What people don't realize today is how original Meyerbeer was, and how almost every composer after 1840 borrowed his ideas and his harmony and his orchestration effects. People compare him unfavorably to Wagner only because they came to know Wagner's later music first. Of course, his music is not all at a consistent level, but that was intentional. As Mendelssohn said, after hearing Robert le Diable, "Etwas fuer jeden" -- Something for everyone!
Such fucking bullshit. This piece, despite pleasant, delightful and round around the corners, is nothing new, nothing much and pretty basic. The harmony sounds like something Haydn would write in a bad day, he doesn't modulate to a distant tonality not even once the whole piece, he basically stays in the tonic, dominant and relative tonality the ENTIRE piece. His harmony was balls and so was Berlioz's, but Berlioz transcendent this with his writing and - quite absurd, according to Stravinsky - his instrumentation. Meyerbeer has nothing going for him. It's just noise, but nice one. Big effects, but both his orchestration and his harmonies were nothing new at the time. He's the equivalent of a Paul Varhoeven: indulgent, big and commercial, but there's always something more going on under the hood.
The tremendous success of Le prophète at its Paris première provoked Wagner's anti-Jewish attack on Meyerbeer, in Das Judenthum in der Musik, which also attacked Mendelssohn.
to breadis: Meyerbeer is not a 1 hit wonder, most of his operas enjoyed great exposure, befor that Wagner bastard betrayed his once mentor and attacked his music to the point of oblivion
Meyerbeer is very far from a one opera composer. His ballet for this opera, The Prophet, is perfomed often. It is the first ballet to use roller skates, recently invented.
EN MUCHAS OCASIONES HE OIDO ESTA VERSIÓN CON EL NOMBRE DE " LA ALFONSINA " . SUPONGO QUE DEBIÓ SER MANIPULADA PARA CONVERTIRLA EN MARCHA ESPAÑOLA Y HONRAR LA MEMORIA DEL REY ALFONSO XII.
Hmm. There IS a resemblance, I'll give you that. The "Bach- theme" though, is the most insignificant part of the piece (i.m.o.). It is more creepy, though, listening to other Meyerbeer compositions (and I haven't Heard that many) where themes and ideas have been downright stolen by later composers as Wagner and Saint-Saëns.
Beautiful music created by what sounds like a lovely human being who mistakenly gave Wagner, that hateful human being, too much money and emotional support. Wagner, then later, Hitler( it burns my fingers to type their names) were both rabid anti-semites who couldn’t stand Jews getting ahead. They were jealous of all Jews and descended into a world of ugly hatred for no real reason. Both Wagner and Hitler set the stage for the Holocaust. Eventually Meyerbeer won, the Jews survived. Hitler wisely killed himself and Wagner lived a terrible life while mistreating all the women he used. Wagner was so filled with hatred that had overwhelmed his musical works.
Meyerbeer really deserves more appreciation today!
What people don't realize today is how original Meyerbeer was, and how almost every composer after 1840 borrowed his ideas and his harmony and his orchestration effects. People compare him unfavorably to Wagner only because they came to know Wagner's later music first. Of course, his music is not all at a consistent level, but that was intentional. As Mendelssohn said, after hearing Robert le Diable, "Etwas fuer jeden" -- Something for everyone!
Such fucking bullshit. This piece, despite pleasant, delightful and round around the corners, is nothing new, nothing much and pretty basic. The harmony sounds like something Haydn would write in a bad day, he doesn't modulate to a distant tonality not even once the whole piece, he basically stays in the tonic, dominant and relative tonality the ENTIRE piece. His harmony was balls and so was Berlioz's, but Berlioz transcendent this with his writing and - quite absurd, according to Stravinsky - his instrumentation. Meyerbeer has nothing going for him. It's just noise, but nice one. Big effects, but both his orchestration and his harmonies were nothing new at the time. He's the equivalent of a Paul Varhoeven: indulgent, big and commercial, but there's always something more going on under the hood.
DF Urrows
Even Wagner copied him.
Happy Birthday, Giacomo Meyerbeer! 🎉
I play flute and my concert band is playing this amazing song!
If only my Mondays were like this sounds. Alexandra
I believe this is Richard Bonygne conducting the London Symphony Orchestra
Very uplifting piece of music! Thanks for posting!
This beautiful song was played as the recessional for the graduation of Texas A & M students on May 31, 1935.
The tremendous success of Le prophète at its Paris première provoked Wagner's anti-Jewish attack on Meyerbeer, in Das Judenthum in der Musik, which also attacked Mendelssohn.
Verdi, Un Ballo in Maschera Finale 1. act!!!
Great !!! thank you !!!
Fatma Dridi Ben Aissa uuiiii
to breadis: Meyerbeer is not a 1 hit wonder, most of his operas enjoyed great exposure, befor that Wagner bastard betrayed his once mentor and attacked his music to the point of oblivion
First I disliked this piece, but now I love it.
la Grandeza y la Gloria en su maxim expresion, musica para los grandes esadistas que hace mucho tiempo dejaron de existir.-
Meyerbeer is very far from a one opera composer. His ballet for this opera, The Prophet, is perfomed often. It is the first ballet to use roller skates, recently invented.
Oh you poor thing and I'm serious. My high school plays this for graduation as the seniors are leaving.
I have to study this in 1 week on my baritone sax... Challenge accepted!
nl502 how’d it go?
EN MUCHAS OCASIONES HE OIDO ESTA VERSIÓN CON EL NOMBRE DE " LA ALFONSINA " . SUPONGO QUE DEBIÓ SER MANIPULADA PARA CONVERTIRLA EN MARCHA ESPAÑOLA Y HONRAR LA MEMORIA DEL REY ALFONSO XII.
Bit of a gallop to the altar here! Hope the "coronee" was fit! Wagner hated it, probably because it was so popular.
Sounds better on Pipe Organ
that pic says it ALL!
Steamboy brought me here.
the face tells me "You schmuck!...grr..."
To my ear this sounds very similar to Bach's Musette in D major.
+Baron de Rochemont Seriously?
+guntax59 Listen from 0:19 and compare that with the first notes of Musette in D major, that's what I mean.
Hmm. There IS a resemblance, I'll give you that. The "Bach- theme" though, is the most insignificant part of the piece (i.m.o.). It is more creepy, though, listening to other Meyerbeer compositions (and I haven't Heard that many) where themes and ideas have been downright stolen by later composers as Wagner and Saint-Saëns.
The composer who coined the phrase "Hold my beer"
마이어베어-대관식 행진곡
Listening at this kind of musik, one must recognize that Richard Wagner was right.
ouch.
ouch.
U.S.A
Beautiful music created by what sounds like a lovely human being who mistakenly gave Wagner, that hateful human being, too much money and emotional support. Wagner, then later, Hitler( it burns my fingers to type their names) were both rabid anti-semites who couldn’t stand Jews getting ahead. They were jealous of all Jews and descended into a world of ugly hatred for no real reason. Both Wagner and Hitler set the stage for the Holocaust. Eventually Meyerbeer won, the Jews survived. Hitler wisely killed himself and Wagner lived a terrible life while mistreating all the women he used. Wagner was so filled with hatred that had overwhelmed his musical works.
I'd down-thumb this but that wouldn't be fair to you.
I'm so, so sorry
No wonder Wagner couldn't stand him