D336N? Why Waypoints have such STRANGE NAMES and HOW TO READ THEM | Real Airline Pilot
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Yes please more explaining WHY things are named as they are
Very interesting, I never knew that convention. I would be interested in the other waypoint conventions like CF/CI/FF etc... I gather these are derived from the ARINC leg types?
C means like a center line fix and F final fix, and the i of CI means center line fix for an ILS app, and F is a generic one (thats for honywell mcdu) (CF can also mean like a Final Course fix and FF final fix)
Thank you for this one, I always assumed that these were random because they didn't come up with an actual name. Now I know.
Great info thanks! And yes I would love a video explaining other naming conventions 👍🙏
Important to know that in some cases there are multiple naming conventions that can be used. That’s why you’ll sometimes see a diff between Jepp, Lido and Navblue data.
What are the other naming conventions? I'm very interested!
For instance you have the AIRINC-424 shorthand convention, used frequently during oceanic crossings, particular random routes. As well as in the upper and lower latitudes which tend to be devoid of airways and traffic is more sparse.
It’s a shorthand used to define a lat/long anywhere on the globe in a resolution of as low as .5deg increments in 5-7chars… makes programming your FMS much simpler.
You also have the PBD naming convention (place bearing distance). Take the IDENT of a fix/navaid, define and append the outbound course and distance in nm. Used frequently by dispatchers/AOC/ATC when you get rerouting based off convective cells/Wx along your route, or maybe active TFR’s. Also useful for generating a course off a DME only navaid or if the VOR of a VOR/DME or VORTAC is U/S or Out Of Service.
Take the GCO (Chicago) DME for instance. If I wanted to define a PBD waypoint based on a 212 degree outbound heading at 15nm, it can be written as GCO212015.
Some Honeywell FMS’s require you to add slashes in between though: I.e. GCO/212/15.
Also the convention for the fixes on the approach during the turn to final and over the FAF that Emmy was speaking about toward the end represent the Center-Fix, or course “C”, and the Final Fix “F” . They are appended with a letter representing the type of approach, and the runway identifier. So you might see something like “CF011” for the course fix of RWY 11 when there is only one published instrument approach, or “FV36R” for the final approach fix of a VOR approach to RWY 36R.
Also, idk how interesting this is. But if you look up around Perryville Alaska (PAJC) and other areas in the PAZA FIR, you will see some low altitude Airways like “G10”, and “R2”… these are artifacts from the original airway names which used to actually be colors… e.g “G” for Green, “R” for Red, etc…
I think they had black, yellow and blue as well.
@@chrzoc Very interesting! Thank you very much for the information!
@@larsw8776 you got it buddy 🍻
I have a mental image of a pilot singing the alphabet and counting with his fingers.
I was waiting for the explanations on FS12, CS12 :D Hope you'll do another video to explain that. Thanks!
I was always lead to believe that those teardrop approaches meant you'd be vectored in by ATC and wouldn't necessarily actually 'fly the shape'?
Good info, and yes I'm interested in more of these videos!
Absolutely fascinating. Please keep doing more like this
Very educational thanks Emanuel. Any info you deem interesting, good enough for me
Your videos are really informative ! Thanks 👍
Fabulous--yet again--spot on. Well done👍🏻
Very interesting. I was always curious about this. Thanks.
We have some interesting ones in the usa.. myhip, myknee, mytoe.. on the star approaches lol. Check out some of the star for koak and kdca. Those are some good ones.
Very interesting! Thank you very much!
This is a question I didnt know I wanted to know.
Thanks🙏
Good details!
Never knew about the last letter being the distance. Thanks for the tip. Question: On the first chart/example, if the Airbus auto calculates the turning waypoint outbound onto the DME arc, why doesn't it do it for the turn inbound? Why does it bother to show D306N on the ND instead of just C612Y (I think that's what it says, but it's hard to read)? And what is that C612Y point anyway? I looked up the chart on ChartFox, and it doesn't even exist on that. In fact, ChartFox naming looks completely different. They don't show D123X type names at all. They just show "14.0 NM PPR" instead of D336N, and it's not even marked as a waypoint, just a dotted line to the arc.
Yes please, the more the merrier 😁
Really cool to know this! Thanks for the video. What if the waypoint is more than 26NM away from the previous one? 😅 What letter gets assigned?
Very interesting video. Thanks Emi.
Emi, a few days ago I asked you about the flight director pitch-up tendency for the PMDG B738. You did explain it to me, but made me more confused than ever.
After rotation, the flight director commands a pitch-up of more than 20 degrees for a few seconds and then settle down.
Sometimes I want to follow it instinctively and then remember to maintain 15 degrees pitch up until the flight director settle down.
I did a search on your channel about this but could not find any tutorials regarding take-oof rotation and maintaining the correct procedure to fly the B738 correctly.
When do you arm LNAV and VNAV, etc?
Many times I arm the LNAV and VNAV buttons on the ground which I guess is incorrect.
I also like to use the HUD after rotation to fly the plane manually.
I know it's a mouthful but I'll appreciate it very much if you can do a tutorial for the correct take-off procedures until flaps up for the PMDG B738.
heyy emanuel thanks again for the amazing vid, but i wonder what the best sensitivity settings are for the TCA airbus captain pack (joystick sensitivity) on the inibuilds a320neo because i want o the most accurate feeling on my joystick while flying the ini builds a320neo!
Hey could you show how to do manual edits or create an go around route which is marked in blue in the mcdu? Because often the predone go around route is not 100% the same as in the approach chart given.
Hello could you show how to put manual edits etc to the go around route which is marked in blue in the mcdu?
Hi capt! Great Video as always. Question: Is it possible to enter a Arc from a VOR manually or is it only possible when its already in the Star/Sid?
Hi, it's not possible to enter that manually, it has to come from the database.
@@A330Driver Thanks for the answer. Guess the fix page would be the only option then.