Götterdämmerung (19/19) - Wagner, "Ring" Akt III - Finale Erlösungsmotiv - Valencia 2008
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Richard Wagner: "Ring des Nibelungen". „Fliegt heim, ihr Raben!" „Grane, mein Roß! Sei mir gegrüßt!" Erlösung, Immolation, Schlussakt. Götterdämmerung in einer außergewöhnlichen Inszenierung mit La Fura dels Baus, 3D-Videoprojektionen/ Frank Aleu / Palau de les Arts Reina Sofía, Valencia 2008.
Siegfried - Lance Ryan
Gunther - Ralf Lukas
Hagen - Matti Salminen
Brünnhilde - Jennifer Wilson
Alberich - Franz Josef Kapellmann
Gutrune - Elisabete Matos
Waltraude - Catherine Wyn-Rogers
Dirigent/Conductor: Zubin Mehta
Inszenierung: La Fura dels Baus und Carlus Padrissa
Orquestra de la Comunitat Valenciana
Cor de la Generalitat Valencia
Regie: Carlus Padrissa
Videos: Frank Aleu
Bühnenbild: Roland Olbeter
Kostüme: Chu Uroz
Anello del Nibelungo, Anneau du Nibelung, Goetterdaemmerung, Gotterdammerung,
Alle Rechte bei Unitel/ZDF 2008/3sat
TV-Aufzeichnung 3Sat vom 27.02.2010
www.3sat.de/dyn...
Das mit der Menschlichen Burg, die dann auseinander fällt ist einfach genial 👏
One of the finest productions of the Ring - wish I had been around to see it, maybe there will be a reprise! Simply stunning.
I was present in the first whole Ring cycle in June 2009. Up to date, my strongest operatic experience so far. Not even the 2016 Bayreuth Ring cycle was close to that, and only a 2008 Vienna State Opera Parsifal under Thielemann reached almost such a deep impression on me.
On the many comments on the staging, the crane and alike: the stage designers based their concept on many of the devices Wagner himself used in the 1876 first ever staging of the Ring, in Bayreuth. In other words, the original Walkyries were on similar "trolleys" as having horses on stage is difficult. Some other mechanisms are also quite alike to what Wagner created over a century ago.
Would Wagner have used screens, projections, laser and all of that would he have been given the chance? He was an artist, one of the greatest ever. We do not know what he could have chosen would his score be terminated today, but I tend to think his staging would not have been very far from his. And the reason is that he struggled for a Gesamtkuntswerk, and this is exactly what Mehta/Padrissa did here: they used whatever artistic means for a better and deeper approach to the work. From that perspective, it is illogical to stick to stagings of the XIX or XX centuries, let us use everything we have now for the only purpose of showing the world how amazing this score is, and how the many vices and crimes described therein are still as valid today as they were over a century ago (or 2000 years ago, for the same pupose). A tree can be a simple tree or a wonderful, lighting tree. Does the message change? I do not think so, as far as the essence of the message is respected.
And I do not see any disrespect in this production. On the opposite, the director tried hard to stick to the message the work conveys, using the many technical advantages Wagner did not have at his time.
A friendly advice: enjoy the music and the staging as one entity, and try to avoid pre-conceptions. The important thing is not to strictly follow what the libretto says but to perceive what the composer tried to say. If for that purpose we use modern techniques, we are not sacriligeous, we are simply reaching to more people in a wonderful manner.
I agree that the staging is not so bad and Wagner probably would have done it similarly if he had had the same tools. And frankly since this is what opera houses do nowadays, opera fans better learn to appreciate this staging or prive themselves from ever enjoying a live opera ever again.
I totally agree. If one does some research on what Wagner's original ideas were for the Rhine Maidens, one will be surprised as to how close to this interpretation some of his original ideas were.
Wagner was defenetly the greatest composer of the Romantic period! His powerful music has influenced the modern music until today.
Your spelling definitely is not.
The greatest composer of all time. His operas are beyond the sublime. The redemption motif from gotterdammerung is worth more than all the history of World music put together. And those five rapturous motifs going simultaneously as Siegfried scales the mountain in Siegfried. Truly unbelievable. Wagner's composition is actually supernatural. And the emotional power, totally unsurpassed. This is art in the raw. Stripped of all artificial posturing and superficial veneer for the sake of pleasing audiences. As it all should be. But isnt. Beethoven late string quartets do a similar thing. Most so called classical music is basically just blowing air up stuffed shirts. As macbeth says, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
@@noeltroy2634 Wagner was racist, but damn he was a great composer
Grauenhafte Inszenierung zu phantastischer Musik! Die Unfähigkeit zu der grandiosen Musik eine passende und erträgliche Inszenierung zu bieten ist erschreckend!
Jennifer Wilson is THE Wagnerian soprano of our time....period. None of the others even comes close to her great vocalism and beautiful sound.
Definitely the best I ever saw! Strong pictures, great voices, great conductor.
I was there with my eyes closed and just listening to the music. It was one of the most intense musical experiences in my life.
Something happens with La Fura dels Baus: they work more and more to steal the composer’s limelight and they forget we pay for Wagner, not for their fireworks.
Wholeheartedy agree. I can never understand why producers cannot give a fresh look to Wagner's works without bastardising them or turning them into star wars.
Crazy but stunning. I've been watching many chunks of this production on You Tube. I wish to heck I had seen it live. All the visuals tie in directly to the music and text.
Whoa. For a modern staging, this is really kind of awesome.
The transition is perfect : 07:17
Every conductor has his interpreation of the thing. This one sounds great.
yes, this one sounds pretty balanced. i just hate these oddly long pauses.
So, it begins
Sehr schön, so viele Erinnerungen meine Güte, die beste Musik ❤
I’m just so happy when my Rhein Maidens get their gold back and their leitmotif plays 🥺
:-)
Zuruck Im ring!
can you imagine what kind of a visual mindfuck this would be if they made a big budget movie out of these ?
Jennifer Wilson is the best Brunnhilde. See how she sustains the note at 1:08. I compared her to many others and nobody else can sustain that note as well as she does. And to think she is an American.
Die Götterdämmerung endet ja mit dem Brand des Götterhimmels Walhall! Ich erinnere mich als ich am 11. September 2001 die Bilder der einstürzenden Zwillingstürme in New-York am Fernsehen sah, dachte ich plötzlich an das Wagnerstück!
"Crane, mein lift!" Just kidding ;p
Oh my god : )
Crane rated 10 tons capacity
Nur die geniale Musik zählt.....
Wunderbar, danke für s Hochladen. Großartig, die Fura dels Baus, einzigartig !
Very good singing ! Great performance.
Bester Ring aller Zeiten!
Da stimme ich absolut zu! Modern und mit viel tiefer Symbolik, so wie es mytholgisch, spirtuell, religös u.sw. gemeint war von Wagner!
Lapidar geht es erstmal um Macht und Gier, 2008, daher wurde in Siegfried, hier, wurde die Lehmann Brother Pleite inziniert!
Loge, god of fire. As wild as it seems the visuals were very well worked out from beginning to end. Check out the finale from Rheingold, you will see Valhalla made up of the dead bodies of fallen heroes, - who burn here as Valhalla burns. Check out the Rheinmaidens at the beginning of the opera as well. I think it's stunning because it is so well put together even as it seems off the wall.
Wow, what a wild and awesome production! J. West has some voice! Would have liked to have seen this production. Cheers!
I dunno... there were very clever ideas here and there, but I'd like to see more conservative stagings of the Ring.
Zubin Mehta was stupendous as usual.
And thanks for sharing!
Fascinating staging of this last act.
Took me 6 years to see this. I am in tears. What an amazing production. Thank you so muc for posting.
Epic music.
Braaaaaviiii!!!🎶👌👏👏👏👏👏
Ich bedanke mich beim edlen Spender fürs Hochladen. Ich fand diesen Ring großartig und bemerkenswert. Vielen Dank. dazu passend ingeb.org/Lieder/inderdun.html Nibelungen Gedicht von Agnes Miegel
this whole stage production is a gigantic WTF...but when you close your eyes the music isn't that bad ;)
That. was. AMAZING! Oh my gosh. So well done!
Jennifer West is unequivocally the best Brunnhilde I've heard in years. Compared to the monstrosities (Watson, Gasteen [better spelled Ghast-een]) we've had to endure, she's sent from Wagner Heaven!!
Absolutely stunning. I am surprised there are so many haters. Find a traditional staged production and watch that if this is not your taste.
Perhaps the haters prefer to just sit and look at the clock. LMAO.
First bravo bravissimo. I was rivetted throughout. I didnt always grasp the production but it did nothing to detract from the music and often made things very much easier to understand. The use of the full height of the stage is so important and I liked the way the stage hands were often a part of the performance. The whole thing flowed just in the way that Wagner intended, though he would have probably had several fits at the costumes and settings. Both Hagen and Brunnhilde were magnificent but the whole cast were very solid. The men´s chorus too were outstanding I thought. The only blemish for me was the Siegfried funeral music which seemed to come apart a bit at the beginning. Overall just a wonderful experience. How I wish I´d been there! Many thanks for uploading. ps I dont understand German, but it really didnt matter!
Thank very much for your wonderful video - I love the Götterdämmerung and have seen this Götterdämmerung also von 3sat. I loved it quite much.
I think we actually agree. I am talking about taking advantage of advances in lighting and stagecraft without changing the period or concept that the composer intended.
Beautiful
This is probably the funniest video I've ever seen at youtube. Unfortunately, I don't think that was Wagner's intention.
Oh doch! das kann man! Insbesondere, wenn das Niveau der Inszenierung das eines Fussballspieles nicht überschreitet! - Im Übrigen dürfte ich die Qualifikation zu einem solchen Urteil besitzen. Ich habe mich mein ganzes bisheriges Leben intensicv mit Operninszenierungen und noch intensiver mit Richard Wagner befasst - und viel von meinem Vater (der Opernregisseuer ist) gelernt! Vor allem habe ich gelernt, wirklich hinzuschauen uns daher sofort gute Regie von schlechter zu unterscheiden!
Was lucky enough to have been thereby trumps many centenary productions!
Der Ring Des Nibelungen is the most perfect piece of music ever composed. The Valencia 2008 is the greatest performance in all of recorded history. This is the greatest performance of the greatest music in human history. Do yourself a favor and buy the blu-ray!
Man i love the orchestral stuff from 5:16 to the end.
If her weight keeps her singing like this, may she never lose a pound. Only Flagstad ever sang it any better.
+Jim Shanesy
Oh come off it...ever heard of Nilsson or Varnay? From this clip she seems to sing very well, but it doesn't quite have the character or emotional depth that those two had, nor the power at the top.
@@fudslush2910 Agreed. And speaking from a purely vocal point of view, this lady's wobbly emission has been surpassed by many fine sopranos in the role, including Frida Leider, Germaine Lubin, Gertrud Grob-Prandl, Ursula Schröder-Feinen, Rita Hunter and Linda Kelm, not to mention Varnay, Nilsson and Flagstad.
If the NY MET Opera can get a Brunnhilde that can even sing half as well, I would be happy.
Good grief! And who was that running around at the end?
I like this web of people hanging around...looks kind of cool although I'm normally not a big fan of those "modern" opera reproductions...
Close your eyes and enjoy the music.
As incredibly strange an Immolation Scene -- or anything in opera, for that matter -- as I have ever experienced! What. Was.That?
Ouch. This was painful to watch.
Exquisite.
Best Brunnhilde since Flagstad, without question.
No but the best since the great ones (Nilsson).
Jennifer Wilson did it great, but the moment when Grane is a vehicle... and the trolley pusher who 'jumped' into the fire with her.
Wuuuuuuuuuuunderbaaaaaaaar !!!
The "Crane" was intentional lol But I'm with you on all points, fo sho.
0:17 : statue of liberty???? valencia or N.Y.???
Why is Hagen wearing these signs on his costume?
Whoever did Brunhilde's costume should have been thrown on the funeral pyre. With all the so called "creative" productions of the Ring that abound, maybe it's time for someone to take a fresh look at what Wagner wrote and his copious stage directions and revisit the mounting of a traditional Ring.
mist, verpasst, damn I missed that
I think it looked good, but i´ve never seen an incenation before, only read about it, and i didn´t understand a bit. What the hell just happened?
Hell happened. Flames.
The conducting was excellent. The production silly.
Una messinscena epica, innovatrice, mai banale
love love love
6:40 OOOH, is that a Dalek?
Oh. Disappointing.
jackal59 HAHAHAHA!
+jackal59 YES, YES YES!!! I'm surprised not more people commented on that. This whole fricking thing is sooooooooo Dr. Who!
A truly fantastic performance..... But needing a crane to lift her does rather draw attention to her weight.
No worries; crane was made in Stuttgart and is rated at 10 tonnes. Lots of safety factor in the design.
too fast
We humans are still around so I think it is just the end of the age of gods.
Wagner's art would die if there were no modern productions.
Ich bin bei den Göttern kein großer Kenner von Opern und deren Inszenierungen aber...Was soll das darstellen? Wie kann man so ein Epos so mit "Modernität" verhunzen?! Das tut mir in der Seele weh. Und die, die sich die Kostüme ausdachten, gehören geohrfeigt.
The phrasing and tempi by Zubin Metha were second to none. The only thing I liked about the production was all those hanging people dying in the right place at the actualization of Gotterdammerung's motiv; (the entire opera and motive's namesake) at 7:17 but if the stage production isn't too your liking 1) IT'S THE FREAKING RING! what do u expect? and 2) music should come 1st. In this case it does and wins. Get a life trolls. or Alberichs in this case :)
Yeah, but Alberich is still around
@@popeclementine9429 You're correct. Not just because I never implied the character "Alberich" wasn't in Gotterdammerung, but also because I suppose It'd be fruitless to tell Alberich to "get a life"
@@Paolo8772 yes I liked your comment that the trolls should STFU
pretty bizarre.
WOW|!!!!!
6:53 And then I saw a new Heaven and new Earth. For the first Heaven and the first Earth were passed away, and there was no more sea
Revelation 21:1 KJV
The music of the Last Judgement
After Gwyneth Jones no Brunhilde has a chance. But in that awful breast armour Jennifer Wilson just looks totally ridiculous and whatever her voice she loses whatever chance she might have had! You would have thought someone on the production team might just possibly have noticed!
4:18
BTW, the guy on the Segway at the end is Loge. Come back to gloat, I guess.
Hagen!
@@jeffkelland7871 Hagen, or Loge, did he need to come back on a mobility scooter?
@@davidgifford6792 Can't be Hagen.
Then, sir, you have truly never listend to the music.
Holarious
Wagner non è per Mehta
this production is beyond ghastly. it ABBA meets Andy Warhol.
I'm sorry to say but it seems to be a new trend. The latest Met production is painful to watch and that just one of many. Very sad.
Sadly, I do NOT share your opinion, for me this is one of the most interesting stagings of the Ring in the last 30 years!
@@pfuetz64 agreed!
Ghastly, maybe, but this is art and it evolves. And I'm a conservative and purist, but open to new productions. That said, I still prefer more old school interpretations.
Hey all! This is probably what Kirsten Flagstad would sound like if this was the technology in her day.
it looks like something you'd see at a strip bar in Las Vegas.
Loge.
The musical performances are almost best , and the direction is worst.
eine grauenhafte inszenierung. wagner würde sich im grab rumdrehen. der ring spielt in mythischer deutscher sagenvergangenheit, man sollte das respektieren und auch die inszenierung so auslegen!!
I was enjoying this until the wheelchair/crane came on
Woah, What the heck. This staging is horrible and offends German culture.
archaic100 Exactly the same observation I've done! It is unwatchable! ...
+archaic100 i was with you until you said "offends german culture".
we can each have our preference, and yes i find this version lacking much preferring those closer to the original, but why should we restrict what we devise based on culture or tradition? tastes vary, and just because its not like the original it doesnt give you a right to be offended.
+archaic100 I am Geman and I love all sorts of culture, but I´m not offended at all.
+archaic100 you are so right--offends the concept of Valhalla--they have to reinvent the wheel and no next to nothing about mythos
täte ihnen wohl gefallen, 'entartete' kunst wieder zu verbieten...allein ihr profilbild schrammt schon an wiederbetätigung ....
Perfect without watching this bullshit
The grotesque staging, costumes, etc., are an unsuccessful attempt to mock the composer's music.
It's worst than the cyberpunk Turandot
Wagner hätte sich über diese Aufmachung entsetzt und bestimmt nie wieder Opern komponiert. Wundervolle Musik, aber absolut lächerliche Inszenierung . Das macht alles kaputt. Ich musste voll lachen, als sie die stämmige Brünhilde auf diesem Gestell erst hochgehievt und sie dann mitsamt dem Gefährt ins Feuer gekarrt haben. Und das ganze Drumherum. Einfach nur lachhaft!
Terrible staging and awful costumes.
horrible....!!!!!!