Chris Broussard & Rob Parker - Is Julian Edelman a Hall of Famer?
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker react to the news that 12-year veteran WR for the New England Patriots, Julian Edelman has announced his retirement from the NFL. Is he worthy of being immortalized in the Hall of Fame?
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36 touchdowns in 12 years = 3 TD’s per YEAR, and ZERO pro bowls- HELL no he ain’t a HOF!!!
He’s got some legendary playoff moments but that’s not enough at all.
Agreed. Big fan but not a HOF’er. He’ll get into the Hall of Playoff Excellence
Super Bowl MVP
Injuries put a nail in it
Definitely not a Hall of Famer, really nice contributor to their success but so was Troy Brown back in the day but nobody is talking about him.
He's retiring now so he can can come back in a year and play for Brady like Gronk did 😅
Idk bro lmfao. He might just be a different breed, with the whole foxboro forever thing
Won't happen he has said he will never play for another team and on top of that the is a shell of himself he can't perform
He is done physicaly
Why does he have to wait a year the patriots had cut him.. then he said he was retiring
When Gronk “retired”, he was already a future HOF before joining the Bucs
36 touchdowns for his whole career really I didn't know that
Yeah that sucks man lol. 3 TD’s per season 😂
Gronk was getting the majority of them TDS
Yeah I def had no clue about that.
“Dink and dunked” 🤣 Rob might be rt.
@@postmastersgt1670 cares
36 TDs in 12 years, Moss had 23 in one season with the same QB lol
That about sums it up.
Jules gets in the Patriots HOF, the Football HOF he won't be able to make....but let me paint the picture.....7th round draft pick (nobody wanted him), a QB coming out of Kent State......switched positions....has multiple punt return TDs, has a defensive TD, has many tackles, defensive coverages, even thew a clutch TD pass in the playoffs....played any position his coach assigned him on.....we haven't even gotten to his offensive production, which is limited because he was part of a dynasty where he played a role and didnt put up garbage time stats....nothing but clutch in the postseason, one of the clutchest WRs in the playoffs behind the GOAT Jerry Rice.....never made the pro bowl, never was a top 5 or even top 10 WR of his time (fantasy owners might say he was a PPR machine)....3x SB Champ (was clutch/pivotal in every single SB, including multiple hard nosed 3rd down conversions to go along with the go-ahead TD that gave them the lead for good against the Seahawks), SB MVP as he shredded a top ranked Rams defense, one of the greatest Super Bowl catches against the Falcons in the biggest comeback in the history of the sport...a 3rd down MACHINE regular/post season.....a short undervalued white guy thats tough as nails...a leader on the sidelines and in the huddle....one of the best slot WRs ever.....he won't get in to the Football HOF, but you better believe he will go down as one of the greatest underdog stories in all sports, RELENTLESS......he did EVERYTHING for his team........that's a Hall of Famer to me.....feel free to add anything i missed or give your take.....
“ I don’t like longevity achievements” “Eli is top 10 in a lot” being top 10 is a longevity achievement Rob 🤦🏻♂️
Rob only wants Eli in cause he beat Brady twice. Rob know dang well Eli not HOF worthy
Mehhhh. Being top 10 isn’t as much of a longevity achievement as it is a high usage achievement. Especially when it’s X per Y. 5.2 yards per attempt is legendary, even with a nine year career.
Put him in the patriots ring of honor. End of story.
Rob “how many touchdowns did he have in that game? Ok just curious” Parker
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😂😂😂
Nahh he’s not a HoF... There’s no debate about this at all 😂😂😂 36 Tds? I guess Joe Flacco would be a HoF too cause he was good in the postseason
Rob knows how to spin a topic to his liking. The HOF already suspect if Eli and Romo gonna get in.
Romo definitely not a hall of gamer Eli probably will be just based of Super Bowls
@@marcusyosif1041 so if its based off Super Bowls then Eldeman should get in. Eli only gettin in because of his last name. Thats a fact
@@postmastersgt1670
Eli is getting in because he beat Tom Brady twice in the Super Bowl and played great in both playoff runs. Not to mention he's top 10 in every major category.
@@HopefulNihilist those two Super Bowls were flukes Eli stats dont backup him being in the HOF period. If his last name wasnt Manning no way would he get in.
Not Eli.. he top 10 in categories and 2time SB MVP... Romo was trash
Pro bowls are irrelevant. What are you fools talking about? Edelman showed up in the most important games. What did Chris Carter ever do, he padded stats!
Guys he never made a pro bowl or an all pro so by NFL rules he can’t be a hall of famer. Plus only 3 1,000 yard seasons if that’s hall of fame put me at receiver with a quarterback like Brady who just dinks and dunks.
Patriots Hall of Fame for sure.
He’s not a HOF but he is definitely a good wr
a touchdown is nothing without those 3rd down completion edelman was famous for.
Definitely a 3rd and 15 yards to go Edelman going to get that first down
Libert L
@@kenflagler493 no
I’m not saying he is definitely a Hall of Famer, but we shouldn’t pretend like it would be crazy to let him in. Edelman was never the man in the regular season, but in the playoffs, he was a main security blanket for Tom Brady. It’s kinda like the “playoff Rondo” effect in the NBA. You don’t get to be second in career playoff catches without sustained postseason success. Dude is second to Jerry freakin Rice!! That’s badass. He also won super bowl mvp in a game that Tom Brady won. Only one other person can say that. He may get in, he may not get in. It doesn’t matter to me. But if he does get in, it won’t cheapen the hall in my opinion. - A Giants fan.
For what he did as an undersized receiver and as a slot receiver, he shouldn’t be completely over looked. I wouldn’t be outraged if he didn’t get in. I’d 100% put Sterling Sharpe in over him that’s for sure
He might be the greatest 7th round pick of all time. Switching from qb to slot reciever 3x champ and 1 superbowl mvp second in receptions to only Jerry Rice in the post season
@@dougsmith6077 Shannon Sharpe was a seventh rounder so no Edelman is not.
@@kitkat6782 edleman is better than sharpe wtf
@@salazarberne5601 Aaaand I’m done talking to you.
@@kitkat6782 did sharp switch to a totally different position than the one he played in college? No? Didn't think so. Also Edelman has a supebowl mvp sharp does not don't forget Edelman threw like 2 or 3 tds and actually played defensive back for the pats in the early years for like 1 or 2 games
Absolutely not.
if you remove the athletic talent and duration argument, he is certainly a HOF, small stature with giant impact he was one of favorites Tom Brady WR and certainly along with Brady, they were the most disrespectful and the most successful! he was lethal and mostly efficient in the playoffs! but of course most analysts only look at big bodies and ability to jump and run, they don't have sterling sharp in the HOF!!! i am not a patriot's fan but he was along with Gronk the most feared during the Brady dynasty
He should never get in the Hall of Fame,,,if he does,, Then everyone who's got 37 touchdowns need to be in the Hall of Fame he ain't even got that
Then Eli and Romo should not get in at all.
@@postmastersgt1670 so true
@@postmastersgt1670 Romo is not getting in but Eli yes
@@Slince_432 if Eli get in then they have to put Romo in they the same exact player. Neither were ever among the elite at their position
@@postmastersgt1670 yeah but at least Eli has a legitimate resume two Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP under his belt. I doubt Tony Romo has even played in one NFC Conference Championship Game
Boston sports hall of fame. But not the regular one. No
First time I agree with Rob 1000%. If there is a debate it’s a no.
Good stuff
No for Eli too
Then thats a solid No for Eli but Rob thinks he shold get in only cause he beat Brady twice in the Suer Bowl and we all know how much Rob hates Brady
He's not a hall of Famer because he doesn't have the regular season numbers, but man Edelman was awesome! Great route runner, great punt returner, and he always came up clutch in the big games. He will definitely be in the Patriots Ring of Honor
If Eli is a HOF so is Edelman simple as that. Edelman is by far the better playoff performer and frankly it’s not even close. Don’t let the 2 miracle plays fool you Eli did not play well in both Super Bowls abs was carried by his defense. Edelman torched the legion of boom aka one of the best secondaries ever, won super bowl mvp guarded against jalen Ramsey who has HOF potential, was the main receiver and made one of the best SB plays ever against ATL. That to go along with being definitively the second best playoff WR of all time
Eli has stats AND rings though, and Eli did play well in both Super Bowl runs. While I personally don't think he's a hall of famer, he has a FAR better case than Edelman.
Du comes thru when they need the most. A lot ya hall of fame wide outs can’t do that. Garbage stats.
Not a HOFer but your wrong that he won't be in the story of the NFL. He bailed out Brady and was always clutch. If not for him and gronk making crucial plays in critical moments, this team would not be the best dynasty in football history. I hate the pats but he will be on our TV in some historic references for years to come.
Maybe in like 20-40 years. Too many people who were actually dominant at their position who had to wait
YSSR TM He wasnt dominant
He just took it to another level in the playoffs he had mediocre regular seasons weird career but Tom Brady needed him big time
Sometimes I wonder why Chris keeps Rob around. Dude is literally looking down at his phone the whole time, every time
They’re at home. What do you want?
Bro hop off, who gives af
If you’re in any all time category in the NFL you’re definitely a hall of famer
STFU
Uhhh no.
Nah. Someone out there has the most all time yards on punt returns? They should make the HoF? Nah.
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Shock horror! Rob don't recongize the Patriots again. It gets so tiresome the hate. Pound for pound the toughest out there! If Edelman isn't than Eli aint. Easy debate over.
It’s like when the Oklahoma City thunder retired Nick Collison jersey...
Hell no he ain’t no hall of famer, if sterling sharpe ain’t in the hof then half these dudes can’t even hold a candle to him 💯
J.E is a playoff legend and has 3 RINGS
Sterling Sharpe shouldve been in he got the numbers to back it up.
@John Snipe Steve Kerr has 5 rings and clutch in the playoffs. Is he a HOF?! Rings have nothing to do wirh Being HOF worthy.
36 TD in 12 years and 1 pro bowl?! Hell no!
@@italiarosa4666 well rings and name recognition is why Eli will get in.
@@italiarosa4666 kerr should be... Especially for coach
No way is he HOF. I mean cmon..he had s great career just leave it at that. Why when a really good player hangs it up this is the first thing they ask?
Exactly
Lynn Swan has the exact same resume as Edelman except that Edelman played less games, has more receptions (620 to 338) more yards ( 6822 to 5462) and incredible post season numbers and you have to take into account that he played in the slot . If Swan is in with those pedestrian numbers then Edelman should be seriously considered
Different eras buddy when it comes down to the stats, plus Lynn swann made it to multiple pro bowls and was an all pro multiple times which Edelman hasn't and that's the main factor. Every hall of famer has made it to the pro bowl multiple times
What’s more important, post season or regular season? If he number 2 in all categories post season he deserves to be in there. I think that means more than any pro bowl or regular season stat. Plus won 1 Super Bowl mvp come on man
People always say: "can you tell the history of the NFL without a player". I don't think you can speak about the years he was active without calling his name out numerous times
Wake up Robb!!!! You notice Chris calls out Robs name to wake him up...Robb your disrespectful
If he's a hall of famer then Eli Manning is a 1st or 2nd ballot hall of famer
I say the reverse if Eli is a HOF then you got to put Edleman in.
Eli is top 10 in major categories and 2time SB MVP... He is first ballot
@@jonsnipe5484 lmao first ballot. Eli Manning. Well all that would prove is the HOF voters are out of touch. So Eli a 1st ballot but TO wasnt. You got to be kidding me
@@postmastersgt1670 you really don't know what your talking about 😂😂😂
@@jonsnipe5484 Eli should not be first - or second ballot. He should not get in, but they will put him in. If Kurt Warner had to wait three times, then Eli should have to wait at least that long. Making him first ballot would be an insult to the hall and first ballot HOF's.
Rob is great at creating narratives out of thin air.. I have never heard of anyone ever saying Tom Brady didn't play with anybody. Gronk/Moss immediately disqualify this narrative period
Mark Sanchez should be in the HOF because he has the most road playoff wins in history
We don’t have to make the case Chris, you made it when you said hes second to jerry rice in two categories.
Lol
Man I'm sorry but you can't make the HOF with zero pro bowls
@@Yodasbrother3 the pro bowl is garbage. It’s not about winning, it’s about fame, name recognition, and some talent.
Who picks for the hall of fame because all the players that played against Edelman will all agree he is worthy
To hear all these"high profiled"WR's say JE11 isn't a HOF'er is like when shooter told happy gilmore he wasn't a golfer...the been playing WR most of their lives & this man had had more memorable moments@ the position!
Edelman should be in the Hall of Fame on guts and determination alone.
At the least an inspiration for every kid out there that heard- "Kid, you're too small, you'll never make it"
Guts and determination don't get you to the hall of fame. There are many players with guts and determination. You don't watch Football though
@@justsolid8741
Judging by all the videos you have posted here on You Tube of all your talents, world experience, and knowledge (especially football), I guess we should hold you in reverence.
This is your life? Responding to comments posted by others?
Sounds exiting.
Mom must be proud.
Get out much?
Get a life chump..
I love this show but Chris and Rob suffer from losers mentality!! No Eldleman is not a HOFer in the conventional sense but in during winning time when it counts the man was an absolute beast ! That has to matter in some universe somewhere. In the words of the great Herm Edward's " you play to win the game " and Eldleman is a winner . How the hell can T.O who never won nothing get in but Eldleman doesn't even get a consideration? Stop it , at least consider the man !
Wow......this gotta be the dumbest comment for this video.
No way no how!
In Eli Mannings other 16 seasons besides the 2 SB lucky catches by Manningham and Tyre...he either failed to get into the playoffs or was 0-4 one and done ! He was a top 10 qb in.....turnovers. an interception machine. No hall for Eli.
Cant compare Julian Edelman to outside receivers like Randy moss, compare him to other slot receivers. Is he 1 of the best slot receivers ever? yes. Who cares how many total TD's he had. he kept more drives alive than anyone else on the team, on 3rd downs, and anytime they needed to keep the drive alive. The dude is 2nd behind Jerry rice in playoff receptions.... Not saying he's a lock but he definitely should be considered . Anyone that doesn't see that, didn't watch him play.
Lol Chris got Rob when he said Eli 😂
I haven't watched the vid yet....but man i hope i get a
.." No way!! No hoooww!!!
I can't even believe this is a question. Hell no he ain't a HOF wide receiver. Was he good? Yeah. But elite, which is what the HOF is made for? Absolutely not. Being a post season stand-out for a few years don't cut it. You need to be dominating in the post season AND regular season, which Edelman didn't.
100% agree
People think very good players should be in the Hall of Fame. You can't be in the Hall of Fame, if you wasn't considered a top 15 player at your position.
That’s how I feel about eli
@@rasta20032 While,I agree with you about Eli. Eli have more of an argument than Edelman..
@@anatsusha09 I agree .
@@anatsusha09 Yep. Eli is at least debatable with having 4 Pro Bowls. He's in the hall of very good to me. Edelman is in the hall of decent and admirable.
Steve Kerr should be.
8 rings 3 with the bulls hit the big shot.
2 with the spurs.
3 as the head coach of the warriors arguably the best team ever.
3 superbowls. A very integral part of those teams. Playoff stats are second only to rice.
If eli gets in for playoff performances then you gotta put in edelman
Edleman Has had more big games and big catches Than Calvin Johnson and any Hall of famer from the same era you wanna name. He should be in HOF
If Edelman gets to 9000 yds he is a Hall of Famer, but is in the Hall of pretty good right now. His playoffs number can't be hated on for real.
huge Julian Edelman fan trust me however Julian Edelman has no Chance to be inducted in the Hall of Fame because of his numbers I believe he's around 25 maybe 35 touchdown in his regular season career only had a thousand-yard Seasons twice in his career only has 0 Pro Bowl in his resume and never led the league in receptions or Yards.. I do believe he has a better chance getting into All Time Patriots Hall of Fame
Love Jules... but he didn’t make one Pro Bowl so I doubt he gets in
Here's the thing. If Rob can discredit/discount regular season stats (e.g. Stat Padford etc...) then we can assume that means the postseason is the end-all be-all. So if Julian Edelman is 2nd all time in NFL History behind only Jerry Rice in postseason WR stats and has 3 rings and a Super Bowl MVP to boot then he must be a Hall Of Famer right? If regular season stats can be discredited as just garbage time yards and receptions with the majority of players never winning anything then a WR with the 2nd best postseason career ever arguably eclipses almost any regular season career accumulation does it not? I'm not saying he should be 100%. I just feel there should be more nuance in the discussion is all
36 career touchdowns. 😂😂 just throw him in the pats ring of honor and call it a day.
It's clear they never watched football He balled out in the playoffs next level player
I needed a good laugh (literally). That fool compared Brady-Edelman to Shaq-Kobe and Jordan-Pippen. LOL
Hines Ward has 85 tds and 12k yards and was never even a finalist for the HOF...
So no Julian ain’t even close
Sterling Sharpe played 1988 - 1994...had a career ending injury yet he has 595 receptions 8134 yards receiving and 65 touchdowns...Edelman played 12 seasons has 620 receptions 6822 yards receiving played 137 games 36 touchdowns...Sharpe has 1312 more receiving yards my goodness plus Edelman has only 25 more career receptions than Sterling Sharpe....love Edelman he indeed was a baller but he is not a Hall of Famer in my opinion.
100% hall of famer
HE IS ALL AROUND BRO ¶
Yall losing ur mines.. JuJu is a HOF..the best clutch playoff receiver in history..period this man only wins when it matters the most.period
0 pro bowls is honestly disqualifying. Regardless.
NO
Great postseason stats, but was the guy EVER a top 10 WR during his 12 years in the NFL? No. I'm not even answering the question.
He's not even eligible to make the Hall. It's required to have at least one Pro Bowl or All Pro appearance.
@@TRUTHaintHATING Even if you are a pro bowl selection but didn't play in the pro bowl, it still counts. Edelman has none.
@@TRUTHaintHATING espn needs a fact checker then
@@TRUTHaintHATING Brady is tied first in pro bowl selections
Hall of fame trash anyway. I’d take rings all day. Big game is wer it matters.
All the games are important
Definitely NOT
If Eli gets in...Jules gets in...maybe not 1st ballot
How is this even a question? Compare his stats to Hines Ward, who can’t sniff the hall (and has a SB MVP too), it’s not even close.
This is a joke right?
Rob is so proud of himself
He’s not coming back. He gets a $2m injury protection bonus if he retires now.
I don't think he is a hall of famer but the case for him is easy. The Patriots offense never ran through one man. His stats were always going to be muted. Had he of been the focal point he could have had gaudy stats and pro bowls. Not unlike Wes Welker. What he was asked to do he did at a hall of fame clip. Moving the chains on third down. Blocking. Jules has had the most incredible blocks you have ever seen. Tackling. The guy could tackle. Electric returns. He was a dominant returner. He played DB and he has thrown touchdown passes.
This is admittedly a could have argument. I understand that and that's why I say he isn't a hall of famer but what I won't do is pretend that he couldn't have been. Especially when we have evidence. In the playoffs when he was asked to do more he did. He proved he could put up numbers when he was asked. In fact he proved he could do anything on the field of play outside of kicking when he was asked to do it.
Rob is wrong about the NFL HOF letting in too many people. It's far from watered down.
Easy hof - pro bowl & all pro selected by ppl like Chris who never liked him. Best slot receiver for past decade
He's super clutch and showed up when it mattered most. But we can't just skip the regular season?? That's the main body of your career and he wasn't that guy..
Neither was Eli but Rob claims he should get into the HOF
@@postmastersgt1670 Eli has top 10 all time stats as a QB in the regular season. He aint his brother but he's good. Secondly a QB is more important so if you succeed you'll get more credit
Greatest playoff wr EVER. His catch against the falcons in the super bowl too, best catch ever, one of the best slot wr ever too lol
Jerry rice exists
Smh jerry rice is the best playoff WR . im surprised any1 has to say that
Rufrombostuuuuun?
😂😂😂
It’s laughable. If a player had 50 home runs in the world series, but never made an all star team, he’d be first ballot hall of fame,Chris.
Hell no
Y’all are crazy. Jerry Rice and Julian Edelman in the same breathe is a joke.
I'm still surprise Calvin got into the hall of fame. He isn't top 20 in recieving yards. Barely made the top 20 in recieving tds.
If people like Eldeman and Eli get in the HOF, its a done deal, the HOF is a joke.
Lmao rob struggling with this. He knows edelman isnt a hofer, but wants edelman to be a hofer so he can say brady played a hof WR for over a decade to downplay brady’s achievement.
That damn Moose Johnson arguement. Put him in the ring of honor.
If he's not a HOF, then neither is Lynn Swann
I’d say Wes Walker was technically better and I don’t think Welker gets in..... BUT when the dust settles and all people remember is 3xSB, 1x SB MVP and all those great moments then you never know
Either way no one needs to hear Nick Wright opinion - He HATES Edelman for when he joked about Nicks hair lol
Clutch performances, showing up on multiple occasions when the bright lights are on, that’s what matters MOST! THERES NO DEBATE, ROB!
i didnt know making a PRO BOWL validates hall of fame consideration. last time i checked edleman has more super bowls than eli, rodgers, brees, peyton manning and other players
Both of you ask yourselves this question. When was Edelman EVER a top 10 WR? Don’t worry, I’ll wait. And if you’re gonna base your argument off just the playoffs, then Calvin Johnson shouldn’t be in the HOF because he only played in 2 playoff games.
@@JamesHall_II what about vince wilfork?
@@TheMegatron673 Wilfork is a hall of very good player, like Donovan McNabb and Philip Rivers.
@@TheMegatron673 Vince has 5 pro bowls & 4 all pro seasons to his name. He has an argument for the HOF.
His playoff records are elite but I still won’t put him in the hall of fame. Hall of good at the top because of post season
If t.o. barely got in... no way Edelman gets in. Its hard for recivers. The best receivers wait years to get in. So i dont see how a career slot receiver gets in.
Julian is the Iguodala of the nfl.
Don’t disrespect Jules like that edelmans stats are way better than iguodala in the playoffs
Why do you have to have production in the regular season? OBVIOUSLY, the patriots didn’t even need it! If you were a baseball player who didn’t make any all star teams, but cranked fifty homers and seventy rbis in the playoffs, you’re first ballot. You MADE the playoffs and then when you got there, you performed. Sap is basically saying racism is the reason Hines ward can’t get in but we’re discussing Edelman. I’m black, I know what he’s coding. How come Hines ward isn’t second to Jerry Rice?
Being a hall of famer is about being the best of the best. Edelman isn't even a top 20 receiver of his own era, hell he's not even the best white receiver of his era lol. Regular season matters because that's when the playing field is the most even. The only reason Edelman has such high playoff numbers is because he got carried to them by Brady. Would Edelman even be a thing without Brady? No. And that's the thing about being a hall of famer, a hall of famer is great no matter what. Jerry Rice is Jerry Rice with or without Montana. Hines Ward was a WAAAAY better receiver than Edelman and he's got the playoff stats as well and he can't even get into the hall. Edelman isn't even better than a guy like Greg Jennings or Wes Welker.
@@blackanimelover18 do you really think we’d be talking about pippin if he didn’t play with Jordan? Edelman ran the routes, and made the catches in the clutch. Catches when it doesn’t matter don’t count. Take any great receiver, many of them perform on off games and rack up stats when the other team might not even be motivated, and then when the playoffs come, they somehow can’t get separation.he get s separation in the clutch, he runs his routes right, and he makes difficult catches when the other team is highly motivated. Think about it. Like Colin Cowherd says, Don’t just try to be right, get it right.
No pro bowls no all pros less than 7k yards not even 40 tds. Hines Ward isn’t even in the hall and his stats are way better
Eli shouldn't be a hall of famer either cuz he's greatest time only came in those 2 Sb with lucky throws and catch not to mention he led the league in interceptions multiple times
Gronk for sure a hall of famer, he more important with a better story. Edelman gets overshadowed plus his regular season numbers are subpar. No pro bowls or all pros 😖
NBA clutch BIG SHOT BOB, reportedly said OUCH when he hears Hall of Fame associated with Julian Edelman. Real ouch talk.
This is no debate! He's not close to being a HOFer.