Jordan peterson is a very, very interesting man to learn from ..he's a very intellectual man ..i must buy a couple of his books ..GOD BLESS FROM THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND 🇮🇪 🙏
I think the message resonates with women who grew up in male chauvinistic homes where they weren’t given true direction and skills. Learning late. A father we didn’t have either. Thank you. 😊
A bit nitpicky, but when Bilbo had the Ring, it was just seen as a way to become invisible. It was Frodo who had to carry the weight of the world and all the responsibility
The wisdom of life is all described in the Holy Scriptures (Bible being one of them). Getting a good teacher (the one whose quality of character and life shows what you desire).😊
What kills me is that all of this relies of doing things for the good of society. But we live in a society that is so thoroughly corrupted and malformed that society itself is bad for society, and perpetuating it is bad in every conceivable way in the longterm.
Society is made up of individual people, each reflecting their individual family values and traumas, needs and wants. Doing true good and providing healing for oneself and others and society will reflect this. It cannot help but do so.
You are talking about all the people in society who are not taking responsibility, of which there are a lot. In my view, taking responsibility immediately relieves (and therefore improves) society of the problems one causes by not being responsible. Taking responsibility isn't as simplistic as just doing stuff for other people and feeling holy and righteous about it. It means doing your own duty, whatever that is, and thereby immediately relieving yourself and others from your being a burden. It's not just what we do, it also means not doing the stuff that caused problems for oneself and everyone else. And also, having the guts to refuse to do things that other people are blackmailing you into doing - emotional or physical blackmail. I think that to be able to live like this requires absolutely zero self-pity - not the zero pity that causes you to saw off your own leg or walk around with weights hanging from your testicles - but the power, the ability to care for yourself and your world, in the best possible way you are able to.
There is no meaning to find, you either Are or Are not in life, flowing as One with it. The moment you stop flowing and start reasoning about the meaning of this or that, you separate yourself from Existence and life, this is why you feel yourself nonexistent and lifeless. Don´t block Existence, get out of your own Way. Be Alive.
Rocks exist. Trees exist. They don't know anything about that. Neither does the universe. But as you have a rational mind, your very duty is to think, for you are a human being - not a rock. (Life consists of thinking, the thought gives it true colors).
@@dustyhq Thought and Perception are not the same thing, the first one is an extrapolation of perception, a subjective/somewhat illusory mental perspective over what was perceived, thus it is not the source of real truth nor the way by which man can connect and root himself in reality as it Is in a specific moment to him. Non-rational perception of what Is enables one to just Feel What Is, it is complete feeling and self immersion in the present experience that give life meaning and enable us to see its true and subjective-less / objective colors. I know it is not easy to understand this :)
@@1igonin Nah, it ain't that hard, you know. Just a little bit of complicated words. Thought is the inner perspective which doesn't define the truth - Sure, but it's the best way to finding some higher truth, because of the rational mind it is carring. What abot the shapes and colors we see? Aren't they real? Our mind cannot prove they are, but our heart can. It feels the space, the time, the numbers, the movement, even though the mind cannot prove them. And the knowledge of this things is as strong as of those which we get from our mind. That doesn't mean our thought cannot do anything in order to get to the "real truth", it just means it cannot prove what heart proves, just as the heart cannot prove what thought proves. (Even in this conversation, it isn't your heart speaking, but your mind, and it won't be the heart getting the conclusions, but your mind, which doesn't make them any less real - just unreachable to the heart). "And the mind must base itself on these hearts and instincts and build all its arguments on them. The heart feels that there are three dimensions in space and that the numbers are infinite; the mind then proves that there are no two squares of numbers, one of which is the double of the other. We feel the principles, we derive theorems by means of proof; both probably, even though in different ways. And it is as pointless and absurd for the mind to require the heart to prove first principles before it agrees to assent to them, as it would be absurd for the heart, before it agrees to accept them, to require the reason to feel all the propositions it proves. This impotence should therefore only lead to the humiliation of reason, which would like to judge everything, but not to the fight against our certainty, as if only reason were capable of teaching us about something. God would grant that, on the contrary, we would never need it and that we would know all things by instinct and feeling! But nature has denied us this good; she gave us, on the contrary, very little information of this kind; all others we can only acquire by reasoning.", said Blaise Pascal.
@@dustyhq Reason just establish associations between phenomena apprehended by the senses, and from such associations bring up patterns, rules, concepts, any form of construction and derivation that can bring about an order, a set form of perceiving reality, so that the mind don´t need to re-signify perceptions and spend a ton of energy each moment to fixate man in time and space (reason as a tool of mans navigation and energy expenditure efficiency). Humans call "knowledge" to such integrated perception of phenomena, but as you said, it is indeed the "heart" that knows things, and it knows by frequential/eletromagnetic reverberation with them, devoid of reason or the cause-effect memory and activity, as the brain-mind, by using reason really interferes frequentially with such subject-object frequential coupling and thus interferes in the energy/light wave information trade between the two, separating them from "knowing each other". This is why the reasoning of the mind must be silenced as well as the body must be submitted or relaxed to really be in a state by which it can "fuse" with perceived reality - Be One/non dual with Reality. It is the energy efficiency mechanisms of man (to which we call intelligence and knowledge) that really prevent him to access real intuition and primordial wisdom/true knowledge from the medium, and the ironic thing is that if we were able to shut our minds each moment and just contemplate and interact with reality in an unprejudiced/reason-less/truthful manner (expression from the heart), we would find perception and life much less tiring and much more meaningful, as through such way we would then reach the true perception/mental-efficiency we try to reach by reason or cause-effect mechanism.
@@dustyhq Conscious thought is only one part of you, and it is very limited. You've always been doing what you wanted, whether it be your duty or not. And you always will be, whether you know it consciously or not.
I have always had the feeling, that most Interpretations are way too rigid, rules are not necessary for the way of god and the way of god is individual, hence you cant apply the same ideas to every person
Oh - yeah, umm: need better 'fact checker ' ; Frodo NOT Bilbo was the ringbear in arduous journey of 'Lord of the Rings ' ; Joseph Campbell kept stories straight 🤨😶😐
Jordan peterson is a very, very interesting man to learn from ..he's a very intellectual man ..i must buy a couple of his books ..GOD BLESS FROM THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND 🇮🇪 🙏
The Pathway to maximum responsibility is the true adventure....
I think the message resonates with women who grew up in male chauvinistic homes where they weren’t given true direction and skills. Learning late. A father we didn’t have either. Thank you. 😊
Fantastic. My heaviest responsibility begins tomorrow. Thank you 💕😊🇨🇦🙏✝️
A bit nitpicky, but when Bilbo had the Ring, it was just seen as a way to become invisible. It was Frodo who had to carry the weight of the world and all the responsibility
The wisdom of life is all described in the Holy Scriptures (Bible being one of them). Getting a good teacher (the one whose quality of character and life shows what you desire).😊
Er hat Bilbo mit Frodo verwechselt. Bilbo klaut nur und hat Spaß. Frodo trägt die Bürde des Ringträgers.
What kills me is that all of this relies of doing things for the good of society. But we live in a society that is so thoroughly corrupted and malformed that society itself is bad for society, and perpetuating it is bad in every conceivable way in the longterm.
Society is made up of individual people, each reflecting their individual family values and traumas, needs and wants.
Doing true good and providing healing for oneself and others and society will reflect this. It cannot help but do so.
You are talking about all the people in society who are not taking responsibility, of which there are a lot. In my view, taking responsibility immediately relieves (and therefore improves) society of the problems one causes by not being responsible. Taking responsibility isn't as simplistic as just doing stuff for other people and feeling holy and righteous about it. It means doing your own duty, whatever that is, and thereby immediately relieving yourself and others from your being a burden.
It's not just what we do, it also means not doing the stuff that caused problems for oneself and everyone else. And also, having the guts to refuse to do things that other people are blackmailing you into doing - emotional or physical blackmail.
I think that to be able to live like this requires absolutely zero self-pity - not the zero pity that causes you to saw off your own leg or walk around with weights hanging from your testicles - but the power, the ability to care for yourself and your world, in the best possible way you are able to.
There is no meaning to find, you either Are or Are not in life, flowing as One with it. The moment you stop flowing and start reasoning about the meaning of this or that, you separate yourself from Existence and life, this is why you feel yourself nonexistent and lifeless. Don´t block Existence, get out of your own Way. Be Alive.
Rocks exist. Trees exist. They don't know anything about that. Neither does the universe. But as you have a rational mind, your very duty is to think, for you are a human being - not a rock. (Life consists of thinking, the thought gives it true colors).
@@dustyhq Thought and Perception are not the same thing, the first one is an extrapolation of perception, a subjective/somewhat illusory mental perspective over what was perceived, thus it is not the source of real truth nor the way by which man can connect and root himself in reality as it Is in a specific moment to him. Non-rational perception of what Is enables one to just Feel What Is, it is complete feeling and self immersion in the present experience that give life meaning and enable us to see its true and subjective-less / objective colors. I know it is not easy to understand this :)
@@1igonin Nah, it ain't that hard, you know. Just a little bit of complicated words. Thought is the inner perspective which doesn't define the truth - Sure, but it's the best way to finding some higher truth, because of the rational mind it is carring. What abot the shapes and colors we see? Aren't they real? Our mind cannot prove they are, but our heart can. It feels the space, the time, the numbers, the movement, even though the mind cannot prove them. And the knowledge of this things is as strong as of those which we get from our mind. That doesn't mean our thought cannot do anything in order to get to the "real truth", it just means it cannot prove what heart proves, just as the heart cannot prove what thought proves. (Even in this conversation, it isn't your heart speaking, but your mind, and it won't be the heart getting the conclusions, but your mind, which doesn't make them any less real - just unreachable to the heart).
"And the mind must base itself on these hearts and instincts and build all its arguments on them. The heart feels that there are three dimensions in space and that the numbers are infinite; the mind then proves that there are no two squares of numbers, one of which is the double of the other. We feel the principles, we derive theorems by means of proof; both probably, even though in different ways. And it is as pointless and absurd for the mind to require the heart to prove first principles before it agrees to assent to them, as it would be absurd for the heart, before it agrees to accept them, to require the reason to feel all the propositions it proves.
This impotence should therefore only lead to the humiliation of reason, which would like to judge everything, but not to the fight against our certainty, as if only reason were capable of teaching us about something. God would grant that, on the contrary, we would never need it and that we would know all things by instinct and feeling! But nature has denied us this good; she gave us, on the contrary, very little information of this kind; all others we can only acquire by reasoning.", said Blaise Pascal.
@@dustyhq Reason just establish associations between phenomena apprehended by the senses, and from such associations bring up patterns, rules, concepts, any form of construction and derivation that can bring about an order, a set form of perceiving reality, so that the mind don´t need to re-signify perceptions and spend a ton of energy each moment to fixate man in time and space (reason as a tool of mans navigation and energy expenditure efficiency). Humans call "knowledge" to such integrated perception of phenomena, but as you said, it is indeed the "heart" that knows things, and it knows by frequential/eletromagnetic reverberation with them, devoid of reason or the cause-effect memory and activity, as the brain-mind, by using reason really interferes frequentially with such subject-object frequential coupling and thus interferes in the energy/light wave information trade between the two, separating them from "knowing each other". This is why the reasoning of the mind must be silenced as well as the body must be submitted or relaxed to really be in a state by which it can "fuse" with perceived reality - Be One/non dual with Reality. It is the energy efficiency mechanisms of man (to which we call intelligence and knowledge) that really prevent him to access real intuition and primordial wisdom/true knowledge from the medium, and the ironic thing is that if we were able to shut our minds each moment and just contemplate and interact with reality in an unprejudiced/reason-less/truthful manner (expression from the heart), we would find perception and life much less tiring and much more meaningful, as through such way we would then reach the true perception/mental-efficiency we try to reach by reason or cause-effect mechanism.
@@dustyhq Conscious thought is only one part of you, and it is very limited. You've always been doing what you wanted, whether it be your duty or not. And you always will be, whether you know it consciously or not.
His intellect has gotten in the way of his Biblical understanding
I have always had the feeling, that most Interpretations are way too rigid, rules are not necessary for the way of god and the way of god is individual, hence you cant apply the same ideas to every person
Clergy still debates scripture daily. Perhaps your understanding of the bible is skewed by your arrogance.
Ask your street pharmacist if Psilocybin is right for you.
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Oh - yeah, umm: need better 'fact checker ' ; Frodo NOT Bilbo was the ringbear in arduous journey of 'Lord of the Rings ' ; Joseph Campbell kept stories straight 🤨😶😐
He said The Hobbit