I've tried just about every kind of rig over the years in my designing, I now much prefer the balanced lugsail for the smaller craft, up to about 10 sq metres it is a much superior rig. Above that, I like the junk rig.
Thank you so much for letting us follow your thought process! In total openness for new creative solutions you seem to have settled for ”less is more”. I’m not surprised. ”Less is more” seems to be the motto for all your constructions, from the sextant to your boats. And it is so good to see that you, even after a long life as a constructor, don’t go there as a reflex, but after careful considerations. 👍😊
I follow you, Wave Rover, and Ocean Capable Small Sailboat. I enjoy all of you and am excited that you all share ideas from such different parts of the globe. I hope you can all meet face to face some day.
Go with what you know. I think the rig you have should be very balanced and easy to sail. I think the simpler it is the easier it will be for one sailor. Thanks for posting the video.
The original Junkriggs a Junkboat big like a soccer field! With sloping masts it was war shipps before the Emperor want peace and forebids this riggs! I really want to see this rigg be Tested again! but You play out full diversity of choice! it kan be great to try test and error and try again! I love it! Good luck!
Ahoy there Yrvind,how are you,well I hope. I also hope that you're going to put all that detail in your publication about your journeys, experience upon the seas and including an instruction on your methods and designs of your very interesting Vessels, it would be really great and an awesome addition to the Maritime library. All the best regards from here on the West Coast side of Australia 🌏 Cape Naturaliste
I follow your build with much greater interest than Wave Rover. A big part of this is the advanced engineering you have put into keeping Exlex afloat and unharmed. I think you have fogotten more about sailing than He has ever learned. That said, I respect anybody that is willing to put his or her life on the line again and again to prove a survival critical theory. Godspeed to both, even though I think of Wave Rover 6.50 as a floating walnut.
I agree with you completely. The broader, non-triangular sail affords the most area possible without developing a height that one cannot reach standing on the deck. I'm working on a design which is a little less simple, but has the same goals. Basically it's a trapazoid on lieu of a square, and pivots from the horizontal (fully reefed) to vertical (downwind profile). I can scan a sketch of it if you are curious. You're free to use some part of it in your thinking about these things. with my regards, Joe
I think your first sentence says it all. This is the rig you are most familiar with. I also think that you have made some excellent choices in your sail plan. It is simple, durable, and easy to repair. Size scale matters. If EX LEX was a 13 m boat, the Chinese lug might have been a better deal. But at 6 m all those little sheetlet lines would be a real snag hazard.
I've always wanted a balanced lugsail boat. Seems like such a good adaptation of both gybing more safely / slowly, while also keeping the sheeting forces lower, and giving a clear leading edge for the sail, thus maybe not needing a jib in front of it. Given a freestanding mast design, you can do away with all the guy wires around the boat, and then you can extend that lugsail all the way forward to get the right angle of attack for basically any situation going downwind. No spinnakers, no dancing on deck with a boom.. Why are we not producing more balanced lugs instead of bermuda rig? I mean fine, bermuda is FAST upwind.
Was wondering if you have any suggestions I have a force 5 sailboat I would like it to have more control over the sail as it's the type you can't take down as you sail u think I could use the existing mast and boom and still rig something like your sail design to it some type of lug sail what do you think ? You have know trouble tacking up wind with your design?
All the sail and masts can be reached from the deck hatches. Distance hatch - mast is 0.8 meter. I agre it is unsafe to go on deck in rough conditions.
With my limited (zero) experience of this rig and sail plan my questions evolve around one predominant factor of the square sail in that it creates a large vortices. Obviously, the rig will sail down wind poorly but sailing into the wind there will be large vortices created which will create drag. In considering mast two and three the increasing amount of drag and turbulence will effectively force a much larger tack. I'm reminded of Christopher Columbus...I believe it was Santa Maria but technology has given way to better plans. Probably, the cutter rig would perform best. That said, I truly like the square sails and the junk rig. It should do nicely and is quite sexy looking in my humble opine. Building the sails, rigging, etc etc is also attractive to me, to being on point as smart. Probably this ship will perform well with just the center mast.
@@SvenYrvindExlex @@SvenYrvindExlex Yes, I can see where your downwind plan ( wing on wing) will perform nicely as you demonstrate. I wouldn't disagree with real experience and documentation. You will have plenty of force this way. Going out on a limb here with imagination and a spirit of adventure; I wonder if the aft mast sail batons could be split while the forward mast batons not split. Deeper, I wonder if selecting sail cloth with different characteristics wouldn't be worth while. It seems that I envision a lighter more permeable cloth upward and forward along with split batons center and aft. I also wonder if the mast heights shouldn't be stepped down fore to aft. All of this because the downwind plan increases the water line and drag exponentially. Theoretically, a terminal velocity will be reached easily without much ability to utilize the sail surface fully due to the turbulence, vortices, sail drag, and an increasing water line down wind.
Quite frankly Sven, without performing advanced algorithms I can tell you this: If you design a perfectly circular round sail for the far aft mast you will likely find a revolutionary advancement in the dynamic nature of this rig sail plan : even if it is a failure. I admire your contributions. Thanks
@@ryder6070 Yep you're probably correct but my last pursuit took me to turbine engine school which took me back to mastering the elusive automatic transmission both of which I enjoy being a technician of but these reinforced my piloting and study of aerodynamics as I am designing several original aircraft and power systemsb( I'm most proud of my electrical engineering skills) but fluid dynamics had a lasting impression. I never expected to have any contribution in aeronautical engineering but after being gifted the original plan sets and designs of the many contributions in aircraft design and manufacture was pivotal in allowing me entry...things get very complex in time. Watching Sven develop from experience, using a personal ability and comprehension actually literally provides me an opportunity to learn and to understand very complex systems especially in respect to hydrodynamics, aerodynamics, and manufacture. Cheers
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I've tried just about every kind of rig over the years in my designing, I now much prefer the balanced lugsail for the smaller craft, up to about 10 sq metres it is a much superior rig. Above that, I like the junk rig.
Thanks for this very important information.
Thank you so much for letting us follow your thought process! In total openness for new creative solutions you seem to have settled for ”less is more”. I’m not surprised. ”Less is more” seems to be the motto for all your constructions, from the sextant to your boats. And it is so good to see that you, even after a long life as a constructor, don’t go there as a reflex, but after careful considerations. 👍😊
I follow you, Wave Rover, and Ocean Capable Small Sailboat. I enjoy all of you and am excited that you all share ideas from such different parts of the globe. I hope you can all meet face to face some day.
Go with what you know. I think the rig you have should be very balanced and easy to sail. I think the simpler it is the easier it will be for one sailor. Thanks for posting the video.
The original Junkriggs a Junkboat big like a soccer field! With sloping masts it was war shipps before the Emperor want peace and forebids this riggs! I really want to see this rigg be Tested again! but You play out full diversity of choice! it kan be great to try test and error and try again! I love it! Good luck!
Ahoy there Yrvind,how are you,well I hope. I also hope that you're going to put all that detail in your publication about your journeys, experience upon the seas and including an instruction on your methods and designs of your very interesting Vessels, it would be really great and an awesome addition to the Maritime library. All the best regards from here on the West Coast side of Australia 🌏 Cape Naturaliste
I follow your build with much greater interest than Wave Rover. A big part of this is the advanced engineering you have put into keeping Exlex afloat and unharmed. I think you have fogotten more about sailing than He has ever learned. That said, I respect anybody that is willing to put his or her life on the line again and again to prove a survival critical theory. Godspeed to both, even though I think of Wave Rover 6.50 as a floating walnut.
I agree with you completely. The broader, non-triangular sail affords the most area possible without developing a height that one cannot reach standing on the deck. I'm working on a design which is a little less simple, but has the same goals.
Basically it's a trapazoid on lieu of a square, and pivots from the horizontal (fully reefed) to vertical (downwind profile). I can scan a sketch of it if you are curious. You're free to use some part of it in your thinking about these things.
with my regards,
Joe
Thank you Sven for the update today. Stay well and have a productive weekend.
I think your first sentence says it all. This is the rig you are most familiar with.
I also think that you have made some excellent choices in your sail plan. It is simple, durable, and easy to repair.
Size scale matters. If EX LEX was a 13 m boat, the Chinese lug might have been a better deal. But at 6 m all those little sheetlet lines would be a real snag hazard.
Lug is my favourite, I use one on my sailing canoe.
Balanced lug rid is my favorite type to make for my small rigs. I'm interested in what you come up with.
I've always wanted a balanced lugsail boat. Seems like such a good adaptation of both gybing more safely / slowly, while also keeping the sheeting forces lower, and giving a clear leading edge for the sail, thus maybe not needing a jib in front of it. Given a freestanding mast design, you can do away with all the guy wires around the boat, and then you can extend that lugsail all the way forward to get the right angle of attack for basically any situation going downwind. No spinnakers, no dancing on deck with a boom.. Why are we not producing more balanced lugs instead of bermuda rig? I mean fine, bermuda is FAST upwind.
He "modify" the junk rig. Brilliant.
Hi friend 👋
Was wondering if you have any suggestions I have a force 5 sailboat I would like it to have more control over the sail as it's the type you can't take down as you sail u think I could use the existing mast and boom and still rig something like your sail design to it some type of lug sail what do you think ? You have know trouble tacking up wind with your design?
Yet to use ballance lug other than a dinghy and I recall it as easy. Plan to work with it again.
I like your logic.
Having used both the junk and balanced lug, I would still prefer the junk rig.
😁👍
why NOT just use the Gaff sail??? seems stronger>
how about rectangular balance lug sail?
Going on deck to access the front sail in rough conditions looks unsafe. Overall though, the balanced lug rig you've designed for EXLEX looks perfect!
All the sail and masts can be reached from the deck hatches. Distance hatch - mast is 0.8 meter.
I agre it is unsafe to go on deck in rough conditions.
My new rig will be a dipping lug.
With my limited (zero) experience of this rig and sail plan my questions evolve around one predominant factor of the square sail in that it creates a large vortices. Obviously, the rig will sail down wind poorly but sailing into the wind there will be large vortices created which will create drag. In considering mast two and three the increasing amount of drag and turbulence will effectively force a much larger tack. I'm reminded of Christopher Columbus...I believe it was Santa Maria but technology has given way to better plans. Probably, the cutter rig would perform best. That said, I truly like the square sails and the junk rig. It should do nicely and is quite sexy looking in my humble opine. Building the sails, rigging, etc etc is also attractive to me, to being on point as smart. Probably this ship will perform well with just the center mast.
Down wind the square sail is more efficient than the triangular sail.
Already Eiffel found that out.
@@SvenYrvindExlex @@SvenYrvindExlex
Yes, I can see where your downwind plan ( wing on wing) will perform nicely as you demonstrate. I wouldn't disagree with real experience and documentation. You will have plenty of force this way. Going out on a limb here with imagination and a spirit of adventure; I wonder if the aft mast sail batons could be split while the forward mast batons not split. Deeper, I wonder if selecting sail cloth with different characteristics wouldn't be worth while. It seems that I envision a lighter more permeable cloth upward and forward along with split batons center and aft. I also wonder if the mast heights shouldn't be stepped down fore to aft. All of this because the downwind plan increases the water line and drag exponentially. Theoretically, a terminal velocity will be reached easily without much ability to utilize the sail surface fully due to the turbulence, vortices, sail drag, and an increasing water line down wind.
Quite frankly Sven, without performing advanced algorithms I can tell you this: If you design a perfectly circular round sail for the far aft mast you will likely find a revolutionary advancement in the dynamic nature of this rig sail plan : even if it is a failure.
I admire your contributions. Thanks
@@anthonyrstrawbridge I don't think we need advanced algorithms here, the wheel cannot be reinvented
@@ryder6070 Yep you're probably correct but my last pursuit took me to turbine engine school which took me back to mastering the elusive automatic transmission both of which I enjoy being a technician of but these reinforced my piloting and study of aerodynamics as I am designing several original aircraft and power systemsb( I'm most proud of my electrical engineering skills) but fluid dynamics had a lasting impression. I never expected to have any contribution in aeronautical engineering but after being gifted the original plan sets and designs of the many contributions in aircraft design and manufacture was pivotal in allowing me entry...things get very complex in time. Watching Sven develop from experience, using a personal ability and comprehension actually literally provides me an opportunity to learn and to understand very complex systems especially in respect to hydrodynamics, aerodynamics, and manufacture. Cheers