8822 I suspected that from the wording.
This is a rather sad case. We have a wife who claims she saw a shadowy figure at the edge of her bed, shooting at her sleeping husband, but didn't attempt to shoot her even though she's a witness. If John Collins set this up, why didn't he just tell the assasins to also kill his mother, then the life insurance money would be split between his sister and himself? Why didn't John's mother call out during the incident? That's a natural reaction in a traumatic event, although I know that it's also a possibility that she was too scared to scream as well.
In addition, they say that Grant Mead was in Texas prior to the murder. What was the proof of this? How do we know that he didn't hire someone to kill his stepfather? I find it quite convenient that HE was the one that found the revolver belonging to his mother wrapped up in the blanket. 🤔🧐
Since this was 1898, fingerprinting technology was still yet to be implemented to solve murder cases, so this couldn't have been possible evidence. Had this occurred in 1902 and after, it could've been a different story. Was Helen Gillespie questioned as well? There was no mention of her reaction to the murder after it happened.
On the other hand, there was overwhelming circumstantial evidence against John Collins and circumstantial evidence is STILL evidence in the eyes of the court.
One thing that disturbs me though is the length of time the average jury back in the early 20th century deliberated. TWO HOURS? This is a man's life they're deciding on.
Anyway, great case and again, it's sad that these things happen. I'm going to listen to the testimonies again, then I'll vote. CHEERS!
2 hours for jury deliberations? Don't be surprised ! Brief Case has many cases with a jury deliberating verdict within 10 to 20 minutes ! 🤪😝
WoW another great story by BC. Thank you BC
Thanks Mary
What a really interesting story.
Thanks Lesley
Hello Brief, I hope you are well. It seems ambiguity surrounds these events, which is what makes it intriguing.
I do try to similarly surround my mischief in mystery; alas, despite recruiting our son to provide me an alibi, my wife has rumbled me anyway for putting plastic spiders in her toothbrush holder.
Hahaha!😄
Plastic spiders!
A little adorable boy who is a sidekick in carrying out dastardly deeds!
Your wife has found herself in a family crime syndicate 😂
@@caroliner2029 Not so little anymore, but he still participates in the nonsense.
I just can't believe how many people are actually willing to kill their loved ones especially their parents the people who brought them into this world, kill them just for money!?!
I just started following you on Facebook!
I am not on Facebook, the page you found is not me
It sounds like John Collins did the crime because he loved the girl so much he wanted to give her every thing
Kinda bizarre they both kept revolvers under their pillows.
If he didn't kill his father, he sure had a motive. I didn't hear of anybody else having a motive.
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Well once again it leads down to greed. This seems like it also is about obsession he was thinking about this young lady going away and thinking about some thing that he didn’t know was even going to happen. He couldn’t bare the thought of her being with another young man. So he kills his father? It just seem to me that this young man didn’t want to be responsible for anything, he was entitled and what he did to his father was very sad. I personally don’t think he spent enough time in prison but different time.. it seems to me that he pretty much got away with murder. Thank you for another fascinating story and have a wonderful week
I live in Topeka heard this story also have been to the house in central Topeka
Its a tough one. The step mothers story is very unlikely and she seems very lucky not to have been shot too if she were innocent. Johns asking for hitmen is of course damning. And his strange obsession over the girl lead to his following her around so he clearly wasnt well adjusted but i would be dubious of convicting on the evidence they had.
Very strange story, but I always look forward to ending my work week with your videos! Thank you!!🌅