Me too. The trio "Thrall, Cairne & Vol'jin" was one of the main reason I like so much Warcraft 3's Horde. The three "brothers" that created the "heroic savages" incarnation of the new Horde.
i hope thrall is going to return as the warchief sylvanas doesnt fit at all she basically only joined the horde for her own benefit she does not share anything with the rest of the original horde i absolutely hate this horde 3.0
Rest in peace Cairne. even though I am an Alliance player I always respected you and the bloodhoof tauren. You represented everything the "true" Horde stood for. May the Earthmother watch over you. Ish-ne-alo por-ah!
@@codyharrison5275 Thrall can be the best leader and Cairne can be the most badass at the same time. It’s not that he’s better than Thrall. Thrall’s story is probably the best I know of the lore. But Cairne is just the man.
@@mraz5004 Not just that. Tauren, in their size, are strong but I feel like many are slow. Cairne was, for the most part, an exception. Orcs are strong and a little more agile, but in terms of brute strength, yeah Tauren would take that trophy.
More likely he would have made Varrok warchief, but he wasn't an option because he went in to self imposed exile after his son's death. But it's not like there weren't other respected orc veterans who could have been warchief. Eitrigg for one was Lieutenant to both Doomhammer and Blackhand, as well as a close advisor to Thrall.
What do you think? When Warcraft 3 reforged comes releases, will minor side-characters like Baine and Vol'Jin get unique models that connects them to WoW?
@@LordHypnos4 They don't really import the models of WoW so the chances of them looking exactly alike isn't that high. What I want is that Baine doesn't have the generic Tauren-warrior model and Vol'Jin isn't just a normal Witch-doktor (The same maybe with Shandris, Naisha and Kel'thuzard who also had normal models). We already know that the developement-team is creating the options to play the hero-classes as male or female, so we can really hope. Another nice addition the developers could make is making the different colours a bit more different. For example bright-blue human troops have the Loarderon tabard, dark-blue are from Gilneas and violet from Dalaran. Same with the orcis troops being from different clans or green night elven troops looking like wardens.
Cairne was the reason I rolled a Tauren Shaman during classic. I loved him in WC3 and his mindset. And I always hoped I could actually carry a totem on the back. Well, at least now it will be possible with the heritage armor. His death really hit me hard, I was rather pissed. He also would have made a good warchief for the horde, I think... if he wasn't betrayed. And I hope at some point Baine will really step up in fathers boots someday. Rather large boots, for sure.
Cairne. what a great character honestly. i remember in vanilla the first time I saw Cairne i was so happy and star struck. Rest in peace old bull. the last of the horde's honor.
By far one of the best characters in the Warcraft universe. Always following his own believes, never hesitating and with all that wisdom and expirience knew, when to take up arms and fight for the wellbeing of the whole horde. Too bad we didnt have more storys with him in WoW and too bad Baine is still to insecure, hesitates to much and doesnt have the decisivness to oppose someone before trying all of the "peaceful" options. I would love to see him finally getting into a more reasonable aggressive state and finally kicking some ass with any kind of new powers(using both of his totems on the back or becoming something between a ench shaman,druid and a monk)
Cairne was always my favorite horde leader, so honorable, wise, a loving father and a badass warrior capable of beating the shit out of one of the strongest orc even in his elder years (Cairne is already old by the time of WC3 as he often complained)
there was no one else that could lead the horde! says thrall...meanwhile Sarlfang....Etrigg...Carine?....pretty sure Broxxagar was still alive at this time i think he was thrown back in time shortly around cata? Vol'jin? ah literally anyone haha.
Well, news of Broxx's death came to Thrall when he still was the Warchief, so he is not a valid candidate. For some reason, Thrall was convinced that the Horde needed a young orc as the warchief, and Garrosh apparently fit the bill with Dranosh's death in the Northrend campaign.
CAIRNE BLOODHOOF SHOULD HAVE BEEN WARCHIEF, NOT GARROSH!!! If he was Warcheif, Siege of Orgrimmar would never have happened, WOD would not happen, Voljin would not die, Slyvanas would not be Warchief, and Teldrassil would not burn!!!
Don't forget, another thing that would not have gone to crap was Jaina Proudmoore. Him dropping a bomb on her city turned her from the reasonable alliance leader into the crazy one that wants war.
The origin of cows is interesting. Lol If cairne hadn’t died from the poison I wonder how different some things would’ve been? Would he have been against sylvanas or have been like counselor to her if he felt she was going to bad extreme lengths for the horde like now?
I like to think that if him AND saurfang was there they would put her in here place way before she became this strong...although we do not know when did that happen exactly
Cairne Bloodhoof isn't the most popular character in the Warcraft lore, but he is still my favorite character. It's because of him and his personality that my first character (since 2006) in WoW was a Tauren.
"Ishne'alo porah!" has always been one of my favorite quotes. Tauren shammy has always been my main, and Cairne has always been one of my favorite characters, especially as far as leaders. It took my awhile but ive finally warmed up to Baine, but man, do I miss just hanging outside his hut, listening to him talk, and defending against ally raids going for the achievement back when that actually was a thing >____>
I also hope that we'll see again tanukas (a race that Blizzard seems to have forgotten). The "Blood Oath of the Horde" quest, and the whole plot to introduce them into the Horde. But after Wrath we haven't seen any Tanuka NPC again. They could've even made a connection between tanuka and dark shamans (since tanukas force the land and the elements to yield to their will), and even have some tanuka in Garrosh's Horde in MoP (since it was Garrosh who re-discovered them, it'd have sense if some tanuka were more loyal to him that to the rest of the Horde).
@@gaurok Well there was a Taunka who was part of the Earthen Ring. He played a part in the Vashj'ir leveling experience (His name was Chaosrender or something), but yeah as far as the Horde goes we haven't really seen them contribute. They would be a great candidate for an allied race, and maybe this could also introduce characters like Trag Highmountain back into the story, since he has a pretty deep connection with the Taunka.
Just 1 NPC in a neutral faction. What about all those Tanuka who swore a freakin' blood oath? And I agree that Trag Highmountain should return. Also, he should've been alongside (or in place of) Crok Scourgebane in ICC (Seeing a thing is way better than an Ask CDev with "he fought offscreen on another front of the Citadel"), and he should've been a Death Knight order hall champion.
11:46 to 13:02 .......people have often gotten angry at me for hating on Go'el so much, and whenever they start with their obvious faint praise, I merely tell them this: I don't hate Go'el because he has become significantly weaker as the expansion go on, I don't hate Go'el because he is the first leader of the Horde, I don't hate Go'el for cheating in the final fight against Garrosh, and I most certainly don't hate Go'el for being a pacifist. I hate Go'el because almost every problem that has been STARTED by the Horde could have been avoided if he wasn't so hell bent on giving a situation the benefit of the doubt without using his amazing judgment he had when he was first forming the Horde. I completely blame the series of events that led to Cairne's death by about 90% squarely on Go'el's shoulders. Cairne's speech from the above time tags was quite possibly one of the most well thought out and structured speeches regarding the qualifications of another individual that I have ever heard. He presented proof and past experience from Grom's actions, coupled with the temperament and actions of Garrosh himself to prove his point, it was not a personal attack or a sign of ill intent, it was the words of a wise leader who KNEW the measure of a true leader. Cairne even mentions that without Go'el by his side, Garrosh would ultimately become a loose cannon, that he needed someone to be by his side to stir him in the right direction, Cairne KNEW that Garrosh only TRULY listened to Go'el. And what does Go'el do, brush it off as a blood brother merely being distrustful of "young" blood, and believing in the power of "potential" that Garrosh had not really shown, and yes I'm talking about Garrosh's constant fuckery every time he saw Varian(granted Varian was a hot head too, but Garrosh never helped the situation). And let's not forget the disastrous situation that is Sylvannas's current leadership of the Horde, first off, If I was Go'el, the MOMENT I heard that she was trying to imprison A FUCKING VALKYRIE for her own purposes, I would immediately take steps to either overthrow her, or try to reason with her. Once again, he is nowhere to be seen on that situation. And now we have the current state of the war, I know that there have been rumors of him returning to the story and taking a role against Sylvannas, but my question is, WHY HAS IT TAKEN SO FUCKING LONG, GO'EL IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE WORLD SHAMAN, am I seriously supposed to believe that he has so little of a voice and power in the Horde that he has to hide and bide his time until he can do something about the shit situation Azeroth is in. Can't he just challenge that Forsaken bitch to Mak'gora and get it over with, pretty fucking sure the Horde's precious honor cannot allow a Warchief to refuse a challenge. Go'el was once a character I held in high regards, but the way his choices have been going, I have just lost all pity for him, the only way I will ever respect him again is if he is standing above Sylvannas's truly dead corpse and makes Saurfang Warchief, AND FUCKING STAYS AS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE HORDE to avoid any other fucking catastrophes from shitty leadership.
@@filipendris3641 Garrosh did not know his weapon was poisoned, as far as both parties knew the fight was fair. Sylvannas knew she had lost the horde the moment she made her "nothing" comment, she used that magic blast to kill Surfang because the result of the Mak'gorah was pointless by that point. Both of your examples are mute at best.
@@pitsburg91 not rly? If you get unfair advantage that you do not know about it does not make your victory fair thats for cairne. And the second one although you are right it still was unfairly fought mak gora no matter the resons
I love Cairne. Tauren forever! OK...Draenei forever (since I played way more of my alliance shaman than my Horde one)...but Cairne and the Tauren are just such a fantastic race.
The first druid was a Tauren First Shamman in Azorath was a Tauren Master race no doubt , feel in love with them sonce WC3 and i have all Tauren classes as Tanks
To everyone who questions why the Tauren are still with the Horde, this is why. The Horde basically saved the Tauren from extinction, gave them a permanent home, and a chance at a better future. Such deeds can never be forgotten, and such bonds don't break so easily. It's also worth noting that Thrall originally just meant Garrosh's appointment as Warchief to be temporary, but it was made permanent due to the Cataclysm and him being needed. Though it's still stupid he let Garrosh stay as Warchief, his choice is more logical in this context, he meant it to be a learning experience.
@@MrVlad12340 That was more Garrosh's fault than the Horde's, and he probably knew she was gonna get kicked out regardless of the Horde's involvement anyway.
Would Medivh be "The Lord of Ravens".. or maybe someone we havent met yet? Medivh is A:A powerful figure who has some significance B:Is corruptible C:He's been gone a long time D:He's literally often known to turn into ravens(and again, has significant power) E:He isn't confirmed Dead(and most characters who disappear re-appear if they are Significant and not confirmed dead) This is not likely, but it'd fit how his character's been a thing in ALL the warcrafts.
Nobbel87 has Hearthstone Lore and recently put up Lore. What is the difference? Is he retelling the story of Cairne or am I overthinking it? Now that I got that out of the way: THIS... This is why I have always played as a Tuaren since The Burning Crusade. They are the most noble and smartest members of the Horde.
Hey Nobbel, long time viewer, first time commenting. I apologize if you have answered this question in the past. Do you think the Blood Elves could use the sunwell to make a super elf much like Tyrande has done?
Maybe if you ask that Naruu corpse very nicely, he'll give the blood elves the power to kill his friends. In all seriousness, it seems to me, that the ones that could accomplish something like that would be Velenn or a Naruu. It seems similar to what is happening on Dranor in the orc allied race quest chain.
I have a good question, does the horde death knights gets commanded from the leader of the horde or the banshee queen, after all the undead is ruled by the lich king but the ones whom escapes the lich kings grasps would be a servant of the bashee queen, so who does command the undead death knights the horde leader or the banshee queen?
There is a few undead lore characters thats aint held by the lich kings grasps what about derak proudmoore he was raised by sylvannas but he doesn't follow her command after baine released him to jania
@@brettwallace7687 does bolvar like the horde at all, if not why hasnt he turn all the death knights against sylvannas and slay her. And what control does sylvannas have with the undead/DKs besides being their warchief
Why are all your phrases constructed like " Mr John, he ate an apple." and not "Mr John ate an apple." ? Is this to stay in "ye olde" spirit ? Does it sounds more authentic ? (Not native speaker here, just wondering.) Amazing work btw, I love to listen to your stories !
Garrosh was the War hero from Northend. Orc society love their war heroes and would have backed Garrosh with Thrall standing down. And it would have happened no matter what.
I blame Blizzard with their "The PLOT DEMANDS IT!!!!" mentality and short sighted "How can we make more money now?" instead of creating a foundation for a more profitable future. Thrall, a.k.a. Go'el, would have known better than to appoint Garrosh as Warchief based on Thrall's character development from Warcraft III and knowledge of Grom Hellscreams Character flaws and seeing the similarities within Garrosh realizing that Garrosh could develop into a worthy candidate for Warchief one day but wasn't ready yet. Blizzard really dropped the ball with the storyline after Warcraft III for seemingly just for the ability to dump a bunch of expansion content as quickly as possible instead of taking the time to make quality content that would of held true to the character arcs of the Warcraft III heroes and made more sense within the Warcraft universe.
Every lore video have to start before the sundering and war of the ancients... You can't have a single topic without hearing these same stories again and again...
I have never played WoW, but Thrall seems like he made his decision purely to enact MoP. Another example of characters doing stupid things just to create a plot
You should do a video about the mother’s/fathers of Warcraft for mothers/fathers day. In my own research, a lot of moms have been killed in WoW. Cairne could be in the top 10 of fathers in WoW. A list I made in no particular order Moms in WoW: 1. Katherine Proudmoore 2. Draka 3. Alexstrasza 4. Mia Greymane 5. Moira Bronzebeard 6. Vareesa Windrunner 7. Alleria Windrunner 8. Aggra 9. Aegwynn 10. Leyara Staghelm Honorable Mention: M.O.T.H.E.R Dads in WoW: 1. Varian Wrynn 2. Varok Saurfang 3. Cairne Bloodhoof 4. Genn Greymane 5. Turalyon 6. Rhonin 7. Daelin Proudmoore 8. Rastakhan 9. Durotan 10. Grommash Hellscream
Nobbel have you seen the new wowhead video of Ashvane? ruclips.net/video/UICXfSPmuJQ/видео.html This proves the following 1. Sylvanas was in effect working with Azshara (she was forming an "alliance" with Ashvane" who in turn collaborated with Azshara) unless Sylvanas anticipated that Ashvane would be used as cannon fodder by Azshara. 2. Sylvanas *MIGHT* (not sure) be working with an Old God!
Such a dumb decision by Thrall to appoint Garrosh as warchief, against all logic and advice by the other leaders, it was very out of character for him to not listen to Cairne. Furthermore, the warchief is supposed to be followed and trusted by all the leaders of the horde. Garrosh wasn't, and that alone should've been enough to disuade Thrall from choosing him.
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Man, I miss Cairne. He was one badass elder and leader of the Horde.
Me too. The trio "Thrall, Cairne & Vol'jin" was one of the main reason I like so much Warcraft 3's Horde. The three "brothers" that created the "heroic savages" incarnation of the new Horde.
Exactly, Cairne, Vol'jin and Thrall were THE HORDE!
Agreed, the old honorable and savage horde
i hope thrall is going to return as the warchief
sylvanas doesnt fit at all
she basically only joined the horde for her own benefit
she does not share anything with the rest of the original horde
i absolutely hate this horde 3.0
@@hallo-mt5tx I definitely prefer Vol'jin and Thrall's Hordes we really just need Thrall to come back.
Rest in peace Cairne. even though I am an Alliance player I always respected you and the bloodhoof tauren. You represented everything the "true" Horde stood for. May the Earthmother watch over you. Ish-ne-alo por-ah!
Thrall is the horde to me, not cairne.
Now this is an Alliance player I respect
@@codyharrison5275 Thrall can be the best leader and Cairne can be the most badass at the same time. It’s not that he’s better than Thrall. Thrall’s story is probably the best I know of the lore. But Cairne is just the man.
You people are so fucking cringe lmao
Y’all take this game so seriously.. holy
So Cairne was by far the strongest Fighter that existed, even in his old age. Taurens ftw
Yea tauren are strongest race i can say if we are talking about strenght, stronger than orcs but there are a lot more orcs than taurens..
@@mraz5004 Not just that. Tauren, in their size, are strong but I feel like many are slow. Cairne was, for the most part, an exception. Orcs are strong and a little more agile, but in terms of brute strength, yeah Tauren would take that trophy.
Man, I forgot how much of a dramatic speaker Cairne was. What a legend.
Take heart, young one. The Earth Mother is near.
I believe If Dranosh Saurfang had survived the war in Northrend, Thrall might have made him warchief instead of Garrosh.
More likely he would have made Varrok warchief, but he wasn't an option because he went in to self imposed exile after his son's death. But it's not like there weren't other respected orc veterans who could have been warchief. Eitrigg for one was Lieutenant to both Doomhammer and Blackhand, as well as a close advisor to Thrall.
What do you think? When Warcraft 3 reforged comes releases, will minor side-characters like Baine and Vol'Jin get unique models that connects them to WoW?
@The Rethan-Family Yes. If not, we riot!
If they look the same a decade or so before they do in wow I'd be mad.
@@LordHypnos4 They don't really import the models of WoW so the chances of them looking exactly alike isn't that high. What I want is that Baine doesn't have the generic Tauren-warrior model and Vol'Jin isn't just a normal Witch-doktor (The same maybe with Shandris, Naisha and Kel'thuzard who also had normal models). We already know that the developement-team is creating the options to play the hero-classes as male or female, so we can really hope.
Another nice addition the developers could make is making the different colours a bit more different. For example bright-blue human troops have the Loarderon tabard, dark-blue are from Gilneas and violet from Dalaran. Same with the orcis troops being from different clans or green night elven troops looking like wardens.
Warcraft 3 didnt even needed a reforge it was already good how it was b4 wow and the cinametics and game play was behond any other game at that time
Hopefully we will be able to revisit our old friend in classic Him and the entire tauren race are half the reason i play horde
Cairne: Please do not maje Garrosh warchief.
Thrall: I must, it can not be Peacecraft.
Cairne was the reason I rolled a Tauren Shaman during classic. I loved him in WC3 and his mindset.
And I always hoped I could actually carry a totem on the back. Well, at least now it will be possible with the heritage armor.
His death really hit me hard, I was rather pissed.
He also would have made a good warchief for the horde, I think... if he wasn't betrayed.
And I hope at some point Baine will really step up in fathers boots someday. Rather large boots, for sure.
This is why i rolled a tauren i classic aswell
Cairne was a Tauren Warrior, but I get what you mean. I still think about his death to this day, and it still saddens me.
Cairne. what a great character honestly. i remember in vanilla the first time I saw Cairne i was so happy and star struck. Rest in peace old bull. the last of the horde's honor.
"Hello everyonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnne"
I don't know why I like that so much.
By far one of the best characters in the Warcraft universe. Always following his own believes, never hesitating and with all that wisdom and expirience knew, when to take up arms and fight for the wellbeing of the whole horde. Too bad we didnt have more storys with him in WoW and too bad Baine is still to insecure, hesitates to much and doesnt have the decisivness to oppose someone before trying all of the "peaceful" options. I would love to see him finally getting into a more reasonable aggressive state and finally kicking some ass with any kind of new powers(using both of his totems on the back or becoming something between a ench shaman,druid and a monk)
Cairne was always my favorite horde leader, so honorable, wise, a loving father and a badass warrior capable of beating the shit out of one of the strongest orc even in his elder years (Cairne is already old by the time of WC3 as he often complained)
Cairne was a real Tauren man. I feel that nowadays, they're too often treated as "Just a Horde Race" by blizzard, and are treated like pushovers
Rune Spear in place of Cairne's runespear... nicee
there was no one else that could lead the horde! says thrall...meanwhile Sarlfang....Etrigg...Carine?....pretty sure Broxxagar was still alive at this time i think he was thrown back in time shortly around cata? Vol'jin? ah literally anyone haha.
Well, news of Broxx's death came to Thrall when he still was the Warchief, so he is not a valid candidate. For some reason, Thrall was convinced that the Horde needed a young orc as the warchief, and Garrosh apparently fit the bill with Dranosh's death in the Northrend campaign.
@@WolframRUclips yea, because the plot demanded it XD sad times.
I think Thrall was initially against a non-Orc leading the Horde. And Saurfang and Etrigg were too old. Saurfang had just lost his son, too.
Ah Cairne. If only Green Jesus listened none of these would have happened
You couldn't get a pic of Cairne's weapon so you just use a rune spear from runescape, nice.
There's some art of it in Hearthstone, just fyi :D
A story-teller for the ages. Thank you so much.
I'm SO hype to get my Tauren Heritage Armor and to see Caine again while playing classic!
I wish they would just give you diferent face and horn options for tauren so you could either choose to he a Yaungol, Tonka, Highmountain or Tauren.
Why do that when they can make them rep grinds.....i mean...ALlied races?
R.I.P. C. Boy
Nice! Been waiting for a video like this.
Great to see you do Lore telling the old school Nobbel way 😉 Your PTR, streams are great but your lore telling this way is amazing 👏👏
CAIRNE BLOODHOOF SHOULD HAVE BEEN WARCHIEF, NOT GARROSH!!!
If he was Warcheif, Siege of Orgrimmar would never have happened, WOD would not happen, Voljin would not die, Slyvanas would not be Warchief, and Teldrassil would not burn!!!
Oh, Blizzard would have definitely found a way.
You underestimate them.
Thrall's logic was "they're so old so they might die"
BUT VAROK HAS NOW OUTLIVED GARROSH SO I MEAN.
@@valeclaw1697 but, they could drop dead at any moment. Do you a Warchief would cough and die on the spot?! Well do ya?!
@@andreware2039 They're all at risk of that every damn year or two at this rate
Don't forget, another thing that would not have gone to crap was Jaina Proudmoore. Him dropping a bomb on her city turned her from the reasonable alliance leader into the crazy one that wants war.
The origin of cows is interesting. Lol
If cairne hadn’t died from the poison I wonder how different some things would’ve been?
Would he have been against sylvanas or have been like counselor to her if he felt she was going to bad extreme lengths for the horde like now?
We all do 😔
He did challenge Garrosh for far less than Sylvanas ever did. So I think she wouldn't have even reached the point of burning Teldrassil.
I like to think that if him AND saurfang was there they would put her in here place way before she became this strong...although we do not know when did that happen exactly
The horde would be in glory if Cairne was made the Warchief.. That's exactly why they didn't let him.
Cairne Bloodhoof isn't the most popular character in the Warcraft lore, but he is still my favorite character. It's because of him and his personality that my first character (since 2006) in WoW was a Tauren.
True Horde Leader after all he lived for Honor and he was stabed in the back ... by a grimtotem
Imo he would've made a great warchief, He's kind but won't hesitate to put others in their place.
He was the only one to stand up to Garrosh, initially. If he were still alive, he wouldn't be taking shit from Sylvanas.
"Ishne'alo porah!" has always been one of my favorite quotes. Tauren shammy has always been my main, and Cairne has always been one of my favorite characters, especially as far as leaders. It took my awhile but ive finally warmed up to Baine, but man, do I miss just hanging outside his hut, listening to him talk, and defending against ally raids going for the achievement back when that actually was a thing >____>
Can you make story of Huln Highmountain too ? He was a great hero.
There's really not enough about him to make a vid. He existed as a figure in the highmountains lore rather then his own thing
SentientSockPuppet actually he does, just 99% of his story is told via Highmountain Valshara & the Scale of The Earthwarder artifact stories
@@cxfxcdude if that was all of his story, its sad. i hoped so much great story from someone gifted by cenarius, and able to banish deathwing.
@@ozancetin3931 Huln is also in the War of the Ancients novels but he is not a main character in them.
I hope that one day, all the taurens will unite and we'll be able to have yaungols into the Horde
I also hope that we'll see again tanukas (a race that Blizzard seems to have forgotten). The "Blood Oath of the Horde" quest, and the whole plot to introduce them into the Horde. But after Wrath we haven't seen any Tanuka NPC again.
They could've even made a connection between tanuka and dark shamans (since tanukas force the land and the elements to yield to their will), and even have some tanuka in Garrosh's Horde in MoP (since it was Garrosh who re-discovered them, it'd have sense if some tanuka were more loyal to him that to the rest of the Horde).
@@gaurok Well there was a Taunka who was part of the Earthen Ring. He played a part in the Vashj'ir leveling experience (His name was Chaosrender or something), but yeah as far as the Horde goes we haven't really seen them contribute. They would be a great candidate for an allied race, and maybe this could also introduce characters like Trag Highmountain back into the story, since he has a pretty deep connection with the Taunka.
Just 1 NPC in a neutral faction. What about all those Tanuka who swore a freakin' blood oath?
And I agree that Trag Highmountain should return. Also, he should've been alongside (or in place of) Crok Scourgebane in ICC (Seeing a thing is way better than an Ask CDev with "he fought offscreen on another front of the Citadel"), and he should've been a Death Knight order hall champion.
@@gaurok dude its Taunka...TAUNKAAA
Tauren lore! Thank you
11:46 to 13:02 .......people have often gotten angry at me for hating on Go'el so much, and whenever they start with their obvious faint praise, I merely tell them this:
I don't hate Go'el because he has become significantly weaker as the expansion go on, I don't hate Go'el because he is the first leader of the Horde, I don't hate Go'el for cheating in the final fight against Garrosh, and I most certainly don't hate Go'el for being a pacifist.
I hate Go'el because almost every problem that has been STARTED by the Horde could have been avoided if he wasn't so hell bent on giving a situation the benefit of the doubt without using his amazing judgment he had when he was first forming the Horde. I completely blame the series of events that led to Cairne's death by about 90% squarely on Go'el's shoulders. Cairne's speech from the above time tags was quite possibly one of the most well thought out and structured speeches regarding the qualifications of another individual that I have ever heard. He presented proof and past experience from Grom's actions, coupled with the temperament and actions of Garrosh himself to prove his point, it was not a personal attack or a sign of ill intent, it was the words of a wise leader who KNEW the measure of a true leader. Cairne even mentions that without Go'el by his side, Garrosh would ultimately become a loose cannon, that he needed someone to be by his side to stir him in the right direction, Cairne KNEW that Garrosh only TRULY listened to Go'el. And what does Go'el do, brush it off as a blood brother merely being distrustful of "young" blood, and believing in the power of "potential" that Garrosh had not really shown, and yes I'm talking about Garrosh's constant fuckery every time he saw Varian(granted Varian was a hot head too, but Garrosh never helped the situation).
And let's not forget the disastrous situation that is Sylvannas's current leadership of the Horde, first off, If I was Go'el, the MOMENT I heard that she was trying to imprison A FUCKING VALKYRIE for her own purposes, I would immediately take steps to either overthrow her, or try to reason with her. Once again, he is nowhere to be seen on that situation. And now we have the current state of the war, I know that there have been rumors of him returning to the story and taking a role against Sylvannas, but my question is, WHY HAS IT TAKEN SO FUCKING LONG, GO'EL IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE WORLD SHAMAN, am I seriously supposed to believe that he has so little of a voice and power in the Horde that he has to hide and bide his time until he can do something about the shit situation Azeroth is in. Can't he just challenge that Forsaken bitch to Mak'gora and get it over with, pretty fucking sure the Horde's precious honor cannot allow a Warchief to refuse a challenge. Go'el was once a character I held in high regards, but the way his choices have been going, I have just lost all pity for him, the only way I will ever respect him again is if he is standing above Sylvannas's truly dead corpse and makes Saurfang Warchief, AND FUCKING STAYS AS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE HORDE to avoid any other fucking catastrophes from shitty leadership.
Point of clarification, there has *never* been a fair mak'gorah, nor does it have a set of written rules. The rules change pretty much every time.
@@headlocks76 care to point out some examples of said unfair mak'gorah?
@@pitsburg91 well...one you have in this video - poison, second happend with saurfang :)
@@filipendris3641 Garrosh did not know his weapon was poisoned, as far as both parties knew the fight was fair. Sylvannas knew she had lost the horde the moment she made her "nothing" comment, she used that magic blast to kill Surfang because the result of the Mak'gorah was pointless by that point. Both of your examples are mute at best.
@@pitsburg91 not rly? If you get unfair advantage that you do not know about it does not make your victory fair thats for cairne. And the second one although you are right it still was unfairly fought mak gora no matter the resons
"young pup still wet behind the ears" Dude Cairne Garrosh is almost old enough to be Thrall's dad lol
Damn Cairne! So powerful yet old and wise and of course stubborn
I love Cairne. Tauren forever! OK...Draenei forever (since I played way more of my alliance shaman than my Horde one)...but Cairne and the Tauren are just such a fantastic race.
Let the Earth Mother sssmile upon you
Carine's voice in WC3 is so good.
Could we get an updated overview of Alleria and Turalyon please?
The first druid was a Tauren
First Shamman in Azorath was a Tauren
Master race no doubt , feel in love with them sonce WC3 and i have all Tauren classes as Tanks
Hail the Tauren!
Go Tauren or go home
"My village is in danger "
-Craine
To everyone who questions why the Tauren are still with the Horde, this is why. The Horde basically saved the Tauren from extinction, gave them a permanent home, and a chance at a better future. Such deeds can never be forgotten, and such bonds don't break so easily.
It's also worth noting that Thrall originally just meant Garrosh's appointment as Warchief to be temporary, but it was made permanent due to the Cataclysm and him being needed. Though it's still stupid he let Garrosh stay as Warchief, his choice is more logical in this context, he meant it to be a learning experience.
And then Horde told Baine and the rest of Bloodhoof tauren to go and die in the ditch when Magatha took over. So?
@@MrVlad12340 That was more Garrosh's fault than the Horde's, and he probably knew she was gonna get kicked out regardless of the Horde's involvement anyway.
Take heart young one!
Finally see a nobbel video launch and I'm busy. Why must life be so cruel ._.
This was more like a history of the entire Tauren race
8:30 Don't talk to me or my Baine ever again
If you ever write a book, please make an eBook as well because your voice is just so angelic
And here we have the only Bloodhoof that matters
I miss the Bro relationship between Thrall and Cairne :(
The cowboi's maybe my favorite race in all of wow.....
Would Medivh be "The Lord of Ravens".. or maybe someone we havent met yet? Medivh is A:A powerful figure who has some significance B:Is corruptible C:He's been gone a long time D:He's literally often known to turn into ravens(and again, has significant power) E:He isn't confirmed Dead(and most characters who disappear re-appear if they are Significant and not confirmed dead)
This is not likely, but it'd fit how his character's been a thing in ALL the warcrafts.
Would be cool if we knew more about the Tauren-centaur wars, and just how many of them were killed by the horse men.
Nobbel, kan je een keer lore doen over alle factions die bij de Horde/Alliance horen die niet playable zijn? loveeee
Garrosh you are not fit to rule the horde!!
Nobbel87 has Hearthstone Lore and recently put up Lore. What is the difference? Is he retelling the story of Cairne or am I overthinking it?
Now that I got that out of the way: THIS... This is why I have always played as a Tuaren since The Burning Crusade. They are the most noble and smartest members of the Horde.
Hey Nobbel, long time viewer, first time commenting. I apologize if you have answered this question in the past. Do you think the Blood Elves could use the sunwell to make a super elf much like Tyrande has done?
Maybe if you ask that Naruu corpse very nicely, he'll give the blood elves the power to kill his friends.
In all seriousness, it seems to me, that the ones that could accomplish something like that would be Velenn or a Naruu. It seems similar to what is happening on Dranor in the orc allied race quest chain.
The story of Cairne, and the war of the ancients, and the blood elves, and draenor
Pass the peacepipe.
Hey.. puff puff give, thats the rule
*WHAT! NO! MY VILLAGE IS IN DANGER!*
I have a good question, does the horde death knights gets commanded from the leader of the horde or the banshee queen, after all the undead is ruled by the lich king but the ones whom escapes the lich kings grasps would be a servant of the bashee queen, so who does command the undead death knights the horde leader or the banshee queen?
If the legion class quests/Easter eggs are anything to go by, it may be Bolvar.
There is a few undead lore characters thats aint held by the lich kings grasps what about derak proudmoore he was raised by sylvannas but he doesn't follow her command after baine released him to jania
@@bustercellillidari5325 Well, the Derek story isn't finished yet. So we will see about that.
@@brettwallace7687 does bolvar like the horde at all, if not why hasnt he turn all the death knights against sylvannas and slay her. And what control does sylvannas have with the undead/DKs besides being their warchief
I thought it was a hearthstone video 🌚
14:28 Cairne's stubbornness? It's not Cairne who's being stubborn my guy.
Why are all your phrases constructed like " Mr John, he ate an apple." and not "Mr John ate an apple." ? Is this to stay in "ye olde" spirit ? Does it sounds more authentic ? (Not native speaker here, just wondering.) Amazing work btw, I love to listen to your stories !
Cairn what an old bad ass.
Well, i guess ima watch fhis befor going to sleep and school
The Taunka should return as an Allied Race.
Could you do a Story for Deathwing or Garrosh after Carine and Baine's Story?
yay he did make one :D
Thought was over it but this video make me want to kill That Grimmtotem again.
Caine definetely won this fight here
stronger braver and more honorable fighter.
The Tauren high chieftain is a legend.
He’s a good card
Im still curious why he just didn't make cairne or vol jin warchief,or saurfang
Garrosh was the War hero from Northend. Orc society love their war heroes and would have backed Garrosh with Thrall standing down. And it would have happened no matter what.
Ah carine the lore hero who's death sealed the hordes fate as the alliance's whipping child
Really now? Who’s cities are constantly bombed/burned? Which faction had half of its faces as refugees? I give you a clue - it isnt Horde.
I blame Blizzard with their "The PLOT DEMANDS IT!!!!" mentality and short sighted "How can we make more money now?" instead of creating a foundation for a more profitable future. Thrall, a.k.a. Go'el, would have known better than to appoint Garrosh as Warchief based on Thrall's character development from Warcraft III and knowledge of Grom Hellscreams Character flaws and seeing the similarities within Garrosh realizing that Garrosh could develop into a worthy candidate for Warchief one day but wasn't ready yet.
Blizzard really dropped the ball with the storyline after Warcraft III for seemingly just for the ability to dump a bunch of expansion content as quickly as possible instead of taking the time to make quality content that would of held true to the character arcs of the Warcraft III heroes and made more sense within the Warcraft universe.
and the green boy regret his decision about garrosh
Does Cairne's voice remind anyone else of Bernie Sanders?
Ish’ne alo’porah
What about the Flesh-Shaping the Mogu put the Yaungol through?
Garrosh has always been bitch made. He took a real one from us RIP CAIRNE
Where's your sunwalker dezco lore??
Every lore video have to start before the sundering and war of the ancients... You can't have a single topic without hearing these same stories again and again...
it's almost like the majority of WoW lore is related to the war of the ancients or something
@@brann925 Super boring story to hear in every video.
@@Khasidon necessary for people new to the story, I think it's fair.
If I don't hear you saying Cairne is Sargeras or chaos god incarnate, I don't want to hear it.
I have never played WoW, but Thrall seems like he made his decision purely to enact MoP.
Another example of characters doing stupid things just to create a plot
You've never played wow? I'm going to have to recommend you try classic for a few months when it comes out.
4:08
Yiiess.
What happened to rexxar?Has he died?
You should do a video about the mother’s/fathers of Warcraft for mothers/fathers day. In my own research, a lot of moms have been killed in WoW. Cairne could be in the top 10 of fathers in WoW.
A list I made in no particular order
Moms in WoW:
1. Katherine Proudmoore
2. Draka
3. Alexstrasza
4. Mia Greymane
5. Moira Bronzebeard
6. Vareesa Windrunner
7. Alleria Windrunner
8. Aggra
9. Aegwynn
10. Leyara Staghelm
Honorable Mention: M.O.T.H.E.R
Dads in WoW:
1. Varian Wrynn
2. Varok Saurfang
3. Cairne Bloodhoof
4. Genn Greymane
5. Turalyon
6. Rhonin
7. Daelin Proudmoore
8. Rastakhan
9. Durotan
10. Grommash Hellscream
Tauren are just the best race man and all my characters are female tauren!
I love all my Tauren Ladies too! They're the best!
Ugh... This video made me dislike Thrall😂
first tauren video?
Would the tauren ever join the alliance? The horde is not what it once was =(
RIP Cairne. The moment Garrosh killed him was the moment I decided I don't like him.
Nobbel have you seen the new wowhead video of Ashvane? ruclips.net/video/UICXfSPmuJQ/видео.html This proves the following
1. Sylvanas was in effect working with Azshara (she was forming an "alliance" with Ashvane" who in turn collaborated with Azshara) unless Sylvanas anticipated that Ashvane would be used as cannon fodder by Azshara.
2. Sylvanas *MIGHT* (not sure) be working with an Old God!
Though Cairne died, he was not forgotten. Garrosh would always remember how delicious his steak dinner was that night.
Holy crap you were so wrong thrall in that discussion.
damn
Such a dumb decision by Thrall to appoint Garrosh as warchief, against all logic and advice by the other leaders, it was very out of character for him to not listen to Cairne. Furthermore, the warchief is supposed to be followed and trusted by all the leaders of the horde. Garrosh wasn't, and that alone should've been enough to disuade Thrall from choosing him.
Do baine