Heads are still so good and even better when you can find for this kind of price. Get your self a hand full of different size weights and start playing around with them.
This is great, as someone who loves TXG, the biggest compliment I can give is that this is on par with their work. Keep it up, and if you can figure out consent with your customers to show the process more drawn out, there is a market for that. Cheers!
I sold my Gen 2 and bought the Gen 4 PXG 0811 X driver and took it to the range and course today. I was surprised how much better the Gen 4 is compared to the Gen 2. I can't say that it is longer with certainty because I had no ball monitor, but it did seem longer. It was certainly more consistent with better shot dispersion. I did order it with a 45" shaft whereas the Gen 2 was 45.5" so that helps accuracy. I was hitting with the middle of the sweet spot regularly, and that will give you more distance than a mishit with a longer shaft. It is 9* driver and I left the heaviest adjustment weight in the front, and I was surprised at the height I was getting - so no need to add loft. The Gen 4 head is 5 grams lighter than the Gen 2 and this is another factor that may be giving me more distance - lighter head can give you more swing speed. Lastly, I am using a counterbalanced shaft - Even Flow Riptide CB 60 gram and that can also increase ball speed. In summary, longer, straighter and the sound is good too.
Great Video. I've watched many reviews of the PXG Proto driver and this is by far one of the best. My driver fitting is in three days and I'm glad to have seen this video prior.
Absolute mega video!! I took the 15g weight out from the front, and put a 10g in the heel, which has helped, but after watching this, I’ll pop along to a PXG demo day to dial it in further, and I’ll use the weights you done (hopefully it works just as well for me too)
@@ariesnc6320 yes it’s my back up but go back to her from time to time. She is really solid and the best sound From any of the drivers I’ve tried and that list of drivers is a long one.
Wow .. Excellent video and explanation ... my test is approaching and I can’t wait to get my new 0811 driver and irons from PXG .. I’m now a subscriber.. cheers !!
This fitting example was great. I need to tweak the same driver. With regard to the rollout, it looks like you are using GC Quad. Shots that hit the green seem to land really soft and that may have inadvertently lowered the total distance numbers. I'll bet if you moved that green back, the rollout would have been more. The ball didn't seem to have more height on it and change in backspin was minimal. Awesome stuff here. Just stumbled onto your channel. Hitting subscribe now.
Bought a new one for $200. Also got 2 7.5 g weights and a 10 and 5. Should be enough to get anything i need. I have it set up for the big draw, but that may be too much. I don't need that much correction. I have a big fade (20 yards), but super consistent. If i can get 10 yards with low spin thats perfect. With the long clubs very few pros play a straight ball. We want that 1 way miss.
I bought a 0811 X+ for $325 just before the price increase to $375. It's been great so far. I went for an upcharge shaft at $300, so the total driver was $625, but still a great deal.
Great question none, at least from this fitting went. The customer needed weight. In regard to loft sleeves, they help but the single axis sleeves like ping, Taylormade,Cobra and PXG it’s always a double whammy you can’t just affect loft without also altering the lie angle. With that said Callaway and Titleist has the two best loft sleeves on the market…
This is exactly what I’m trying to do on my Gen 6 0311 9 degree driver… but my driver has only 3 weight ports , heel, toe and rear. Stock weights are 2 71/2 gr and a 1 21/2… got both 71/2 in heel and toe and 21/2 in rear, it’s good but I think it can be better. Fitter I worked with was not very helpful… would like to add more mass but with only 3 ports, don’t know how much weight and where to put it… my miss is also a little right would like a right to left… any advice would be greatly appreciated. Aloha from Hawaii 🏄🏽♂️🏌️♂️
So you will likely need to order a 12.5 and a 15 gram weight to fully see the benefit. But in the mean time here would be my suggestion. Move one of the 7.5 to the back and try it to see if it helps if it makes it worse than swap the 2.5 to the other side and retest. So basically you want the lightest weight in either the toe or heel. If this doesn’t work either than you don’t have enough weight and this is where a 10 or 15 would be a good option. And you would just replace one of the 7.5 weights with a heavier one. Hope this helps.
So basically the finished product was an extra 2.5 grams in the toe vs what the customer brought in? My question would be...you think that toe weight would of made his right side miss a touch worse, but actually helped him draw it- how come? Was it just because the extra weight helped his timing and close the face and find the center contact or am I missing something?
Your spot on, sometimes I’ll have customers who will have a draw biased driver but can never draw the ball and as soon as I move the weight to the toe they all of a sudden can feel the mass and release the clubhead when they need to. It’s really crazy how it works out that way, and it’s just a testament that we all respond to feel and weight just a little different. Thanks for posing the question.
Thanks John, that was another fascinating Fitting Fix vid and as often is the case utterly counter-intuitive. Incidentally, did you measure his before and after Swing Weight? PS I got fitted into a GEN2 XF 2 when they were first released and love it, the quality of the head is amazing after some pretty heavy use there isn't a mark on it anywhere - it still looks Brand new!
This one is so hard to pull off on camera as I found it to never be the same... best sounding driver this year I think has to go with the Srixon drivers...
I have the same Club and I removed all the weights because I like a lighter swing weight Great driver definitely a value and you really didn't talk about all the hosel adjustments more than any other club. I'm short and I was able to flatten out the LIE
Having a driver with weights in the toe are could help you keep the face open for sure the other thing is perhaps a little heavier swingweight could also help as it would also slow down the rate of rotation as well… but if I were to guess this likely just may come down to the top half of your body just outracing the bottom as this would be the number one thing that I will see that impacts most of my customers, so here just make sure the lower half is rotating to the target first then let the upper half follow…
@@SwingFit The driver is the only club I hook the ball with. Hit irons crisp and solid but the driver use to be an asset has became a liability. You saying maybe a heavier shaft ? Would weight tape on the heel help ? Current shaft HZDR black 62g 6.0 stiff in a Srixon z785 driver.
@@ariesnc6320 I would start with weight on the toe side, at a 3” piece at a time don’t worry about the looks as of now you just need to figure out if it works if it does then you can take it to a build so they can add hot melt on the inside. Keep the lead tape as the fitter would be able to weigh it to determine how much HM they need to add in the toe area.
@@SwingFit I just ordered this morning a new PXG 0811 proto driver with adilia 65 gram NXT NV green. 5 grams forward port, 7.5 in the toe, 2.5 in heel and back. 9 degree head.
I have been gaming the pxg proto and love it. I picked up a gen4 driver and now I struggle with hooking it as the head is lighter and there is no weight in the top. I choke up to add swing weight and it helps but if I get on it it goes left Any ideas of what I can do shaft is diamona black s 60
So couple of quick questions for you, what was the shaft you had in the proto, and do you remember how you had the weights configured in the bottom? One other note is when you choke down you actually make the SwingWeight lighter, but if it actually made it a little better then I’m going to suspect that the affect of making the club shorter was attributed to the lie angle becoming flatter. Have you also played around with the loft sleeve on this one just yet, if not I would try flipping the hosel 180 degrees from standard as this is Std loft -3 lie angle. Then I would try the little minus as that would open up the face a hair and also give you 2.5 degrees of lie flatness
@@SwingFit Thanks for the response. Since I am short I already play in 3 degrees flat. In my proto I got my best results with no weights and plus 1.5 on 9 degree head with 46 in Diamona black s 60 The gen 4 was set up with the same no weights and same 46" shaft and 3 degrees flat for most open face. I get better hits chocking up not down on the grip to add swing weight. I tried adding 15 gm weight to front to and to rear but it only seemed worse.. I do swing in to out but the light head weight I causing me to flip the club. I tried 3 two inche pieces of lead tape near to toe and it did help but I didn't really want lead tape on a new driver. I definitely like the gen 4 sound and it seems to have a larger sweet spot. I tried even going 1.5 degrees on loft but that didn't help a closing face. Only opening face at address seems to work but it's hard to be consistent getting the same set up each drive. Thx
What are your thoughts on proto v taylormade SIM. I have a the TM with a V2 stiff shaft . It works well. But not so good on miss hits. The reason I ask is I can now get a proto new with a smoke yellow for£249. Do you think it will be more stable.
If you spend a little time dialing in the weights it is a great driver. So you will need to get a weight pack and the ones they give you just won’t cut the mustard. Just remember put heavy weight in front of you need to bring launch and spin down, put it in the back for a little more forgiveness, and use the heel and toe weights to dial in curvature. Heavy weight in heel doesn’t always guarantee a draw, so if you try it here and see the opposite then swap the weight to the toe to se rid it’s better or worse. Hope this helped.
I would love to say that it would have caused launch and spin To increase but generally we never know until we try. But I will say moving the weights around In The PXG heads has a pretty profound impact
Very good question the one thing we noticed was that spin was getting lower and if we kept adding more weight it would have only gotten lower, well unless if we added it to the back port.? But SwingWeight would also get heavier. So might not be a bad idea to bring him back for a part two...😀
Generally I never like to go lower then 2000 for someone with a good neutral delivery if path stretches north of 6 in either direction then I would like spin to be closer to 2400 to protect against the horizontal axis tilt caused by the path and face relationship. Thanks for asking.
+ version is the more forgiving of the two drivers, it’s also designed for someone who has a tendency to hit up on the ball, and it will also generate a little more spin because it has a little more loft. So swingspeeds under 100 would likely be a good candidate for the + version. Whereas Swingspeeds north of 100 would be better suited for the lower lofted version. The weights in the driver simply allow you to fine tune the cg location to dial it in to match exactly what your delivery needs.
I just bought the head for $90 US on ebay. Already game pxg so I can pop my gamer shaft in. Pumped to customize it.
Heads are still so good and even better when you can find for this kind of price. Get your self a hand full of different size weights and start playing around with them.
This is great, as someone who loves TXG, the biggest compliment I can give is that this is on par with their work. Keep it up, and if you can figure out consent with your customers to show the process more drawn out, there is a market for that. Cheers!
Thanks for actually saying the numbers correctly! Only reviewer I’ve seen do it right
I sold my Gen 2 and bought the Gen 4 PXG 0811 X driver and took it to the range and course today. I was surprised how much better the Gen 4 is compared to the Gen 2. I can't say that it is longer with certainty because I had no ball monitor, but it did seem longer. It was certainly more consistent with better shot dispersion. I did order it with a 45" shaft whereas the Gen 2 was 45.5" so that helps accuracy. I was hitting with the middle of the sweet spot regularly, and that will give you more distance than a mishit with a longer shaft. It is 9* driver and I left the heaviest adjustment weight in the front, and I was surprised at the height I was getting - so no need to add loft. The Gen 4 head is 5 grams lighter than the Gen 2 and this is another factor that may be giving me more distance - lighter head can give you more swing speed. Lastly, I am using a counterbalanced shaft - Even Flow Riptide CB 60 gram and that can also increase ball speed. In summary, longer, straighter and the sound is good too.
Nicely done. Gotta say, "I love my Proto." It's long, forgiving and sounds great.
Great Video. I've watched many reviews of the PXG Proto driver and this is by far one of the best. My driver fitting is in three days and I'm glad to have seen this video prior.
Awesome feedback thanks, please feel free to share an update once the fitting has been completed...
very good video filled with a lot of good information
Thanks for the feedback and support
Absolute mega video!!
I took the 15g weight out from the front, and put a 10g in the heel, which has helped, but after watching this, I’ll pop along to a PXG demo day to dial it in further, and I’ll use the weights you done (hopefully it works just as well for me too)
I love this channel. Thanks for the info I self fitted my Proto + and weight kit and ended up with a similar set up here. Thank you bunches!
Do you still have your 0811 Proto driver ?
@@ariesnc6320 yes it’s my back up but go back to her from time to time. She is really solid and the best sound From any of the drivers I’ve tried and that list of drivers is a long one.
Incredible video brotha. You’re such a wealth of knowledge and right in my backyard. Love it!
Great video! I have the Proto + and the weight kit also and went with the heavy weight up front.
Wow .. Excellent video and explanation ... my test is approaching and I can’t wait to get my new 0811 driver and irons from PXG .. I’m now a subscriber.. cheers !!
Just bought one and a 3 wood. Got fit at pxg headquarters. Can’t wait to get it!
This fitting example was great. I need to tweak the same driver. With regard to the rollout, it looks like you are using GC Quad. Shots that hit the green seem to land really soft and that may have inadvertently lowered the total distance numbers. I'll bet if you moved that green back, the rollout would have been more. The ball didn't seem to have more height on it and change in backspin was minimal. Awesome stuff here. Just stumbled onto your channel. Hitting subscribe now.
Bought a new one for $200. Also got 2 7.5 g weights and a 10 and 5. Should be enough to get anything i need.
I have it set up for the big draw, but that may be too much. I don't need that much correction. I have a big fade (20 yards), but super consistent. If i can get 10 yards with low spin thats perfect.
With the long clubs very few pros play a straight ball. We want that 1 way miss.
Way to nail it brother! In ohio, carry is king due to soft conditions most of the year 👊
I bought a 0811 X+ for $325 just before the price increase to $375. It's been great so far. I went for an upcharge shaft at $300, so the total driver was $625, but still a great deal.
Absolutely, good deal thanks for sharing.
Love your videos,your a really intelligent club fitter,I wish you were local to los angeles,I would definitely see you.
Thanks bud truly appreciate the kind words. If you are ever in the area then don’t hesitate to look us up.
With that last setup what would be a nice hosel adjustment that wouldn't change the weight settings and give the same ball flight?
Great question none, at least from this fitting went. The customer needed weight. In regard to loft sleeves, they help but the single axis sleeves like ping, Taylormade,Cobra and PXG it’s always a double whammy you can’t just affect loft without also altering the lie angle. With that said Callaway and Titleist has the two best loft sleeves on the market…
Great video, I am curious which driver has been the longest you have tested to date?
The Gen 4 has been their longest model they produced to date for sure really really good.
This is exactly what I’m trying to do on my Gen 6 0311 9 degree driver… but my driver has only 3 weight ports , heel, toe and rear. Stock weights are 2 71/2 gr and a 1 21/2… got both 71/2 in heel and toe and 21/2 in rear, it’s good but I think it can be better. Fitter I worked with was not very helpful… would like to add more mass but with only 3 ports, don’t know how much weight and where to put it… my miss is also a little right would like a right to left… any advice would be greatly appreciated. Aloha from Hawaii 🏄🏽♂️🏌️♂️
So you will likely need to order a 12.5 and a 15 gram weight to fully see the benefit. But in the mean time here would be my suggestion. Move one of the 7.5 to the back and try it to see if it helps if it makes it worse than swap the 2.5 to the other side and retest. So basically you want the lightest weight in either the toe or heel. If this doesn’t work either than you don’t have enough weight and this is where a 10 or 15 would be a good option. And you would just replace one of the 7.5 weights with a heavier one. Hope this helps.
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So basically the finished product was an extra 2.5 grams in the toe vs what the customer brought in? My question would be...you think that toe weight would of made his right side miss a touch worse, but actually helped him draw it- how come? Was it just because the extra weight helped his timing and close the face and find the center contact or am I missing something?
Your spot on, sometimes I’ll have customers who will have a draw biased driver but can never draw the ball and as soon as I move the weight to the toe they all of a sudden can feel the mass and release the clubhead when they need to. It’s really crazy how it works out that way, and it’s just a testament that we all respond to feel and weight just a little different. Thanks for posing the question.
Sweet! I love this stuff. Did the strike pattern change much with the moves? Or was it mainly face angles?
It did change ever so slightly but only by 1-2 mm, but it was enough to sneak out a couple of more mph of ballspeed
Thanks John, that was another fascinating Fitting Fix vid and as often is the case utterly counter-intuitive.
Incidentally, did you measure his before and after Swing Weight?
PS I got fitted into a GEN2 XF 2 when they were first released and love it, the quality of the head is amazing after some pretty heavy use there isn't a mark on it anywhere - it still looks Brand new!
Thanks bud. D4 to D5.
@@SwingFit Thanks 👍
Would have loved to hear the impact sound you discussed
This one is so hard to pull off on camera as I found it to never be the same... best sounding driver this year I think has to go with the Srixon drivers...
I have the same Club and I removed all the weights because I like a lighter swing weight
Great driver definitely a value and you really didn't talk about all the hosel adjustments more than any other club. I'm short and I was able to flatten out the LIE
Wow!!
I’d love to be able to fade, lol. I am finding the left side of the golf course.
Having a driver with weights in the toe are could help you keep the face open for sure the other thing is perhaps a little heavier swingweight could also help as it would also slow down the rate of rotation as well… but if I were to guess this likely just may come down to the top half of your body just outracing the bottom as this would be the number one thing that I will see that impacts most of my customers, so here just make sure the lower half is rotating to the target first then let the upper half follow…
@@SwingFit The driver is the only club I hook the ball with. Hit irons crisp and solid but the driver use to be an asset has became a liability. You saying maybe a heavier shaft ? Would weight tape on the heel help ? Current shaft HZDR black 62g 6.0 stiff in a Srixon z785 driver.
@@ariesnc6320 I would start with weight on the toe side, at a 3” piece at a time don’t worry about the looks as of now you just need to figure out if it works if it does then you can take it to a build so they can add hot melt on the inside. Keep the lead tape as the fitter would be able to weigh it to determine how much HM they need to add in the toe area.
@@SwingFit I just ordered this morning a new PXG 0811 proto driver with adilia 65 gram NXT NV green. 5 grams forward port, 7.5 in the toe, 2.5 in heel and back. 9 degree head.
I have been gaming the pxg proto and love it. I picked up a gen4 driver and now I struggle with hooking it as the head is lighter and there is no weight in the top.
I choke up to add swing weight and it helps but if I get on it it goes left
Any ideas of what I can do
shaft is diamona black s 60
So couple of quick questions for you, what was the shaft you had in the proto, and do you remember how you had the weights configured in the bottom? One other note is when you choke down you actually make the SwingWeight lighter, but if it actually made it a little better then I’m going to suspect that the affect of making the club shorter was attributed to the lie angle becoming flatter. Have you also played around with the loft sleeve on this one just yet, if not I would try flipping the hosel 180 degrees from standard as this is Std loft -3 lie angle. Then I would try the little minus as that would open up the face a hair and also give you 2.5 degrees of lie flatness
@@SwingFit Thanks for the response.
Since I am short I already play in 3 degrees flat. In my proto I got my best results with no weights and plus 1.5 on 9 degree head with 46 in Diamona black s 60
The gen 4 was set up with the same no weights and same 46" shaft and 3 degrees flat for most open face. I get better hits chocking up not down on the grip to add swing weight. I tried adding 15 gm weight to front to and to rear but it only seemed worse.. I do swing in to out but the light head weight I causing me to flip the club. I tried 3 two inche pieces of lead tape near to toe and it did help but I didn't really want lead tape on a new driver. I definitely like the gen 4 sound and it seems to have a larger sweet spot. I tried even going 1.5 degrees on loft but that didn't help a closing face. Only opening face at address seems to work but it's hard to be consistent getting the same set up each drive.
Thx
What are your thoughts on proto v taylormade SIM. I have a the TM with a V2 stiff shaft . It works well. But not so good on miss hits. The reason I ask is I can now get a proto new with a smoke yellow for£249. Do you think it will be more stable.
If you spend a little time dialing in the weights it is a great driver. So you will need to get a weight pack and the ones they give you just won’t cut the mustard. Just remember put heavy weight in front of you need to bring launch and spin down, put it in the back for a little more forgiveness, and use the heel and toe weights to dial in curvature. Heavy weight in heel doesn’t always guarantee a draw, so if you try it here and see the opposite then swap the weight to the toe to se rid it’s better or worse. Hope this helped.
What do you think would have happened had you put the 15 g weight into the back end of the driver?
I would love to say that it would have caused launch and spin To increase but generally we never know until we try. But I will say moving the weights around In The PXG heads has a pretty profound impact
Trying to dial in my gen 5. Have you worked with one yet?
We are still waiting on our demos so unfortunately not.
Not available in left hand sadly. Waiting to see gen 4
So true, release should be just around the corner
How much weight would result in diminishing returns? Would there have been value in trying 17.5 in front or is it just ok much at that point?
Very good question the one thing we noticed was that spin was getting lower and if we kept adding more weight it would have only gotten lower, well unless if we added it to the back port.? But SwingWeight would also get heavier. So might not be a bad idea to bring him back for a part two...😀
@@SwingFit how much spin would too little for his swing speed?
Generally I never like to go lower then 2000 for someone with a good neutral delivery if path stretches north of 6 in either direction then I would like spin to be closer to 2400 to protect against the horizontal axis tilt caused by the path and face relationship. Thanks for asking.
@@SwingFit thanks for answering. Enjoy the content!
What is the difference between the PXG 0811X and PXG 0811X+, and how do you know which one you should look at?
+ version is the more forgiving of the two drivers, it’s also designed for someone who has a tendency to hit up on the ball, and it will also generate a little more spin because it has a little more loft. So swingspeeds under 100 would likely be a good candidate for the + version. Whereas Swingspeeds north of 100 would be better suited for the lower lofted version. The weights in the driver simply allow you to fine tune the cg location to dial it in to match exactly what your delivery needs.
Sigh, wish there was a Fitter like you guys where I'm from. Vancouver canada.. They don't compare in knowledge it seems compared to you guys.
Thanks for the kind words and support.
260 yards for less than 100 swing speed? Fantastic to me.
It was a pretty good result and the customer was for sure happy.