Disney's Creativity Problem
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2023
- Disney is sorely creatively bankrupt, because after talking about sequels, live action and not what, they clearly don't know anything remotely new and fresh anymore
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In their whole hundred year history, Disney is slowly, but surely going through their biggest downfall and only care about cashing in on dumb remakes and sequels. Walt Disney must be rolling in his grave.
Well to be honest with you Disney's not the only one doing remakes and sequels I don't know you heard the news with DreamWorks is also making a live-action remake of how to train your dragon and they're making another Shrek movie
@@animezilla4486 the think with DreamWorks is that their sequels are great.
@@RondallaScores yeah, because they actually put effort into them rather than rely on nostalgia and/or woke agenda
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You are so correct. Disney went to the well and it turned out great for decades, but sooner or later, the inevitable 'backlash' had to come, and they are now in the midst of that. Their live action remakes of their animated hits have been pretty mediocre, but their recent BIG announcement about putting out three more "Star Wars" makes me want to puke! Three more "Star Wars" movies? Including one in which they are bringing back the omnipotent (and overrated) Rey character? How much "Star Wars" does Disney think the public is interested in? I am a 65 year old white male, and I grew up with Disney, but I am no longer interested in the overproduced crap that they are trying to sell. They have my permission to add all of the LGBTQ friendly characters they want to add, and they can do all of the 'race switching' they want to do; but they can leave me---and my money---out of the equation!
Anyone who say "I don't want something to limit my creativity." They're lying becuase true creativity florushs in spite if limitation. Unlimited and or unstructed creativity become a directionless blob of nonsense that no one can enjoy.
Limitations force you to be creative
Star Wars is the biggest example of how “creative freedom” ruins stuff. They should have continued the EU.
@@ChicagoMel23 Nnno it isn’t. Everything tying itself to previous source material (the sequels and shitty TV shows) has been bad. Whereas Visions uses Star Wars as more of a flavor, and it’s the best thing that’s come out of the franchise in years.
That is why I eventually came to like the unique 2D-animated styles of the Tangled and Big Hero 6 series which I avoided at first, since they look good for the style of a Little Golden Book or superhero comic art respectively. They had creative art styles either in spite of or because of the limitations of a television budget. If I worked for Eric Goldberg in whatever field he is doing now to bring back 2D animation for Disney films so they do not look like a second Pixar, I would encourage Walt Disney Animation Studios to try higher budget versions of those unique art styles so they can be as impressive as Into the Spider-Verse without copying that particular look.
yes exactly. i’m an illustrator and before i went to art school i always thought i was uncreative or had bad ideas, but actually i just hadn’t learned how to limit and guide my ideas yet. now i can come up with creative ideas super quickly because i understand how to navigate a story. it’s clear that the marketers or whoever is in charge at disney refuses to let any sort of creativity slip through the cracks, but i really hope that someone there realizes soon that you can still be creative and funny with many limitations, even in cheap remakes or sequels. they don’t all have to be soulless
Moral of the story: Just because you had a lot of success with creativity in the past where you actually had to try with smart writing to make it that good, does not mean you no longer have to try in the current year. Remaking everything for the bad kind of modern audiences with none of the thought, creativity or effort that made us like Mulan or Peter Pan to begin is not a guaranteed success. At worst, it is only setting yourself up for failure. At best, you are creating an anti-nostalgic property that can lose as much money as Hua Mulan already has or having nothing that we liked about Fa Mulan. Even putting its best foot forward to being more culturally accurate did not help it fare any better in China. Nobody likes negative nostalgia, unless they are a bad person making Star Trek: Discovery or The Rings of Power or Velma. That is when they can disrespect their dead creators while insulting everybody else who can see the awful, uncreative, shallow and soulless mean-spirited writing through a thinly-veiled shield of diversity to falsely accuse them of racism!
Just because Disney was a creative powerhouse for half a century is no good excuse to give up and stop being that in this decade, or in the previous decade! If you want Disney to stop with these live-action remakes that sanitize old stories into the oblivion of negative nostalgia, become too bland for the same audiences to enjoy under the pretense of being as inoffensive as possible, and are doomed to be disposed of in a year and not be as popular as the classic animated properties they are remaking, then ignore them and do not give them the money for it. The money has always been there for original ideas that were mildly risky, and it still is now! Sure, not every film has to be an outstanding classic, but every film has to try to keep up the good work that made Disney the rich and successful company it is today! Rehashing every single classic property that worked before when they once were original is not the guaranteed cash-grab that Bob Iger or Bob Chapek thinks it is, and that is why Nelson Peltz has to course-correct Bob Iger. Sure, maybe Disney can afford to make bad films now and take a break from creative, whimsical animated classics and original animated properties like Wreck-it Ralph or Encanto for half a decade, but now they lost their way and play it way too safe. Eventually, it will become proof that Disney is not invincible or too big to fail and has to figure out how to take some new risks eventually. This already started at the beginning of the 2020s with all of the bad publicity that Yifei Liu and her live-action remake of Mulan have gotten, so the end of this trend will be nearer in 2030. If they want to make money with the Marvel and Star Wars franchises because they had a lot of good content that sold well in the past, it is their responsibility to carry on that legacy and be respectful of the same audience who wants more of that...instead of turning everybody away from it by insulting us with the curse of negative nostalgia and writing bizarro bland content of Marvel, Star Wars or their live-action remakes of classic animated films because they are writing for a more narrow-minded audience that either does not exist, or is not their audience because they are not part of the same wide appeal that animated Disney classics once had.
I love your term "negative nostalgia." I still think the term "anti-nostalgia" is better, but your term may well be more accurate.
What baffles me is this: if Disney is embarrassed by the "problematic" content of its older films, then why not just take them out of circulation, as with SONG OF THE SOUTH? Instead, they apparently believe they can "redeem" these films by remaking them, and all that does is make the originals look even more socially antiquated. It's like a polar bear trying to hide in a snowbank: you're just going to notice the black nose all the more.
Adamphibia Kalboonchuy. If you enjoy giving creative positive and negative feedback towards Disney movies I highly recommend Xiran Jay Zhao's channel. She posts good content. You may agree or disagree with her but she knows her way around cultures and storytelling. She she's recently published a book!
@@hameley12 I love her channel and I really appreciate what Xiaran Jay Zhao has to say for Hua Mulan-2020 (her debut video), Fa Mulan-1998, Turning Red, and non-Disney animated film properties relating to China like Abominable and Over the Moon.
Disney: We're all about creativity and imagination to give you breath taking stories and adventures that you'll remember many years to come.
Also Disney: Spending hundreds of millions on remaking all their movies, even the stuff that just barely came out several years ago. once their entire library has been remade... it's time to remake them again! any new stuff is sabotaged, like Turning Red and Strange World, even though those movies weren't very good anyway.
And also disney: Oh and about you, "the owl house", you're amazing and better than most of our movies but... you have 2 LGBTQ+ characters, so... *clap *clap*, get the fuck out of here, you're canceled
Walt Disney himself must be clicking his tongue in disappointment at what his studio has become nowadays 🙂
The problem with Disney's endless remakes is that, eventually, they'll run out of things to remake. And at that point, they'll either be forced to make something new, or double down.
Idk maybe they'll make a remake of a remake lmao
@@user-bp9jm1vf9e It's Disney. You never know.
Disney is basically turning senile in the modern day. Much like an elderly person refusing to move on in favour of the "good ol' days", Disney relies too much on the nostalgia for the past while also not putting more effort (well, attempted) into their original projects. This results in older fans not liking unnecessary changes and newer fans alienated from the IP they want to promote.
It's nothing more than a zombie. A rotting corpse that cannot die as executives forcefully reanimate it.
Kinda like beating a dead horse situation, if you ask me.
DISNEY: Ok uh, Pixar, ideas. WE NEED IDEAS.
PIXAR: Disney I don't know what we can do! I already made a Lightyear movie, and it did.. ok, and you already made a movie! remember?
DISNEY: Strange World was my one attempt in making an original movie after the release of ALOT of sequels and remakes. and it got so much hate! I thought the dog would make it better.
PIXAR: Disney, Dreamworks had a dog in their movie and it was BETTER. Puss in Boots The Last Wish was so successful! your representation of side-characters is getting Moldy.
DISNEY: What happened to you too? what happened to movies like Finding Nemo?!
PIXAR: I am playing it SAFE.
DISNEY: Well.. im releasing the new Little Mermaid remake this year, HOPEFULLY it doesn't get much hate.
PIXAR: uh, Disney.
DISNEY: ..What
PIXAR: Dreamworks is releasing a movie at the same time as your remake, Ruby Gillman The Teenage Kraken. and it shows mermaids as bloodthirsty and destructive creatures.
DISNEY: ...
PIXAR: And it has a villain, that looks just like Ariel-
DISNEY: OH FOR LORDS SAKE-
PIXAR: you really gotta up your game Disney.
DISNEY: Well, at least illuminations isn't apart of this.
PIXAR: well actually, Illuminations worked with Nintendo to create a Mario Movie. and some people are liking it.
ILLUMINATIONS: Disney is falling apart.
DREAMWORKS: That's karma for how they have treated The Owl House.
I just heard of Ruby Gillman, but not the fact that it had killer mermaids. Thanks for the info, and sign me up!
When you become too large, you become complacent. You feel as if you can do anything, because nothing can really hurt you. Sure, you may have a failure here and there, but with how many properties they have that continue to generate revenue, it doesn't really matter much. And that's a horrible way to think. Just because they have all this money doesn't mean they should just roll their eyes at failures. Take what fans didn't like and improve on it.
One of the skills that artists will naturally learn is the ability is to know when to stop, to avoid overworking something that doesn't need it.
Disney does not know when to stop.
I seriously can't believe there's going to be Frozen 3, Toy Story 5, Zootopia and Inside Out 2, an Aladdin sequel, a Lion King prequel, more remakes of original movies and Moana?? There's probably more remakes and sequels than original films.
This Disney isn’t Walt’s Disney.
thats why they removed walt disney from the intro lol
@@Log-On-Line makes sense but if they don’t over haul their current model in the next decade then they will cease to exist. Aside from their former glory. Which in it of itself is unfortunate especially when you deep dive into their animated version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs where they had to ask the bankers for more time and money to a point where the banker had to see for himself. Before they had went any further. Walt himself would’ve been vilified if he were still alive today. Quite Ashamed Really. Oh Well.
@@theanimationcritictaylorri1264 if walt was still alive he would have been forced out of his company like 5 years ago when they started completely ruining disney
he wasnt a good dude but his movies were amazing and they are just ruining his movie legacy
@@theanimationcritictaylorri1264 I hate them so much.
DICKSNEY rather. Oh, will someone PLEASE think of Uncle Walt?!
Real shame that the company went in the direction it did considering how it started. Thanks for the video!
dreamworks: *makes an actual good sequel and an original movie with an original story*
disney: haha i love ruining and remaking everything with live action live action go brrr
Disney Announced Toy Story 5, Zootopia 2, and Frozen 3
I'm going to go over each movie and why I think it’s going to be bad.
Let's not kid ourselves. Is anyone expecting anything good?
Recent Disney and Pixar movies were rather underwhelming. Turning Red, Strange World and Lightyear lost money. The only movie made by these companies which most people don't hate or aren't completely indifferent to is Encanto. And there are already rumors of a sequel or a series, maybe both.
Disney is now reusing the same strategy it used years ago. Release a bunch of sequels to their beloved movies to make money. Tired of live-action remakes? How about a continuation?
Incredibles 2 (2018)
Ralph Breaks the Internet (2018)
Toy Story 4 (2019)
Frozen 2 (2019)
You know what they have in common?
They were super rushed because we have to pump multiple movies every year including both Pixar and Disney, Marvel, live-action remakes, and whatever else this monopoly swallowed. Let's not forget Disney+!
They were in production hell. It's so obvious there was no plan for a continuation of so many of these projects. And even when there were because everything was so rushed nothing got properly developed and people just slapped everything together.
They made a huge amount of money!
In my personal opinion, original movies like Strange World, Raya and The Last Dragon, or The Good Dinosaur are less bad on the principle of not destroying already great characters. But they don't have the franchise recognition and the mentality of ''Sure the new movies are bad but this is the sequel to the classic. It must at least be somewhat good like its predecessor!''
Frozen 3
This is probably the most obvious of all as Frozen is Disney's most lucrative, overexposed, and overrated movie ever. The first Frozen isn't the best. It's not the worst thing ever but everybody agrees how overblown it was.
The message about not isolating yourself but also not trusting blindly, the prince being the bad guy, and the familiar love being the answer instead of romantic love is noble and somewhat novel at the time, at least for Disney but they could've been executed better.
Practically everyone and their mother has talked about how Hans is the worst twist villain and how his plan doesn't make any sense. And to those who want to see Hans back don't get your hopes up. Disney is way too proud of their subversive evil prince charming to walk back on it and redeem him. Besides, I have no idea what contrived reason would they have to come up with to bring him back.
Frozen 2 tries to explain Elsa's power but makes everything more confusing. Characters are sidelined or assassinated. And it contradicts the message of the previous movie.
I expect more of the same. More pretty clothes for Elsa and Anna so you buy new dolls for your kids. Pretty visuals and songs. Making fun of ''Let it go'' and Hans.
Someone on here called Frozen the Minions of Disney and I couldn't agree more.
Toy Story 5
I'm not breaking new ground by saying Toy Story should have ended with Toy Story 3. There already is a great video critiquing everything wrong with Toy Story 4 and I doubt that the 5th installment will fix the mistakes of its predecessor. Unless it will be worse and makes it look better by comparison. I expect more new toys with celebrity voice actors which only exist to sell more merchandise. And you thought Dreamworks was bad! At least most of their characters have a point to exist.
Watch this guy’s video. It’s great. ruclips.net/video/U__oaZ9FiXM/видео.html
Zootopia 2
This is the one I'm most concerned about. This one has the most potential. I would love to see more of the wonderful city of Zootopia. But on the other hand, I can already see how it's going to be one of if not the worst and most controversial movies Disney will ever make.
And I can't believe I'm saying this but it isn't exactly Disney's fault. I already saw people calling Zootopia cop propaganda and criticizing how it's handled racism. (I disagree but it's not the time for this conversation.)
No matter on which political spectrum you are there are a lot of controversies surrounding the cops. Police brutality, the justice system not doing its job and releasing criminals who already committed multiple felonies enabling them to terrorize innocent people, police acting like a militia for the elites, and stopping people from protesting in Hong Kong, Brazil, France, Denmark, and other countries.
Those are very complicated and serious issues. It's not like they can't talk about it in a kid's movie but it has to be done in such a way so the kids understand. Also, it has to make sense within the context of the story, the setting, and the characters. I can't imagine Judy beating somebody up because ''all cops are evil'' or Zootopia suddenly having a pandemic and politicians using it to take away the citizens' rights.
Also, with how incompetently Disney handled the very easy message of trust in Raya and the Last Dragon, or how in Incredibles 2 people would spit out random messages that never get any development and have nothing to do with the story, and how out of touch they are about the internet in Ralph Breaks the Internet, I don't trust Disney with telling me how to tie my shoes.
Remember how Zootopia has a very interesting and logical mystery story? I think it's already established how modern Disney can't write, so expect there not to be any mystery whatsoever, with characters acting stupid and mean for the sake of the plot.
I half expect them to split the characters at the end of the movie for a stupid reason. They've done it in Ralph Breaks the Internet, Frozen 2, and Toy Story 4.
The other part of me thinks they're not going to do it because the Nick and Judy shippers will go insane if that happens. But don't expect them to get together. Disney is saving it for Zootopia 3 or the Zootopia series. Besides they don't have the guts to make it canon.
True though I do see Zootopia being good as that, obviously, isn't rushed. Everything else will be mid at best
Zootopia will become their last test with centrist and conservatist viewers on how to handle the story. If its just a woke Antifa propaganda then its over for Disney forever and means Bob Iger was completely brainwashed by woke activists or blackmailed by Blackrock
And also you are gay
Don’t assume…reserve judgement til they come out. You can’t see the future so they could be good
Of those three properties getting sequels next year, Zootopia has had the least amount of supplementary content in the past, and it has the newest one of the first films, so I do at least agree with you that Zootopia 2 might actually be a great sequel - as long as they do not turn around 180 degrees and go anti-cop propaganda like Paradise PD, which has a totally different style of comedy, storytelling and character writing. Zootopia's writers were already smart enough to realize when their original shock collar storyline would not be palatable for kids, and they were also good at depicting internal discrimination and corruption of the Zootopia police department in a good, simple way for the kids to understand. If the same writers keep up the good work for Zootopia 2, I will not be disappointed.
Then again, Ralph Breaks the Internet has most of the same writers and the same director of the original Wreck-it Ralph and I keep coming across a wide variety of different RUclips reviews that make it hard for me to know how true or untrue Phil Johnston, Rich Moore and Jim Reardon were to characters in the original Wreck-it Ralph when they wrote the sequel. It is always sad when a film's sequel has different writers or directors who want to make it but do not understand earlier installments, or just do not want to make it period. It is even worse when the same writers and directors forget how to write new installments for the same property they originally created! You can criticize Ralph Breaks the Internet all you want, as long as you never nitpick it for not having any po-
Ngl, Disney make me watched anime more than I ever have, even a genre that I haven't even jump into 🤣🤣
The last time I'm excited is for encanto. After encanto, everything is just mehh
Even Turning Red? I thought that was not a bad movie. I really hope Elementals will be any better this year.
@@adampkalb me too I hope that movie does well as far as I can tell the comments when the trailer came out we're mostly okay nobody was really angry at the trailer the movies off to a good start
@@adampkalb turning red is not for me, it's cute and some songs are slaps but it didn't tug me in the heart that much. As for elementals, I look forward to see it but I have low expectations on Disney now
It's not Disney, but I've heard people say that _Puss In Boots: The Last Wish_ was great. I'm planning to watch it soon. I also recently watched _Del Toro's Pinocchio,_ and it was beautiful. I think it captures the creativity that Disney used to have. You might want to try these two movies.
@@anonview That is why I wish Disney would become that creative again. Not that it has to be a creative powerhouse _all the time,_ but that does not give the current writers or directors an excuse or a free pass to do nothing with the projects on which they are currently working! Trying to do nothing with something is how they already lost so much money in 2022 and 2023. I want Disney to be Walt Disney again. Not Kathleen Kennedy or Victoria Alonso's "the force is female" rubbish that threatens to erase the men who came before Rey and Captain Marvel and Hua Mulan (the live-action counterpart, totally not the animated Fa Mulan character). April 21, 2023, 2:59am
Wait, so if it weren’t for Universal, Oswald would be Disney’s mascot?!
Probably
7:53 I still say that the Lilo & Stitch sequels were a bit of an exception as those exactly added more world-building with the introduction of the 625 experiments created before Stitch, showing that the franchise still had more to tell after the first film.
Same with Lion King 2, Little Mermaid 2, Jungle Book 2 and Cinderella 3. Those movies added a lot to the characters.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Ya, but with the minor exceptions of Kiara and Kovu from The Lion King II (who would return for The Lion Guard), to my knowledge, the new characters from those sequels never left that much of an impact to their franchise’s legacy. Like I don’t see Disney Park mascots or merchandise of them. The other experiments and Hamsterviel from the Lilo & Stitch franchise on the other hand, especially with Angel, have gotten Disney Park mascots and merchandise over the years (like recently for examples both Reuben and Leroy have gotten Hot Topic magnets, a Reuben Funko Pop! and a Leroy plushie with sound at KidINN). Hamsterviel gets his merchandise presence in Japan with for example a Tsum Tsum on him.
@@superstitch5618 I mean, they are at least acknowledged. For example, Melody used to be a meetable character at Disney parks until 2013. But if you ask a meetable Ariel at a Disney park where Melody is nowadays, they will usually make something up based on the character's accurate history. And pretty much every Jungle Book media names the girl Shanti, even though that name wasn't revealed until Jungle Book 2.
Even if they didn't, those movies I mentioned did genuinely expand upon their predecessors.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Oh okay. I did not notice that. But fun fact, I think the main Disney Animation studio kinda likes these experiments enough to the point where Splodyhead (Experiment 619) actually got a cameo in Big Hero 6 as one of Fred’s pillows.
And the Lion King 1 1/2 where it showed more of Timon’s backstory.
They don't have to try anymore. They've grown too large of a company that if one TV show or movie bombs - don't worry, they've got at least 10 more remakes and sequels and familiar IPs to throw at their audience. The downside to this, however, is that eventually, the audience will get tired. And they're gonna run out of IPs to remake. By the time that happens, companies like DreamWorks, Illumination, Sony Animation, Cartoon Saloon, etc. would already be 10 steps ahead of them.
I mean, is that really a downside? Maybe they‘d finally learn their lesson when all of that happens
Disney's so obsessed with identity politics, they're treating their own classics like Amazon treated Tolkien. "Screw the original creator! WE'RE telling the stories now!" Remaking Snow White is the biggest middle finger to Walt Disney yet.
I hate them to death so much, what the hell is wrong with them and their obsession with politics that have turned customers away?
And the original story and lore by freakin race-swapping.
I blame Bob cheapskate for this
@@someadorablebuffcat Yeah, this is not ok. How can they be racist against white people that did no wrong?
You could argue that Disney has never been very original. Many of their early successes rely on old folklore and fearie tales (which never had sequels written for them). When those started to run out, they then started relying on their mergers to bring in money.
The thing is they COULD have kept going with more fairytale stories, they could have brought in more folklore from Scotland, the Hawaiian islands, American indigenous people, Scandinavian people, etc. Tbh i wish they did make fairytale stories that came from alot of folklore we don't know alot about. They randomly started to move a bit away from the fairytale theme and to me i think it's because they wanted to do shit like frozen where they "made fun" of old fairytale tropes and essentially move away from old Disney stories.
I think it's sad that their live-action films don't get more love. DARBY O'GILL AND THE LITTLE PEOPLE, THE SHAGGY DOG, SWISS FAMILY ROBINSON, THE ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR, THE LOVE BUG, and so many of the others are still fascinating films. I'd even include FLIGHT OF THE NAVIGATOR, which was a very groundbreaking kids' film in its time. But nobody seems to remember any of the live-action stuff except for MARY POPPINS and HOCUS POCUS (which I've always hated and still do).
I think it was creative because it got kids excited about old stories. They let the old fairytales be played out before your very eyes! They didn’t shy away from some of the darker elements of the tales and even put their own artistic twists to them. They don’t want to take risks anymore, and think everything about them (including their audience) needs to be covered in bubble wrap. Honestly, I can understand why Disney is playing it safe these days. With cancel culture on the rise, people get upset over the stupidest things. They don’t want to get sent to the sociological guillotine; therefore no longer have the creative backbone they used to have.
@@alicecheshire4806 Disney was darker during it’s renaissance period, but to say they didn’t “shy away” from those elements is a bit inaccurate. Alot of old disney movies are basically just sugarcoated retellings of the original tales, while taking a few bold and risky moves now and then. The original stories were much darker, and very rarely had happy endings to them.
@@starstorm1267 When I say “didn’t shy away”, I meant they still kept some dark tones. Snow White is the first that comes to my mind. The colors and music of certain parts of the movie pertaining to the Evil Queen were very dark: her magic mirror scene, commanding the huntsman to bring her Snow White’s heart, her transformation, and her death.
They showed the dark tones that fairytales have, but not in a way that would frighten children. Obviously in Cinderella, Disney couldn’t have the Evil Stepsisters mutilate their feet like the original tale does.
I will agree with you that as Disney progressed, they did get a little more daring. The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Tarzan having some very dark scenes. They probably felt comfortable doing so because of they’re success so far, and decided to push the boundaries a bit in a subtle way.
Couldn't agree more. I wish Disney would make new, original and good stories like the master storytellers they were known as. These remakes are so pointlessly unnescessary. Sequels are fine as long they improve on the original. Enough with the remakes tho.
I would honestly take Disneys direct to video sequels over the live action remakes
As an ARTISTIC enterprise, Disney is done, and has been for a long time now. It's entirely possible to make a film that's also a work of art... especially an animated one... but not at Disney. It boggles my mind that Frozen was so well-received, because story-wise it was honestly the worst animated film I'd ever seen.
Frozen's release year correlates with a theory I have too. Something changed in the U.S. like a switch was flipped at the end of 2012.
Now that I'm thinking about it I wonder if Frozen was a MK Ultra style triggering device for an entire generation to lose their marbles and push, well, whats being pushed now.
@@grinningtiki220 thats very interesting. have you any proof or sources you can direct to?
@@lostheir7988 like I said, just a theory.
I did notice that about 2013 things started to get aggressive online.
At the time I called it "rage culture" friends on Facebook started pushing headlines and being upset over those headlines and not reading the actual articles that ended up proving the opposite of the headline. Discourse got worse and worse as basic middle-of-the-road opinions were ostracized and shouted down. The culmination all of this in 2016 led to people that I'd worked with for almost a decade to become insufferable to work with. I'd always kept my opinions to myself or try to anyways. In summer of 2013 I had made a joke that Rush Limbaugh was funnier than Jon Stewart to some work colleagues. Multiple people then harassed me for 8 Hours on set.
After that incident I really tried to keep my mouth shut and watch what I said. Then it got to being remaining silent and not agreeing with people quick enough LED them to start harassing me. The hands up don't shoot hoax and the rise of BLM as an example. I was working and didn't know all the facts and said that I would withhold judgment until more facts had come out and I had, had a chance to study the subject closer. This ended up ostracizing me from some "friends."
2015-2016 the run up to the election I still had not been paying attention to current events. Several colleagues in the industry that I knew personally went to the chemical castration and wearing wigs and makeup route. Having a neutral position on the orange man got me let go from a position. To be fair although it wasn't the main reason it was probably the deciding factor.
Post election I witnessed people that I had worked with for years breakdown and literally yell monologues about how much they hated the orange man on set or Gatherings of the crew.
I then started to get informed from sources of people that I disagreed with online to try and get informed.
And probably the worst sin according to those that are in control was I started watching the weekly press briefings of the orange man administration in their entirety and unedited.
So I began to ask myself " if the report on something that's easily found online is false, misleading or outright lies. What else are they lying about?"
Once you start digging into official documents it's all there. You don't need a third-party pungent to translate it for you. All you have to do is go to a.gov website and read their own words. You asked for proof, well go to a.gov website spend a half-hour and look around it's all there.
Apologies for the long-winded but I felt like some context was needed, firstly to show that I'm not some nutcase with an agenda. And second to show how long it took for me to get out of my comfort zone and realize what's going on and even then I probably don't even know 1/10th.
@@grinningtiki220 So what you are saying is that many people easily get angry nowadays? and that the orange man is not what many people think he is?
I mean this could be what I can describe as a mass psychosis, but im not sure.
When you start talking about official documents, what do you mean exactly? What can we get from a .gov website? perhaps the actual facts about this or that?
I apologize if i look like I ask too many questions, I simply am curious over what you think. You may be on to something here.
I don't mind representation in movies/series, what I do mind is when it takes priority over being a good movie/series and is essentially used as a crutch to criticize people who don't like the movie/series An example of representation done right is The Owl House, it manages to tell an engaging story while also having representation, despite Disney shooting it in the foot by cutting season 3 short, it still managed to stick the landing and I highly recommend it.
They need to hire the team, who created, the Dark Crystal-Age of Resistance.
That sounds good to me! They could use a new job in animation after Netflix canceled their great series too early. The same goes for the animators of Inside Job.
At least Pixar is continuing to produce original properties, technological advancements, and they're allowing their staff to tell personal stories like Onward. Pixar deserves credit for that
I don't know. Pixar hasn't been killing it as much as they once did
You can thank disney for that. They're the ones who have been releasing Pixar's movies directly to disney plus and not treating them like a real movie studio
Pixar has gone downhill since cars 2, they make something cool once in a while but they aren,t as good as the 90s and early 2000s.
They haven't gone down hill. They just made a few biters. And if it weren't for disney pushing their work on disney plus, the latest Pixar films (like Soul and Luca) would be classics today!
10:34 What I don't understand is that..... Disney HAS Lion King on Broadway! It has added scenes that has fleshed out the characters. And people were okay with it not being a 1-for-1 reproduction because that is NOT what you see a show for. There's not a single theatrical show (that has originated from a different medium) that is 100% the same.... if that makes sense. Means Girls, Beetlejuice, Frozen, Mary Poppins, Sister Act..... it is VERY rare to find a theatrical production that is exactly identical to the material it was adapted from.
In my playwrighting class, my prof asked, "Why theatre? Why are you telling this story in this medium? What are the strengths to the medium? Weaknesses to the medium? For adaptations - why was the story told in the original medium?" The Lion King musical WORKS because it did not force a story to be told in the same way that it was told in another medium. It adapted, made changes. It was not afraid to change the story so it COULD be told on stage. The realistic animated movie did not do that. They, quite literally copied and pasted the same movie into a different type of animation. The Lion King touring show was the first professional musical I've seen.... It is LITERALLY SO GORGEOUS. Honestly, I love it so SO much more than the original movie, which might be a bit blasphemous, but I stand by that. It is such a BEAUTIFUL production BECAUSE the show is ADAPTED for stage. It is not a recreation of the 90s movie - because that would be impossible to do for theatre.
I'm not a fan of Beyonce, but... seriously? You got HER and she didn't even sing Shadowland? All the new songs, aside from maybe The Morning Report, fit into the musical so well. (A lot of people hate the song. I don't! I think it delves into Simba and Mufasa's relationship more than the original movie. I digress.) They, quite literally, had decades of new people saying, "Hey, we don't mind making changes to this story because the changes made in this musical REALLY work and make the story so much more!" And did nothing. Seriously, I would rather see Disney TRY to and have a reason to adapt these musicals into a different medium. If you're going to just recreate them in a different form of animation, then what is the point? (Aside from, essentially, printing money.) At least bring something new to the table. As much as I dislike the live action/CGI villian movies.... they are at least a offshoot of a property, but it is at LEAST a different story being told, not the same story being told in a different color of paint.
What’s your favorite idea? Mine is being CREATIVE
How do you get the idea?
@@2l84me8 I just try to think CREATIVELY
Now when you look at tgis orange, tell me please what do you see?
@@niesolonykotlecik It’s just a boring old orange.
Maybe to you, but not to me!
Disney is the embodiment of timelessly running out of time.
The problem is exactly as you say... it's not that sequels are inherently bad... but when they're unplanned, against a rushed timeframe, made by people who only care about fattening their wallets... you get garbage. There's a reason why the Marvel films, through Endgame, were so revolutionary, because with the excerption of Star Wars and Mission Impossible... there really weren't sequels of any kind, from any studio that you could reliably point to and say "yes, I really think the sequel was a good idea"... sequels in film were a running joke for literally a century.
That said, Disney isn't too big to fail... they're failing right now. In fact the only think keeping them afloat right now are their theme parks and cruise lines. Avatar would be the first film to add any major income, but even that doesn't pay the bills. They're floundering right now, and much like the slumps of the past, they're cranking out whatever they can to make a buck.
All of that said... their "original" animated films, weren't really that original. Some certainly were, but most followed the same format of... find a well known fairy-tale or mythological story... then edit it down for kids/families... add some fun songs... and simply pull off the feat that was creating a feature-length animated film, and turn a profit. Most of their unique or original content, really didn't work that well, despite audiences commonly clamoring for "unique" content.
The good news, is they're running out of films to re-make. Also, Avatar is doing great, and while it's not that unique... it's definitely in the spirit of Disney's past successful era... and that's great to see. Lastly, it's great to see Dreamworks seize this opportunity, and I can say with absolute certainty, there's nothing like your competitor beating you, to make a company overhaul their entire operation.
Hoping for the best... but I'm with you... I don't think we'll see anything in the next 10-20 years. I'm sure they'll have their hits along the way\, but they've got a ton of soul-searching to do.
I was just talking to my sister about how Tron Legacy holds up so incredibly well despite being over a decade old. Even though the story leaves something to be desired, the visuals, soundtrack, setting, and just the overall experience of Legacy are what make the movie so unique.
I've never been able to forget it ever since I first watched it thirteen years ago. Unlike practically everything Disney makes nowadays which I forget immediately after it comes out.
I don’t wanna voice my criticism sometimes cuz it makes me feel like I’m like those trolls who say Disney has gotten too ‘woke’. Which I have no problem with Disney pursuing more progressive stories or characters, but have it mean something or make sense. Don’t just throw it in to gain praise for doing the bare minimum without even trying. It feels like changes they’ve made for live action Disney animated remakes have mostly been for the worse. No live action remake is even close to being nearly as good as the original they’re based on.
After hearing that little mermaid is gonna change some lyrics of original songs for modern audiences, I’m confused why there needs any changing. None of lyrics mentioned have any kind of bad meaning. But Alan menken Is doing it and he’s one half of the original song team so I’ll assume he knows what he’s doing
trolls?
Oh Disney is super racist. Their treatment of finn in star wars is easy proof of that. And that they REFUSE to make original stories for other ethnicities and countries even though people are BEGGING for it. It's all just politics and virtue signaling for them now, they don't try to make good stories anymore. Then they claim the FANS are the racist ones when the fans are saying things like "finn should have been the main character".
@@jskywalker58 yes, trolls.
Disney is an agenda driven media monopoly. It seems that you have been successfully indoctrinated by their BS... I feel sorry for you ..I rather be a troll than an obedient consumer.
Of the live-action remakes, I've enjoyed THE JUNGLE BOOK and DUMBO the most. THE JUNGLE BOOK repeated the mistake of the original in getting the Indian wildlife wrong, but the way they rewrote the story made it seem more coherent, and it also provided more of a character arc for Mowgli, who didn't really learn anything in the course of the animated version. DUMBO, meanwhile, while not necessarily an improvement on the 1941 film, was at least fascinating in its unique take, and not simply a rehash of the original. In fact, I'd even say DUMBO could have been an extremely original film and maybe even the birth of a new subgenre (the "showbiz corporate thriller") if only Dumbo himself had not been in it. That's what's most frustrating of all about Disney nowadays: they are indeed coming up with new ideas, but they're ruining them by shoehorning in their old characters.
This is one of the many reasons why I’m contemplating going cold turkey from Disney. Sure I’ll still enjoy their content (minus most of the remakes, btw), or make skits if I become a creator myself, but beyond that, I’m cutting my losses with them.
The problem with Disney is the existens of Disney. They have basically total monopoly of the market so there is about zero chance for any other studio in the US to even try and create animated films and that's just how Disney wants it. There is absolutely zero need for Disney today, they stand in the way of so many interesting and fantastic films being made.
Illumination and DreamWorks are producing great content. There are those overseas like the Spanish film 'Unicorn Wars'.
@@msmaria5039 Illumination are living off of sing and minions, they do very few films of any actual quality that would make them have to compete with Disney. Instead they make movies for children aged 1-4. DreamWorks has always been very affected by their competition with Disney and while they do come out with good films they are also not exactly coming out with a lot of new and unique material instead doing sequel after sequel.
Unicorn Wars is not a movie aimed at children so I don't think it even qualifies to be part of the discussion. And how sad is it that there are only three studios that are able to reach a wider audience and they are all just making sequels and prequels because one of them gives zero shits about making goof movies (Disney) and two of them can't afford to loose market shares to Disney so they avoid taking any risks.
With all these new sequels and remakes they keep announcing left and right recently like Toy Story 5, Live Action Moana, and ANOTHER Star Wars trilogy, it’s crystal clear that Disney doesn’t care about originality anymore.
Watch them announce a live action Encanto remake or a Wall-E 2 next.
Seriously, if they go after Toy Story, Atlantis the Lost Empire, The Iron Giant or Treasure Planet. WE will continue to ignore and cancel them out. The stories were already done, told, beautifully ended. Let them be.
Or Disney Corp can take a hiatus and stop making movies for some time. They have hotels, cruise ships, television media, movie media, a music recording company, mergers and billions of useless, low-quality and wasteful toys from hundreds of brands. They'll survive.
Excellent video, we very much enjoyed it! ❤
Edit: I almost forgot that they do not credit independent self-made artists or special-skilled men/women, or multi bilingual cultures. Look up what they did to Maria Salud Ramirez Caballero. It's so sad and she's so sweet! 💐
I want to punch the hell out of the ones that made Ralph Breaks the Internet. All they've done is show Vanellope's true colors and gave me a reason to hate her and never want to speak to her again
@@Disneyfan82 If Vanellope was real, non-Disney traditionalists would take a long line -- not to her ride -- but to punch her or see her plunge into _____.
It's sad that Owl City made a fun song specifically for the movie. Their music history is great! The movie not so much. Take care Disneyfan82! 🙂
vanellope is the new turbo
At least Treasure Planet and Atlantis actually have revival potential.
Disney don't create. They adapt. They are not used to producing original stories. That's why when running out of fairy-tales they bought Marvel's catalouge.
Adaptations aren't unoriginal when you make your own original twist on the story you're adapting, heck some films have nothing in common with the og story like Jungle Book. Also Disney made some original movies too like The Lion King and Emperors New Groove
@@sonicfanboy3375 No matter how muich you try to twist things, the fact remains: Disney needs something already hyped up to adapt.
And when you only shave the cream, you'll run out of stuff fast.
Disney literaly cannibalised the popculture of the entire human history. They are dying out fast.
And while Disney DID some original story, like Dinosaur (2000) (in a sense that's just trying to steal dinosaurs from the mainstream, so in a sense it is again adaptation), The Lion King is NOT one of them - that's simply an adaptation of Hamlet. And don't even start with The Emperor's New Groove. That, like Moana, is just a ripoff of a lesser known culture's myths, and the title suspiciosly sounds like The Emperor's New Clothes.
Disney lacks any creativity, and thus when they even try, they flop so hard, it's not even funny.
@@AmityvilleFan "They take some elements from different cultures and make their own story with it it's unoriginal"🤓
@@sonicfanboy3375 They TAKE. They do not CREATE. This is the definition of adaptaion.
And they've ran out of things to adopt.
In consequence, the company tried to aquisite stuff, and they either already consumed it (check the MCU), or botched it right from the getgo (see Star Wars).
Disney never created stories, was always just a leach. A parasite.
Pixar have been more original over nearly 30 yrs than Disney have been in nearly 100 yrs
But if you really think about it, the original Disney films DID borrow heavily from familiar stories and nostalgia. Everyone knew Alice in Wonderland, The Three Little Pigs, and Snow White, three of their first-ever creations.
Finally someone with common sense. Thanks for pointing that out.
In other words Disney hasn't really changed over 100 yrs even under Walt's leadership
Walt Disney was a terrible man, but one thing that was super respectable about him was that he valued creativity over money.
I wouldn't really call adaptations of already existing works "creativity"
@@masterknife8423 it's not creativity, it's "authenticity" and respecting the source material.
Something I remember when I did a research project on Disney that stuck with me that should have been obvious to even Bob Iger himself: Walt and his brother wanted to make animation enjoyable for all ages and show you could give enjoyment to both kids and adults alike. Hence why they were so ambitious with Snow White, and why Iger’s generation of films seems to fall so flat.
I feel bad that this is what Walt and Roy’s legacy’s come to, as well as others like Howard Ashman. So much built Disney up only for marketing campaigns to tear it down.
At this point, they really need another wave of renaissance.
The fact that a Toy Story 5 is going to exist just says it all. Smh...
If Walt Disney was still alive today, what he think about his company today? Probably disappointed.
Trying new things is risky and the larger a company is, the more risk adverse the people running it are.
They shouldn’t have thrown out the original Star Wars EU. It was perfectly good and could have easily been continued. Instead they ruined it.
I liked TLK and Bambi 2 for sequels but not the rest really. Toy Story should’ve ended at 3.
I still think the TLK remake doesn’t deserve the hate. It’s not great but it’s not that bad either.
The great thing is that there's Illumination who create movie that people want to watch.
While Disney movies loose money, Illumination movies break records...
Even illumination is mediocre and has obnoxious tropes. Dreamworks is a better company to compare to.
I live how everything Disney makes is honestly just a retelling (from a book, a poem, a legend, etc.), and the first thing to be an ORIGINAL story from the Animation Company (becides the countless shorts they made, but just in their feature-length films alone) is Bolt, made in 2011! If you REALLY want to go further back, you could also say Dinosaur (2000) or even Emperor's New Groove (2000), it took them that long to make something original and new instead of a retelling
So happy that this channel already have over 10k subscribers 😭🖤
I don’t know why they don’t recreate some of their worse movies like The Black Cauldron where they can explore new ideas and characters. Or yk, they could make a new story
I've heard that the Super Mario Bros. movie has stomped Disney like a Goomba despite its negative reception from critics. Yeah, the same guys who praised Disney trash like Turning Red, Raya and the Last Dragon, The Incredibles II, and the Frozen movies.
6:00 I love the classic Treasure Island! Although I prefer the Muppets version, which was produced by Disney now that I think about it. That's all they have to if they really feel the need to remake stuff, just add Muppets!
It’s very sad to see this. I wish Disney would go back to doing fairytales like it did before.
Do you have any idea how many fairytales are out there that would be great movies!? They could do a movie about African folklore or Thailand myths or anything really! The possibilities are endless!
Yet their stuck with their “diversity” which to them is race swapping every single character….. seriously how much your going to bet that if they do a live action frozen movie they will race swap Elsa and Anna?
I remember Moana just came out a few years ago and their already making a live action 😐 I will always remember what they did to lion king
15:28 damm that stings cause I know you’d be great as ceo cause you see the problems plaguing Disney you would get me to look up to them again you’re great at analysing all the stuff about current Disney that stops me from making the same mistakes when I get out into this industry
God the painful reminder that sequels are constantly milked is so depressing
Also IMO, I think modern disney had a worse influence on cinema than Illumination with their live action remakes, because HTTYD it's going to get the remake treatment for example.
Yh man I don't wanna see a million remakes that will end up sucking but its all Disney's fault
@@stewboy69 At least HTTYD isn't going to be produced by DW themselves, but by a another studio instead (I think) and I hope It wouldn't sucks. For me, modern Disney is like Illumination but x70 worse, what makes me nervous is that their bad influence is encouraging cinema to making a lot of money by being lazy and play it safe by re-using the same content that was made back 35 or 40 years ago instead of creating a brand new interesting story made from scratch.
That's including post-endgame MCU as well, which also doesn't have a good impact for the industry due to we have more movies nowadays that trying to be overly humoristic and goofy asf instead of being serious or at least have a good balance of that.
100 years. 100 YEARS DISNEY HAS BEEN WITH US Y'ALL. THAT IS A STUPIDLY LONG TIME FOR AN ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY.
Disney is just chef Skinner and are making their own "Gusteau's Microwaves"
Walt Disney might have been a bit of a ruthless businessman but he was truly a genius and cared about his work and the kids who enjoyed it. He also was vehemently anticommunist which is always a huge plus.
Yeah Walt was pretty based tbh
Walt, the man, he *is/was* the company. Few as dedicated, daring, and skilled as he was.
I don't think being anticommunist is a point in Walt's favor, considering the animators' strike in 1941 over unfair pay, and Walt's response was to take this personally and fire anyone who took part, including Art Babbitt who helped create Goofy. Not to mention later on getting people he suspected of being communist blacklisted with the House Un-American Activities.
@@nonsensology Communism has nothing to do with fair pay. In communism, you are a slave to the state and the people in power. You are seen as state property rather than an individual who owns themselves and their belongings. You wouldn't even be allowed to demand more, they just arrest you or worse for complaining. Anti-communism is always a good thing, though being anti-communism doesn't automatically make you a good person.
@@nonsensology WWII took a hard toll on every company all over America
All they care about is how many properties they can buy. It’s sad
I feel that the live-action remakes are limited because they don't capture the true essence of the originals. Dreamworks, with their recent works, tried new things and manage to convey messages that are mature and real. The Bad Guys was a fun ride while also putting a new spin on the general heist movie. Puss in Boots: The Last Wish had an accurate depiction of anxiety and the inevitability of death while also still having some elements that makes it a fun story to enjoy. And Dreamworks next film Ruby Gilman: Teenage Kraken is an idea that is completely original and I for one cannot wait for it to come out. Disney needs to learn that while many of its films and franchise are beloved, one can only benefit from something for so long until it loses the charm that made it so great.
Sorry if this is long, just had to get it out of my system.
Art and Business go together like Faust and Mephistopheles.
I don’t blame the company too much, because I also blame social media and many “journalists” of entertainment. Who use “Ism” and “Istaphobes” if they hate what they make. Right now what is the big draw for the “live action” little mermaid film, that she’s now black. Whoopie, now how does this make the story better than the original? How does making the animals photo realistic make the characters better? It’s now all about checking boxes and no longer selling stories. This company lost its soul and is now being run by corporate executives and no longer supporting arts and creativity.
Well there is Hope thanks to that issue with Florida there is a possibility that some of the higher-ups especially Bob iger Jobs that are in Jeopardy
The fact is, even most leftists hate Disney's "wokeness." All it does is make a laughingstock of social-democratic values and provoke Christians and Objectivists into making right-wing propaganda films that manage to be even worse. At least Disney makes a token effort to mask its political agenda, to the point that you might miss it if you blink or stop listening to the dialogue for a second or two. (By contrast, Daily Wire is putting out films that have characters literally saying things like "Let's go, Brandon!" just to get applause.)
The major studio I think is the most successful right now is Disney's number-one rival, Warner Brothers. Batman, Joker, Harley Quinn and certain others have proven themselves major cash cows, and their films have even won critical acclaim. And what's advantageous about the Batman characters in particular is that they are endlessly open to reinterpretation (Joker especially), whereas the STAR WARS characters and the classic fairy tale characters are simpler and much less malleable in terms of characterization, so they can't be changed too much without fans complaining.
What Hollywood truly needs now, I believe, is a fresh set of characters. Even the greatest heroes and villains will start to bore us eventually. It wasn't too long ago that the film studios were offering up truly one-of-a-kind film protagonists: Pee-wee Herman, Kevin McAllister, Buffy, Ace Ventura, the dead people in BEETLEJUICE, the revisionist characters of THE PRINCESS BRIDE, etc. And these films weren't highbrow, esoteric character studies; they were entertainments for the whole family, and so they profoundly influenced popular culture - not always for the best, admittedly, but at least they got people thinking. Also, while these characters were unusual, they weren't perversely weird and off-putting; there was somehow something familiar about them concealed just beneath the originality. I seriously wonder whether there's a place in entertainment today for eccentric characters such as these.
Lmao you sound like a Republikkkan 😂
Playing it safe is not something that highlights a lack of creativity. Playing it safe is something made to generate money to please the board of shareholders who, if not kept content, can leave you into bankruptcy.
One small little thing though, Disney playing it safe of course generates money, but do you seriously think Disney of all things needs to worry about bankruptcy?
@@TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt Companies that used to be known as "Too Big To Fail" have met their inevitable end. Nothing is eternal. Great examples are TWA and Pan Am
Remember that Hollyood does not make "art". They do not allow stuff that's experimental, unique, controversial, eye-opening or personal. They make a "product", aka popular entertainment. Derivative, focus group developed mass media for the masses, samey stories about childish low iq crap that's too basic to be disagreeable or hard to understand. Creativity was never the goal, creativity is the enemy because if something is new or clever or personal it can be unpopular. Even just something like say, a "101 Dalmatians" scene which features a dog stillbirth and resuscitation, a realistic and educational dramatic moment, could not be made today because it isn't watered down and "safe".
You wanna know something that Disney has become? It's becoming a company version of the Once ler from the Lorax and we the audience are the Lorax himself. We're at a point where Disney's too prideful of it's actions and believes that taking chances or doing something original is not needed when it things people will give them money. However, now a days that's not the case and people are wising up and catching on to Disney's game. We're getting sick of them messing with popular IPs like Marvel and Star Wars, Wreck-It Ralph, Frozen, Zootopia, and Toy Story. We're getting tired of Disney remaking the same movies from 1990s and even some older one like Alice in Wonderland, Pete's Dragon, Maleficent, etc.
I wanna bring up something I said on a video by Character-In-Depth when he discussed the Disney Live Action remakes.
"I would say the laziness is only part of the reason why these remakes are so bad and unnecessary. They forget and overlook key aspects that makes the original animated films beloved and remembered for generations. The remakes goes against that and tries to modernize things in films that are trying to be TIMELESS. They disrespect the audience with their forced down political agenda and message, and will attack ANYONE who goes against the 2010-Current Disney. I'm sure there are some positive things in some of these remakes, but they're not enough to keep them from being mediocre to bad, boring to forgettable, and even mocked and memed on."
To quote the Lorax's lyrics from the original demo / cut song Biggering; "Greed... ya see it's like a little pet, alright? A-and the more, and more and more that you go and feed it, the more hungry it'll get! But... You know, you really can't blame greed. No that's stupid. You see, it's got a little worm inside. Oh yeah, that's right. It's one that always needs to feed, and it is never satisfied. You get it? But the more you go and try and find it, the more it likes to hide! Now listen, that is a NASTY little worm! I like to call it... Pride. See, now that's why you're biggering! Listen here, idiot! I'm figuring on biggering! But that biggering's just triggering more biggering! Got that? Alright!"
That basically Disney in a nutshell today. Greed's not just the cause of the problem, it's comes from something much deeper. That being Pride. I'd recommend checking out Joshscorcher's Top 10 Non-Disney Movie Villain Songs to understand the context of the song Biggering and how I used that to compare with Disney. The typical prideful mindset reads and I quote: "Whether by suffering or by my self worth, I am me. There for, I deserve this thing." Pride is the original sin, after all. And it's a part of the human condition.
So what have they done to earn such backlash from us the general public and supposed main targeted audience? Well, they have the wrong type of people running the company and focus so much on the very minor demographic that turns about nearly everybody off. Virtual signaling, political agendas and identity politics, Disney firing particular people because they don't have the mindset they have, disrespecting their audiences and indoctrinating children into disgusting LGBTQ stuff and transgender stuff at such young ages, Ruin beloved IPs with awful creativity just to make a quick buck, and are destroying the very legacy Walt Disney has created himself.
It's no wonder why DreamWorks, Sony, and even Illumination in recent years are dominating over Disney both financially and critically, at least on the audience side of things, screw the actual "professional critics". These companies respect their audiences, they take chances both with the stories and animation styles, they don't forced down any intoxicating political agenda or messaging unlike Disney with Strange World, Lightyear, and Turning Red, and they put entertainment as their main priority over politics.
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
Good sequels aren’t impossible though. I mean just look at any other major studio. Hell, even Pixar was making great sequels before they were assimilated into disney. Toy story 2 and 3 for example
I don't care for Disney's creativity, but it's Pixar that truly saddens me. Pixar has the 22 rules for storytelling which I look up to as a writer and most of the rules talk about expanding creativity and testing it's limits, something I believe in. The rules encouraged new ideas and I believed in it. When they shifted into hashing sequels for sequels sake like Toy Story 4 it felt like the foundation of it's rules were destroyed.
I don't know if it's that they're afraid to.
It's just that they figure it out that it's a hell of a lot easier and they make way more money by not being creative. And it's unfortunately with every creative industry at this point.
Everything from music to fashion.
Everything really comes down to Wish this November. Word on the street is 2D animation is making a return mixed with CGI to hopefully slowly integrate hand drawn animation into their original films again. It’s a classic musical also like Encanto. (Disney musicals are almost always better than non-musicals..ie Strange World and Raya). I still have hope that their animation department can move into a brighter period despite of course the upcoming frozen and zootopia sequels.
As for the remakes, the thing is. I don’t actually have any problem with the intrinsic idea of “live action” remakes of their animated classics. They could tell the story in a whole new way and re-energize it. Sadly most go for copy and paste like TLK or sloppy disjointed culturally inaccurate knock offs like Mulan which missed an opportunity to make a genuinely beautiful cinematic war epic and period peace from the legend ala Hidden Dragon. I’d love to see every animated film get remade into a new medium and elevated but sadly creativity is required which Disney lacks. Cinderella 2015 is the one real exception to the rule. That film is beautiful, elegant, mature, heartfelt, nostalgic but original in all the right ways with a phenomenal original score by Patrick Doyle. They only interpolate the OG score in the credits once! We need more Cinderella-esque remakes not Mulan or Lion King types.
10:05 "Just a shitty nature documentary for kids" 🤣is so true!
Disney is riding this NOSTALGIA wave so hard. And people keep buying into it. Mario movie just became the biggest opening week of a animated movie. Not an original idea, just a 90 min "movie" about a 30+ years old game. The live action remakes keep making money, even beeing terrible. The will keep doing this while people will keep paying to see always the same stuff.
Say it louder for those in the back.
They are doing quantity over quality because they know they have all these franchises with huge legacies and fanbases which barely require trying to make people watch them....but still people will get burnt out eventually, probably quicker than they expected. Trying to fill Disney+ with tons of nostalgia bait rather than trying to establish new legacies and ideas might prove counter-productive in the long term.
They were lucky to land a hit as "The Mandalorian" though, but if you see the people involved in the project it´s not really that surprising.
It seems like everyone is blaming Strange World or almost any others like that, but Disney has done some live action remakes such as 101 Dalmatians, also Disney does have flaws of its own, even while Walt Disney was still alive at that time. The new people who take care of Disney may be having a big mismanagement and don’t truly know about Walt Disney and choose not to keep moving forward and rather play safe, but that doesn’t mean Disney is now a failure. It just means it is one of Disney’s flaws and need to get into a new direction besides live action remakes or sequels and truly understand about Walt Disney. I am hoping that Disney’s next idea, besides remakes and sequels, would be great such as Meet the Robinsons, and maybe try new think like make a movie containing a story about a girl who wants to be a prince and a boy who wants to be a Princess in the same movie
what i think about when it comes to disneys recent movies is the children who have to grow up with them. they have to watch these subpar live action remakes not knowing that theres a better version. disney is completely forgetting its mission: to inspire imagination with amazing stories
I would hope almost all children would still be watching the OGs. Disney animated classics will never go out of fashion. Evidenced by the fact my childhood in the late 90s/2000s was filled with movies decades old by that point.
I'd say that, in a way, Disney has ALWAYS had a creativity problem. Because of their (original) traditionalist stance on values, they mostly turned to the past, even the distant past (folktales and American history), for their subject matter. Even the avant-garde FANTASIA exploited classical music, which was already old-hat by 1940. Meanwhile, Fleischer, Warner Brothers, Hanna-Barbera, etc., focused more on engaging with the contemporary culture and trying to come up with cutting-edge material (until, of course, they started imitating the Disney model).
Ironically enough, I think Disney is still traditionalist from a certain point of view. Aside from all the remakes they've been cranking out since the '90s, they're still looking to the past for inspiration, but now it's the "ethnic" past. To be sure, "multicultural" values are traditional, but they seem radical to "non-ethnic" Americans. (Their recent ALADDIN, for example, was in many ways a love letter to Islamic culture, which is even more traditional than American culture but still seems weird and scary to us.) Disney doesn't seem to realize that most "ethnic" people - at least in the West - are modernist in their outlook, and want to blend in along with everyone else.
I would never call classical music old hat.
Dude, if you think Islamic culture is “weird and scary”, then I cordially invite you to touch grass.
I will admit that I haven't finished the video yet but for how concerned Disney seems to be about making money (which is why they're pumping out rushed sequels) is that they already did this with the direct to video DVDs for franchises like the Jungle Book or Aladdin and they didn't work. Obviously they want to make money, but I wonder if part of it has to do with copyright, especially with the older characters from the 1930s. Where they need to make a movie or some sort of production un order to defend maintaining that copyright. Even so, there should be more respect given to everyone that works hard on the original series. For example, Disney can remake Snow White, but they should add the ideas that they couldn't do back then bc of time or lack of technology. Like the stars dancing scene.
What the fact that Disney have no imagination that they completely given up on original ideas to the point, that they’re rehashing everything that they’ve made within the past years thinking that it will resell making big time records and money because these are past movies, that were financially successful and succeeded by immersion the audience into a world that is magical, but instead declining there, animation their creativity for new ideas to be explored. Instead of Disney, focus more on the live action movies that doesn’t capture no essence of the animated movie, and how it made the audience feel when watching the animated movies. When Disney has a new original movie idea, it’s either not gonna do successfully and is going to be declining because of marketing and lack of promotional materials to actually help push the movie to succeed instead to forever, be forgotten within the hollows of the abyss`
How dare they! Disney and other filmmaking businesses should not just give up on original ideas and creativity and think that original ideas stopped making money a long time ago.
They don't risk anymore
I’m begging y’all to not place your dreams in the hands of corporations. Small independent animation studios could need peoples support way more than this unhealthy obsession with multi million dollar IPs. If you want creativity, dont go to disney or dreamworks or warner bros etc. They dont care what you think as long as they still make money.
Disney lost originality
In both live action and animation i hope they get it back
5:12 I’m sorry but seeing Goofy’s feet not stuffed into the shoes made me feel like I’ve broken the law 😭😭😭😭😭
Honestly Disney most likely feels like they're so big, they no longer feel they need to stick out because "we own a majority of popular franchises"
The higher-ups at Disney clearly snapped after John Carter, The Lone Ranger and Tomorrowland all failed at the box office.
It's ironic. Disney is so big now they can put out anything and people would watch it just because it's Disney. They actually CAN afford to be creative because the big name has already guaranteed a certain amount of audiences unlike some of the small obscured studios.
Yet they're playing safer than anyone else, screaming retreat 100 miles away at the vaguest sight of something remotely resemble a risk.
They totally don't need to. It's simply a choice that they make now that they've lived long enough to become the conservative force of oldness.
Honestly if Disney wants to make stories for "modern audience" why do they have to use fairytales and change and twist them? Go write an original story. Leave the fairytales behind. It seems like they use the older stories as a crutch, even though they don't want it. If you don't want a story where the girl is a princess who gets saved by a prince, then maybe don't fucking go to the stories that has those elements.
This is why there is a song called Suffering With Success
Yeah, a lack of creativity is definitely a problem. It definitely shows. Usually movies or shows are just entertaining stories that are for respecting the audiences who pay for the merchandise. Now their creative aspects are for changing and adding stuff that no body in the audience actually cares about which is race, gender, religion, and sexuality. And they claim to make it because of reality but reality definitely sucks because of war, dept, and shootings. I feel ya because I also want to work for Disney or be inspired by Disney but with the lack of creativity and relying on woke political agenda’s that’s propped up by a focus group bots who doesn’t actually know what’s actually profitable. Franchises new or not the factual profitable of creative is story, knowing the audience or fans, and never deviate from the story no matter how much somebody wants to deviate. That’s all I have to say have a wonderful day.
My big question is what happens when they run out of films to make live action remakes of. And there are only so many sequels that they can make. What happens when the same well they’ve been using finally goes dry?
Biopic of Roy O. Disney?
Two words: Strange World.
I mean, the literal TITLE is so basic that it encapsulates everything that went wrong with that movie.
You need more views/subs man. ❤️
Disney has had moments with creativity problems and lean times before, such as the mashed potatoes and gravy period. But this nonstop run of live action versions of his animated films and the string of flops they produce is even worse.
You talk so much about Disney's big theatrical/streaming films, and you should, but why not talk about how good most of the animated Disney Channel content still is to set a good example for the bigger movie projects? I want to hear your thoughts on Descendants if you have watched those three films, because Descendants is a trilogy of TV movies that are much, much better at cashing in on nostalgia for the animated fairytale classics and adapting them for a more diverse modern world in live-action than any of the theatrical live-action remakes of the same animated films. Descendants knows better about creativity than any of the live-action remakes by finding a way to revive these animated fairytales for a new generation by also writing around a new generation of characters.
Descendants turned out to be much better than I expected it to be because it writes to appeal to the same wide audience of animated Disney fairytales, not to a niche of a narrow audience that is easily offended by every little problem with their past to scrutinize on Twitter or other social media platforms. Unlike Hua Mulan or Cruella or Peter Pan and Wendy, they do not rewrite the past and take out all of that Disney magic for an entirely different audience who likes bizarro blandness. The only problem with this is, as a TV movie, Descendants does not have any of the same wide distribution as the classic animated fairytale films or their live-action remakes. For what the main storylines are, I know Descendants may not be as well-written as another thing people thought Descendants ripped off titled Ever After High, even though it started long after Descendants began pre-production, but I still like Descendants because it is another Wreck-it Ralph situation about main characters who are pre-disposed to be villains and at first they think they like being villains, until they want to change their ways to be accepted among the heroes.
Also, in the realm of animated Disney Junior content, I thought Jake and the Neverland Pirates, Sofia the First and The Lion Guard were much better at generating positive nostalgia for the legacy characters returning decades after the animated movies in which we originally saw them, than any of the live-action remake movies that feature the same characters doing nothing else new. It is exactly the same reason why I think I would prefer the Disney XD series 101 Dalmatian Street over Cruella, even though I have watched neither of them and am only going by what the general consensus has said about them. 101 Dalmatian Street has more of what we liked from 101 Dalmatians in it, especially with more focus and emphasis on the Dalmatians. Cruella is just a poor attempt to mold Cruella into the same sympathetic anti-hero type of villain that we got from Joker.
As i know, the period of Disney making sequels, both for cinemas en home video, were between early 90s till half of 2000s, so that counts around 15 years.
Wich makes me feel that, in this case could happend something similar, maybe even giving the benefit of the doubt, this liveaction/remake period started at early 2010, so i think the studio would start runing out of important propieties to milk around 2025 or 2030 in the worst of the facts. Then they would have two options.
Or keep going with this plan but with more obscure films that were "cult following" films like Atlantis or the Black Cauldron, of course with the issue that being "cult followed" they wouldnt bring as much public as they wished being huge flops in the most cases. Or going back to make new stories wich might not be the best ever made or classics, but something like Wrecking Ralph or Tangled.
I want to help disney. I want to be that CEO who moves disney back on top
What would you do as Disney CEO?
Walt Disney wouldnt be proud lol
Here's my question are/if/when ars we getting a live action version of the bad sequels that exists.
It's like Walter was a great gambler risking for rewards that imagineer even more rewarding endeavors, whereas now they are hooked on gambling but keep getting caught cheating or failing to understand why Walter did these risks... Imagineering is dying by their own hands
8:20-8:23 i was like 6 when that movie came out, so I was oblivious that that movie was a remake
Modern Mouse channel has two series of videos, Disney Animation Eras Explained & Disney Live Action Eras Explained which show the continual rise & fall of Disney films. This phenomenon isn’t new to film studios, especially ones that focus on animation.
This is why Dreamworks has been beating Disney, it is true I’m annoyed of all the comparing but Dreamworks has been beating it. Not in money but like in movies and stuff. Dreamworks is inconsistent but u don’t always need top notch quality in every movie. Atleast their being creative. Oh wait Trolls 3
Trolls is not a bad movie, stop overreacting
@@Disneyfan82 but that "singing killed my grandma" line was legit awful.
@@rommix0 I've seen worse
Maybe it is just time to say goodbye to Disney and Pixar? Everything and everyone ages, time doesn't wait for anyone. So perhaps it is time to let go as well