My father died of cancer & my step Father just went through Kimo and radiation treament. You have a valid point about cancer not being a choice. The point Dr. Drew was making was not that drug rehab is worse than having cancer but that statisticly those diognosed with cancer have a better recovery rate than those who go through drug treatment. Just stats to bring awareness to the amount of people who dont make it though can bring a bit of perspective we might not have had without the comparisen
I would ne curious to see how Dr. Drew´s synapses, brain cells, dopamine, ect, would react to complete and sudden abstinence from any drug addicted patients.
why can't I have someone like Dr. Drew, and a rehab group that care about me. I have no one, my husband has abandoned me, turned my children against me, I live in the study and no one talks to me, I've been suffering from childhood abuse, I developed Borderline Personality disorder, drank and started using drugs, pot, then bennies, and cocaine, but stopped mostly, breakdown, hosp. and presc. drugs. 30 years later I'm still on presc.drugs, deep depression, some violence, I HAVE NO ONE, WHY?
I think its good that Dr Drew and other physicians are finally recognizing drug addiction as a medical/psychiatric condition rather than one of personal willpower. If it was a matter of willpower, of course everyone would stop immediately.
It is a complicated matter, them being on TV. I'm under the impression that most of the clients would go out to use regardless of the cameras and that Dr. Drew's intent was for the cameras to be a deterrent, as if to say "You can't hide your addiction." I'm also still under the impression that this show is very educational and it has motivated me to involve myself in studying the psychology of addiction. Good times though
doesnt mean you are a bad person. If you ask most heroin addicts, like 90 percent of them would give anything to quit. But they can't which defines addiction. When most addicts get into treatment and get the disease under control they become outsanding members of society. They go out of their way to help other people. They are so greatful to have gotten it under control.
compulsion isn't a disease, it's a symptom OF the disease. Like i said before, many people who are "addicted" to cigarettes and caffeine are NOT actually addicts. that word gets thrown around a lot and is often miss-used. There are MANY drugs out there that after repeated exposure cause a dependence, but being dependent on a drug does not make you an addict. Addiction requires specific genetics.
as for sex addiction, many people these days are saying it has all the same properties as chemical addiction. i haven't really looked into it... If you HAVE been doing research for months i apologize for calling you stupid in my first post. I also feel strongly about this issue because i am a recovering addict and the disease-model addiction treatment has saved my life...
I found the "Eyes of Nye" episode about addiction is very interesting and I recommend it since it covers many different views of addiction. It asks many questions and picks apart addiction from different sides so at the end you can make a decision.
Trying to help and actually helping are two different things. 12step facilitation ranked slightly higher than free AA in effectiveness. AA has about the same effectiveness as no treatment at all, except that those who fail at AA tend to fail more spectacularly. More binge drinking, more rearrests, more deaths. Bad treatment is not superior to no treatment. The road paved with good intentions and all that....
I think adam said it best..."If your on a plane and someone has a heart attack. And someone says "We need a Dr.!" You want Dr. Drew not Dr. Phil or Dr. J or any other celeb "Dr.". Drew is an actual Doctor, Physican, M.D.
Thankyou about time, nobody chooses this to happen to them. Men at work sung WHAT IS WRONG IN MY LIFE THAT I GET DRUNK ETC. It could happen to ANYBODY. If you have a acciedent and need pain relieve, you could get hooked. This is fantastic to educate small minded judgeaMENTAL people.
if you watched the show, it said that statistics show that you have a 1 in 10 chance of getting the disease under control when entering rehab. You can't relate because you've never been addicted to a substance. Once you have addiction your brain actually tell you that you need this substance to survive. People who quit their drug without getting treatment will, a lot of times commit suicide because of their severe depression if they do not relapse. And just becuase you are an addict
Therefore we always called it an illness, or a malady - a far safer term for us to use. - Bill W 1960 In a talk given to a gathering of American Roman Catholic Bishops.
Of course in traditional disease concepts of addiction emphasis is put on the chemical and personality "shortcomings", while what makes life truly meaningful, like meaningful work or relationships, come second. My "sponsor" during court ordered "treatment" was dependent on anti-depressants for decades.........
@littlekittie1261 It's not realistic to expect people to knock on your door ad babysit you into health. The individual must want to change and then reach out and get the help they need. Statistically speaking, rehabs don't work. 97% of those completing treatment are drinking and using again within a year of release. I say this from an informed standpoint as a former rehab counselor and as a long-term recovered alcoholic. Clean up your own mess.
Re-read friend. I'm saying the VERY things you need to do to overcome depression, like have meaningful work and relationships is given second place to treating some "disease". RET has proven to be as effective as drugs. I tossed the drugs, got "Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy", DID the exercises, and fired the counselors and therapists, so can most anyone......
I feel that Dr. Drew is a good, kind-hearted, intelligent man who truly believes what he's doing is the right thing. However I think he's sorely mistaken about just about everything, due to the fact that he learned about addiction from a medical textbook, written by an ex-doctor who learned about addiction from an OLDER medical textbook, etc etc. The problem is when actual addicts try to share their views on addiction/recovery, the doctors say "oh he's just a junkie he doesn't know anything"
Dr Drew is the man It's def a disease and I have the same compassion for someone dealing with this and for someone dealing with cancer. Who am I to pass judgment on someone just because they are a celebrity? Everyone deserves a second chance (and in some cases 3rd, 4th, 5th)
You either have the proprability to be addicted or not depression or excitement doesnt really effect it because its about the same, people use it for coping with depression and then end up abusing, and then the other end uses them to get the ultimate high. The real deciding factor is right in your brain's wiring and thats decided in large part by your genetics. If you have a history of addiction in your family, mental illness as well, you have a higher likelyhood to get addicted than another.
@Markey0086 I agree with your points.... but drugs aren't probably going to be legalized because private sectors and big corporate banks have been making quite the profit by outlawing drugs. it's a business and it's one of the main reasons why america's economy is at the top of the food chain.
I was turned off by Dr. Drew around 4-years ago because once a young lady called the show and was clearly depressed and thinking about throwing in the towel. Drew was cold and harsh towards her and said some crap about how she was just trying to get attention, and so he hung up on her and the show went on. After that I never much liked the guy.
Dr. Drew should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Phil. Dr.Drew Pinsky actually is a real board certified MD of Internal Medecine/Additcion speacialist and has been helping people for years on his radio show loveline while also doing real work in a hospital while not on the air. All you people who have never heard of him until Celeb Rehab have no idea what your talking about. He genuinley wants to help people, he doesn't need ratings, hes already pretty well off being a Doctor.
@carlyjenna1618 We have never called alcoholism a disease because, technically speaking, it is not a disease entity. For example, there is no such thing as heart disease. Instead there are many separate heart ailment, or combinations of them. It is something like that with alcoholism. Therefore we did not wish to get in wrong with the medical profession by pronouncing alcoholism a disease entity. CONTINUED
I hate it when drug addicts are compared to cancer patients. You can just stop drinking or using drugs anytime you want, but you can't just stop having cancer by choice. Its a dumb comparison.
a68rebel: then cancer, leukemia, and the like are weaknesses. because like addiction, they have a biological basis, they have a direct impact on the thought processes of those affected. so i guess every sickness is a weakness
I think they word "addict" gets thrown around too much and is often confused with "dependent". addiction is a biological process, meaning you have to inherit the disease from a parent who also has the genetic predisposition for addiction. i'm guessing this does not apply to some people who smoke. it also does not apply to some people who become dependent on drugs. Non-addicts will quit when the negative consequences outweigh the positive, an addict will not. that's the definition of addiction
ANY1 who attempts to compare drug addition 2 Cancer should be Slapped. U choose ur first hit, u dont choose Cancer. My mom died last month from Cancer caused by asbestos poisoning. I watched her wither away into nothing, tumors blocking her intestines, forcing her to choke on her own bile, I held her in my arms as she went thru extreme pain, confusion, and then death. She had NO choice these ppl had a choice b4 becoming addicted, I dnt care how crappy ur life is or how depressed u r!
hello im steven im have been on xanax 17 yrs and oxycodone 7 yrs now those are my worsts addictions besides sex addiction im 41 yrs old im in victorvile ca
There are genetic, biochemical, physiological, environmental, etc components to the disease of addiction, as someone else mentioned it is a disease not a matter of self-will - the science supports the neurophysiology and neurochemistry of the disease of addiction. please before you judge and criticize those suffering from such a debilitating and life-threatening illness do your research and find your compassion and humanity. These people are suffering they need treatment and care
the do about as much for "addicts" (which is defined as everything from full on junkies to anyone who drinks a beer more than once a day) as the dog whisperer does for spending 6 hours with a dog. They offered Artie Lange half a million to do the show and he turned them down because he's not an asshole.
It's misleading to have the title of this be 'Drugs Worse Than Cancer?', when in reality he said the prognosis is worse, not that drugs or addiction is somehow qualitatively worse than cancer. Obviously that is not what the question is.
It's alright to disagree with the idea of addiction being a disease, but don't put down Dr. Drew. There is no reason to attack someone who is only out to help people.
@carlyjenna1618 THANK YOU Sir or Miss i was a addicted and im so glad you are sticking up for us. Alot of people use it as a excuse oh well i cant help it its a disease, but for the most part its true and i can tell you this from living threw it. you have a good soul and are caring im glad you under stand and have empathy. I wish more in this world would relize this becuase its still so backward in this country. I mean do we send people that have a diabetic low to jail for doing something wrong.
It is not unusual for addicts to want to be excused from looking at the compounded consequences of years of choosing addiction. And there are plenty of professionals ready to make their name and fortune by excusing them with the pseudo disease label. It is behaviourism, we are fallible, it is mostly caused by forgivable cognitive ignorance. Leave the celebs alone in their addiction, let them be ordinary in their addiction, it is cameras that spread the rot, not celebs.
Would you rather have Pancreatic Cancer or a drug problem? One you can make go away whenever you want, the other is probably just going to kill you and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
well in my opinion, i think that it would be the same thing with drugs being legal or illegal. i think that by informing everyone about what could happen if they start consuming drugs, and how hard it is to treat an adiction etc.etc. will lower the consumers rate and drug dealers wouldnt sell that much... a few could be saved..... lol im From Mexico.... Thats my opinion =D Sorry for my English
@carlyjenna1618 I just want to interject that the same people who don't agree that addiction should be qualified as a disease, also believe that it SHOULDN'T be recognized as a disease by definition. I just think it's makes the word a lot less useful. It's a broader term. Cancer patients didn't have a choice in their "disease" in most cases. I believe in PHYSICAL CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY,A PERSON creates that when starting to abuse something for mental coping reasons, not because a DISEASE compels.
I would work on putting together some intelligent points, other than "its a choice" yes thats true..but the choices are made because of imbalances and a dependency brought on by their sickness..you obviously never known anyone with an addiction..even though they know they are killing themselves..they cant stop without TREATMENT.that personal inability to stop something inside from killing you..can also be another characteristic of it being a disease.
@vereniceruiz I agree, but they're just there to show people what rehab really is. They're no crazier then a lot of my friends who have been addicts. No one would watch if you had Tony from the Bronx on the show, and he's done his time. It's not like Dr Drew just started doing rehab with celebrities. He's talked about how most of his practice is with average people.
Addiction is not a disease, and the treating it as a disease has argubly done more damage then help. I am tired of treating these people who want to party and have no responsibility and then say"I have a disease" I am tired of treating them with kid gloves lke babys. I want to stay out all night and blow coke and drink and party too the difference is i take responsibilty for my life and I say NO
Ibangedyourmum: do you have any basic knowledge of medicine or are you just looking for similar things? How was shellshock/battle fatigue/PTSD the fault of the person suffering from it? My great grandfather came out of the first world war with an inability to speak for 30 years. Do you really think he did that deliberately? It changed the name from shell shock to PTSD as it can be caused by any trauma (Shell Shock was also called Nervous Shock or Brain Fever when it was not applied in war)
@bigrigbob2010 Ya - I'm treating Lyme Disease right now - and the mental aspect to it is just as demanding as the physical deterioration. anyhow - nice talkin with ya
and you didnt respond to my other point.are people who get cancer from smoking not allowed to call their cancer a disease then? or how about someone who drinks their whole life and gets liver sclerosis.those arnt diseases either then huh..you say its a choice.what about someone who has major back surgery a few times and, not by their choice, but their doctor puts them on serious pain killers to treat them and they cant help but become addicted, because that happens all the time
If Dr. Drew wants to show what a rehab is all about, why did he cut all the AA/NA/12step references in the show? Why doesn't he come out and say what 12step treatment is all about: faith healing?
I mean don't get me wrong i'm not trying to undermine their struggles. I know because i've struggled with some of this shit also. I'm just saying I wouldn't call it a disease because it gives the wrong implication of I can't stop this. I mean yes it's hard but you can.
@carlyjenna1618 and i'm not just saying that as someone who knows nothing about being addicted. Trust me. I don't mean to offend you. People with diseases, and chemical dependency DO need help. Medical help and treatment for the underlying mental issues that plague them. I just think they should be separated by a slight degree. The symptoms can be very similar at times. I understand. I've just always been bothered by that wording. Wishing the best!
Okay this is what I don't fucking get...these people in drug rehab go through step by step courses to better themselves because of their drug use or drug addiction. Don't get me wrong I'm all for that to get people better...but my friend down the road who did the same exact shit got 5 years in fucking prison but the people on the show just go to rehab? That's fucking ridiculous...get my friend out of jail and put him in rehab or get these people out of rehab and put them in jail. Thats not fair.
why wouldn't portugal allow me to sell drugs ? that would mean it'll be illegal . i wouldn't mind paying taxes on them either the original topic is about the many users, not dealers, imagine how many more users we'll have. users still need money to get high, they'll still do crimes to get high. how can one monitor a drug user ? legal or not ! it's a no win situation Markey
Or maybe hes trying to bring the real life struggles of addiction into the mainstream. So people can see what this disease is all about. Whats wrong with that? It must suck being the type of person that immediately assumes that people are always out to exploit or do negative things.I think hes using the fame he already has to shine a light on something he has dedicated his entire life to..something he dedicated way before he was a "celebrity"
@carlyjenna1618 drug addiction is "affected" by self-will. U have to first WANT to break addiction & find the strength to go thru with detox and withstand withdrawal. I do believe drug addiction can be sort of looked at as a disease, and thats because it becomes physical, but Most ppl (most anyway) are not born addicted to drugs or even forced to do drugs in the first place. Sum r depressed, wanna "feel" good, escape reality etc, sum are followers or think its cool. either way 1st times a choice
calling it a disease does nothing to strip personal responsibility. You need to do some research on how addiction is treated. It's all about personal responsibility. Every credible Doctor working in the field disagrees with everything you just said.
Yeah and Britneys psycho dad made her go to psych ward. And we all know now what kinda person he is. I don't think britney was nearly as bad as what was said. Her dad just wanted to keep her money, and he still does to this day.
if addiction isnt a disease and is just bad choice making then explain to me how lab rats, primates, and insects all have been addicted to things. they have all been studied to have addiction when exposed to certain drugs. well i guess the bees just made bad choices and were weak. or, if you want to get scientific, all animals have a reward section of the brain. its what makes men feel good after sex, its what makes you like something new. it is also what gets rewired after you become an addict.
@blortner At this point that is like saying the sky is blue. No offense to you, in fact it's a good thing that this issue is becoming so obvious to so many people. It's time to wake up the few remaining sleepers and get this revolution started already.
Im watching this show. and im cheering my idole janice dickinson on! The other patients are so mean and pick on her then they wonder why shes so fast to counter attack now
@eminem865 I agree its a good show, but duinay2 is right he does ask some dumb questions sometimes. Like when that Rachel chick was telling him she doesnt always buy Janice's crap and that she is sometimes just seeking attention. he's all... "What do u mean" she says it again like in dummy terms... he's all, but What exactly do you mean?? I'm like wtf, Its like having a convo with Keanu Reeves sometimes, U should see him on The 16 and preganant reunion shows, lmao.
@vereniceruiz It's difficult finding out how to feel about these "celebs" that are on this show. The way I see it, these people are insanely selfish, don't deserve what they have, and frankly probably not the type of people I would feel comfortable around my kids. But, they are only human. They are where they are not entirely because of themselves, but because of everything else around them. Our culture and our society and our environment allows for it. They need help, so why bash em?
Wow. It amazes me how hateful & ignorant some of these comments are (pls tell me all the rude comments r mostly written by immature teenagers, who just don't know any better, or have any common human decency). Dr. Drew is seriously trying to help these courageous patients. & yes, some of the things they do on camera r dumb, but believe me (& i don;t care who u r, same for anyone) if u were going thru wds off major narcotics w/cameras in ur face--you'd do stupid stuff, too. TY, Dr Drew.
You are one dumb person. I have actually been through multiple rehabs. An actor or celebrity, even if they say they can, cannot in any way focus the way they need on their recovery while having to think about how they appear on tv at the same time. Don't sit here and tell me the celebs are capable of just being completely authentic and real in front of the camera. Bull! The type of personality required to be a celeb like most of the ones on the show means they are always acting, a part of them is always on "show". So with that being the truth it's completely irresponsible and down right evil for producers to pay those actors to appear on a tv show while attending drug treatment for a deadly disease. You are one stupid person
Dr. Drew is passionate, passionate, PASSIONAAAAAAATE man
Dr. Drew is a passionate, passionate man.
My father died of cancer & my step Father just went through Kimo and radiation treament. You have a valid point about cancer not being a choice. The point Dr. Drew was making was not that drug rehab is worse than having cancer but that statisticly those diognosed with cancer have a better recovery rate than those who go through drug treatment. Just stats to bring awareness to the amount of people who dont make it though can bring a bit of perspective we might not have had without the comparisen
I would ne curious to see how Dr. Drew´s synapses, brain cells, dopamine, ect, would react to complete and sudden abstinence from any drug addicted patients.
He was also in the movie, "New York Minute" with Ashley Olsen and Mary Kate Olsen. He played their dad.
why can't I have someone like Dr. Drew, and a rehab group that care about me. I have no one, my husband has abandoned me, turned my children against me, I live in the study and no one talks to me, I've been suffering from childhood abuse, I developed Borderline Personality disorder, drank and started using drugs, pot, then bennies, and cocaine, but stopped mostly, breakdown, hosp. and presc. drugs. 30 years later I'm still on presc.drugs, deep depression, some violence, I HAVE NO ONE, WHY?
I think its good that Dr Drew and other physicians are finally recognizing drug addiction as a medical/psychiatric condition rather than one of personal willpower. If it was a matter of willpower, of course everyone would stop immediately.
It is a complicated matter, them being on TV. I'm under the impression that most of the clients would go out to use regardless of the cameras and that Dr. Drew's intent was for the cameras to be a deterrent, as if to say "You can't hide your addiction." I'm also still under the impression that this show is very educational and it has motivated me to involve myself in studying the psychology of addiction. Good times though
doesnt mean you are a bad person. If you ask most heroin addicts, like 90 percent of them would give anything to quit. But they can't which defines addiction. When most addicts get into treatment and get the disease under control they become outsanding members of society. They go out of their way to help other people. They are so greatful to have gotten it under control.
compulsion isn't a disease, it's a symptom OF the disease. Like i said before, many people who are "addicted" to cigarettes and caffeine are NOT actually addicts. that word gets thrown around a lot and is often miss-used. There are MANY drugs out there that after repeated exposure cause a dependence, but being dependent on a drug does not make you an addict. Addiction requires specific genetics.
as for sex addiction, many people these days are saying it has all the same properties as chemical addiction. i haven't really looked into it...
If you HAVE been doing research for months i apologize for calling you stupid in my first post. I also feel strongly about this issue because i am a recovering addict and the disease-model addiction treatment has saved my life...
I found the "Eyes of Nye" episode about addiction is very interesting and I recommend it since it covers many different views of addiction. It asks many questions and picks apart addiction from different sides so at the end you can make a decision.
Trying to help and actually helping are two different things. 12step facilitation ranked slightly higher than free AA in effectiveness. AA has about the same effectiveness as no treatment at all, except that those who fail at AA tend to fail more spectacularly. More binge drinking, more rearrests, more deaths.
Bad treatment is not superior to no treatment. The road paved with good intentions and all that....
I LOVE his voice
Dr. Drew rocks!
I think adam said it best..."If your on a plane and someone has a heart attack. And someone says "We need a Dr.!" You want Dr. Drew not Dr. Phil or Dr. J or any other celeb "Dr.". Drew is an actual Doctor, Physican, M.D.
He recognizes Keri Ann as having some other issues besides substances- You must have missed that show.
Thankyou about time, nobody chooses this to happen to them. Men at work sung WHAT IS WRONG IN MY LIFE THAT I GET DRUNK ETC. It could happen to ANYBODY. If you have a acciedent and need pain relieve, you could get hooked. This is fantastic to educate small minded judgeaMENTAL people.
if you watched the show, it said that statistics show that you have a 1 in 10 chance of getting the disease under control when entering rehab.
You can't relate because you've never been addicted to a substance. Once you have addiction your brain actually tell you that you need this substance to survive. People who quit their drug without getting treatment will, a lot of times commit suicide because of their severe depression if they do not relapse. And just becuase you are an addict
Therefore we always called it an illness, or a malady - a far safer term for us to use.
- Bill W 1960 In a talk given to a gathering of American Roman Catholic Bishops.
Of course in traditional disease concepts of addiction emphasis is put on the chemical and personality "shortcomings", while what makes life truly meaningful, like meaningful work or relationships, come second. My "sponsor" during court ordered "treatment" was dependent on anti-depressants for decades.........
@littlekittie1261 It's not realistic to expect people to knock on your door ad babysit you into health. The individual must want to change and then reach out and get the help they need. Statistically speaking, rehabs don't work.
97% of those completing treatment are drinking and using again within a year of release. I say this from an informed standpoint as a former rehab counselor and as a long-term recovered alcoholic. Clean up your own mess.
Re-read friend. I'm saying the VERY things you need to do to overcome depression, like have meaningful work and relationships is given second place to treating some "disease". RET has proven to be as effective as drugs. I tossed the drugs, got "Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy", DID the exercises, and fired the counselors and therapists, so can most anyone......
I feel that Dr. Drew is a good, kind-hearted, intelligent man who truly believes what he's doing is the right thing. However I think he's sorely mistaken about just about everything, due to the fact that he learned about addiction from a medical textbook, written by an ex-doctor who learned about addiction from an OLDER medical textbook, etc etc.
The problem is when actual addicts try to share their views on addiction/recovery, the doctors say "oh he's just a junkie he doesn't know anything"
Dr Drew is the man
It's def a disease and I have the same compassion for someone dealing with this and for someone dealing with cancer. Who am I to pass judgment on someone just because they are a celebrity?
Everyone deserves a second chance (and in some cases 3rd, 4th, 5th)
Wait 1 year and have a reunion show. Wonder how many will still be sober? If even one makes it, i'll be surprised-and be happy for that one success.
I am paramedic in so cal, alcohol is by far the most detrimental substance out there....bar none.
You either have the proprability to be addicted or not depression or excitement doesnt really effect it because its about the same, people use it for coping with depression and then end up abusing, and then the other end uses them to get the ultimate high. The real deciding factor is right in your brain's wiring and thats decided in large part by your genetics. If you have a history of addiction in your family, mental illness as well, you have a higher likelyhood to get addicted than another.
@Markey0086 I agree with your points.... but drugs aren't probably going to be legalized because private sectors and big corporate banks have been making quite the profit by outlawing drugs. it's a business and it's one of the main reasons why america's economy is at the top of the food chain.
I was turned off by Dr. Drew around 4-years ago because once a young lady called the show and was clearly depressed and thinking about throwing in the towel. Drew was cold and harsh towards her and said some crap about how she was just trying to get attention, and so he hung up on her and the show went on. After that I never much liked the guy.
ru for real? Dr. Drew is amazing! he helped get clean.
Does anyone know if there will be a Celeb. Rehab Season 2?
I hope Jessica is doing better... have not heard about her in awhile.
Dr. Drew should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Phil. Dr.Drew Pinsky actually is a real board certified MD of Internal Medecine/Additcion speacialist and has been helping people for years on his radio show loveline while also doing real work in a hospital while not on the air. All you people who have never heard of him until Celeb Rehab have no idea what your talking about. He genuinley wants to help people, he doesn't need ratings, hes already pretty well off being a Doctor.
@carlyjenna1618 We have never called alcoholism a disease because, technically speaking, it is not a disease entity. For example, there is no such thing as heart disease. Instead there are many separate heart ailment, or combinations of them. It is something like that with alcoholism. Therefore we did not wish to get in wrong with the medical profession by pronouncing alcoholism a disease entity. CONTINUED
i listen to loveline everynight very big fan an some stuff people ask.. i want to ask but he answers it.. to what i can understand very well..
I hate it when drug addicts are compared to cancer patients. You can just stop drinking or using drugs anytime you want, but you can't just stop having cancer by choice. Its a dumb comparison.
listen to this guy every night on "Loveline" pretty awesome
a68rebel: then cancer, leukemia, and the like are weaknesses. because like addiction, they have a biological basis, they have a direct impact on the thought processes of those affected. so i guess every sickness is a weakness
I think they word "addict" gets thrown around too much and is often confused with "dependent". addiction is a biological process, meaning you have to inherit the disease from a parent who also has the genetic predisposition for addiction. i'm guessing this does not apply to some people who smoke. it also does not apply to some people who become dependent on drugs. Non-addicts will quit when the negative consequences outweigh the positive, an addict will not. that's the definition of addiction
ANY1 who attempts to compare drug addition 2 Cancer should be Slapped. U choose ur first hit, u dont choose Cancer. My mom died last month from Cancer caused by asbestos poisoning. I watched her wither away into nothing, tumors blocking her intestines, forcing her to choke on her own bile, I held her in my arms as she went thru extreme pain, confusion, and then death. She had NO choice these ppl had a choice b4 becoming addicted, I dnt care how crappy ur life is or how depressed u r!
good program. should be support by govt
hello im steven im have been on xanax 17 yrs and oxycodone 7 yrs now those are my worsts addictions besides sex addiction im 41 yrs old im in victorvile ca
Most extremely addicted people (ones who need to go see Dr. Drew) have extreme trauma in their childhood.
I agree.
Diseases can have neurological systems.
There are genetic, biochemical, physiological, environmental, etc components to the disease of addiction, as someone else mentioned it is a disease not a matter of self-will - the science supports the neurophysiology and neurochemistry of the disease of addiction. please before you judge and criticize those suffering from such a debilitating and life-threatening illness do your research and find your compassion and humanity. These people are suffering they need treatment and care
he's right
i agree with you
the do about as much for "addicts" (which is defined as everything from full on junkies to anyone who drinks a beer more than once a day) as the dog whisperer does for spending 6 hours with a dog. They offered Artie Lange half a million to do the show and he turned them down because he's not an asshole.
seriously... if only half of his patients go back to drugs than he is well above average.
16 people are addicts and didnt know it untill he talked..
It's misleading to have the title of this be 'Drugs Worse Than Cancer?', when in reality he said the prognosis is worse, not that drugs or addiction is somehow qualitatively worse than cancer. Obviously that is not what the question is.
It's alright to disagree with the idea of addiction being a disease, but don't put down Dr. Drew. There is no reason to attack someone who is only out to help people.
@carlyjenna1618 THANK YOU Sir or Miss i was a addicted and im so glad you are sticking up for us. Alot of people use it as a excuse oh well i cant help it its a disease, but for the most part its true and i can tell you this from living threw it. you have a good soul and are caring im glad you under stand and have empathy. I wish more in this world would relize this becuase its still so backward in this country. I mean do we send people that have a diabetic low to jail for doing something wrong.
It is not unusual for addicts to want to be excused from looking at the compounded consequences of years of choosing addiction. And there are plenty of professionals ready to make their name and fortune by excusing them with the pseudo disease label. It is behaviourism, we are fallible, it is mostly caused by forgivable cognitive ignorance. Leave the celebs alone in their addiction, let them be ordinary in their addiction, it is cameras that spread the rot, not celebs.
dr drew is the definition of party pooper
Would you rather have Pancreatic Cancer or a drug problem? One you can make go away whenever you want, the other is probably just going to kill you and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
that was supposed to go under my previous comment
well in my opinion, i think that it would be the same thing with drugs being legal or illegal. i think that by informing everyone about what could happen if they start consuming drugs, and how hard it is to treat an adiction etc.etc. will lower the consumers rate and drug dealers wouldnt sell that much... a few could be saved..... lol im From Mexico....
Thats my opinion =D
Sorry for my English
@carlyjenna1618 I just want to interject that the same people who don't agree that addiction should be qualified as a disease, also believe that it SHOULDN'T be recognized as a disease by definition. I just think it's makes the word a lot less useful. It's a broader term. Cancer patients didn't have a choice in their "disease" in most cases. I believe in PHYSICAL CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY,A PERSON creates that when starting to abuse something for mental coping reasons, not because a DISEASE compels.
Dr Drew needs to make a marionette out of Jeff Conaway and reenact scenes from Grease.
I would work on putting together some intelligent points, other than "its a choice" yes thats true..but the choices are made because of imbalances and a dependency brought on by their sickness..you obviously never known anyone with an addiction..even though they know they are killing themselves..they cant stop without TREATMENT.that personal inability to stop something inside from killing you..can also be another characteristic of it being a disease.
I wish I could be like him
yea they will have one dont you hear loveline he siad that they are done shooting it
@vereniceruiz I agree, but they're just there to show people what rehab really is. They're no crazier then a lot of my friends who have been addicts. No one would watch if you had Tony from the Bronx on the show, and he's done his time. It's not like Dr Drew just started doing rehab with celebrities. He's talked about how most of his practice is with average people.
are drugs worse than cancer? um, no..... they're not. u can't just choose to get rid of cancer. u can choose to not take drugs
Addiction is not a disease, and the treating it as a disease has argubly done more damage then help. I am tired of treating these people who want to party and have no responsibility and then say"I have a disease" I am tired of treating them with kid gloves lke babys. I want to stay out all night and blow coke and drink and party too the difference is i take responsibilty for my life and I say NO
That's where you know him from, of all places?
Ibangedyourmum: do you have any basic knowledge of medicine or are you just looking for similar things?
How was shellshock/battle fatigue/PTSD the fault of the person suffering from it? My great grandfather came out of the first world war with an inability to speak for 30 years. Do you really think he did that deliberately? It changed the name from shell shock to PTSD as it can be caused by any trauma (Shell Shock was also called Nervous Shock or Brain Fever when it was not applied in war)
Oh my goodness I KNOW I am
@bigrigbob2010
Ya - I'm treating Lyme Disease right now - and the mental aspect to it is just as demanding as the physical deterioration. anyhow - nice talkin with ya
My favourite Drew quote: "Marijuana withdrawal can mimic heroin withdrawal"
and that's why I hate doctors.
Thats hilarious.
and you didnt respond to my other point.are people who get cancer from smoking not allowed to call their cancer a disease then? or how about someone who drinks their whole life and gets liver sclerosis.those arnt diseases either then huh..you say its a choice.what about someone who has major back surgery a few times and, not by their choice, but their doctor puts them on serious pain killers to treat them and they cant help but become addicted, because that happens all the time
If Dr. Drew wants to show what a rehab is all about, why did he cut all the AA/NA/12step references in the show? Why doesn't he come out and say what 12step treatment is all about: faith healing?
I mean don't get me wrong i'm not trying to undermine their struggles. I know because i've struggled with some of this shit also. I'm just saying I wouldn't call it a disease because it gives the wrong implication of I can't stop this. I mean yes it's hard but you can.
@CrazyHarrow well if we really had that much knowledge than why do we have so many drug users?
Its called aging. It will happen to all of us(and at 41 I am very aware of the forces of aging..LOL)!
@carlyjenna1618 and i'm not just saying that as someone who knows nothing about being addicted. Trust me.
I don't mean to offend you. People with diseases, and chemical dependency DO need help. Medical help and treatment for the underlying mental issues that plague them. I just think they should be separated by a slight degree. The symptoms can be very similar at times. I understand. I've just always been bothered by that wording. Wishing the best!
No I did not say that. I would say that the compulsion to gamble, have sex with random people, and eat is a disease.
Okay this is what I don't fucking get...these people in drug rehab go through step by step courses to better themselves because of their drug use or drug addiction. Don't get me wrong I'm all for that to get people better...but my friend down the road who did the same exact shit got 5 years in fucking prison but the people on the show just go to rehab? That's fucking ridiculous...get my friend out of jail and put him in rehab or get these people out of rehab and put them in jail. Thats not fair.
why wouldn't portugal allow me to sell drugs ? that would mean it'll be illegal . i wouldn't mind paying taxes on them either
the original topic is about the many users, not dealers, imagine how many more users we'll have. users still need money to get high, they'll still do crimes to get high. how can one monitor a drug user ? legal or not ! it's a no win situation Markey
Or maybe hes trying to bring the real life struggles of addiction into the mainstream. So people can see what this disease is all about. Whats wrong with that? It must suck being the type of person that immediately assumes that people are always out to exploit or do negative things.I think hes using the fame he already has to shine a light on something he has dedicated his entire life to..something he dedicated way before he was a "celebrity"
@carlyjenna1618 drug addiction is "affected" by self-will. U have to first WANT to break addiction & find the strength to go thru with detox and withstand withdrawal. I do believe drug addiction can be sort of looked at as a disease, and thats because it becomes physical, but Most ppl (most anyway) are not born addicted to drugs or even forced to do drugs in the first place. Sum r depressed, wanna "feel" good, escape reality etc, sum are followers or think its cool. either way 1st times a choice
i dont think so at all, if he wouldnt he would not have done these shows
calling it a disease does nothing to strip personal responsibility. You need to do some research on how addiction is treated. It's all about personal responsibility. Every credible Doctor working in the field disagrees with everything you just said.
Yeah and Britneys psycho dad made her go to psych ward. And we all know now what kinda person he is. I don't think britney was nearly as bad as what was said. Her dad just wanted to keep her money, and he still does to this day.
if addiction isnt a disease and is just bad choice making then explain to me how lab rats, primates, and insects all have been addicted to things. they have all been studied to have addiction when exposed to certain drugs. well i guess the bees just made bad choices and were weak. or, if you want to get scientific, all animals have a reward section of the brain. its what makes men feel good after sex, its what makes you like something new. it is also what gets rewired after you become an addict.
...i wonder what deep dark secret Dr. Drew is hiding about himself...
Dr Drew...........so handsome, compassioate caring, he is the whole package I'd love to sit and have a nice long coversation with him
shit i forgot he was on loveline!
every time i look at the comments its people arguing about the dumbest shit.. wtf
@carlyjenna1618 plus. i think more people are dieing of drugs (any type, legal or not, slowly or overdosing) than are dieing of cancer.
These "D" cebrities are paid a lot to be on this show! How many addicts get paid for going to rehab... ridiculous
@blortner At this point that is like saying the sky is blue. No offense to you, in fact it's a good thing that this issue is becoming so obvious to so many people. It's time to wake up the few remaining sleepers and get this revolution started already.
Im watching this show.
and im cheering my idole janice dickinson on!
The other patients are so mean and pick on her then they wonder why shes so fast to counter attack now
@ckolic Read it again. Of course it is. I didn't say it wasn't. It's far worse than any other drug.
@eminem865 I agree its a good show, but duinay2 is right he does ask some dumb questions sometimes. Like when that Rachel chick was telling him she doesnt always buy Janice's crap and that she is sometimes just seeking attention. he's all... "What do u mean" she says it again like in dummy terms... he's all, but What exactly do you mean?? I'm like wtf, Its like having a convo with Keanu Reeves sometimes, U should see him on The 16 and preganant reunion shows, lmao.
@vereniceruiz
It's difficult finding out how to feel about these "celebs" that are on this show. The way I see it, these people are insanely selfish, don't deserve what they have, and frankly probably not the type of people I would feel comfortable around my kids. But, they are only human. They are where they are not entirely because of themselves, but because of everything else around them. Our culture and our society and our environment allows for it. They need help, so why bash em?
Not really... if you knew his background... nope
Wow. It amazes me how hateful & ignorant some of these comments are (pls tell me all the rude comments r mostly written by immature teenagers, who just don't know any better, or have any common human decency). Dr. Drew is seriously trying to help these courageous patients. & yes, some of the things they do on camera r dumb, but believe me (& i don;t care who u r, same for anyone) if u were going thru wds off major narcotics w/cameras in ur face--you'd do stupid stuff, too. TY, Dr Drew.
You are one dumb person. I have actually been through multiple rehabs. An actor or celebrity, even if they say they can, cannot in any way focus the way they need on their recovery while having to think about how they appear on tv at the same time. Don't sit here and tell me the celebs are capable of just being completely authentic and real in front of the camera. Bull! The type of personality required to be a celeb like most of the ones on the show means they are always acting, a part of them is always on "show". So with that being the truth it's completely irresponsible and down right evil for producers to pay those actors to appear on a tv show while attending drug treatment for a deadly disease. You are one stupid person