Velveting vs. Needle Tenderizing meat

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  • @Christoph1888
    @Christoph1888 4 месяца назад +5252

    1st time I velveted beef i was shocked at the difference it makes. It's quick and easy, just 15mins works well.

    • @ankitsood2932
      @ankitsood2932 4 месяца назад +29

      Is washing and drying the meat a deterrent? Beating your meat seems to be an easier way to getting a similar end result

    • @initialyeet3951
      @initialyeet3951 4 месяца назад +53

      @@ankitsood2932Tenderizing by pounding doesn’t yield the same texture as velveting.

    • @Christoph1888
      @Christoph1888 4 месяца назад +31

      @@ankitsood2932 I don't tap it dry just rinse it in a colander. The meat will have sauce added to the stir-fry anyway. It just goes from being quite tough to almost melt in your mouth depending how long u leave it. You can over do it and the texture is almost like fish.

    • @insaniittyy
      @insaniittyy 4 месяца назад +11

      I just marinate beef in ginger to tenderize it works so well not hard and adds an amazing subtle ginger flavor

    • @Appaddict01
      @Appaddict01 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ankitsood2932You don’t have to rinse it. I’ve never seen them rinse it on the Chinese cooking channels.

  • @itsROMPERS...
    @itsROMPERS... 4 месяца назад +2698

    Velveting works better if you use moisture, like soy sauce.
    Needling is ok on certain cuts, but using it on steak can make the meat texture really mealy.
    Best kept to stir fry.

    • @joeycampbell940
      @joeycampbell940 4 месяца назад +9

      No

    • @MungusBeans
      @MungusBeans 4 месяца назад +44

      ​@@joeycampbell940 thanks Joey

    • @Omega_1111
      @Omega_1111 4 месяца назад +8

      Hear me out... Country fried steak

    • @moltenspageti
      @moltenspageti 4 месяца назад

      @@joeycampbell940the fuck you mean no

    • @Pallamut
      @Pallamut 3 месяца назад +3

      All that water and all she had to do was use moisture, lmao

  • @greggollaher5053
    @greggollaher5053 4 месяца назад +717

    Both work well. It's good ro see the basics covered because they make a huge difference. Well done.

    • @MorgansBeauty22
      @MorgansBeauty22 3 месяца назад +2

      Right! I love fancy videos but seeing skilled and seasoned chefs cover basic things that helps at home cooks is the way to do youtube cooking videos that will never get old or run out

  • @ashenfox3535
    @ashenfox3535 4 месяца назад +72

    Velveting is the best when you're making very saucy stir frys as it allows the meat to pick up more sauce.

  • @sarinthratong-ngork3034
    @sarinthratong-ngork3034 4 месяца назад +330

    Skirt steak is already tender. Should have used flank steak instead, to see real results.

    • @onlymyself7225
      @onlymyself7225 4 месяца назад +15

      I would like this , I can only get flank here in Canada where I am sadly

    • @Omega_1111
      @Omega_1111 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@onlymyself7225I can say needling works. Country fried steak uses a flank steak that is supposed to be needled, really good

    • @davidbickle5
      @davidbickle5 4 месяца назад +1

      I came here to say that lol

    • @The_Sleepiest_Socialist
      @The_Sleepiest_Socialist 3 месяца назад +5

      Should’ve used brisket, that would have been a real test.

    • @CookingwithShereen
      @CookingwithShereen  3 месяца назад +56

      Skirt is not tender, it’s incredibly chewy.

  • @FionaApplewright
    @FionaApplewright 4 месяца назад +480

    Learning the cornstarch trick changed my life. I don't rinse it, though, since it's usually used with cornstarch in the sauce anyways. You absolutely have to let it set, however.

    • @icxcnika2037
      @icxcnika2037 4 месяца назад +96

      baking soda not cornstarch

    • @sjn8768
      @sjn8768 4 месяца назад

      @@icxcnika2037both

    • @chefpaul420
      @chefpaul420 4 месяца назад +14

      Both!

    • @melissadunton3534
      @melissadunton3534 4 месяца назад +28

      Cornstarch doesn’t tenderize meat…it’s not a base like baking soda.
      Though vinegar or lemon juice work well as acids if you’re going to marinate it before cooking.
      If using venison I find it’s better to use an acid to tenderize it since it’s leaner than beef. 😊

    • @feefeee
      @feefeee 4 месяца назад +6

      You gotta wash out the soda

  • @santiagopomi6451
    @santiagopomi6451 3 месяца назад +22

    I also put cornstarch and soy in the marinade when velveting

  • @Serene80
    @Serene80 3 месяца назад +49

    You... don't need to wash the meat. You generally can't taste the baking soda unless you put too much...

  • @CulturalProspect
    @CulturalProspect 4 месяца назад +49

    Do both. " Needle then, " velvet " . 🤷🏾

  • @jedb9677
    @jedb9677 4 месяца назад +6

    That's not the correct way to velvet meat. Kenji Lopez Alt describes the process much better. It's not just baking soda.

    • @VGJunky
      @VGJunky 4 месяца назад

      it can be
      you can also do corn starch, eggs, egg whites, and marinades, and he also suggest washing/squeezing out
      all those are just different ways to marinade

  • @martaaltheide5146
    @martaaltheide5146 4 месяца назад +57

    Yummy!
    Velveting for me I can’t store another gadget lol

    • @drdrew3
      @drdrew3 4 месяца назад +5

      Needling for me. I can’t spend an hour waiting for baking soda and drying

    • @theclimbingchef
      @theclimbingchef 4 месяца назад +5

      Just use a fork

    • @METVWETV
      @METVWETV 4 месяца назад

      ​@@theclimbingchef
      I actually have that exact gadget in my drawer for years!
      Would it be good to use on a London Broil?
      And if so, just how crazy do you get with it???

    • @theclimbingchef
      @theclimbingchef 4 месяца назад

      @timsans1170 yup, would be good for London broil. You can go over it a couple times, just make sure you wash it very thoroughly. Mechanical/manual punch type meat tenderizers are known for contaminating meat from not being washed properly. Never ever buy pretenderized meat from a store

    • @theclimbingchef
      @theclimbingchef 4 месяца назад

      @timsans1170 it's good, just wash it extremely well. Because there is so many touch points, it is a high cause for contamination.
      Never ever buy mechanically/manually tenderized meat. Always tenderize yourself

  • @Omega_Shanron
    @Omega_Shanron 4 месяца назад +70

    Velveting the meat helps the sauce to stick to it.
    It's not just about tenderising, it's about enhancing the meal as well.

  • @MarcusB69
    @MarcusB69 4 месяца назад +79

    Velveting for the win!!

  • @davidjiang1437
    @davidjiang1437 4 месяца назад +59

    As a Chinese, I've never seen anyone putting baking soda into meat....Just use corn starch and oil and cook with high heat, most tender meat you will eat

    • @LaraOlina
      @LaraOlina 3 месяца назад +9

      corn starch doesn't tenderize meat tho afaik it's used so the sauce sticks better.
      you can also use lemon juice, fish sauce or anything acidic. and I've seen other Chinese cooks recommend backing powder/soda as well.

    • @JesusIncarnationYHWH
      @JesusIncarnationYHWH 3 месяца назад

      no, that is not from chinese

    • @Avanity1
      @Avanity1 3 месяца назад +5

      Actually it is a common technique used in Chinese restaurants all the time but Chinese home cooks don't really do this.

    • @megacheese
      @megacheese 3 месяца назад +4

      Cornstarch keeps the inside moist, baking soda tenderizes the meat, it's an extremely common method i'm truly surprised you've never seen it before.

    • @SilentNights185
      @SilentNights185 3 месяца назад

      We do this at restaurants

  • @SoniaG024
    @SoniaG024 4 месяца назад +5

    Or ask your butcher to run it through the machine when you buy it. They know what you mean

  • @RaycerX19
    @RaycerX19 4 месяца назад +6

    Hi Shereen, love your stuff. Sometimes I marinate 15 min in fresh pineapple juice.

    • @vpham92688
      @vpham92688 4 месяца назад +2

      pineapple has natural enzymes to tenderize the meat..

  • @malachieclipse9507
    @malachieclipse9507 4 месяца назад +3

    I personally do 3 hours in a pineapple spiced slurry

  • @MrTonyharrell
    @MrTonyharrell 4 месяца назад +11

    What if,….I do both?👍

    • @Tropicalpisces
      @Tropicalpisces 4 месяца назад +3

      Give it a whirl. See what's up

    • @kylelanda8962
      @kylelanda8962 4 месяца назад +1

      Alternate universe will open

  • @MegaShyguy2
    @MegaShyguy2 4 месяца назад +6

    This looks okay, but check out wokgod's video for this brcause his is a more direct comparison. You seemed to cook each one differently which can impact the final result, where he cooks each sample in oil with no other thing to influence the tenderness

    • @kwhatten
      @kwhatten 2 месяца назад

      @MegaShyGuy2 WokGod ALSO velvets with baking soda.

  • @RydianCraig
    @RydianCraig 4 месяца назад +7

    Now I want fajitas real bad...

  • @owdeezstrauz
    @owdeezstrauz 3 месяца назад +1

    It doesn't matter which technique you use, the thing that's making it tender is cutting thin slices against the grain.

  • @Nameless-lk8ld
    @Nameless-lk8ld 3 месяца назад +1

    Not using that needle gadget. Parents used it and I am amazed we survived. The food poisoning potential is a NO from me. I took micro biology in college and that tool is a nightmare.😂 Velveting for the win! 🙌🙌🙌

  • @cmadd498
    @cmadd498 3 месяца назад +3

    Skirt steak is already tender. Try it with new york strip or flank that would be a test.

  • @sherridharpe2308
    @sherridharpe2308 4 месяца назад +1

    This is a very basic velveting. If u rlly want the meat to come out Tender nd delicous use cornstarch baking soda nd egg whites. U can add whatever Marinade ingrediants to for flavor like soy sauce or Mustard.

  • @pokemami
    @pokemami 4 месяца назад +2

    What if you do both? Would it make it more tender or just nasty?!

  • @paullee7071
    @paullee7071 4 месяца назад +2

    Skirt steak is pretty tender try with a sirloin to see if it really works. I could be wrong

  • @NathaliaMedina92
    @NathaliaMedina92 3 месяца назад +10

    I’ve tried tenderizing with kiwi or pineapple. It works great and adds beautiful flavor especially if you will be grilling the meat.

    • @Solonneysa
      @Solonneysa 3 месяца назад

      denaturing proteins with acid isn't the same as tenderizing

  • @IvanValerioCortesi
    @IvanValerioCortesi 4 месяца назад +53

    Just the perfect QUEEN in the kitchen

    • @Matryanic
      @Matryanic 4 месяца назад

      She might get an auntie title from Uncle Roger!

  • @ArmandoDy
    @ArmandoDy 4 месяца назад +1

    🤤🤤🤤🤤👍👍👍👍

  • @snoyes5687
    @snoyes5687 4 месяца назад +6

    Man I wish we were friends. LOL.

  • @sarahsmithers4725
    @sarahsmithers4725 4 месяца назад +1

    I had zero idea what I had in my possession. I inherited a needle tenderizer and thought it was a hard boiled egg slicer…🙂‍↔️🙄

  • @StinkyCatFarts
    @StinkyCatFarts 3 месяца назад +1

    Please remove your jewellery when handling meat

  • @nononsense5182
    @nononsense5182 3 месяца назад +2

    I needle mine with a FORK 💯😁😅Shereen!!
    Both ways look DELICIOUS 😋

  • @turtle4llama
    @turtle4llama 4 месяца назад +2

    Velvetting is so easy and effective, I can't imagine using any other method.

  • @KateCarew
    @KateCarew 3 месяца назад +3

    I really appreciate the frankness here
    Love the options and side by side too
    Thanks Shareen!

  • @GNunya
    @GNunya 4 месяца назад +5

    This was a good video. Thank you.

  • @bg_qlf4161
    @bg_qlf4161 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm poor so I'll just go with the chinese method

  • @CrashBashL
    @CrashBashL 4 месяца назад +13

    Don't wash the meat after......

    • @swepea6558
      @swepea6558 4 месяца назад +1

      No it has to be or it will have a funny taste unlike cornstarch which does not have an aftertaste

    • @marche434
      @marche434 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@swepea6558no it doesnt if you just add a little bit, i have done it a million times

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad 4 месяца назад +3

      Agree, don’t wash it.

    • @johnjacoLMSW
      @johnjacoLMSW 4 месяца назад

      Use potato starch, NOT CS

    • @CrashBashL
      @CrashBashL 4 месяца назад +2

      @@johnjacoLMSW Potato starch does not tenderize the meat.

  • @ghoulofmetal
    @ghoulofmetal 4 месяца назад +3

    What happens if you do both?

    • @KarlMacKinnon
      @KarlMacKinnon 3 месяца назад

      Someone on a different continent will spontaneously combust.

  • @mikehoncho1706
    @mikehoncho1706 Месяц назад +1

    Yeah the Chinese way is such a waste. No surpise

  • @tylerrock1453
    @tylerrock1453 4 месяца назад +1

    Tough cut? Do you know the definition?

  • @observer8736
    @observer8736 3 месяца назад +1

    You should try to marinate the tough meat with papaya. It's a strong tenderizer.

    • @babajaiy8246
      @babajaiy8246 28 дней назад

      Same with pineapple...in fact too strong...shouldn't be left for long at all.

  • @Matryanic
    @Matryanic 4 месяца назад +26

    Somebody tagged Uncle Roger!!! I think we have a new auntie here!

  • @mikemaffe
    @mikemaffe 4 месяца назад +1

    Don’t talk with your mouth full….

  • @907Opa
    @907Opa 22 дня назад +1

    That's not how you velvet beef.

  • @errorusernamenotfound-wf5yz
    @errorusernamenotfound-wf5yz 4 месяца назад +1

    What if you do both. Will it be too tender?

  • @corey7975
    @corey7975 3 месяца назад +1

    Rinse the meat in cold water for at least 30 minutes before velveting the meat. makes a huge difference

  • @ljss6805
    @ljss6805 4 месяца назад +1

    Wait.. what if I do BOTH?!

  • @nicholasporter6693
    @nicholasporter6693 4 месяца назад +1

    Don't talk with your mouth full

  • @gjallahorn4086
    @gjallahorn4086 4 месяца назад +1

    Need;ing is way healthier. If you want to get your meat to absorb flavour, mix it with cornstarch.

  • @billmurphy8661
    @billmurphy8661 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice. Now you guys come out to California. We'll show how to drink wine :0)

  • @kitcar2000
    @kitcar2000 4 месяца назад +1

    Velveting also improves the flavour by speeding the maillard reaction.

  • @damondej
    @damondej 4 месяца назад +1

    How do they tenderize kabob Barg? Is it with meat tenderizer in the marinade? I know they aren’t using filet mignon so I’m sure it’s skirt steak, I’ve wondered this forever, please help!

    • @richardellinghaus7752
      @richardellinghaus7752 4 месяца назад +1

      I have an Iranian in-law so I can help! Those are typically beef tenderloin. That's why it's so tender. You can absolutely use skirt and use a needle tenderizer. You can also use something like lamb which is pretty tender already.

  • @louielouie22
    @louielouie22 4 месяца назад +1

    Beautiful and talented 😊🤌

  • @asher439
    @asher439 4 месяца назад +1

    What about doing both together?

  • @palidus
    @palidus 3 месяца назад +1

    fk i feel like randy marsh

  • @lancerogers9694
    @lancerogers9694 4 месяца назад +1

    It’s a fajita… very fajita

  • @debstone4062
    @debstone4062 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you❤ rinse the meat !!

  • @kaiookalanikanuha2613
    @kaiookalanikanuha2613 3 месяца назад +1

    Ancient Chinese secret!!

  • @alexmullane3154
    @alexmullane3154 4 месяца назад +1

    What about doing both???

  • @WhoGitDaBiscuit
    @WhoGitDaBiscuit 4 месяца назад +1

    How about both? Needle then baking soda

  • @nigelfinance3310
    @nigelfinance3310 3 месяца назад

    That way the meat will taste bitter from the soda!!
    Try This... 1-2 Tspn baking soda in a bowl, 1 cup cold water, 1/4 cup soy sauce. Mix. Add meat. Sit in fridge for 2 hrs or overnight. Drain & cook.
    (It's the HK way!😉)
    Your welcome!!

  • @johnsonrob
    @johnsonrob 4 месяца назад

    Is it just me..?
    Always on a Friday, when I've had a little gin...
    Sorry Mr. Shereen, really.
    But you must know...
    You luck guy..!

  • @Proven_Data
    @Proven_Data 4 месяца назад +1

    How about doing both to it?

  • @ItsYaBoiV
    @ItsYaBoiV 3 месяца назад

    I like velveting only because I usually have to buy meat on the cheap (I'm poor and meat is really expensive here) and you can turn some really questionable cuts into melt-in-your-mouth morsels by switching what you use, like soy sauce!

  • @demekonrn
    @demekonrn 3 месяца назад +7

    She's so likable😊

  • @twinqt578
    @twinqt578 3 месяца назад

    HER: You could do it both ways.
    BISEXUALS: 🎉🤪💃😅

  • @williamhill4163
    @williamhill4163 4 месяца назад +1

    What about both?

  • @PeenWienerstien
    @PeenWienerstien 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for telling me ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

  • @carwashadamcooper1538
    @carwashadamcooper1538 3 месяца назад

    I have never, ever had tough Skirt Steak.
    Cooking is important, but really it's all about how you slice it.
    If it's tough, you screwed up.

  • @claywebb786
    @claywebb786 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm interested in seeing both techniques on the same piece

  • @michaelbresciani7390
    @michaelbresciani7390 3 месяца назад +2

    Shereen! Youre the best!

  • @chaser1928
    @chaser1928 4 месяца назад +1

    Or do both 😮

  • @DisasterZone-rh1wh
    @DisasterZone-rh1wh 4 месяца назад +12

    I really value your content and you do a great job with editing and presentation. I sure wish I could take a class from you

    • @debdoepke9866
      @debdoepke9866 4 месяца назад

      This would be a great side gig, earning the income you and your content deserve.

  • @shroomsoda
    @shroomsoda 2 месяца назад

    Yeah I'm not leaving raw meat out for 30 minutes. Good luck

  • @pv3Hpv3p
    @pv3Hpv3p 4 месяца назад +1

    Why not both?

  • @mxyplex
    @mxyplex 4 месяца назад

    It's skirt steak, it's already very tender. This was gonna prove... Nothing..

  • @iamza.
    @iamza. 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow... How helpful this was....

  • @nuclearstudios651
    @nuclearstudios651 4 месяца назад +2

    It’s been 6 years and I still love her

  • @MtnBadger
    @MtnBadger 4 месяца назад +1

    I bought a needle tenderizer and never looked back.

  • @Mykeynikey22331
    @Mykeynikey22331 3 месяца назад

    Velveting is natural to me now. It works so well, but more importantly, IT'S EASY

  • @drdreas
    @drdreas 3 месяца назад

    Skirt steak already tender... so step 1... eliminate that variable.

  • @alw5101
    @alw5101 3 месяца назад

    With the grain- against the grain… I’m so confused! H ELP ME!

  • @angelcitystudio
    @angelcitystudio Месяц назад

    I always velvet my beef and chicken! always! It was the best thing I ever discovered on the internet.

  • @wndrwmn44
    @wndrwmn44 3 месяца назад

    Bad test subject. Skirt steak is pretty much always tender. (granted the cook doesn't massacre the slicing)

  • @oldschoolprince4714
    @oldschoolprince4714 4 месяца назад

    What would the ratio be for “with the grain” vs. “against the grain” cut? Is it going to come out roughly uniform squares, or are you looking for thin strips?

  • @shinuftw
    @shinuftw 3 месяца назад

    Should try adding some water to the baking soda when velveting.

  • @vpham92688
    @vpham92688 4 месяца назад

    just don't use too much baking soda.. over-velveted beef is mushy..

  • @FKnivesCustomBladesAndHandles
    @FKnivesCustomBladesAndHandles 3 месяца назад

    Isn't that skirt steak? It's already super tender??

  • @brown_and_curly_ne_girly4551
    @brown_and_curly_ne_girly4551 4 месяца назад

    Why did that look so unappetizing to me? It’s the sauce I think? Idk. Weird cause I usually would like that.

  • @chrisklark4879
    @chrisklark4879 3 месяца назад

    Why would you use good meat like skirt steak for Velveting?? you should use something tough like London broil

  • @katinapac-baez5083
    @katinapac-baez5083 3 месяца назад

    30mins! Naw, that's not necessary, 10mins to 15 is usually plenty.

  • @rjohnson610
    @rjohnson610 4 месяца назад

    When i was pregnant with my 2nd, I velveted meat. I followed these exact steps. It left behind a distinct flavor that made me sick. 10 years later, I still can't eat velveted meat.

  • @jenetalong6452
    @jenetalong6452 4 месяца назад

    I'm chocolate can you adopt me... I have a culinary degree, but I bake only. And I do pretty good soul food.

  • @tommothedog
    @tommothedog 4 месяца назад

    "Feels illegal to wet the beef" Hunny, if your husband aint pleasing you at home.....

  • @Siladzy
    @Siladzy 4 месяца назад

    You haven’t showed up in my for u page in a while. I love seeing you! Don’t tell my mom but you might just be the most beautiful woman in the world.

  • @greatbigbeodorant
    @greatbigbeodorant 3 месяца назад

    How do i safely sanitize my sink after washing the raw beef in it without bleach?

  • @AndrewB383
    @AndrewB383 4 месяца назад

    What happens if you use a jaccard/needle tenderizer then velvet that product, and rehyadrate with a soy/beef tallow?

  • @Lomax81
    @Lomax81 2 месяца назад

    I have a kinda messed up tongue that can be over sensitive to certain things like if I eat salty fries, then drink soda, it's gonna give me raised white lines... For some reason when we velvet the meat, it triggers the same reaction and it sucks cuz it really does make the meat so tender. The really weird thing is it doesn't happen when we order the same dish from take out 🤷‍♂️

  • @darklordofsword
    @darklordofsword 3 месяца назад

    My 2 cents; velveting you don't need a special tool for.