25th Century Starships Lore (Picard S2)
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
- The first episode of Star Trek Picard dropped and we got to see new uniforms and more importantly, new Starships! Super excited as it adds some Star Trek Online vessels to the canon of the shows, including the Gagarin, Ross, Reliant and Sutherland class ships!
Let's breakdown the lore behind each of these shall we?
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Finally, a logical move by CBS. Leveraging Cryptic's extensive assets was a no-brainer.
how long have we all wondered when and if they would ever do this? About time!
Where's Lore ?
@@optimusprinceps3526 Not entirely sure. Drifting through space or lying deactivated and deconstructed in some nondescript drawer?
@@Timberwolf69 🤖 thank you
@@Timberwolf69 I believe Data disassembled his body but retained the cranial unit after their last run-in. The fact that only B4 exists in Starfleet's control leads me to believe that Lore's brain may have been lost with the destruction of the Enterprise-D.
I honestly don't think I've ever heard this much pure joy in your voice.
It's mixing Star Trek lore with STO. What's not to be happy about? 🤓
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Ngl, I actually thought he was drunk at first 🤣
I can't hear any difference between his voice in this video and other videos.
As a long time STO player, it warms the cockles of my heart to see more and more of Cryptic's lovingly-crafted ship designs become cemented into the canon universe! None more so than the Gagarin, imo :D
I've been furious that no TV shows have used the huge resources of STO. It's just makes sense to at least use some ships from the game. I understand not using story from STO. The whole any uniform and players being advanced through to the top ranks of Starfleet would be a bit awkward. The uniform thing may actually be taking place though. Picard can't seem to stick to any specific uniform lol
@@BamaChad-W4CHD You definitely have a point about the uniforms, although I did think that the onscreen 2401 uniforms seem to look like an intermediate step between the 2399 uniforms and the famous "Sierra" type uniform that was used for a lot of STO promotional material (and still my favorite STO uniform design because I loved the way it looks).
do you happen to be singaporean? cos "cockles of my heart"
I have never felt such pure delight like I have when seeing the Starfleet in S2
Excelsior was obviously built to last
Hell, I'm stoked they brought in the USS Thunderchild- girl survived the Battle of Sector 001, the entire Dominion War, and lived to see this fleet.
NICE.
Fleet needed a Cali off in the back though.
Honestly that scene with the Federation fleet was epic and thank God we didn't get another Inquiry Class copy and paste fleet.
Also it was a Luna class in the background 😉
They caught hell because of that fleet scene lol
I really like that inquiry, but the copy paste was pretty bad.
The copy-paste fleet at the end of Season 1 is the only fleet in Star Trek history that has ever made any sense. You don't design a zillion different classes of ships and then only build a few examples of each, because that drives maintenance costs and engineer specialization through the roof. No matter how rich the Federation is, it would always make more sense to design a few _good_ classes of ships and then build a butt-ton of them, making minor modifications to each as needed for its specific duties.
@@deusexaethera i mean it makes sense because it was mass produced for the evacuation, but it still looked ridiculous.
@@deusexaethera Just like real life fleets are composed of just one ship, right?
And yes that was a Luna class. In addition to the Ross, Sutherland, Reliant and Gagarin, CBS also used the Akira, Sovereign and Luna 3d models from Cryptic. The Inquiry may also be a STO model as I think it had better detail than the Season 1 one.
That's what made last year's finale so fascinating. They literally wasted money on "most advanced starship the fleet's ever produced" (uhuh) when they already had the ships and their refits. So lazy with the IP they are at times.
@@rjmeeks4152 I think last year they were depending on an outside FX shop, and dumped the job on them last minute. So they only had 2 weeks to do the ship. Even then they used a ship design that was originally from the first failed attempt at STO by Acclaim. So technically the Inquiry is also a canonized STO ship;) .
Seeing all of this starts to make more sense when you look over at STD. And realize that they create some assets in house. Such as the Discovery and first season and second season Fed ships. But other stuff they have bought wholesale from third party 3d model shops. The kind that provide Assets for Video games. All of those 32nd Century Federation Ships that look like they come out of a plumbing supply catalog? The ones that look like they belong more in a Mass Effect game than Star Trek? Yeah those were bought off the shelf from a company selling Video Game ships.
That may have been the point where somebody realized "Hey if we can use Video Game ships off the shelf... why can't we use ships from the Star Trek Video Game?" It helped that some of the new production crew both on Picard and I believe the Lower Decks ship designer are STO fans.
@@andrewtaylor940 That's good info thanks!
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_"I think last year they were depending on an outside FX shop, and dumped the job on them last minute. So they only had 2 weeks to do the ship. Even then they used a ship design that was originally from the first failed attempt at STO by Acclaim. So technically the Inquiry is also a canonized STO ship;) ."_
Perpertual, not Acclaim, but mostly correct. The VFX on all the live action Star Trek shows are split across several VFX houses, and due to last minute rewrites, a new design had to be created in ~2 days, and the final scene done within ~2 weeks, hence the copy and paste fleet.
_"But other stuff they have bought wholesale from third party 3d model shops. The kind that provide Assets for Video games. All of those 32nd Century Federation Ships that look like they come out of a plumbing supply catalog? The ones that look like they belong more in a Mass Effect game than Star Trek? Yeah those were bought off the shelf from a company selling Video Game ships."_
This is not true, those ships are designed by the Discovery production team. The modelling may be outsourced, though.
_"That may have been the point where somebody realized "Hey if we can use Video Game ships off the shelf... why can't we use ships from the Star Trek Video Game?" It helped that some of the new production crew both on Picard and I believe the Lower Decks ship designer are STO fans."_
As Discovery's ships aren't off the shelf models, this isn't entirely right. You can read Dave Blass's interviews to see how they brought STO ships into Picard. Dave Blass is a fan of the franchise as a whole, and was the driving force behind bringing back people who had worked on previous Trek.
The USS Excelsior, a 108 year old ship. The fact that they kept the 1 ship in service for soooooooooooo long just shows that Starfleet is very sentimental.
Don't worry -- it's actually a new Excelsior. Doug Drexler confirmed as much; Sulu's Excelsior is in a fleet museum.
@@Ostermond But wouldn't it be the A, since it has the same registry. I assumed it was in a museum, then refit with the Borg upgrades and sent back out
@@Ostermond In the books the Sulu Excelsior was lost to the Dominion
There was a USS excelsior NCC-21445 listed on a display in TNG
Where's Lore ? He's Data's brother and much trouble
I want the Oddy/Yorktown variants in the show; considering that when it (the Oddy design) first came out back in the day, several news outlets back when it first unveiled confirmed that it was also "canon" in Star Trek - in a way.
Agreed. The Odyssey would be a definite progression of the Sovereign. It's a beautiful and well designed ship. It should be shown on screen
Totally agree! Odyssey/Yorktown are definitely one of the most beautiful ships in Star Trek and Yorktown eliminated some of the weaknesses of the original odyssey designs (i.E. the thin warp nacelle pylons). They don't just look beautiful, they continue the apporach of combined exploration/combat vessels
I also hope for one of the Command Battlecruisers (preferably Presidio or Concorde) somewhere appear in a future star trek show. I always loved their design and how they look both elegant and aggressive
The Odyssey class does show up in the "Picard" expanded universe. The "Picard Countdown" comic shows an Odyssey-class USS Verity as Admiral Picard's flagship. But I agree with you, seeing the Odyssey on screen would be even better.
@@heavyarms01h exactly! I would have expected the classic Oddy or the Yorktown variant of the Enterprise helmed that Andorian captain from the games to appear in Picard Season 2.
Not that I don't want to see Oddy series, but the first of the Odyssey line weren't commissioned yet until 2409. Yorktown and the rest of her sister ships were commissioned in 2410-2411. The best we can hope is the Verity class, since it was the precursor to the Odyssey :(
I like the fact that the Ross class is now canon, going from the star trek adventures campaign "clear skies" to sto to actual trek
I loves how they put MORE ships into starfleet and made Starfleet feel more STARFLEET then the crap we had in season one... Also don't know how many caught the small slip from Picard when he arrived on the Stargazer.. He called it a REFIT :P
It is a refit though isn't it? Of the Sagan NX.
@@CountScarlioni Technically yeah. But its quite clearly that Picard is talking about it as HIS old Stargazer having been refitted.. Specially since it's not once mentioned that it's a Sagan Class and the only ship of that class.. it is only off screen we know that.
@@darth_yoda Yeah, I've looked at the scene again and I agree with you. It blatantly implies this _is_ Picard's Stargazer.
Blimey there can be little left of the original other than the dedication plaque!
I think he was calling it a refit of the Constellation Class, but I don't think it matters that much.
@@3Rayfire That was sorta my mind.. It's NOT a refit it's a whole new class of ship The Segan class are bigger then the Galaxy class were the Constellation was under half the size of a Galaxy just for comparison. Hence it can in no way of form be a refit hence it's a WHOOPSIE on the creators part :P
Someone: "Why are these ships white and dark gray with red trim?"
Me: So you can tell the older ones from the newer ones with similar designs.
Im not sure you were aware but the Ross Class was created for the Star Trek Adventure Live Play “Clear Skies”. It was confirmed that the Ross Class in that Shot was the USS Ross From that actual play, and the designer got to tell the cast that they were officially in Canon
That makes me happy, and I'm sure it made those actors happy as well
There's a vid on STO's YT channel where the devs tell the folks who played in that game that their ship is now considered "canon".
@@Tigershark_3082 The looks on their faces when they realized what Thomas Morrone was saying was priceless.
Even if it was only for a few seconds, I was thrilled to see the sovereign class after so many years.
Nice to see a galaxy class refit. It’s been awhile since we’ve seen a refit design.
It really felt like that long sweeping shot of the Stargazer was an apology for the rushed fleet shot at the end of Season 1. I don't hold that season 1 fleet debacle against them though. It was a rushed together shot that had to be added at the last minute.
Also, It's such a shame we haven't seen the Odyssey class yet. It's the only class I think is as beautiful (if not more) than the Sovereign class.
TBH, with these STO ships now canon, I'm holding out for a scene where the crew are in a tight spot with no apparent backup on hand only for the Odyssey Class Enterprise-F with Worf in Command to drop out of warp and blow the crap outta whatever was threatening our merry band of heroes :D
@@ACtheLegend I don't know. That might feel like a repeat of what happened at the end of season 1
@@thumpercomet3856 Ore from Discovery where they did the same with the Constitution class. But frankly I wouldnt even mind such a repeat scene
The copy-paste fleet at the end of Season 1 is the only fleet in Star Trek history that has ever made any sense. You don't design a zillion different classes of ships and then only build a few examples of each, because that drives maintenance costs and engineer specialization through the roof. No matter how rich the Federation is, it would always make more sense to design a few _good_ classes of ships and then build a butt-ton of them, making minor modifications to each as needed for its specific duties.
@@deusexaethera stop it Shawn, you're making too much sense! Lol. Fair points though! :)
That is cool that the ST Online ships made it into cannon. Maybe you can do an indepth review of each ship.
I didn't even know the first episode had dropped, and you're already including it in your content.
Yeah it dropped Thursday apparently.
Don't worry,... I was surprised too, lol
@@PhillipLemmon You didn't see any of the trailers or ads for PIC season 2?
@@Corbomite_Meatballs I did. And now thinking about it... It did say Thursday, LMFAO!
But I was soo busy with #DADLIFE that I COMPLETELY forgot about it, lol
Nice to see the Sovereign still around and kicking
Amazing when CBS and STO share their 3d models...
What I found really cool was that the 3D models they used from STO were pretty much unchanged when transferred to the system Picard uses.
@@goldenknight578 - Pretty sure Cryptic had to add better details and up the rendering, but other than that, yeah, it’s pretty cool that the ships in the show are exactly like they are from the game.
@@CJ-442 From what Thomas Marrone said, what you see on screen are the exact same models used in the game. It was just a straight transfer into the engine Picard uses without any modification.
@@goldenknight578 To be specific, what we see in the show is what we have in game *now*. Thomas started the revamps of the Sutherland, Reliant and Gagarin because they were going to be featured in Picard and he wanted to provide the show with the best the game could handle. Those revamps then made it into STO with the new Terran story arc we're getting
@@STOEmma That's it exactly. It's pretty safe to say that all of the revamps in game are the result of Picard.
I'm not gonna lie, I was happier to see three of my favorite ships in Starfleet history together for the first time. The Sovereign, Akira, and Luna make a brilliant trio, and I'm glad they were shown alongside such great 25th century refits from STO. Many more deserve their place in canon, and I hope this is just the beginning.
For once, no random roller coaster camera ,crying and whispering.
By far, I think the Gagarin class is my favorite class of new ships! Hope we see a new Enterprise hero ship.
I've always seen the Akira Class Starship as a NX-01 Enterprise that's been flipped on it's back and the bridge being on what would've been the belly of the NX Class Starship
The NX-01 is a flipped Akira. The Akira model was created and used first. When it was first shown there was a massive outcry that the design of the NX-01 was lazy and just a flipped Akira.
@@Interitus1 but it's really not just a flipped Akira sure they used the Akira as inspiration because a producer liked it a lot but from there massive changes were made to the design to make it the beauty that we know as the NX class leaving it with only a tangential connection to the Akira design and has season 5 been made the enterprise would have had even less in common with it due to the refit.
the most unabashed example of what you're getting at is the Shepard class, the Gagarin being a reskin of it, which is basically just a flipped and stripped Walker class with standardised Disco nacelles. now that was lazy.
@@Interitus1 I didn't realize that the Akira Class was the model for the NX Class and that it'd preceded the series Enterprise
@@morganb6717 such designs aren’t exactly that out of line for trek historically. The New Orleans class is just a scaled down galaxy with marker pens glued to the saucer, the Yeager is an intrepid saucer stuck on a maquis raider hull scaling issues be damned, the centaur is just an excelsior saucer and nacelles stuck on to a reliant mission pod and even the Nebula is basically just a galaxy that’s been trimmed and compacted down then had a pod stuck on the back of it when you get down to basics of the design. There might even be more like that, those are just the ones off the top of my head.
I've always loved the nebula and miranda classes so it's great to see new updated versions of these classes
Thank you for the details, I wasn't sure what a few of the ships actually were.
Thank you for this video, ive always been fascinated with the starfleet ship classes and love your videos
also there's a new 4 nacelle class hidden in rios's ready room as the first of the stargazer lineage, the artist who made the models posted them on his twitter
Indeed, I wonder if we'll see one of said class in Strang New Worlds...
Should have had the Defiant class there and the saber. The new Saber on online is beautiful though. I know we will be seeing the steamrunner and Nover class later on in the series.
Do you mean the T6 Saber, the _Da Vinci_-class?
The pure joy and excitment in youre voice makes this vidio even more enjoyable
I love it. I was bummed out when I saw copy pasta fleet at the end of season 1. This is far better. Criticism taken and improved, I suppose.
Shows what happens when the CGI artists are given more than a month to prepare.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 and what happens when they don't need to apply to the stupid 25% difference role of the Bad Robot license anymore but can straight up license ships from alpha or beta canon :)
Loved all the ships we got to see.
It would have been cool to see a California class too, but I’m not at all complaining with what we got. Much cooler than the fleet in season 1.
Shari Yn Yem: You're a California class! Half the Federation doesn't even know you exist!
The fact we've only ever seen it in Lower Decks makes me laugh that it's actually true.
The copy-paste fleet at the end of Season 1 is the only fleet in Star Trek history that has ever made any sense. You don't design a zillion different classes of ships and then only build a few examples of each, because that drives maintenance costs and engineer specialization through the roof. No matter how rich the Federation is, it would always make more sense to design a few _good_ classes of ships and then build a butt-ton of them, making minor modifications to each as needed for its specific duties.
Still mourning the loss of the Oberth class. Considering it took on missions from fighting the Borg to routine survey, it's gotta be one of the most OP ships Starfleet has ever built...
Right?
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I would have like to have seen an updated Oberth like the updated Reliant and Excelsior designs featured. I think a neat role for it would have been as a fast courier ship that delivers Picard to the Stargazer. It's kind of silly that a shuttle could get there from Earth so quickly. A revamped Oberth with long nacelles would have been perfect.
@@adamlytle2615 Have a refit Oberth drop it's sensor/survey/secondary/whateveritis hull and turn into a fast pancake ship would actually be kinda cool, now that i think about it. Plus it would add to the "modularity" of Starfleet spaceships that we keep hearing about but never see.
Although, honestly, i like the Nova far more than any possible variation of the Oberth.
There is a Nebula class starship called the U.S.S Sutherland that Data takes command of in the TNG era
Loved that episode with that snobby Human first officer. Data slapped him up good.
@@dmanc85 Yes he did as he was a total c u next Tuesday (C**t)for a human
Such a huge improvement over the copy paste fleet from season 1. I love it!
What a great vid. Thank you very much for making it. I LOVE the Southerland. This is because the Nebular was my favorite class during the next gen days.
The Ross (the USS Ross) class was used in a Star Trek TTRPG show, Clear Skies. Its implied that the show is now canon.
Then that means the Intrepid class USS Sally Ride is canon too as that appeared in that play.
@@paulgrattan3885 are you sure, I am only about 16 episodes in, but I thought they couldn't use anything from shield of tomorrow in clear skies???
I got the first "Like" for this video! Woo hoo!! 🥳🎉.
I think the Ross class has an awesome look!
Regarding the new USS Stargazer being the first of the Sagan Class, it's entirely possible that either your hypothesis of it having been renamed will turn out to be true, but it's also possible that it's the first of the "production run" of Sagan Class ships, and that the USS Sagan, possibly still with NX prefix, exists elsewhere.
So what happened was,
The Enterprise-E was holding a party: The Enterprise-D, Excelsior, Reliant, Stargazer, and Discovery all got makeovers and came over.
Then the Borg crashed the party and Q broke the universe. Fun was had by all!
The Gagargan looks like a TNG-ified upgrade of the Discovery to me, makes sense for this era to tie its multiple ongoing shows together like this, if in small ways, since the modern shows don’t have the advantage of taking place in the same era like TNG-DS9-VOY did
The second I saw that fleet on screen, I immediately thought of you looking like a kid on Christmas morning.
I love that we can hear how excited you are at the begining of the video ;-) I share the excitement!
Thanks Ric for the closer look, I was surprised not to see a Prometheus class ship or Defiant class
OMG the new Stargazer is NIIIIIICE! And I'm really happy ships from STO made it into Picard. There's so many amazing ships created from Cryptic artists.
4:26 "...But the ships where so new, most apparently haven't been properly rendered yet"
I've fixed it for you.
I like the fact the newer class ships are based on reliable ships in the past. I especially like the USS Gagarin
My first reaction looking at the fleet was “oh great, no copy paste” and the one second later to “IS THAT A SUTHERLAND?!”
A small extra note on The Ross. STO designed it, in part with a small RPG group called StreamPunks. The show was called Clear Skies, using the Star Trek Adventures RPG books by Modiphius Entertainment. The show included having the ship use two warp cores and holographic first officer (Similar to Voyager's Doctor). If you ever need more Star Trek, (although not Canon), you should check it out over on QueueTimes.
Gotta say that’s a nice looking fleet, I’m really glad they took this route for the show’s visual style. In my opinion the design language of STO ships lends itself very well to a 25th century Starfleet. It appears markedly more advanced than late 24th century designs but not so much so that it feels out of place. It feels like a natural progression from one generation of technology to the next. Now it just needs its crown jewel the Odyssey class. That ship most definitely deserves to be canon.
*Nice breakdown!* ⭐😃👍
Thanks for this wonderful video, sir.
I loved seeing them in the series. Though, like many, I'm a bit surprised that they had no idea that such awesome designs existed in STO.
I want to see the Vesta class. And bonus points if it's commanded by Captain Ezri Dax.
Hello. Amazing vid. I'm digging the new uniforms and starships. Yet, the scores are what I love about modern "Star Trek." I respect the opinions of those who *dislike* modern "Star Trek." Thank you for sharing, my friend, and may you and yours live long and prosper. 🖖
thanks for alerting me that was out. now to watch that before watching you get all child seeing a superhero for the first time giddy
Makes you wonder what else they might decide to take from the game. Imagine if we get to see some version of the Iconian War. Vance (in Discovery) mentioned “remnants of the Iconian Empire,” even though the last time we heard the Iconians name-dropped in any of the shows, they were believed to be extinct.
I get the feeling the romulan republic will be the first thing we see adapted on the long road to the 32nd century and romulo-vulcan reunification
Love the Ross and Sovereign class, all of what made the Galaxy class great, but with a sleeker, more streamlined look. Similarly why I like the Odyssey class, with the exception of the twin support structures for the saucer section as opposed to the solid supports that the Galaxy, Ross and Sovereign have. Great video!
"Contamination by baryonic particles" cracks me up. Baryonic particles are... regular matter.
Enjoyed this episode!
Awesome vid…thank you.
I didn't notice until this video that the new Stargazer just had a 8 added at the beginning of the registry. It's interesting the Picard says "these retrofits" that definitely looked like the space frame if the original Excelsior. Hopefully it's updated
so good to see actual trek ships and not the copy-paste ones from the finale last season lol
As an early buyer of the gagarin/shepard I feel vindicated championing it over the Vengeance for so long.
I see star trek's writers have finally figured out the concept of continuity.
LOL, Roddenberry sank that ship in the 60s.
Lol star trek and continuity are like oil and water they just don't mix but it is cool to see the hard work the STO devs have put in be properly recognized and canonized
Needed this video after the first episode
Not only difference that the backbone of the US Navy non carrier surface fleet is the Arleigh Burke class destroyer. In a real world navy, there is not an infinite budget where you can buy ships of new designs every year. So to keep cosr down, you would have upgrades and variants of a succesful existing design that meant a navy's needs. In the xsde of the Burke class, there were 3 different version, Flight 1 to Flight 3, plus a stretch version that is going to the US Navy's next generatiion destroyer.
There are designs like the MEKO as well as from shipbuilders like Damen that are modular and can be easily modified to fit a particular navy's need.
yeah when i saw the fleet i wanted to see what ships i could recognize i think i got most of them right but you showed a few i got wrong haha thanks for the informative video
Great Video thank you so much live long and prosper🖖🏼
It's great to see some nice designs from STO in the show. I am a bit sad that the Tempest Class didn't make it in.
I'm a bit surprised that you didn't go into detail about the Ross class being essentially a "fan creation" since it was specifically created to coincide with the Clear Skies Star Trek Adventures TTRPG stream from Queue Times. Granted in that games universe it was still in it's experimental stage going to explore the Shackleton Expanse. Especially interesting is that it featured not one, but two warp cores that could also be ejected should the situation arise for it. Still I love your lore videos and story series and, as always, look forward to what new content you bring for us viewers.
Love all the new ships. That was definitely a Luna Class ship in the background.
I swear if the sto Titan class ever shows up in canon I’m gonna loose it!! So glad to see these ships get recognized by the wider trek universe!
I think it was in lower decks.
@@Bitchslapper316 definitely was, Riker commands it
@@A407RAC the Luna class USS Titan was in Lower Decks, and also in this episode of Picard, but the Titan Class is a variant of the design in Star Trek Online. But it has not appeared in canon.
@@adamlytle2615 Ah my bad, my good sir - I recalled it being "Titan" but forgot it was Luna class, not Titan class! Thanks for your accurate correction, glad to see a fellow LDs fan! (And ST:O of course ❤️)
I hope we get to see some Parliament and Cali classes turn up in future episodes!
With the loss of utopia planitia it would make sense that Starfleet was looking to expand its construction capabilities earlier, yard 39 would have then been a higher priority maybe.
I am quite sure I still like the look of the Galaxy the best. Something about it just invokes such joyfulness within me.
The Sutherland class, being an update version of the Nebula class, is like the new DDG(X) destroyer of the US Navy since it used the same design of the existing Arleigh Burke class with new and update weapon and sensor systems as well as being a stretched and larger version of this design.
man i hope we get some eaglemoss xl models of these new ships
This is beyond good news. Maybe they will take some of the events of the game and bring them to the series! The door is now opened for it after all.
Honestly I was expecting the Zheng He cut paste x100. Totally excited to see this pan out differently.
The copy-paste fleet at the end of Season 1 is the only fleet in Star Trek history that has ever made any sense. You don't design a zillion different classes of ships and then only build a few examples of each, because that drives maintenance costs and engineer specialization through the roof. No matter how rich the Federation is, it would always make more sense to design a few _good_ classes of ships and then build a butt-ton of them, making minor modifications to each as needed for its specific duties.
Hopefully, we can see them in action sometime!
The Ross Class IMO could have been the Enterprise-D II.
If the D would have gone through a refit program after extensive damage, it could have been a Enterprise D Refit. Though most likely, they wouldhave called her "E" anyway...
@@Timberwolf69 if it was the same hull, it would be "D". if it was an all new hull it would be E. (this is why the Soverign class one got the new letter)}
if the Ent-E is gone the next one would be the F.. and i am hoping that we get STO's Odyssey class Ent-F. (though i'd hope for her Yorktown sub-class visuals from the newer missions :) )
@@glitterboy2098 I was refering to a refit to Ross-class specs, overhaulde hull included.
im bettings its what the big D is a mirror image of. Enteprise D 2.0
Thanks, Rick ❤️❤️❤️
Listen how excited he is 😂 I love this dude
Good to see that CBS seems to be at least partially heeding criticism. I hope they save the Odyssey class introduction for a dramatic scene where someone yells, "Another ship is incoming! It's the Enterprise!”
I love these ships!
there was a twitter thread that listed all the ships both name and registry numbers and which ship was which from one of the senior producer on S2 of Picard
also included was some scale shots of the borg ship
That Ross class got me right in the nostalgia
the Excelsior will never be retired. I think that's the one constant of Trek.
xD
9:15 - I haven't watched the episode yet, but just from that screenshot... yeah, that looks like a Luna class way in the background.
Awesome great video Star Trek great show
5 Sovereigns on Screen at @2:25 - the bottom left highlighted also has another ship next to it.
The Gregarin looks sick!
If it really is the NX/NCC-2000 Excelsior then wow that ship is a trooper. 108 years of service would be unheard of.
I wonder if we'll ever see an upgraded version of the Constitution/Enterprise class from the TOS movie era onscreen?
STO has such a massive library of derivative ships or completely new designs. Maybe as relations between the Federation and Romulan diaspora improve we could start to see those hybrid designs pop up. The Khitomer-class combined UPF/KDF ship would be a stretch most likely, but still would be nice to see.
That new Excelsior is huge! Compared to the Sovereign class it looks like the Constitution class to the OG Excelsior. I’d love to see the 25th century Excelsior next to the USS Vengeance for scale 🤩
It's the original U.S.S Excelsior. The registry is the original ncc 2000. No letter added.
@@Geggy0815 If you're talking about those memorial plaques, that one is NCC-2000, but that's not the same one on screen.
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When did you get a look at the registry? If it was while Picard was standing in front of the ship outlines at the academy, did you notice the Stargazer shown was the old one NCC 2893, not the new one NCC 82893? that confused me for a minute, and I had to go back and check.
I think those displays were to show the heritage of the names of ships the cadets were being assigned to rather than to show the ships themselves (if not, Starfleet or the shows VFX department made a major mistake by showing the wrong Stargazer).
I saw a video of another youtuber who said it was shown at the scene when raffi calls the stargazer. I checked it now and it was not shown. You can just read USS Excelsior. Sorry.
It was the NCC-2000 excelsior . At 26:11 season 2 episode 1 you can clearly see the display say USS Excelsior NCC-2000 . At 26:24 the angle on the display is even better .
It's an Excelsior-II class though as confirmed by one of the showrunners. The only mistake they made is they should have called it the NCC-2000-A.
yeah love that the sto ship designers are getting the credit they're due.
I'm glad that the STO ships are slowly being integrated into canon.
3:47 well that ship is actually the Excelsior II class a revamp version like the one we saw in search for Spock