The Mystery of Anne Boleyn’s Engagement Ring: Anne Boleyn Artefacts

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • In today's video, I dive into an intriguing Tudor mystery sparked by a question from Chris Celsie about a ring supposedly given to Anne Boleyn by Henry VIII. This diamond ring was displayed at an exhibition in Toronto in 1994 as Anne's engagement ring. But did such a ring really exist?
    What We Know:
    Exhibition Clue: The Toronto Star article mentioned an engagement ring given to Anne Boleyn by Henry VIII.
    Historical Records: Engagement rings weren't a common tradition in Tudor times.
    Jewels for Anne: Henry VIII lavished jewels on Anne, with documented purchases and gifts.
    Historical Findings:
    Eric Ives' Biography: Details on Anne’s jewellery, including pieces set with diamonds and rubies.
    Holbein Designs: Jewellery designs by Hans Holbein the Younger featuring Anne and Henry’s intertwined initials.
    Inventory Lists: Items from Henry VIII’s inventory featuring the “HA” motif.
    Digging Deeper:
    Books and Research: No direct mention of a diamond engagement ring for Anne Boleyn.
    Lost Treasures: Many jewels given to Anne are now lost, including rings with the “HA” initials.
    Uncover the mystery with me as we explore the historical records, dive into the inventories, and piece together the story behind this enigmatic ring. Did Henry VIII give Anne Boleyn a diamond engagement ring, or is it a modern-day myth? Find out in this fascinating exploration of Tudor history and royal jewellery.
    #AnneBoleyn #TudorHistory #HistoricalMystery #EngagementRing #HenryVIII #Jewellery #HistoryRevealed #TudorArtefacts #OnThisDay #HistoryLovers

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  • @thehistory_student
    @thehistory_student 3 месяца назад +19

    Great question! I’ve often wondered if Tudor women wore engagement rings or not…🧐

  • @nancycampbell8671
    @nancycampbell8671 3 месяца назад +19

    I've read before that there were items with the initials "H" & "A" found in the inventory of Henry's things. Given the fact that he wanted all reminders of Anne, his second wife, obliterated, why do you think he held on to certain items?

    • @tessat338
      @tessat338 3 месяца назад +9

      I can only imagine that they were sent back to his secret jewel storage and shut up out of sight and mind in closed caskets. Henry certainly didn't look after the things in there himself. It's sad and kind of pathetic to think of all of those precious things tucked away somewhere, gathering dust after the ladies for whom they were crafted with such care were dead and gone.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +6

      He certainly didn't give orders for everything to be destroyed so perhaps he just overlooked these things personally. He must have had so many coffers of jewels in different places.

  • @philcrawford7760
    @philcrawford7760 3 месяца назад +22

    The Tudor history is fascinating

    • @cherrytraveller5915
      @cherrytraveller5915 3 месяца назад +3

      It is so amazing really. You don't actually need to twist history at all with that one. The truth is entertainment in itself

  • @Shane-Flanagan
    @Shane-Flanagan 3 месяца назад +13

    Thank you for highlighting this Claire 😊
    Not something thought of or really talked about, Anne Boleyn and the possibility of an engagement ring 💍
    Was it even a thing back then. I'm sure Henry gave Anne a ring or two as gifts but an engagement ring.....
    Not surprising that there is little on this as is often the case with Tudor history, Henry and Anne's actual wedding ceremony is abit shrouded. We know, it was done in secret but there are still conflicting dates for it. Do we even know where it took place, some undercroft and who exactly were present as witnesses.
    Interesting how nothing more about this 1994 exhibition besides the ad can be found. Was this diamond ring on display definitely verified as Anne's and if so where could it have gone.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +8

      I wonder if its provenance was dubious and subsequent investigation found that it wasn't linked at all to Anne.

    • @Shane-Flanagan
      @Shane-Flanagan 3 месяца назад +4

      @@anneboleynfiles That does sound likely

  • @maryarigho5868
    @maryarigho5868 3 месяца назад +8

    Would the Diamond Information Centre have any details about this exhibition?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +1

      Perhaps so, although it's quite a while ago now.

  • @gill8779
    @gill8779 3 месяца назад +2

    I once saw an item on ebay that was supposed to have been found in Kent & was a Tudor clothes fastener with AB on it. It was a long time ago, but I remember keeping my eye on it & it sold for a lot of money!

  • @Calla-sl8gd
    @Calla-sl8gd 3 месяца назад +10

    Hi Claire! Good video as always. I took a quick flip through the Power of Love book, but the only reference I saw regarding Henry VIII is the inscription in Anne of Cleves' ring; nothing about our Anne. It would have been lovely if she had had a ring and even better if it had found its way to Elizabeth. Thanks again for the video!

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +4

      It really would be lovely if it had existed and been given to Elizabeth.

    • @Calla-sl8gd
      @Calla-sl8gd 3 месяца назад +1

      @@anneboleynfiles Hi Claire! I've done some additional reading and looking around. I realize the primary sources may be silent on the issue of an engagement/wedding ring for Anne, but in looking at some of the paintings of the Tudors, there are rings all over the place. Two paintings got me wondering ~~ one of Elizabeth as a young lady holding a book and the other of her at her coronation. Between the two paintings, there are seven rings. I really want one of those rings to be one that belonged to her mother. Thanks again!

  • @cherrytraveller5915
    @cherrytraveller5915 3 месяца назад +24

    I thought engagement rings was always a modern concept

    • @obcl8569
      @obcl8569 3 месяца назад +9

      They've actually been around since ancient Roman times I believe!
      What IS indeed much more modern is EVERYONE wearing engagement rings. I think the concept of an engagement ring as an expected part of courtship for "the masses" (lol) became popular a couple of centuries ago at most.
      Betrothal rings for nobility, royalty, etc., though, have been around for millennia.

    • @wednesdayschild3627
      @wednesdayschild3627 3 месяца назад +4

      I thought poor people had iron rings. The diamonds were not engagement rings.

    • @dgcaz1
      @dgcaz1 3 месяца назад +9

      The Boston museum of fine arts in the 90's sold reproductions of medieval wedding or pledge rings. My husband and I used them as our wedding rings. It was a simple band engraved with posies and the inscription "vous et nul autre". They were beautiful.

    • @cherrytraveller5915
      @cherrytraveller5915 3 месяца назад

      @@obcl8569 I never spent time looking the subject up. Lack of interest on my part so I had never ever thought about the concept of an engagement ring till this point. Thank you for the history of the engagement rings. I do love history so it is always interesting to hear about a part I haven't discovered during my travels.

    • @obcl8569
      @obcl8569 3 месяца назад +3

      @@dgcaz1 omg I've seen this before!!!!! They are BEAUTIFUL rings & a very rare, random thing to have seen before & then encounter again in a RUclips comment!
      You and your husband sound like you share a beautiful love and excellent tastes 😊😁🏵️

  • @bridgetbarba4170
    @bridgetbarba4170 3 месяца назад +3

    This was interesting about AB jewerly. I always wondered what happened to her beloved jewels and where they went.

  • @deannawicks
    @deannawicks 3 месяца назад +6

    From Quora,it mentions a gold and sapphire wedding ring given to Anne Boleyn ,that had an engraving of the kings image😻🏵️

  • @alancumming6407
    @alancumming6407 3 месяца назад +4

    This was a really intriguing question from Chris. Perhaps, following this broadcast, someone might be able to furnish some more information. Many thanks Claire for another fascinating vlog.

  • @dorothywillis1
    @dorothywillis1 3 месяца назад +3

    I doubt Anne had an engagement ring. As you say, engagement rings were not customary back then. Is the store where the exhibit was held still in business? If it is, it might have some records of what the exhibits were.

  • @maryannjordan8143
    @maryannjordan8143 3 месяца назад +4

    I adore jewelry from this period, so intricate, so detailed, it’s amazing to me. Great video.

  • @centurycountess4949
    @centurycountess4949 3 месяца назад +3

    I always had a curious questions and I thought the best place to ask was here. this was 20 years ago when I was 16 and it's been in my mind all this time. I use to go on Flickr a lot they had some gorgoeus Tudor costumes and artifacts from the 16th century but there was one item I was always curious about. No details on the Flickr info that I can remember but it was a very small I guess your could say brooch size item that had a lock of hair that was said to have been from one of the 6th wives of Henry viii. and was curious if such an item actually exists/existed or was it possibly a fake ?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +2

      I've seen the lock of hair that was taken from Catherine Parr's tomb and which is on display at Sudeley Castle, and then I think there's also one from Mary Tudor, Queen of France, Henry VIII's sister, too.

  • @sandfly60
    @sandfly60 3 месяца назад +2

    Are there no records of the exhibition at the gallery or museum in question?

  • @cheryalhussain975
    @cheryalhussain975 3 месяца назад +3

    This a great mystery and very entertaining topic. My brother-in-laws wife is British and upon asking about my engagement jewelry, she phrased it like this, did you receive a broach or other piece? So this topic of an engagement ring in Tudor society may imply it was as you say an assortment of jewelry as bethrol gifts.

  • @pheart2381
    @pheart2381 3 месяца назад +6

    Not sure how I would feel about a romantic gift of an ear scoop.
    When this ear scoop thee use,my love
    Think well of me...❤❤

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +5

      But a pistol shaped one!

    • @Odanti
      @Odanti 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@anneboleynfiles
      LMAO!!!
      ❤️🙏❤️

  • @tammieswindells5333
    @tammieswindells5333 3 месяца назад +3

    This is very cool information ,,thank you ❤

  • @stannieholt8766
    @stannieholt8766 3 месяца назад +3

    I like that clever little gold multi-tool.

  • @NYCEllieMonster
    @NYCEllieMonster 3 месяца назад +3

    What a mystery! Thank you for sharing the whistle, Claire! Now I'd like to know more about the box and all the treasures it housed too. Thanks for the wonderful video.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +2

      The inventory is fascinating.

    • @NYCEllieMonster
      @NYCEllieMonster 3 месяца назад +1

      @@anneboleynfiles Oh Claire! Could this be an idea for another video?! Have you seen it in person?!! 🤯

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +2

      @@NYCEllieMonster the inventory? No, but I have David Starkey's transcript of it, it's huge.

    • @NYCEllieMonster
      @NYCEllieMonster 3 месяца назад +1

      @@anneboleynfiles I will look this up immediately! Thank you!

  • @greybeardcanadian1036
    @greybeardcanadian1036 2 месяца назад

    Its kept here in a secret vault and only Toronto residents are allowed to see ii! (or maybe I made that up)

  • @fizzie.lizzzie
    @fizzie.lizzzie 3 месяца назад

    Very interesting! Thank you!

  • @purrdiggle1470
    @purrdiggle1470 3 месяца назад +1

    Any truth to the rumor that Henry had it engraved, "On loan" ?

  • @tsugima6317
    @tsugima6317 3 месяца назад +1

    I thought they did betrothal rings...

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад

      They weren't a standard thing, but some people did give rings.

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 2 месяца назад

    Very interesting

  • @sassytbc7923
    @sassytbc7923 3 месяца назад +2

    Did Tudor women wear wedding rings? If so which hand/finger?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +4

      It wasn't that common, but we know that Anne of Cleves gave her wedding ring back to Henry VIII, and I believe that those who did have them wore them on the fourth finger of their left hand.

    • @sassytbc7923
      @sassytbc7923 3 месяца назад +1

      @@anneboleynfiles thanks Claire..for replying and for all you do.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +1

      @@sassytbc7923 it's a pleasure! Thank you for your support.

    • @Odanti
      @Odanti 3 месяца назад

      ​@@anneboleynfilesWould that be the little finger or index finger?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +1

      It actually means what we'd call the ring finger, the one next to the little finger.

  • @robinmiric2027
    @robinmiric2027 3 месяца назад

    What a lovely chat: fascinating! Robin x

  • @mandygray764
    @mandygray764 3 месяца назад +1

    That was very interesting

  • @philcrawford7760
    @philcrawford7760 3 месяца назад

    I like Eric Ives

  • @lornocford6482
    @lornocford6482 3 месяца назад +1

    That whistle pendant looks like it had to be private. Surely, she didn't actually wear that in public.

    • @darianrose2195
      @darianrose2195 3 месяца назад +2

      Anne was fond of dogs, a whistle necklace would be perfect for a walk or play out in a garden or field.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +2

      I don't see why not. The bits all fold away so it would just be a gold pistol.

    • @lornocford6482
      @lornocford6482 3 месяца назад

      @@anneboleynfiles because it's very phallic.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +2

      @@lornocford6482 really?

  • @mzeewatk846
    @mzeewatk846 3 месяца назад +1

    I heard that Anne Boleyn had six fingers on each hand, and there was a clerical debate before the wedding about which finger Henry should put her wedding ring on. I think I read that in a book somewhere.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +4

      There's absolutely no contemporary evidence for Anne having an extra finger - ruclips.net/video/WXeGSaHf85Y/видео.html

    • @darianrose2195
      @darianrose2195 3 месяца назад +4

      A fiction, surely. When her remains were exhumed, it was noted that among the remaining bones were ten perfectly formed fingers that were somewhat long. We don't even need to look to contemporary accounts of her, we can turn to her bones.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +2

      @@darianrose2195 some people don't believe those were Anne's remains though.

    • @darianrose2195
      @darianrose2195 3 месяца назад

      @@anneboleynfiles Fair

    • @peggygraham6129
      @peggygraham6129 3 месяца назад +2

      Just a silly untrue rumour spread by her enemies.

  • @LD-tk7qf
    @LD-tk7qf 3 месяца назад +1

    Does anyone really care?!?!!! Probably not

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  3 месяца назад +4

      You did enough to comment.

    • @LD-tk7qf
      @LD-tk7qf 3 месяца назад

      @@anneboleynfiles it was a polite way to say your video sucks