Assassin's Creed - Why Was Bayek FORGOTTEN?
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2018
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The Assassins revered Amunet, we know that much; as for Bayek (the founder of the Brotherhood), he seems to have been forgotten, but why? Hopefully this video will help shed light on this topic
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"we work in the dark, to serve the light" my man bayek is so good he became invisible to history
Most OP Assassin ever other than Alexios/Kassandra who weren’t really Assassins
@@itzkilas the assasins havent created that time, its created by bayek
@Milan Pupavac no they kill political aristocrats idiot
wisnu haryanto thats why he said “who werent really assasins”
@@avnerfigueroa5892 yeah they werent assasins, but in odyssey we know more about the bloodline, and what the isu really is
The best assassins are the ones you've never heard of.
That's actually right, but ezio is the best
Tide Pods Well thats to your opinion, i find edward the best because its not just about the story of edward that makes his story good, but the lore around the three kenways. Everybody thought edward had been killed by haythem, which is his son and templar you get to side with in rogue. Then connor killed haythem due to connor having hate and anger, also because haythem was a templar. But edwards story was the most i was interested in because it had a story where i was immersed and bought it on 360 just to play again, i think you cant compare ezio to any of the ac characters because ezio has 3 games. So you get three stories from the one assassin. But your opinion is false as i tend to think people can prefer black flag the most to ezio
Richard Jalakas Again, because he had three games, dont compare an assassin who had three games to ones that have one story, and people who prefer black flag play for the story, and your opinion is quite stupid and invalid because ALOT of people cried, story was mesmerising, the haters that hate him say its just a pirate game but he became a master assassin after end game and was killed by reginald birch
Tell you what Bayek the forefather of brotherhood is the best in the sense of social skills martial arts range combat close combat wisdom etc..
Richard Jalakas okay ima stop you right there. I loved the Ezio games but Edward’s story was the greatest in my opinion. It was just perfectly crafted
In the DLC, he tells early Brotherhood members not to revere him or call him “mentor” because they’re all equals. That attitude probably carried over across his life.
Because they are all "brothers" in the Brotherhood.
What a legend.
This one makes the most sense
aya was always the one with a god-complex. She's the one that seemed to forget about their son in favour of seeking glory. When bayek tells her that their quest should be about revenge, she says something along the lines of "Glory is what I desire". She then also went on to take a new name when they founded the brotherhood, a completely pointless gesture unless she was trying to elevate herself above the other assasins. Especially since she decided to name herself after a god
@@Freekymoho yes makes sense.
@@Freekymoho thats why when aya or amunt left him he didn't care but in dlc i think they got together
Finally revealed in Valhalla:
Bayek wanted the HIDDEN ONES to be Hidden, Amunet became well known to the brotherhood because of the Magas Codex, it documented her life as the hidden one's founder (including the assassination of Caesar and Cleopatra). Bayek wanted it destroyed because he believes that the Hidden Ones does not need praise for their good deeds.
Unfortunately the Codex has already circulated so it didn't got destroyed. Also, Bayek called himself "The Hidden One" as he didn't want to known
This information was already known before Valhalla
Yes
Came to this video to comment the very same thing. Good to see it got wrapped up.
Bayek was referenced in an early game as a hidden with aya because he only called him self that
Thx for explanation
Bayek had a good and pure heart. He did not desire anything anything even remotely close to fame. That explanation makes absolute sense.
Right all he was trying to do was avenge his son sooooo.....
@@terintoliver8225 He was helping his country, he's the Last Medjay for crying out loud.
@Andree Tungcab yeah hes probably not written as an assassin in history but as the "last medjay"
Also, when you consider Altair's time we see the near destruction of the ENTIRE ORDER. He literally saves it from the brink, re-establishes it, and had a far different mindset of glory and ego than Bayek. Naturally those that were like that (like Amunet) would be recalled, and the legend of Altair saving the order and refounding it would be the "starting point" for the order that followed in HIS mold and from his efforts.
because they don't plan him when they made older game... aya is
In my eyes, it's clear Bayek wanted to be forgotten by history, possibly because he felt the idea of the Brotherhood was more important than the memory of him. I think the main reason he is not remembered by the Brotherhood is cause it is heavily implied that the Brotherhood started in Rome, where Aya formed her branch, whereas Bayek remains in Egypt. Could it be that The Hidden Ones still exist, separate from the Assassin's and remain in the shadows, unknown to all involved in this already hidden war? I like to think so.
maybe they have even remained stronger than the current assassins
That’s the coolest theory I’ve ever herd
Well yeah remember syndicate there is someone on egypt master assassin named al mualim. Probably its just a coincidence. But Bayek is a legend bruv.
Holly shit, that's a very cool concept.
Fits your profile picture.
Bayek was literally the hidden one (best assassin )
A lot of people forget his name within the Brotherhood was Amun (The Hidden One, male form of Amunet). You can see this on the letter he wrote to Tahira in her Sinai branch.
@@MrVvulftrue. It’s all there. Just have to delv deeper
Bayek was so humble he kept his death as a forgotten path 😭 so pure. We need more assassins like him
If you had mor like him you wouldn't have games to play...cause we wouldn't know about them XD
We had and it was Altair. In the end, he sacrificed himself to hide the powerful artifact that makes both Assassins and Templars fight for it. It was a truly selfless act, as he knew that the apple was nothing but an object that makes human corrupt. He was kept hidden in a library, not even his son knew what happened to him, nor what became of his body. He lived and died an Assassin just like Bayek.
But for me, Bayek is the one who truly lived in the shadows. He is truly an unsung hero, a figure who chose the path of shadows to serve the light.
Red HawK13 there never was a mission... except avenge your son.
Red HawK13 what mission
Jacob Baker exactly
I think Bayek was just tired. He was a Medjay to no pharaoh at the end and his heart was shattered. He lost the people dearest to him and while he established the brother with Aya, I think he just wanted to fade into the Duat and walk with his son in peace. He was a broken man after his son was killed and wanted to dole justice where it was due and I imagine after he finished the ancient order off, he waited for the last person responsible to die. Himself.
Perfect. And i think his death did not happened long after the events of the game. Meanwhile aya has remained the sole "leader" in the brotherhood and took all the fame alone while doing many other accomplishments.
Yeah that’s true and caused him became a very great Assassin, And bayek stated on himself that he wasn’t the medjay anymore and just walking in the shadow
I think he started the Templar order would explain why they appeared at the same time he saw the chaos and believed order was required
I’m already tracer
" I think he just wanted to fade into the Duat and walk with his son in peace" ...... This cut me deep. I totally agree though. Been way behind just finished the game. Was really disappointed how Bayek & Aya's relationship ended. Bayek's character was one I really connected with.
if you're an assassin and you go down in history as a famous assassin, you weren't a good assassin
c_ez true
Tru cause assassin's are masters of sealth
So you're saying all the legendary assassins immortalized in stone under the Villa were bad assassins, cus people remember them and the mission that made them famous within the Brotherhood? WITHIN the Brotherhood. WITHIN. No one in the world knows these men and women were assassins, unless they are a member themselves.
c_ez in their defense, they were only popular among assassins.
They’re remembered because what they did directly influenced the history to an extend where it changed the history, such key point of history can’t be blurry
Bayek deserves a sequel... He's one of the best characters in the entire saga
True
Same as arno
@@glizzy5877 not only Arno but many AC protagonist need sequel. Connor's sequel may tie him with Arno and Shay where previous 2 chase Shay. Frye's sequel could explain rise of Brotherhood in British Colonies (ex- India). Bayek sequel may explain rise of Brotherhood in Middle-east. You may add many more.
@@glizzy5877 Arno=SIMP
Glozzy Gambino in my opinion Arno had amazing potential but unfortunately fell flat and is in my opinion one of the biggest let down of this saga
Bayek is literally the most legendary assassin who ever lived and he's forgotten like a piece of paper
He is not since his tomb was found by layla and the assassins they found out about him.
Plus in valhalla there is a letter from reda which is signed with the hidden one. I think bayek name is forgotten but he is remebered as the hidden one, the founding fsther of the brother and one of tge creaters of the creed
He wanted to be unknown. He didn't want fame or glory
Like a piece of papyrus, you mean 😉
Bayek: When you do something right, no one knows you’ve done anything at all.
He proves a good point
@@Vephiren he sure does
Because Ubisoft didn't think the milking of Assassin's Creed will go that far
the only plausible answer
True to that. Maybe bayek are really not part of the initial plan.
I love Ac origins but I agree with you.I would've preferred a storyline completely unrelated to assassin's creed and a different name.
I swear Ubisoft are the Templars and they know it
@@Dev-nr4dw odyssey
In the beginning of the game:
Bayek:RUN
his son:but im scared to go alone
Bayek:JUST GO
At the end of the game:
Some kid he rescued:im scared to go home alone
Bayek:ill come with u
Best thing i ever seen
Prettyboy Scotti wtf I don’t remember that. Where in the game was it?
Ubaid-ur Rehman the first memory with bayek’s son hunting then going back to a cliff with him then enemy’s came and he told him and at the end of the game when they talk abt the hidden ones and they saved some kid
Damn, i just ended the main campaign of Origins and i didnt noticed that detail.
Well, now I just enjoy more that ending
Ohh it finally makes sense now! When I finished the game and saw that cutscene, I thought the boy was someone important that Bayek was saving from The Order. I thought maybe it was someone featured in the AC games that take place after Origins. But after no results on Google I gave up. It makes so much sense if it's there to show us how much Bayek changed during his journey!
Tbf at the beginning they were being attacked and that's why he told him to run home.
The other child was simply scared of going home alone
Ezio and Bayek are the most interesting characters of all time in AC series
ezio was goated
Name Eh, I wouldn’t say Ezio was interesting but I guess he was cool. He was made a cliche about being this Chosen One B.S, Although we know nothing about him, I feel like Thomas for AC Unity, Arno from AC Unity and obviously Altair because they actually MADE MISTAKES, Where Ezio helped fix others.
@@dr.voiced4517 Ezio never made any cliché about being any chosen one, that was actually Desmond's role, at least until they killed him. Ezio was very chill and helped when it was needed. He was a very interesting character, we were able to see his life from the beginning until the end and how he chose to end his assassin's life was so good too.
i liked ezio and altair i havent played ac3 so i am thinking of playing it
HappySadSleepyMad Yes, which is why I get annoyed when someone calls Arno a cliche character. (Not you in specific, just some,) When Arno was probably the most realistic character out of all of the assassins but gets labeled as cliche, a simp or both. If you didn’t read my comment I also stated he was praised like he was “The Chosen One” which is a cliche, a charming assassin who’s also a badass that can take on Pope guards with just 3-4 other assassins. I would say revelations is interesting but not Brotherhood or Ac2.
This video makes me to feel that Bayek himself Deserve a Sequel
if the upcoming dlc doesn't go too far into it, we may actually get a sequel, or maybe a new character within the same era as Bayek.
I heard there will back in "Empire"
Raven John Borja nah, empire was the unity-like gameplay... when they made it into a(n) rpg, the name was changed
Wait a second Bayak isn’t getting a sequel until my boy Edward is
+Justin Schreiber i'm agree!! make black flag great again XD
The reason why Altair was in middle.
Altair became youngest master assassin. The brotherhood of assassin was corrupted. It was slowly being destroyed. Altair saw this. He destroyed the corrupted brotherhood and recreated it. Today's assassin's are because of his cause.
Jay. But who created the assassins brotherhood? Who did it start from? Bayek. So bayek ultimately deserves the most respect
@@shafay3262 He created THE Brotherhood with the very foundation of the Creed every Assassin after him followed from now on.
Andree Tungcab. So Bayek does deserve the most respect but no everyone bum licks ezio. And Bayek might of not been the first assassin but he formed the first creed that we know of today. And before they called themselves the hidden ones but then later they evolved to the assassins
@@shafay3262 It's probably Bayek doesn't want any recognition like everyone says here. Yes, he deserves the respect, but doesn't want people singing his praises for it. He did create the Creed the Assassins follow now, but after that it was corrupted, thus Altair saved it and changed it a little bit for the better. Hence, in Masyaf the Assassins were reborn. Hell, I bet in Altair's library, one of the secrets he kept was Bayek's identity. A little bit more proof is that he sent his last son to return most of the books of the library TO ALEXANDRIA. Had there been a Bayek trilogy exploring this theory, it would have been a great tie in.
Andree Tungcab holy crap props to you, that sounds right
Honestly.. bayek was one of my favorite characters in the entire series. The way he was written and his voice actor really did him justice. I really hope they expand on him like they did with ezio.
The theory that Bayek wanted to be forgotten is reinforced in Valhalla when Reda shows Eivor a letter from Bayek to Aya stating that he wished for the true identities of the hidden ones to never be revealed.
this video is a reason as to why we are desperate for a sequel with Bayek
BardiaOzzie though who knows, the hidden ones might clear things up, it probably won't but it's not released yet. It might get rid of the need for a sequel, Bayek could die.
James Love Bayek won't die if we're playing as him. makes no sense
BardiaOzzie please say you're joking? Of course he could die at the end of the story, do you even get what assassins creed is about? It's memories. It's the exact same as Black Flag, at the end of it Edward Kenway leaves for London, he never returns to the Caribbean, yet we continue to play as him in the West Indies, because we are playing the memories of him before he left for London. So if Bayek dies at the end of the story of course we could keep playing as him, we'd just be playing in the memories of him alive.
BardiaOzzie Another example, brotherhood begins where AC2 ends, correct. But, if you continue to play AC2 after finishing the story Ezio will be doing things he didn't actually do, since we know from brotherhood that as soon as Ezio left Rodrigo Borgia alive he left Rome straight away and then all the other stuff happened. So, if you kept playing AC2 after the story it doesn't make sense because we know that as soon as AC2 ended brotherhood took place, it would be the same. Even revelations, at the end of the game Ezio was banished from Constantinople, yet we can continue playing in Istanbul, despite Ezio not doing that. So, if bayek dies we could still play as him, he just didn't do it in the story, the same way Ezio left Istanbul straight away etc.
BardiaOzzie because we'd just be playing the memories where bayek was alive, you do realise in origins we aren't actually playing as bayek? We are playing as Layla, who's just reliving Bayeks memories. When at the time of origins bayek is already dead, Layla can still access his memories because of the animus, in assassins creed it makes perfect sense that you can play as someone after they die. Literally every single AC game we play as someone who is already dead, since we are just reliving memories.
great video man, I completely agree that Bayek is the type of man who does not desire any sort of notoriety. Only time will tell.
Tynamite definitely. Even though he's technically the Creator he seems like the last one that would choose that life. Which brings me to notoriety. He seemed like the one that we would bleed the word hidden. He seems selfless...
Tynamite What is the music called from the beginning of the video
No, it was because he was such a good assassin that he had no notoriety #bribing the town speakers😎
He is not mentioned in other AC games because obviously the devs did not invent hil back then... how nerdy can you get 🤦🏻♂️
Tynamite he wanted to be a family man and live in the land he grew up in but he couldn’t
Cause he wasn't planned for the future lmao
Just like Arthur wasn't heard of in red dead redemption 1
Problem is after playing RDR2 and going back to RDR1 everything makes absolute fucking sense.
The Dude that’s what makes a sequel/pre-sequel a good one
That still irks me. John marston obviously is THE guy in the first one. In he second one, not only is me a all out side character, how he is portrayed is as an annoyance. At least from what I have played, I have only got about 20 hours in on RD2. It honestly was pretty boring, so I took a break for a while. I do not like how marston has been portrayed so far though. How can the hero of game 1, be made fun of and shown as weak and an annoyance in the second one??
@@traviss9583 Lmfao, you've played only 20 hours of it and already judging it like a dumbass. You think John is "weak" in RDR2? Try finishing the entire game and then tell me how "weak" John is. Also it's called character development, John is weak at the beginning on purpose, Rockstar doesn't like making fairytales, they try to make characters that are real and relatable, not perfect. By portraying John as weak at the beginning they are showing that John wasn't always as good as we see him in RDR1, he had to build himself up. Believe it or not, your current self is much more wiser than your 10 year old self, it's the same thing with John. Many people have done shit in their preteen years that they cringe over to this day, it's the same thing with John. It's character development my friend, nobody is supposed to be perfect, if you want "perfect" characters, go watch a disney movie or some shit.
@@Kaledrone because character adaptation? He was kind of a piece of shit in RDR2 then became the bad ass we know in RDR1
I love Bayek's character. I hope he makes a return, whether it's a sequel or even just an appearance in a DLC for another game some day
Bayek...father of the brotherhood. 🙂 Really hope he gets a sequel.
Probably the mediterran trilogy ended after assassin's creed kingdom
Manuel Martinez really would rather have a bayek sequel than odyssey. Rather than split focus on two main characters it’s clear ubisofts strong point is one main character at a time rather than two.
Hes the all father.
@@sikeyouthought3887 kassandra us a great character imo
darin coker I’m not saying she isn’t I like her too but she feels lifeless at times because we don’t explore something that feels important to her. Bayek has better character development because it’s just him for 99% of the game. Even though we only have one scene showing why he wants revenge it’s still a strong feeling because throughout the game he has hallucinations of his son and it makes you feel something. In odyssey it falls short because the game sets it up as “find your family” and then hides that behind numerous quests that make what is supposed to be an important objective ultimately forgettable save for the opening and ending missions. If they do a sequel of odyssey I hope they focus on kassandra more than Alexios but for now I would rather have a bayek sequel being as how I feel that bayek has better character development and sequel potential.
At the end of the curse of the pharoas, bayek tells the redhead to not spread his story. That could contribute to why no one knows him. Also, that redhead later dies in a snake pit. They don't give you time of when this happened. But could mean that he died too soon resulting in no rumours of bayek
Doesn’t Bayek become basically a superstar after the Arena fight in Krokodilopolis?
@@zooms6316 Well, yeah. But even then, they recognize him as a Medjay, nor a Hidden One or the man who founded them.
bayek only said to the redhead not to tell his name in the public and the redhead didnt die. jez did u played the dlc?
did he really die? does it tell you or no? because i played the dlc last year and still didnt found him
@@five2019 I know I'm a year later but yes he for sure dies very quickly, you can find him in a snake pit at the south eastern part of the DLC map after the events complete, he's clearly been bitten by the snakes, fuck those things btw.
My theory has always been that Aya founded the brotherhood that led to the European brotherhoods (ezio, kenways and Arno) while Bayek stayed in Africa and the middle East eventually leading to Altair's brotherhood, which is why they require the sacrifice of a finger and the Europeans don't. It might be a token of respect to the founder. (Also to some extent the Spanish brotherhood as seen in the movie, yuck, also required the sacrifice of a finger, Spain also has history with Muslim conquest and the Bayek branch could have gone there that way. This is just my head canon tho
Europens also respected the y=tradition of ring finger until DaVinci made the modification!
The idea of two branches could make sense considering Bayek's went from Egypt to Jerusalem, to India, to China, to Japan and Anya's went from Rome to England & France to America. What branch went to Russia is everybody's guess.
@@solracstormhunter3023 Bruh, Altani killed Alexander the great in Egypt only, 300 years ago from Bayek!!!
Honestly I love the idea of Bayek being forgotten even though its most likely a retcon. He suffered a very painful life. He lost his son, he had to split up with his wife, and had experienced so many horrible events. He was a humble man that wanted to fade away and be lost to history.
He lost his best friend too and had to kill that young woman from his childhood.
Shit hit fan so much that no proud and prestige was accepted.
@@leandrocastro2092 and all these events didn't change his as a person at all!
It's not a retcon at all tho? Since this series started no founder is implied to be known. Probably as a deliberate choice.
I think it definitely fits Bayek that he wanted to be forgotten, to live on his own without that recognition. He lost his son, and he even says at some point talking to reda, that he doesn’t find joy in his “marriage to darkness”. So I think he just wanted to let history forget him
Keenan Verpoten or he founded the Templar order
That's the best explanation
Yeah , I'd like this one to be the most likely , as it kind of fits with his attitude when meeting others of the order after its founded. Assassin - "Wow it's Bayek!!" / Bayek - "I'm just another assassin like you". He might not want the order to hold one man as 'Almighty' and have the it start from nowhere/always been here type thing. The Creed itself is more important than one man.
I support this theory
BlackHippy1220 Templar order is The Order that you fight in Origins...
I guess Bayek may became the God.
Like all the statues unlocks an hidden vault underground where Bayek proudly stands with legendary last piece of eden in this hand next to the gods statue!!
One of mirage is a burning bush..
Assassin Gamer is a good
no
Tristan Billington it's a joke, lol
Fuck yeah
he just that good of an assassin that not even the assassin's know about him
OP
@@itzkilas what do you mean by ON?
@@itzkilas or OP in original
Bayek will forever be remembered as the first leader of ancient crocodile hunter order.
DudeBeLike Crikey!
i always loved how Bayek said the word "Crocodile"
"nile, crococile...ahhhh hes rubbing off on me."
I'm guessing Bayek simply wished to be forgotten and stick close to his creed of being "hidden" until the end. Despite all that he has accomplished, he always see himself as a failed father and a vengeance-thirsty man which he feels isn't something to be proud of or memorialized. Also, having a statue of himself will make him no better than those power hungry and egotistic templars that he killed.
Jinhunter Slay Pure The Hidden One, And Made No Mistakes 🔥, Lord Of The Duat Await Him.
Templars didn't exist yet back then it was just greedy men but maybe he created the templars or accidentally did so because he hated being a murderer so he craved peace in any form
Mathew Culver I mean the Cult of Kosmos and the Order of the Ancients were precursors to the Templar’s. The Templar’s were the same people as the order of the ancients and cult of kosmos they just used the Templar order as a cover.
@@Fenris2 Did you really play the game and pay attention to the story though? You keep saying like that in most of the comment section. Bayek was never created Templar Order. It was created by Cult of Kosmos and the Order of the Ancient. Both of them are proto-organization of Templar Order. Bayek founded The Hidden One which later we known as Assassins Brotherhood.
@@Fenris2 they did they just weren't called templars
He wasnt forgotten, in the present day if you talk to William Miles when he's infront of Bayek's sarcophagus he says "Bayek we've been looking for him for so long and you found him"
Maybe they were looking for the Brotherhood's founder, not specifically Bayek?
@@timklebel879 Bayek is the founder
@@wi77iama773n i know, key word "specifically"
wich game is that, origins aswell? if so, i'm missing alot in the game XD
@@dreaming4ffr you just gotta progress in the story.
I’m glad they kept Darius assassinating xerxes as canon as you actually see it in legacy of the first blade in Odyssey
It’s funny to think that when Aya gave Bayek the hidden blade, she said it goes under your arm, even though Darius wore it on top like Eivor. That means the brotherhood wore it wrong and only Darius and Eivor were right. It also makes more sense, Bayek wouldn’t have lost his finger, starting the whole finger sacrifice, if he wore it on top.
let's...let's jus keep it at da bottom💀✋🏾.
It wouldn’t be a “hidden” blade then. Plus if the blade was above people would see it and know you’re an assassin.
@@Brevskilong sleeves😅
Bayek losing his finger has nothing to do with wearing it on the bottom. It became ritualistic to ensure the commitment of the one wearing the blade, but this was "fixed" in the reforms and Assassins stopped cutting their fingers off.
Bayek deserve a statue
Bayek is a true hidden 1.
World Hide and Seek Champion : Bayek of Siwa
@Adam Wagner in our Gamestop here in Germany you can buy the Statue and the Eden Apple seperat an i think you can buy them without the collectors edition on the net. here a link to the original ubi store store.ubi.com/de/assassin-s-creed--origins--bayek/592598336b54a4ae358b4567.html
dude, next time use google and then comment please-
no not Adam Wagner... he means the statue in the collectors edition ... and i know that the first post mean this ,so i have extra write an @ and the name in front of it so nobody think i mean the first post ... but there is everytime someone ... :D sorry i dont mean it personal ...
dark killer bayek deserves a sequel
he deserves a day off.
Just hope a bayek gets another game and they don't shove him in a comic. Fuck that.
Sean Dowling yesss and that they don’t jus wrap his story up in this dlc but rather another game or trilogy... I like the idea of the dlc tho.... getting the creation and beginning of creed out of the way so the next game we can have full fledged Assassins on our ranks
Bayek's is is one of my favourite AC protagonists. I hope he does get a sequel. I think the games should stick with him for like 2 ir 3 games instead of jumping around on different characters as they have done since AC revelations.
They're doing an anime... and it's based on... guess what? Bayek.
Md Shariful Islam 1604064 that's a fan made one.
Sean Dowling, sure? I mean any source proving it's fake? (Even I don't know and just wanna confirm.)
Bayek started it all but Aya became famous for the assassination of Cleopatra. Aya stood in the light & became the face of the assassins while Bayek worked in the shadows, I presume it went something like that?
Aya wants fame.
Bayek wants to hide aka true assassins
Or bayek became the first Templar changed his name because he said I will make a new creed before throwing his sons last momento I away
Was he was the yin to her yang or viceversa
Mathew Culver smd
@@Fenris2 wtf?
His name may have been lost and forgotten to time but the Assassins still remembered him by severing their ring fingers both as tradition and to show their dedication to the creed for many decades after his death.
The Assassin movie is based in the same time-line as Origins. The severing of the finger is in tradition and respect to Bayek. I love the lore
Williams Miles (Mentor of 21st century Assassins Worldwide) mentioned saying they've been looking for his tomb for centuries back in AC Origins game. He sounded very appreciated!
Bryce Farmer Yet he didn't know who was he exactly, just a founder of the brotherhood.
don't you guys realise, he MUST have a statue somewhere BECAUSE the assassins 'animal' was the eagle, and bayek created the logo, the 'eagle vision'
it dosent actually explain the eaglel vision magic thoe lol
But Senu is more better than any assassins and their eagle visions
Because Senu really was an eagle
@@soupmayor-themayorofsoup that's the best part in Origins you have a pet Hawk ...btw Senu isn't an eagle
He dropped his medjay badge in the sand in the last cutscene, forming the Eagle logo. He left but Aya was there too, it is likely she used it for her future operations
The best Assassin is the one you'll never know.
In AC Valhalla, after collecting all the pages of the Magus Codex, you get a chance to read a letter from Bayek to Aya. In that letter, Byek asks Aya to find and destroy the codex pages, as he wanted to keep in secret everything and thought that written codex can reveal the hidden ones and make them vulnerable. Also, the letter proves that Bayek actually wanted to be forgotten, he saw no need to be remembered and honored. So the thoughts of the author of the video were right even 2 years ago.
I was going to comment this!
Bayek- the first person to be known as an assassin based on our knowledge, simply did not want to cast the light on his work. I’m sure he wanted his work to remain in the shadows. He wanted to avoid assassinating kings and queens because he probably knew it would cause rememberence. This is just a theory of course :-) a good act to start off the hidden ones.
actually Darius as the first Assassin, I have researched it and noted it.
First “Assassin” - Darius. Assassinated King Xerxes I of Persia (465 BCE), In the now modern-day Iran
King Xerxes I of Persia (519-465 BCE) also known as Xerxes the Great, son of Darius I. proto-Templar
Darius I (550 BCE - October 486 BCE) known as Darius the Great; proto-Templars
• During the 5th century BCE, the precursors to the Templars supported the reign and conquests of the Achaemeind kings Darius I and his son Xerxes I. Opposing the Persian kings’ tyranny over the people, Darius personally assassinated King Xerxes I with the Hidden Blade in August 465 BCE.
As first Assassin he might of meant of the order of Assassins as Darius was an individual and working alone. But yeah Darius was the first assassin and I really want a game where I play as him.
Dazzie there's a saying, if people know you as a hidden assassin, then you aren't a good hidden assassin.
ORIGINAL BY Gregory Aguon Edit by Revilo678
EDITED VERSION
Bayek- the first person to be known as an assassin based on our knowledge, simply did not want to cast the light on his work. I’m sure he wanted his work to remain in the shadows. He wanted to avoid assassinating kings and queens because he probably knew it would cause rememberence. But that is a theory a game theory.
Bayek's statue is underneath the statues of the assassins below the villa
VLanceV that would actually be a sick plot twist tho. He was under our feet the whole time, immortalized as a true hidden one. Also it would symbolize him providing the foundation for the assassin brotherhood.
_Dysko_ idk, if anything it was Darius, Iltani, Wei Yu etc were the ones that formed the foundation for the brotherhood. Since, they were around hundreds of years before Bayek. Yes, Bayek created the Brotherhood, but if you're looking at it as a metaphor for construction then the assassins before Bayek (that weren't part of the brotherhood) formed the foundations, Bayek just finished the building.
James Love True. I guess what I was trying to sort of get at is that having a Bayek statue under all the other statues in the Auditore villa represents Bayek uniting the assassins under all one brotherhood, whether or not they came before or after him. Nevertheless, if there is a Bayek statue under all of the other statues it would blow my mind.
Wait ur just saying as a plot twist his statue wasn't there
Ve Rb no, they're saying as a plot twist his body is there.
Theory: the order or ancients are just the Egyptian version of the cult of kosmos
Paige Colborne I mean yes that’s the point of the villains In assassins creed. Powerful people who manipulate everything around them through their position of power. Templars, the Order of Ancients, and the Cult of Kosmos all basically have the same goal I think
There's a small mention of interaction between the two groups in the "Legacy of the First Blade" DLC for Odyssey. Apparently they didn't like each other.
They are proto templars
I’m pretty sure that’s a fact
They aren’t actually. The cult of Kosmos were the Templars, later the order of Ancients who actually knew how to use the artifacts all died,
"And Altair is just a bloody legend" - Fizhy 5 Jan 2018
It could be that Bayek didn't want to be remembered simply because he wanted people to believe that the brotherhood has always been. The brotherhood seeks to have peace and freedom. He wanted to be forgotten so Assassins would believe that the brotherhood wasn't simply created by one man with a vendetta, but with the collected minds of the PEOPLE, coming together in order to insure what's right for the PEOPLE. Just my thoughts.
bayek was not that educated to think out side of hes teachings
I agree with you Matt, that's pretty much the main purpose of the assassins
notoriousbig3k *_B R U H_*
notoriousbig3k Really nigga
I think they should make games based off of the assassins in the tombs in Italy
Like Darius who killed Xerxes 1
As well as Iltani who Killed Alexander The Great
Games like these may be the best in the series
Ancient China and Macedonia, those sound fascinating. Babylon would be, too.
Well, we got a dlc for Darius. So, the games probs not happening
@@theneekofficial8829 yep and the dlc explains nothing about him...
Odyssey explains xerxes death
Oh they will. When they run out of ideas
I just finished Origins yesterday, it was a great game. Very sad the breakup between Bayek and Aya/Amunet.
The ending of the DLC the Hidden Ones was also tough for Bayek, it felt to me he didn’t want Aya to go… and it was cool to see Origins was the origins of the hidden ones
Your explanation has made him as a character go farther up the chart than before, I never really thought about it like that.
This is a really good video, and your ideas are really interesting. This could pass as an actual reason why Bayek wasn't remembered. Good one mate.
Blade the assassins knew about him
For me, it is easier to understand why Bayek was forgotten and Aya wasn't. With the assassinations of Ceaser and Cleopatra, people are going to talk about this high profile murders. And from what I got, Bayek tend to go after smaller targets ensuring the people are well. Basically staying in his role of Medjay, only going after bigger targets when needed.
Stephan Wallace the assassins were looking for him
pipe2theface they were? I must have missed that part somewhere.
Stephan Wallace when I was playing ac origins, i remember interacting with William miles when he was next to bayeks tomb. And Im pretty sure he said “we’ve been looking for him for so long, and you found him”
Can’t wait for the Hidden One DLC
Zakthekiller999 then you find out it was actually just his birthday XD
BaseClaw Ones*
That Gopnik 😑
BaseClaw I have have both dlcs 😄
Love the music. I wanna play as Bayek with that music playing in the background. Forgot the soundtrack. It was a big part of the beauty of playing those early games.
When the couple Split to form the hidden ones, I feel that Aya took more of a figure head role which is why she took Ceaser and Cleo down, while Bayek took more of the Sargent of arms of you will and was more proactive within the group of early assassins
Bayek is kinda immortalised by the brotherhood removing their ring finger when earning their hidden blade, although Leonardo altered it so Ezio didn't need to do it, it's likely Altaire and as we know, Aguilar made the sacrifice. Another thing is with the DLC a Sinai Hidden One called him Mentor, but he insisted they are all just Hidden Ones, basically they are One, meaning there was no separation from the Bayek actions and general acts of the brotherhood.
Ray Butler Leonardo didn’t alter it. Altair made inscriptions on codex pages from knowledge of the apple. Altair altered the hidden blade. Not Leonardo
Kylestee 005 yes it’s very misunderstood that everything Leonardo did was his own thing which it isn’t, everything Leonardo built for ezio from the codex pages were from Altair
(If you haven't played the game, and don't want to be spoiled, don't read)
I agree that Bayek wanted to be forgotten, which probably when he temporarily spit with Aya that was some sort of hint, like he knew she was going to do such great things with the brotherhood that many would remember her for since she already killed a large name like Julius Cesar, but all Bayek ever wanted was revenge for his sons death, not fame, and just lived as an assistant to the brotherhood, a white coat within other white coats type of thing, while living a normal life on the side.
I’m really sorry but you spelled Caesar wrong and my OCD levels would have exploded if i didnt notify you.
Luks liek u need 2 start shuwin restrent
@@soupmayor-themayorofsoup Julie Cezer
Please stop. It’s an actual problem i have where misspelled things really bother me. I wasn’t trying to be rude i was just pointing it out.....
SpearMint july ceser
After playing AC Origins Bayek became my favorite Assassin. IMO he's the most legendary Assassin. The best one. The greatest one
I felt this character in my heart, i even get goosebumps seeing him in cool photos.
Bayek was really good at being a hidden one, a little too good...
I love that Bayek literally just created the Assassins in a moment of passion.
The Leonardo da Vinci theme in the background music is so calming 😊
Looking back from Odyssey, nice to see we're getting more legendary assassins in the games, with Darius popping up in the DLC season
Because he was a hidden one. That was the point
He was THE hidden ONE
darius wasnt an assassin. yet he has a statue.
Yet Aya....
@@lyrianmaximus4561 he killed xerxes
@@albirunirahmadani40 so?
Bayek is my favorite Assassin followed closely by Kenway.
Edward Kenway became an assassin towards the end of ac black flag and years later he became a Master Assassin leading the british brotherhood of assassins
when he helps the assassins in the ac black flag he gets welcomed into the brotherhood no ceremony just a handshake and gets told he has along way to go before he becomes a real assassin and in ac syndicate he is mentioned as pirate who later becomes a master assassin
so your still saying he wasn't an assassin at all
Icarus Deoliviera same here
1misanthropist you are right; it's unspoken in Black Flag. Ah Tabai gave Edward three targets to kill one of them Bartholomew Roberts taking almost a year to find and assassinate. After killing Torres, Edward donates his hideout at Great Inagua and we can assume from here that he actually was granted the rank of Assassin at that point. And then as stated above, at some point after being established in London, Edward did reach Master Assassin and co Mentor
Make Bayek a sequel he is BY FAR the best assassin in the history of all assassin creed games
1:37 I was about to be like "Where's my boi Kenway?"
First, I really enjoyed Bayek, he's my second favorite assassin in the entire franchise. Too bad he was a retcon, an afterthought. Now to my main points:
let's be honest, Bayek was never the main character. Aya was. While Bayek was liberating Egypt, Aya was gathering allies across the seas and negotiating. And somehow, Aya's role was seen as a greater importance. We can see this by the way that nearly everyone in-game treats Bayek as superfluous, especially when Aya's on screen. We are constantly told how great Aya, how important what she is doing is, and how lucky Bayek is. Meanwhile, the biggest praise Bayek got, other than from the villagers of Siwa, is being talked about and referenced by his appearance in the arena. Seriously, that's the biggest praise I remember Bayek ever getting in the story. Despite the fact that it was *Him*, not him and Aya, who created the brotherhood. While Aya was sulking in the corner, Bayek was the one raising morale and giving the speech that we could say officially started the brotherhood.
He also constantly gets shamed for his simplistic reasons for fighting by quite a few people near him, including Cleopatra, and his own wife! Remember when Aya asked, " What are you *OF* now?" shaming and judging him, while also implying that he is Bayek of nothing, just like the first big villain of the game! She does this to try and give him more fervor in fighting for Cleopatra's cause which backfired in her face, but, she still tries to get him to follow her lead despite this by saying " I've made mistakes, *YOU'VE* made mistakes." Implying he's fucked up as much as, and to the same degree, as her. However, I can't remember a single fuck-up to the same degree as Aya, even combining all of Bayeks fuck-ups, Aya's outshines his. This leads me to a point: Aya is a stubborn, self-righteous, condescending asshole, especially to Bayek.
Now, let's get back to Bayek's accomplishments and motivations. While Aya did kill big names like Ceasar and Cleopatra, I'd argue Bayek achieved just as much, simply in smaller pieces and more covertly. Which is why this situation is so odd. As assassins, the brotherhood should pay attention to, and praise, extremely covert actions as much as they do public milestones in history. Now, While I would say Bayek's motivations, in the beginning, were selfish, they do shift to new, better motivations fairly early in the story. But it isn't Aya's cause that he takes up, it's caring for the people in general. While no longer being Medjay, Bayek takes up his old duty and finds himself again. That's why the Medjay are brought up again and again, because Bayek took the core principle of the Medjay, and created a new order from it, seeing the old one as too tainted to continue. In this, Bayek is as true an assassin as any of the other big name assassins.
The reason that this shift doesn't really seem to be noticed by most people, in/out of the game, is that this new motivation is never really explicitly said or shown, and because his old motivation pops up again from time to time to take front stage in the form of the temporary blind bloodlust he gets when he thinks he is close to his son's true killer. Personally, instead of giving the cliche motivation of revenge for a loved one, I would have given him a motivation that fell more in line with his ending motivation.
All-in-all, the reason I believe Bayek was forgotten, despite the fact that he was just as good an assassin as the greats in terms of motivation, action, and long-term effect, is that it's easy to see the effect, gravity, and significance of say, assassinating a historical figure ( thus why Aya was remembered in Bayek's place within the time-period), but it's harder to see the effect, gravity, and significance of taking down an entire country's cities' corrupt local politicians, and other ways of aiding the general populace that Bayek did. It's sad really, he should be as revered as Aya, if not more so, due to him founding the order, along with his adherence to, and work towards the assassins' core principle.
Freezing Blue I originally thought that that Aya might have purposely tried to basically write him out of the history books because she was selfish and knowing he basically turned his back on her for the greater good she retaliated by making it so he wasn’t remembered
@@RiftEnalios Yup. And that's why they were buried together...
It's my plight with Arthur and John. Sure, most would consider Morgan as the main pinnacle why John was he was in Red Dead 1. But through its heart in a way the games were still all about John. Bayek was to be the pinnacle for Aya's actions as Amunet.
@Freezing Blue. Thank God someone finally understands why Bayek is the best assassin and why Aya is a selfish prick
We should have played as aya not bayek, would have been better
I like this idea of Bayek not wanting attention for his deeds, to the people in his life he was a Medji, only his brothers and sisters knew the truth, and that would be something that’s something that would be very poetic in nature. Bayek is so far my favorite character in the series and I hope to learn more about him in the future. Keep up with the vids. Man your doing great.
WTF CHEESENIPS why so serious? Someone stole your cookie? Daddy touched you inappropriately at night? Why are you so angry honey?
But he was known all around Egypt. Everyone knew his actions in killing the order.
Top Generic RUclipsr Not the common people though
In the dlc's Bayek removed the order of ancients presence from the Sinai with amunet. And he saved Thebes from the curse of the pharaohs while also retrieving a piece of eden. He probably wasn't remembered because in the first dlc at the end amunet says that when she returns to Rome she will not speak of heroes. But of discipline. Or simply because Bayek didn't want to be remembered.
Video was very informative, enjoyed it.
What if that chamber had more floors?
i think you are on to something
This is intereting
huskytzu 😂😂
You big brain
I just had a orgasm reading this
Wow man, I'm really impressed by this video. It's obvious how much time you've put in this and how you also improve with editing. I think you're right btw, as the founder would never be forgotten unless he asked for it himself. At least that's how my sense works! Again, very nice video, it was beautifully made :)
The best assassins are the ones that never have been noticed or remembered.
Thanks for the warning at start. I appreciate it
Hey in the criminal business like hitmen or assassins the best reputation to have is basically no reputation or just a whisper or two but nothing too definitive is it not
Charles O'Neal but if your own organization doesnt remember you
Jacky Boy but if you didn’t want to be remebered
@@Wildcard-Jack-47 well those that have statues are the people who assassinated the people who were famous not the people like isu or order of the ancient
They were three of people with more power but they were unknown
So was bayek he created the brotherhood but he did not want fame
I would love a sequel for either: Connor, Arno or Bayek
Arno had so much potential, and was simply underdeveloped.
I would love that. Especially Connor
Darth Creed i think people hate ac3 because desmond died and u know connors personality
It’s not just getting to no his personality, like with Ezio he didn’t need brother hood or revelations but I’m glad he did, I think Arno and Connor should get a trilogy, Arno could go to Austria in the early 1800s or Connor could go to Japan in the late 1700’s, to be honest anywhere with them
Darth Creed Connor and Arno vs Shay
That's right, I remember now. Byak was always someone who kept secrets and never told who he was. He stuck to the name, The Hidden Ones and stuck to the shadows as he was ment to do and was a phantom. Aya on the other hand was probably like all the others, someone who not only did something big, but bragged about it as well with other assassins or people. Regardless tho, Byak is and was always a phantom, he knew what needed to be done and did everything he needed to on his own. I respect him for that, and that's why I, along with some others, are proud to call ourselves Hidden Ones
Because he found relics of the ones that came before and he knew they had to be kept safe from ALL and to do that it needed to be forgotten completely ! And he as its Guardian had to Disappear Completely
Alexander the Great lived 200 years before the Origin timeline....
But the assassin that killed Alexander The Great wasn't the 1st Alexander the great I think it was the 3rd ir 4th.
@@isLisiX i think historically there us only one Alexander the great.
Fates Fate yeah but I’m talking about in game he probably killed on of the later Alexander the Great.
@@isLisiX the game is ment to be historical. Of course the isu didn't actually exist but assassins and templars exist.
Its Assassin's Creed! What did you expect?
THANK YOU FOR MAKING A VIDEO THAT GETS TO THE POINT AND NOT BE LIKE OTHER RUclipsRS WHO MAKE A 15 MINUTE VIDEO ABOUT NOTHING
Idea that in 21st century might be one more group of assassin's who are called "The Hidden Ones", and those kills only the lead figures of the world could be magnificent story addition.
It is possible that bayek was eventually forgotten since when Layla read the tablet in his tomb it was ancient Egyptian and she could only dad due to the bleeding effect so maybe he wasn't known because there was no readable text about bayek specifically
it was not ancient egyptian it was modern for those days and combined with greek and latin already lol
ancient was wha the uncovered in desert and temples and the secrets etc
He´s a Hidden one
That implies he stays hidden.
An update to this video post valhalla would be awesome. Considering we see letters from Bayek to Aya discussing exactly this (and info from the codex pages)
Bayek is a "Hidden One"
It's that simple.
A GOD among men.
The hidden ones DLC supports his second theory
Spoiler:
After the hidden ones in Senu base burned and after the main story they go up into the mountions and decide to stay their hiding and Bayek litteraly says in the DLC The hidden ones need to be more of a secret in order to still hide in the shadows.
If you follow william miles in the modern day he talks about bayek when you interact
yeah they know about him, but not much.. i feel like everything bayek did was erased or forgotten in books, and only the great mentors know of him and what he did. (since william is a mentor)
Holy holy....NAIL ON THE HEAD...he didn't wanna be remembered....or spotlight..THANK YOU FOR SEEING THAT!! KEEP POSTING. You make sense.
It's ironic that the statues in AC2 go against The Hidden Ones rules. Amunet tried to remind the order of this and in doing so her name was leaked through the Magas Codex. (Valhalla)
Wait, just a thought but if Alexander the great was assassinated by an assassin then did bayek really create the order as we see the body of Alexander in origins?
They were Assassins who shared ideals with the later established Brotherhood, but there was no Brotherhood when they were around.
Alan117 Bayek established everything dude. The Hidden Ones are the Brotherhood.
Aya and Bayek created the order wich will later be known as the assassin's, everyhting before were just a few groups who had some similar goals and ideals in common, but there wasn't an order that worked in international scale, but more like... little guilds in the respective kingdoms
Alan117 you forgot xerxes the first as well
Alan117 was looking for this question thank you sir!
That spoiler warning was slick asf
It really was.
Fizhy whahahhaha
Fizhy but what’s the music that follows
Great video!
I’ve been waiting to watch this for an obscene amount of time.
Finally had time to finish the game. And what an enjoyable time it was
I have great respect for Bayak as I do aya. She gave up her love life and was lead on by Cleopatra. She felt a greater sense of purpose because of her but soon has understood she needed to create her own story that lead on for thousands of years and even admitted her actions were to known. I love aya for her bravery and Bayak for his humbleness. He just missed his son so much. Aya probably groves and needed to see to greater purpose in order to feel accomplished in her life.
I would not say lead on by Cleopatra since I think Cleopatra just changed when she gained the throne
Wow that’s very liberal of u
Audrey R to some degree, I agree with what you say. Aya always saw the bigger picture but that does not mean you give up everything in your life. To let go of something we need closure, she never found that and she robbed bayek of that chance. The lingering love that you see from them on the dlc (hidden ones) as well as the ending of the main story when she said she still does not feel happy means she just has not gotten over the death of her son. She did not give herself the space or the time to grieve. Bayek's only chance to do that was to spend some time with her but she never had time for the man. She always pushed her emotions down and drowned herself in her work while dismissing bayek whenever he wanted to talk about their sons' death.
I think that every assassin in the series should get at least one sequel
Tai Vitolo or at least a conclusion that doesn’t leave people hanging. Edwards fate was already sealed since the AC 3 book came out but at least he had a conclusion
Conner,Arno and the Frye twins deserve a sequel
Edit: Also bayek
Except ezio
Apart from the twins. Fuck those two
Edward will never be an assassin in my eyes. Only just a pirate with stolen robes. Great pirate game, shit AC game.
I love that all these years later with valhalla bayek did have a letter that Reda got a hold of that is him, telling Aya, that assassins are talking about here and making records of her name and she needs to put a stop to it. My man bayek stayed invisible to everyone it seems, except the mysterious Reda having thar letter almost 900 years later lol
Bayek is in reality the only “True” Hidden One in all aspects of the term
The music at the beginning gave me nostalgia shivers :)