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One of the gimmick matches I laughed pretty hard at was the chamber of horror match in WCW. Watching Abdullah the Butcher getting "executed" on that electric chair was pretty comical
Scaffold matches, to me, worked the same way as a blindfold match. It felt very limited on what the competitors could do up there, plus it was really dangerous too.
I completely agree. I love the idea of the double cage gimmicks... both of those matches looked so fuckin cool. IMO the main problem with both of these was the bigger wrestlers they had in them. Should have been some high flyers in there!
@@InsomniacRocker I'd argue the main issue of the Kennel match were the dogs. Should've just been "themed" on a "kennel" and then been a bloody hardcore brawl through the structure.
@@InsomniacRocker The other issue with the Prison match in particular is how hard it was to see into it, especially for the live crowd. Great concept on paper, but not so great in practice.
You know, Dustin Rhodes being fired for the King of the Road match turned out to be a blessing in disguise, since not too long afterwards, he would become Goldust.
@@skyatollah2skyharder276 what's really interesting about Dustin Rhodes' career. how he debuted as Dusty's boring ass son(and tag partner), to GOLDUST, back to Dusty's boring ass son (who prayed for his opponent), back to Goldust (who wrestled a match as DustyDust).
I recently learned that the Punjabi Prison Match’s rules are so excessive because when they were developing the first one for GAB ‘06, they figured out the finish then worked backwards from there to make the rules. Apparently Pat Patterson and Undertaker spent a week brainstorming ideas, just tossing out whatever popped into their heads, and that’s how they came up with the whole “doors that only open once for 60 seconds” thing.
I did have this one idea for a gimmick match I kind of wanted to float by someone in the industry, see what they made of it. Basically, it's a variaton on the 2/3 falls or Iron Man multifall concept. In order to win the match, you have to score two falls *in a row* over your opponent. Not got a name for it, but it does sound like something that could invite interesting psychology.
@@henri6207 The idea I had in my head was that it would be inspired by tennis in kayfabe, so that could work. Imagine a pair of wrestlers have been trading wins, and the authority figure comes out and compares it to watching a tennis match. He wants them to have a definitive win, once and for all and sets this up.
I think there’s potential. You could have a situation where a heel intentionally gets disqualified for the first fall using a low blow because he knows his opponent can’t get the second fall to capitalize. Perhaps the heel even gets a fall to reset the deuce. So you keep having situations where both wrestlers can trade falls via DQ to further hurt the opponent
An issue I see with this match type is that the person who losses the first fall would never have a chance to take the lead (while still continuing the match) because taking the lead after losing the first fall would mean instantly winning. Once the first fall happens, the winner of the first fall will always be up a fall or tied (until the match ends) and other competitor will always be down a fall or tied (until the match ends). There would never be an opportunity for the competitors to switch being up/down a fall (without the match instantly ending once the switch happens). And easy fix for this “Two Wins in a Row” match problem would be a “Win By Two” match (like tennis). Though when I say “fix” that is assuming what I just described as a problem is even a problem that needs fixing. What I just described as a problem could be exactly what you intended from your match type.
I feel like this match can only work if it’s a feud ender. Like having both wrestlers keep trading wins week after week, PPV after PPV and it’s a pattern where they’re so equal that they can’t be better than the other. The winner not only will get to pin them twice but prove for sure that they are better than the other wrestler
3 terrible gimmick matches come to mind for a future video: 1. Human Torch match from Great American Bash 2000. 2. 'Boxing match' in general (If I had to choose one, maybe Mr.T vs. Roddy Piper. 3. Wyatt Swamp match from Extreme Rules 2020.
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Honorable mentions: 1. San Francisco 49ers match between Booker T and Jeff Jarrett 2. Shark Cage match. There has only been one match of this type and that was back in the 70s Big Time Wrestling promotion between Jay Strongbow and Don Kent. 3. WCW Chamber of Horrors match 4. Bungee Cord match from Global Wrestling Federation between Chaz and Steven Dane. 5. Any match where the goal is to remove your opponent's clothes (Tuxedo match, evening gown match, Bra and panties match) 6. Any of Vince Russo's pole matches 7. Last Rites match from TNA between Sting and Abyss.
@@michaelward5370 Same with Rick Martel! He also got the crowd riled up! While the whole match was at the end of the Jake has been blinded by the arrogance perfume, a non gimmick match between those two would have been much better, at least as far as I am concerned.
@@exilhamburger4802, agreed! I think Rick Martel was really good at being a heel, and you're right, a straight up match between the two of them would've been awesome!
They did the same match in NWA years earlier with Jimmy Garvin and Kevin Sullivan. Think there was also one in WCCW with Chris Adams. If the babyface is really over, the heel is really sneaky, and the match is fairly short, then the crowd gets into it, and it works. After that, it should not be attempted by anyone anywhere for 10 years.
Kingston got robbed of an iconic moment in that sparklers match. But he's got plenty of iconic moments ahead of him, and all the best wrestlers have their unintentionally hilarious clips.
The Roberts and Martel match made sense. Martel blinded Jake with his arrogence spray. So Jake was like since I was blind you have to be blind too for our match.
Kenny recently revealed on Renee Paquette's podcast that the pyro was working fine for the practices but then someone from the pyro company changed it all without telling anyone at the last moment.
Honestly, I think Triple H vs D-Lo Brown was the best example of a blindfold match you can really get. You get both guys doing all of the expected comedy spots, followed by HHH cheating by sneaking a peek & getting the win. Short & perfectly performed, though when it happened (late 2002) is definitely the shocker.
Yes, all they had to do is to simplify the rules, like instead of the doors opening for those god darn 60 seconds, if wrestlers have to manually open the door which is heavy and try to escape that, and if one escapes, another would be locked and he'll have to break the cage or escape by the smaller spaces of the first bamboo cages
@@EmperorGoliaththeEverliving That's usually how it goes with "specialty matches"; the opponent is the one who is usually booked to win, to put over their skill and ability to even or beat the odds.
One way they could have made the Chairs match work is combine it with Last Man Standing by rendering your opponent unconscious especially using a chair but place them in a sat down position in a chair for a count of 10 to win
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From the reliving the war video the other week - the Stone Cold v Kane "First Blood" match where they blatantly ignore that Austin is bleeding from his lower back just so they can get to the pre-booked ending.
Interesting fact about the WM7 blindfold match: If you pay close attention, you'll see that the blindfolds are gimmicked. When they're putting the blindfold on Jake, you can see his hands through the mesh on the eye holes.
Hahahha... You could have a meat raffle PPV where every winner wins a ticket for a big meat raffle at the end (older UK fans might get this at least!).. Give the whole night a working man's club vibe... Dig out some of Monsoon's old suits for the comms and ring announcers.... Have badly sung renditions of all the ring themes...... Get some fat middle-aged barmaids in as ring-girls........ BOOK IT!!!
As per stats, Great Khali was a bigger draw than Jinder Mahal, in ratings and popularity, he won a Slammy too... Cant wait for Reliving the War episode featuring the infamous Yamaguchi san's *Choppe Choppe PeePee* line
I don’t recall the buildup to the Zombie Lumberjack match, but it could work. Imagine the most obnoxious heel (ok, Miz, check), and it’s revealed in storyline that he has an irrational fear of zombies, possibly from watching movies as a child or something. So the baby face challenges the cocky heel to a lumberjack match, but he gets to pick the lumberjacks… the heel accepts, and the baby face announces that the zombies will serve as lumberjacks. They aren’t portrayed as real zombies, but everyone winks at the idea that they really are zombies just for the benefit of terrorizing the heel. Someone could’ve made this work at some point.
The Doomsday Cage match reminds me of the cage used in the movie Ready To Rumble, when Jimmy King dropped DDP through the cage all the way down to the ring. If that happened in real life, he'd be dead.
Might be unpopular, especially with the hardcore/Deathmatch fans, but... I'd just put any of those "Explosives (as in C4 and so on)" match types on this list. Dangerous and stupid. And if the final explosion gets blown, like in the AEW match, it's not even a visual moment.
I'm surprised not to see that inferno match from Japan where everything went wrong, fire too big and hot, no oxygen, wrestlers almost dieing. I can't remember but didn't the arena also get set on fire?
That's because no canvas barbed wire ropes & fire deathmatches have been done a pair of times in the following years, with better successes (well, the amount of fire has been reduced for safety purposes)
Scaffold match (GAB 1991), Chamber of Horrors (Halloween Havoc 91), Coal Miners Glove match (Halloween Havoc 92), Double Jeopardy match (November to Remember 2000), Last Rites match (Destination X 2007), Eye for an Eye (the Horror Show at Extreme Rules) come to mind.
The Last Rites could have been done better. Well, they just could have get rid of that coffin and use the "put the opponent in a hearse to win" stipulation: it would have been easier and it would have been more entertaining
Battle Royale: Wrestlers in a ring throwing others out. What first comes to mind when a Reverse Battle Royale is bought up: Wrestlers outside a ring throwing others in. It never needed to be that complicated.
Correction chairs match made official because of the hardy, Dudley and edge/christian 3 way tag match. The Dudley's had tables. The Hardy's had ladders. Edge and Christian needed something.
Since you talked about the """""Electrified""""" Steel Cage Match i'm surprised you didn't also talk about the Last Rites match from TNA Destination X 2007.
Scaffold Matches. There's no match type as limiting for the Talent as Scaffold Matches. Even the King of the Road Match and the Steiner Asylum Matches, imo, have at least a bit more options for the Wrestlers to work with, so if you include those (and especially the Asylum Matches for how limiting that already was), than you have to include Scaffold Matches as well.
Before the blindfold match at Wrestlemania 7, there's a shot of the guys adjusting their blindfolds and you can clearly see their hands through the mesh eye holes.
You'd think they could've just done the old "well, the opponent has to be *thrown* out of the ring to lose the match, therefore the match is still going" spiel to recover from the last one
WCW was never really that quick on the draw. I always wondered why they even bothered to cover the Savage elimination at RR '92. That was totally in character for him, the match had more than enough star power, and there were no big spots later in the match that he was involved in.
The Bret/Lawler "kiss my foot" match & the Kid/Ramon diaper match take honorable mention. The Punjabi structure looked awesome but after seeing clips of it, things just didn't look well-thought out. The Dustin/Bully match on the 18 wheeler had that Mad Max Road Warrior feel, but even professional stuntmen/women would have had a hard time pulling that off believably
In the case of the first two matches, the gimmicky part comes after em, it's not their core. Btw some of em could be improved: - a bigger cage for the Steiner asylum which includes all of the ring (the absence of ropes is ok to me with that stipulation) - do the King of the Road match while the truck is not moving - well, do like Zona 23 for the Junkyard Invitational
I appreciate when you let us know things like “last time we will see bart Gunn on reliving the war” and “highest rating wcw will receive for the remainder of the war”. Helps put things into perspective. Also, Norman smiley shirt!!!!
That stairs weight has reduced drastically since the Attitude era. I remember Kane once lifting them and JR saying they weighed over 500lbs. Stair technology must have come some way since those days.
@@fergalstackstreams True. But it also ended with the loser not even doing what the stipulation forced him to do, thus it being a waste of time. (Plus the name itself was lame)
Have you done your take on the best or successful gimmick matches video?! If not, that would be a good video as well, I know it's something I would watch.
The kennel from hell is worse than the zombie match. The zombie match was dumb, but at least there’s a decent match in the middle of it, and it doesn’t have dogs pooping all over the place.
I have always thought about how you can make a chairs match more unique. But every idea I have always felt sorta redundant. Like, my first idea was if the goal was to break a gimmicked chair on your opponent. Like, you have a special chair that if it hits the opponent in a certain way, it “completely shatters” and that counts as a win. I felt this has potential as it allows the competitors to still fight over the chair but still allow the match to end in a unique and unpredictable way. For example, a wrestler could set up a situation where they could hit the chair or perform a DDT or something so the chair breaks. But at that point, wouldn’t a tables match be better? Another was you had to use the chair to make your opponent give up. Remember that one time Bob Holly used a chair to choke out Big Show? Imagine if that was a match type? But then, wouldn’t it be a modified I Quit Match?
I also have an idea, among other chairs, there will be a one and only throne type chair, on which wrestlers have to sit on to earn points like in ironman match. wrestlers can also use other chairs to fight but they'll have to use throne to earn points and win the match, it can be name something like, Throne match?
@@HyperAshhPlays the worry I have is that could stall the pace of the match if done poorly. But it could work as an inverted last man standing match. I can see the value there. Like, people complain that last man standing matches can have awkward pacing as an opponent gets knocked down and then get up before the count thereby wasting a lot of time and not really progressing the match. Whereas at least a failed pin attempt is between 1-2 seconds and has the kayfabe of Tiring out the defending wrestler. So a Thrones match could work that even if a downed wrestler gets up after a 9 count, it ends up mattering now because it gives their opponent 9 points or something depending on how long they sit. Downed Wrestlers would be encouraged to get up quicker while the attacker would be encouraged to stay alert and rack up points. I can also imagine the following spots: Heel intentionally places the throne over the face so the face has to extent more time and energy to get up and remove the throne. Giving the heel more points. Heel sets a trap for the face. Maybe holding a kendo stick or something. So as the face approaches a sitting heel, the heel attacks face with a stick to give heel more points. Heel gets an early advantage in points, then hides or makes the throne unavailable for some time. So even when the face eventually makes a comeback, the time it takes face to recover the throne allows heel to recover and retain their points’ advantage.
Vince Russo " bro bro listen ! A contract on a pole first blood iron man lumber Jack loser leaves town hair vs hair strap match in which the winner wins via count out and then turns heel in a shoot work shoot promo"
I enjoyed the Jake vs Model blindfold match. I thought it was a lot of fun. Of course, I was a kid at the time so I legit thought they were blindfolded and that it was all real LOL.
Same actually and I still like that match only blindfold match I like. I think it worked for that time . I noticed my older family members liked it to so maybe that connection is contributing to my bias but it was fine for that time.
4:30 I was 5 years old in 1979 and for some reason I swore for many years afterwards that I saw something like this on World Of Sport at that time - a "Round The Ring" tournament where all the matches took place down on the ringside area and the matches lasted as long as it took the two wrestlers to complete one circuit around the ring. I guess I dreamed it. I was only 5.
Best way I would describe the Doomsday Cage, is a beat ‘em up video match. Someone at Turner Broadcast must’ve played Streets of Rage or Turtle in Time
Where's the Kaboom...? There was supposed to be an Earth shattering Kaboom!? -My response to the AEW Barbed Wire Death Match and the lack of explosions
Awesome stuff. By the way, what's the song that starts upon introduction of WCW Junkyard Match (15:56)? I've heard it multiple times in your past videos, but I don't think I've heard it in any WCW or WWF shows. Is it maybe a custom mix?
If I were going to book an electric cage match I sure as hell wouldn't use jumper cables and a battery. When I was a teenager I had a German Shepherd who loved jumping over our fence. My grandpa got an electric wire that went across the top of the fence. I accidentally touched it once and got a surprise. It wasn't a dangerous electrocution or anything like that but it did let me know I don't want to touch that wire again. It felt like a mild stun but would have been a deterrent enough to stay away from it. I think they could have done something like that safely because the voltage wasn't high enough to cause any damage.
Bucky bottle on a pole match. It was wild drunken and rainy Wrestlemania Sunday night in Glasgow, Scotland...2 best friends decided to duke it out in a living room with more classic finishers than a full1998 PPV. One man ended up with an egg shaped lump on his head...it was not me
The best thing about it was the Kevin Kelly/Mick Foley commentary from a DVD... "Let's say the rottweilers are mating. They could give birth to a litter of 12-13 right here in the arena. We could have as many as two or three dozen rottweilers here in this Kennel from Hell Match!"
I'm pretty sure Sandman had used Hack as a name pre-WCW (maybe even pre-ECW) because a lot of wrestlers you'd guess would call him Sandman (or James) because they were in ECW together refer to him as Hack in shoot interviews
The Blind Fold match between vJake Roberts and Rick Martel was based on when Martel blinded Jake with the Arrogance and Jake was "blind" for a few months. It made since for the feud to end in a blindfold match.
Surprised the Orton/Wyatt match at Wyatt's house wasn't on the list. Match had to take place at Wyatt's house but end in the ring (?), and when Orton got there the house was LOCKED (???).
The pitch black match from Royal Rumble this year, literally just a normal match but all you can see is glow in the dark stuff and not the actual wrestling
I actually feel like World War 3 would work a lot better these days; the biggest problem with it was the fact that the 3-way picture-in-picture TV format of the matches would wind up leaving the action too small and grainy to really make out much on TVs of the time, but here in the widescreen HDTV era, those issues would be mostly if not completely eradicated.
2 different occasions i wondered why i stopped watching wrestling it was seeing zombies that reminded me...the zombie from wwe's ecw and the zombie lumberjack match...
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@@marco31 Look at the adjective: "Play."
Hilarious 😂
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That only happened when the NWO wasn’t involved lol
One of the gimmick matches I laughed pretty hard at was the chamber of horror match in WCW. Watching Abdullah the Butcher getting "executed" on that electric chair was pretty comical
i love that he was then totally fine after the match and even attacked the ghoul orderlies
A man got executed on ppv, and everyone just kinda let it happen.
And then he woke up 30 seconds later and kicked a ring crew member in the head 😂
When I was a kid I LOVED THAT MATCH!
i was gonna say that one
Scaffold matches, to me, worked the same way as a blindfold match. It felt very limited on what the competitors could do up there, plus it was really dangerous too.
Cornette taking that scaffold fall makes me cringe.
New Jack and Vic Grimes
@@ferox965 Blew out both of his knees on that landing.
Pretty much any Bray Wyatt themed gimmick match. Spooky projections on the ring!
The one with John Cena was okay. That pitch black match though...oof
Firefly Funhouse Match is one of my all-time top 10.
The Firefly Funhouse match where he basically gave two middle fingers to the 4th wall and picked John Cena's character apart was a damn good match.
The one with John was good but like most of his matches in general post day Mercer gimmick was overrated aka anything as the fiend.
The "cage in a cage" idea seemed so good until ya know it actually happened in both the Kennel from Hell and the Punjabi Prison.
I completely agree. I love the idea of the double cage gimmicks... both of those matches looked so fuckin cool. IMO the main problem with both of these was the bigger wrestlers they had in them. Should have been some high flyers in there!
@@InsomniacRocker I'd argue the main issue of the Kennel match were the dogs. Should've just been "themed" on a "kennel" and then been a bloody hardcore brawl through the structure.
@@InsomniacRocker The other issue with the Prison match in particular is how hard it was to see into it, especially for the live crowd. Great concept on paper, but not so great in practice.
It sounds like something you really wanna see, until you remember one tiny flaw: you can't.
You know, Dustin Rhodes being fired for the King of the Road match turned out to be a blessing in disguise, since not too long afterwards, he would become Goldust.
After the way he was used in wwe as golddust not really
To be fair, his wwe run in the 2010s was better.
@@mikemccoy5092 Uhhhh, yes it was. Dude would be Dusty's boring ass son if not for being Goldust. Goldust made him a legend in his own right.
@@skyatollah2skyharder276 what's really interesting about Dustin Rhodes' career. how he debuted as Dusty's boring ass son(and tag partner), to GOLDUST, back to Dusty's boring ass son (who prayed for his opponent), back to Goldust (who wrestled a match as DustyDust).
@@dr.snakes you forgot his Black Reign persona in TNA and his work in AEW as Dustin Rhodes though you made a good list fren.
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I recently learned that the Punjabi Prison Match’s rules are so excessive because when they were developing the first one for GAB ‘06, they figured out the finish then worked backwards from there to make the rules. Apparently Pat Patterson and Undertaker spent a week brainstorming ideas, just tossing out whatever popped into their heads, and that’s how they came up with the whole “doors that only open once for 60 seconds” thing.
I have some love for the Robert's vs. Martel blindfold match because it was on the first show that I ever watched.
I did have this one idea for a gimmick match I kind of wanted to float by someone in the industry, see what they made of it.
Basically, it's a variaton on the 2/3 falls or Iron Man multifall concept. In order to win the match, you have to score two falls *in a row* over your opponent.
Not got a name for it, but it does sound like something that could invite interesting psychology.
A Duece Match? That's what that's called I'm Tennis I think
@@henri6207 The idea I had in my head was that it would be inspired by tennis in kayfabe, so that could work. Imagine a pair of wrestlers have been trading wins, and the authority figure comes out and compares it to watching a tennis match. He wants them to have a definitive win, once and for all and sets this up.
I think there’s potential. You could have a situation where a heel intentionally gets disqualified for the first fall using a low blow because he knows his opponent can’t get the second fall to capitalize. Perhaps the heel even gets a fall to reset the deuce.
So you keep having situations where both wrestlers can trade falls via DQ to further hurt the opponent
An issue I see with this match type is that the person who losses the first fall would never have a chance to take the lead (while still continuing the match) because taking the lead after losing the first fall would mean instantly winning. Once the first fall happens, the winner of the first fall will always be up a fall or tied (until the match ends) and other competitor will always be down a fall or tied (until the match ends). There would never be an opportunity for the competitors to switch being up/down a fall (without the match instantly ending once the switch happens).
And easy fix for this “Two Wins in a Row” match problem would be a “Win By Two” match (like tennis). Though when I say “fix” that is assuming what I just described as a problem is even a problem that needs fixing. What I just described as a problem could be exactly what you intended from your match type.
I feel like this match can only work if it’s a feud ender. Like having both wrestlers keep trading wins week after week, PPV after PPV and it’s a pattern where they’re so equal that they can’t be better than the other. The winner not only will get to pin them twice but prove for sure that they are better than the other wrestler
3 terrible gimmick matches come to mind for a future video:
1. Human Torch match from Great American Bash 2000.
2. 'Boxing match' in general (If I had to choose one, maybe Mr.T vs. Roddy Piper.
3. Wyatt Swamp match from Extreme Rules 2020.
How has nobody brought up the Electric steel cage match between the Dudleys and LAX in TNA?
@@billhicks808 go to 19:30
@@xbigwormx gotcha, thanx.. but I meant mostly in the comments.
One of my favorite things about Wrestling Bios is even if he's talked about something in another video at length, he doesn't just tell you what that upload is and move on. A true master in making each of his videos (other than reliving the war of course) at making videos unique even if he has to tell the same moments multiple times.
Honorable mentions:
1. San Francisco 49ers match between Booker T and Jeff Jarrett
2. Shark Cage match. There has only been one match of this type and that was back in the 70s Big Time Wrestling promotion between Jay Strongbow and Don Kent.
3. WCW Chamber of Horrors match
4. Bungee Cord match from Global Wrestling Federation between Chaz and Steven Dane.
5. Any match where the goal is to remove your opponent's clothes (Tuxedo match, evening gown match, Bra and panties match)
6. Any of Vince Russo's pole matches
7. Last Rites match from TNA between Sting and Abyss.
1. The Scott Hall bit from that match still cracks me up
Alright, wanted to make sure if someone didn't mention the Sting VS Abyss Last Rites Match, aka The Fire Russo Match before I did. 😉
Countdown To Armageddon, WCW's one-time lame attempt at Royal Rumble
In all fairness, the blindfold match between Jake and Martel makes total storyline sense.
Yeah, it was part of the storyline where Rick Martel had blinded Jake The Snake Roberts with his Arrogance fragrance spray! Good story!!
The way they worked the match worked too in that era.... If only Jake hadn't ruined it for the TV audience before the bell. LOL
@@michaelward5370 They did a great job with Jake's eye too. :)
Well, technically also the Storm vs Harris one did
I felt Jake and Martel made their match work because the crowd was into it bell to bell any other blindfold matches couldn’t recreate that magic
Michael Busciacco, totally agree! Jake Roberts was a total legend and could pull anything off back in the day!
@@michaelward5370 Same with Rick Martel! He also got the crowd riled up! While the whole match was at the end of the Jake has been blinded by the arrogance perfume, a non gimmick match between those two would have been much better, at least as far as I am concerned.
@@exilhamburger4802, agreed! I think Rick Martel was really good at being a heel, and you're right, a straight up match between the two of them would've been awesome!
They did the same match in NWA years earlier with Jimmy Garvin and Kevin Sullivan. Think there was also one in WCCW with Chris Adams. If the babyface is really over, the heel is really sneaky, and the match is fairly short, then the crowd gets into it, and it works. After that, it should not be attempted by anyone anywhere for 10 years.
Kingston got robbed of an iconic moment in that sparklers match. But he's got plenty of iconic moments ahead of him, and all the best wrestlers have their unintentionally hilarious clips.
The Roberts and Martel match made sense. Martel blinded Jake with his arrogence spray. So Jake was like since I was blind you have to be blind too for our match.
Hunter Hearst Hemsley vs h.o.g. Arkansas pig pen match😂
Kenny recently revealed on Renee Paquette's podcast that the pyro was working fine for the practices but then someone from the pyro company changed it all without telling anyone at the last moment.
Honestly, I think Triple H vs D-Lo Brown was the best example of a blindfold match you can really get. You get both guys doing all of the expected comedy spots, followed by HHH cheating by sneaking a peek & getting the win. Short & perfectly performed, though when it happened (late 2002) is definitely the shocker.
Punjabi cage match could of been a great gimmick match, but the overthinking of the concept is what killed it.
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And actually booked Khali to win them.
It was allegedly his best type of match, but he never won any of them.
Yes, all they had to do is to simplify the rules, like instead of the doors opening for those god darn 60 seconds, if wrestlers have to manually open the door which is heavy and try to escape that, and if one escapes, another would be locked and he'll have to break the cage or escape by the smaller spaces of the first bamboo cages
@@EmperorGoliaththeEverliving That's usually how it goes with "specialty matches"; the opponent is the one who is usually booked to win, to put over their skill and ability to even or beat the odds.
The missed back body drop in the blindfolded match was pure gold
One way they could have made the Chairs match work is combine it with Last Man Standing by rendering your opponent unconscious especially using a chair but place them in a sat down position in a chair for a count of 10 to win
Then what are they going to call that stipulation? Tired man match😅😝?
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I went to a world war 3 match in Michigan, and it was terrible. I couldn’t even tell what was happening.
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From the reliving the war video the other week - the Stone Cold v Kane "First Blood" match where they blatantly ignore that Austin is bleeding from his lower back just so they can get to the pre-booked ending.
I think the blindfold match between Jake the snake and Martel was decent. And made since at the time
Interesting fact about the WM7 blindfold match: If you pay close attention, you'll see that the blindfolds are gimmicked. When they're putting the blindfold on Jake, you can see his hands through the mesh on the eye holes.
I saw the AWA Turkey on a Pole match on cable TV back in the day.
That gimmick exemplifies the AWA to me.
Hahahha... You could have a meat raffle PPV where every winner wins a ticket for a big meat raffle at the end (older UK fans might get this at least!).. Give the whole night a working man's club vibe... Dig out some of Monsoon's old suits for the comms and ring announcers.... Have badly sung renditions of all the ring themes...... Get some fat middle-aged barmaids in as ring-girls........ BOOK IT!!!
As per stats, Great Khali was a bigger draw than Jinder Mahal, in ratings and popularity, he won a Slammy too...
Cant wait for Reliving the War episode featuring the infamous Yamaguchi san's *Choppe Choppe PeePee* line
I don’t recall the buildup to the Zombie Lumberjack match, but it could work.
Imagine the most obnoxious heel (ok, Miz, check), and it’s revealed in storyline that he has an irrational fear of zombies, possibly from watching movies as a child or something.
So the baby face challenges the cocky heel to a lumberjack match, but he gets to pick the lumberjacks… the heel accepts, and the baby face announces that the zombies will serve as lumberjacks.
They aren’t portrayed as real zombies, but everyone winks at the idea that they really are zombies just for the benefit of terrorizing the heel.
Someone could’ve made this work at some point.
The Doomsday Cage match reminds me of the cage used in the movie Ready To Rumble, when Jimmy King dropped DDP through the cage all the way down to the ring. If that happened in real life, he'd be dead.
It reminds me of the Tower of Doom match from the 1988 Great American Bash which had Jimmy Garvin's team vs Kevin Sullivan's team
Might be unpopular, especially with the hardcore/Deathmatch fans, but... I'd just put any of those "Explosives (as in C4 and so on)" match types on this list. Dangerous and stupid. And if the final explosion gets blown, like in the AEW match, it's not even a visual moment.
You knew the Kennel from Hell Match was in trouble when the dogs got a bigger pop coming out than either Snow or Bossman.
I'm surprised not to see that inferno match from Japan where everything went wrong, fire too big and hot, no oxygen, wrestlers almost dieing.
I can't remember but didn't the arena also get set on fire?
It took place outdoors. But the ring itself was completely destroyed.
I saw a clip of that match. The fire got so overwhelming so quickly I'm amazed the wrestlers got out of the ring when they did.
@@kevinpayton2664 I can't imagine how hot it was in that ring.
@@Rando1975 I can't either.
That's because no canvas barbed wire ropes & fire deathmatches have been done a pair of times in the following years, with better successes (well, the amount of fire has been reduced for safety purposes)
The blindfold matches made me pop as a kid, but they've definitely lost their luster as an adult lol
I heard that the reverse battle royal in TNA was Vince Russo's idea.
Makes sense. Taking something that's working and completely ruining it is his forte.
@@jeremyc9593 let me guess you're the type of guy they won't give him any credit because you believe everything Jim cornette😂😂😂😂
Sounds very Russo.
It screams Russo tbh
@@WillsonT011 Russo had decent ideas on occasion, but he needed someone over him to filter out the idiotic ideas before they got to TV.
Scaffold match (GAB 1991), Chamber of Horrors (Halloween Havoc 91), Coal Miners Glove match (Halloween Havoc 92), Double Jeopardy match (November to Remember 2000), Last Rites match (Destination X 2007), Eye for an Eye (the Horror Show at Extreme Rules) come to mind.
The Last Rites could have been done better.
Well, they just could have get rid of that coffin and use the "put the opponent in a hearse to win" stipulation: it would have been easier and it would have been more entertaining
I feel like a blindfold match is something that is perfect from a house show a match not good for TV but can be perfect for crowd interaction
Battle Royale: Wrestlers in a ring throwing others out.
What first comes to mind when a Reverse Battle Royale is bought up: Wrestlers outside a ring throwing others in.
It never needed to be that complicated.
Correction chairs match made official because of the hardy, Dudley and edge/christian 3 way tag match. The Dudley's had tables. The Hardy's had ladders. Edge and Christian needed something.
Since you talked about the """""Electrified""""" Steel Cage Match i'm surprised you didn't also talk about the Last Rites match from TNA Destination X 2007.
Scaffold Matches. There's no match type as limiting for the Talent as Scaffold Matches. Even the King of the Road Match and the Steiner Asylum Matches, imo, have at least a bit more options for the Wrestlers to work with, so if you include those (and especially the Asylum Matches for how limiting that already was), than you have to include Scaffold Matches as well.
Technically there's a type of scaffold match (kinda) that is ok, and it's the Cage of Death match
I dig how in the picture of Big Show for the match, you can tell he's a babyface at the time because he's smiling.
Before the blindfold match at Wrestlemania 7, there's a shot of the guys adjusting their blindfolds and you can clearly see their hands through the mesh eye holes.
It’s almost like wrestling is fake lmao
Let's not (or let's) forget about that abyssmal "eye for an eye"match that Rey and Rollins were forced to work...
You'd think they could've just done the old "well, the opponent has to be *thrown* out of the ring to lose the match, therefore the match is still going" spiel to recover from the last one
WCW was never really that quick on the draw. I always wondered why they even bothered to cover the Savage elimination at RR '92. That was totally in character for him, the match had more than enough star power, and there were no big spots later in the match that he was involved in.
The Bret/Lawler "kiss my foot" match & the Kid/Ramon diaper match take honorable mention. The Punjabi structure looked awesome but after seeing clips of it, things just didn't look well-thought out. The Dustin/Bully match on the 18 wheeler had that Mad Max Road Warrior feel, but even professional stuntmen/women would have had a hard time pulling that off believably
In the case of the first two matches, the gimmicky part comes after em, it's not their core.
Btw some of em could be improved:
- a bigger cage for the Steiner asylum which includes all of the ring (the absence of ropes is ok to me with that stipulation)
- do the King of the Road match while the truck is not moving
- well, do like Zona 23 for the Junkyard Invitational
Great stuff mate, I’ll assume the 1991 Halloween Havoc “Chamber of Horrors” will be on Part 2?
I appreciate when you let us know things like “last time we will see bart Gunn on reliving the war” and “highest rating wcw will receive for the remainder of the war”. Helps put things into perspective. Also, Norman smiley shirt!!!!
Power Move Pro Wrestling music,
I haven't heard it since I was a wee boy.
Smashing 👍
That stairs weight has reduced drastically since the Attitude era. I remember Kane once lifting them and JR saying they weighed over 500lbs. Stair technology must have come some way since those days.
The "Kiss-My-Arse" match definitely should be on here
And the Vince McMahon version
That was just a regular match that required the loser to do something gross. Not really a gimmick match.
@@fergalstackstreams True. But it also ended with the loser not even doing what the stipulation forced him to do, thus it being a waste of time. (Plus the name itself was lame)
Have you done your take on the best or successful gimmick matches video?! If not, that would be a good video as well, I know it's something I would watch.
The Sting/Abyss Last Rites match should be on here and the Human Torch match with Vampiro and Sting should be on here too.
Guys, Judy Bagwell on a pole match is not on this list because that's one of the best match ever!
Doesn't get a mention because it was on a card filled with utter tripe
"After ladder and table matches, a chairs match seems like a step down."
And speaking of "a step down"...
THE STAIRS MATCH
OSW review made me LOVE the king of the road match! great video as always
The kennel from hell is worse than the zombie match. The zombie match was dumb, but at least there’s a decent match in the middle of it, and it doesn’t have dogs pooping all over the place.
I have always thought about how you can make a chairs match more unique. But every idea I have always felt sorta redundant.
Like, my first idea was if the goal was to break a gimmicked chair on your opponent. Like, you have a special chair that if it hits the opponent in a certain way, it “completely shatters” and that counts as a win. I felt this has potential as it allows the competitors to still fight over the chair but still allow the match to end in a unique and unpredictable way. For example, a wrestler could set up a situation where they could hit the chair or perform a DDT or something so the chair breaks. But at that point, wouldn’t a tables match be better?
Another was you had to use the chair to make your opponent give up. Remember that one time Bob Holly used a chair to choke out Big Show? Imagine if that was a match type? But then, wouldn’t it be a modified I Quit Match?
I also have an idea, among other chairs, there will be a one and only throne type chair, on which wrestlers have to sit on to earn points like in ironman match. wrestlers can also use other chairs to fight but they'll have to use throne to earn points and win the match, it can be name something like, Throne match?
@@HyperAshhPlays the worry I have is that could stall the pace of the match if done poorly. But it could work as an inverted last man standing match. I can see the value there.
Like, people complain that last man standing matches can have awkward pacing as an opponent gets knocked down and then get up before the count thereby wasting a lot of time and not really progressing the match. Whereas at least a failed pin attempt is between 1-2 seconds and has the kayfabe of Tiring out the defending wrestler.
So a Thrones match could work that even if a downed wrestler gets up after a 9 count, it ends up mattering now because it gives their opponent 9 points or something depending on how long they sit. Downed Wrestlers would be encouraged to get up quicker while the attacker would be encouraged to stay alert and rack up points.
I can also imagine the following spots:
Heel intentionally places the throne over the face so the face has to extent more time and energy to get up and remove the throne. Giving the heel more points.
Heel sets a trap for the face. Maybe holding a kendo stick or something. So as the face approaches a sitting heel, the heel attacks face with a stick to give heel more points.
Heel gets an early advantage in points, then hides or makes the throne unavailable for some time. So even when the face eventually makes a comeback, the time it takes face to recover the throne allows heel to recover and retain their points’ advantage.
Gonna have to go with King of the Mountain matches & Scaffold matches (except for New Jack vs Vic Grimes in XPW).
Was kinda surprised the “Extreme” Elimination Chamber match wasn’t part of the list. But definitely good for a future list as well.
That's because the concept is cool. It's the same as CZW's Cage of Death
I absolutely love this video topic! Great job and thank you!!
Scaffold matches are good on paper but always suck in execution.
Vince Russo " bro bro listen ! A contract on a pole first blood iron man lumber Jack loser leaves town hair vs hair strap match in which the winner wins via count out and then turns heel in a shoot work shoot promo"
I enjoyed the Jake vs Model blindfold match. I thought it was a lot of fun. Of course, I was a kid at the time so I legit thought they were blindfolded and that it was all real LOL.
Same actually and I still like that match only blindfold match I like. I think it worked for that time . I noticed my older family members liked it to so maybe that connection is contributing to my bias but it was fine for that time.
You forgot about the “Judy Bagwell on a pole” match!
It barely counts. It was basically a regular match, only there was also Judy Bagwell chilling on a forklift.
Surprised the Mountain Dew Pitch Black match wasn’t mentioned
Jinder Mahal bringing back The Punjabi Prison in 2017 was a great way to get heel heat
4:30 I was 5 years old in 1979 and for some reason I swore for many years afterwards that I saw something like this on World Of Sport at that time - a "Round The Ring" tournament where all the matches took place down on the ringside area and the matches lasted as long as it took the two wrestlers to complete one circuit around the ring. I guess I dreamed it. I was only 5.
Bray Wyatt’s glow in the dark match and whatever match with Randy Orton had the bugs in the ring come to mind
Rey vs Seth-Eye for an Eye .
Stone Cold vs Kane- First Blood(most of Kane's body is covered).
Kane vs Vader - Mask Match
Best way I would describe the Doomsday Cage, is a beat ‘em up video match. Someone at Turner Broadcast must’ve played Streets of Rage or Turtle in Time
That Zombie Lumberjack match made me think we were back in the early 90s.
Another awesome upload from the wrestling channel with the most jam on the planet!
Where's the Kaboom...?
There was supposed to be an Earth shattering Kaboom!?
-My response to the AEW Barbed Wire Death Match and the lack of explosions
I was a subscriber to Power Slam for many years. Still miss that coming through the door.
Mountain Dew Blue Shark match would have a shark cage 🦈
Awesome stuff. By the way, what's the song that starts upon introduction of WCW Junkyard Match (15:56)? I've heard it multiple times in your past videos, but I don't think I've heard it in any WCW or WWF shows. Is it maybe a custom mix?
If I were going to book an electric cage match I sure as hell wouldn't use jumper cables and a battery. When I was a teenager I had a German Shepherd who loved jumping over our fence. My grandpa got an electric wire that went across the top of the fence. I accidentally touched it once and got a surprise. It wasn't a dangerous electrocution or anything like that but it did let me know I don't want to touch that wire again. It felt like a mild stun but would have been a deterrent enough to stay away from it. I think they could have done something like that safely because the voltage wasn't high enough to cause any damage.
Bucky bottle on a pole match. It was wild drunken and rainy Wrestlemania Sunday night in Glasgow, Scotland...2 best friends decided to duke it out in a living room with more classic finishers than a full1998 PPV. One man ended up with an egg shaped lump on his head...it was not me
One thing you have to give the Kennel from Hell match: the dogs are adorable.
The best thing about it was the Kevin Kelly/Mick Foley commentary from a DVD... "Let's say the rottweilers are mating. They could give birth to a litter of 12-13 right here in the arena. We could have as many as two or three dozen rottweilers here in this Kennel from Hell Match!"
I'm pretty sure Sandman had used Hack as a name pre-WCW (maybe even pre-ECW) because a lot of wrestlers you'd guess would call him Sandman (or James) because they were in ECW together refer to him as Hack in shoot interviews
The Blind Fold match between vJake Roberts and Rick Martel was based on when Martel blinded Jake with the Arrogance and Jake was "blind" for a few months. It made since for the feud to end in a blindfold match.
I like Blindfold Matches, sure, hoakey, but entertaining if they done right
I thought the Jake Roberts & Rick Martel blindfold match was entertaining. It was no 5 star classic
Eugene is the master of the Tuxedo Match
Surprised the Orton/Wyatt match at Wyatt's house wasn't on the list. Match had to take place at Wyatt's house but end in the ring (?), and when Orton got there the house was LOCKED (???).
The only thing with blindfold matches I enjoy is when the guy points in a random direction and the crowd cheers if the opponent is there.
The pitch black match from Royal Rumble this year, literally just a normal match but all you can see is glow in the dark stuff and not the actual wrestling
Before the video started the Kennel from Hell match instantly comes to mind
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I actually feel like World War 3 would work a lot better these days; the biggest problem with it was the fact that the 3-way picture-in-picture TV format of the matches would wind up leaving the action too small and grainy to really make out much on TVs of the time, but here in the widescreen HDTV era, those issues would be mostly if not completely eradicated.
Unfortunately I was there to see the "electric" steel cage match in person. Fans were pissed
I could theoretically see a reverse battle royal working with a cage and less people.
Haven't seen the video, but if I don't see the San Francisco 49ers match I'm going to cry
2 different occasions i wondered why i stopped watching wrestling it was seeing zombies that reminded me...the zombie from wwe's ecw and the zombie lumberjack match...
Hey great video! Really enjoyed this.
The King of the Mountain match in TNA was ridiculous.
20:35
Kind of reminds me of the Royal Rumble (might have been the very first one) where Macho Man eliminates himself.