If you want to catch any of my livestreams over at Twitch: www.twitch.tv/smellyoctopus we help out with any questions & Co-op runs. My Discord: discord.gg/hycJN5j has an amazing community to help with any other questions or just a great place to hang out.
You may not know what AKA means (and should probably stop trying to use it), and I don't know why you keep saying "booses" instead of "boost", but you sure do know your way around this convoluted equipment system. Thanks for the tips my guy, much appreciated : )
Struggled to beat this with lvl 70 characters but I didn't know about all the mid maxing of stats until this video. Thank you for the in-depth analysis! was able to beat her finally
One extra advice. You can time Healing Esuna (Fog) so that if you cast it right before Shiva hits you with fog, it does the normal 3 ATB and heals your target after they get the Fog status. Recommended to do this to whoever your defogger is if full magic team or in my case, I did 2 physical DPS and 1 magic DPS so only had to time it to heal my one magic user (Aerith).
Just wanted to say thank you for putting out these guide videos to help with unlocking the stronger summons. I had to tweak mine slightly for weapons available, but your materia and character setup worked perfectly. Keep at it!
Now that we have defaith magic fights that aren't immune 2 it have become much easier. Thanks again octo for all the amazing guides you keep putting out!!
Thanks for the guide, I used Aerith (Level 58), Red XIII (Level 58), and Zack (Level 61) to finally beat Shiva on Very Hard. Looking forward to using Diamond Dust! =)
Commentary on this game is either about stuff I already know or stuff I can't do. At least with this I get to dream about possibilities, however unlikely.
Finally broke down and went looking for a guide...going by numbers I should have stomped her flat ages ago...but best I've managed is getting her down to 1/4 life before she casts a second Diamond Dust and wipes me out. Gonna go look into how to beat the last chapter that came out for the First Soldier section too..same story there, going by numbers should be easy...wiped every time EDIT: As this vid is showing me, I've been relying on Auto Equip waaaaaay too much. Pity you can't tell it to auto equip based on Phys Attack or Magic Attack or stuff like that for lazy folks like me
Did this fight without using magic atk down, at 146k as F2P. My team was Cloud\Tifa (Summer outfit with her healing weapon) \Sephiroth. Esuna Fog, Fire Breach materia, Ifrit (Hellfire) is essential for this, Tifa's Somersault for the debuff + her 4 atb AOE heals when needed, we're essential for my runs. Casting fire breach before Tifa's Somersault into Hellfire will help dealing alot of damage to Shiva. Good luck everyone.
Your guide should start with this: "If you don't have AoE healing, you can't use this guide. healing matera is too slow and takes up too much matera slots".
One thing if i may, those ifrit weapon are also really good for this fight since they boost your ice resistance ( to level 3 with a level 90 weapon, 80 is also totally fine ). The ifrit weapon from zack gives ice resist + HP, wich is the perfect combo for most of the character you'll be using, and the glenn one gives ATK instead of HP, wich is also great for the character that have the most HP, since you're still getting a ton of ice resist.
My guess is just good patience on pulls. I'm also mostly f2p ( I bought season pass) and I have a lot of fairly decent weapons. It's all luck I'm afraid
I sold my Defaith materia by accident, and now it's impossible for me to beat Shiva in Very Hard mode, or even the last two events in the EX 2 phase. It's silly that it's so important and you can't get it anywhere...
In the last phase if she turns veil into magic boost she loose her fire protection so keep ifrit and go for it during cast DD is the last chance to do it.
Man they must have buffed the second phase because I’m following this nearly to the T and I’m dead right after taking out the prince, if not before then. I’m switching to defense only to heal, in semi, full speed. Like it seems as though it’s going well until that second phase and, well… no, no it’s not going well.😅
Hi smellyoctopus! Can u do a Guide or vive advice in ifrit very hard? I want to complete it so i get hellfire, but The first wave literally One shots me all 3 characters, i guess ir i pass this wave i might succes but idk. Thanks!
My only "fire" character, is Tifa's Attack down weapon, lol. My poor Red is useless Q.Q My current plan though IS Sephiroth, Tifa, Aerith. But I got a lot of work before this will be viable, lol. MAtk Down / Heal on Tifa w/ Defog Heal / Def/MDef buff on Aerith w/ Defog Ice sword for lack of better option + MDef down on Sephiroth will be my best chance I think w/ Defaith Alternatively I DO have Lucia. But I think Tifa will probably be better for me. That being said, I doubt i'm beating VH Shiva before the mako reactor event ends. xD I also doubt i'll be able to beat Reno (But I should be okay against Red Dragon with a bit more building.) So i'mma focus my efforts elsewhere and just not stress it. o,,o
@@goenawanarief4027 think it's the first mission in the last chapter, defaith and debrave are in it, one behind a locked door and another to the south it's the only one with a full crossroad.
@@goenawanarief4027 it's the one where you pick up the key first and go to the left, the locked door that the key is used for is where you keep going left then there's another when you go down at the cross road and to finish the dungeon you go up
Im sitting right at 130k with nearly identical stats as he does on all three and I’m still getting smoked like a Virginia Slim in the second phase. This really sucks 🤣
That might be impossible probably. Because your dps will be healing instead of damage, if u don't do enough damage u lose because u can't bring down the orange bar fast enough. AoE is needed specially if your power is significantly lower than the recommended.
Sadly AoE heals is pretty much a requirement that's why Fairy Tale was THE reroll weapon for the game. Even other content creators like Payneblade has it
I wish someone did this with barret... idgaf about red and I'm not building him for some niche bs ... i'lll just wait until we get a better solution on a future banner
actually I am running Barret for this his main wep is Heavy Houser and Secondary is Solid Bazooka the MATK down with his LB being the Mindblown for PDEF/MDEF Down. His Materias are Fire Healing Esuna (Fog) and a ruin/stat stick materia
that wave is annoying try to make sure your ai targets one bomb then the saghin then then the last bomb that's my best way going through that wave. You can lock on target by clicking on them
If you want to catch any of my livestreams over at Twitch: www.twitch.tv/smellyoctopus we help out with any questions & Co-op runs.
My Discord: discord.gg/hycJN5j has an amazing community to help with any other questions or just a great place to hang out.
You may not know what AKA means (and should probably stop trying to use it), and I don't know why you keep saying "booses" instead of "boost", but you sure do know your way around this convoluted equipment system. Thanks for the tips my guy, much appreciated : )
Struggled to beat this with lvl 70 characters but I didn't know about all the mid maxing of stats until this video. Thank you for the in-depth analysis! was able to beat her finally
thank you for showing your stats that all people need to understand how to beat hard bosses wish more people did this
One extra advice. You can time Healing Esuna (Fog) so that if you cast it right before Shiva hits you with fog, it does the normal 3 ATB and heals your target after they get the Fog status. Recommended to do this to whoever your defogger is if full magic team or in my case, I did 2 physical DPS and 1 magic DPS so only had to time it to heal my one magic user (Aerith).
Just wanted to say thank you for putting out these guide videos to help with unlocking the stronger summons. I had to tweak mine slightly for weapons available, but your materia and character setup worked perfectly. Keep at it!
Now that we have defaith magic fights that aren't immune 2 it have become much easier. Thanks again octo for all the amazing guides you keep putting out!!
Thanks for the guide. It took me a few tries and swapping things, but controlling Aerith to heal was a huge key to the success.
Thanks for the guide, I used Aerith (Level 58), Red XIII (Level 58), and Zack (Level 61) to finally beat Shiva on Very Hard. Looking forward to using Diamond Dust! =)
Commentary on this game is either about stuff I already know or stuff I can't do. At least with this I get to dream about possibilities, however unlikely.
guys no rush if you cant beat it yet, you'll get stronger patients is key
Finally broke down and went looking for a guide...going by numbers I should have stomped her flat ages ago...but best I've managed is getting her down to 1/4 life before she casts a second Diamond Dust and wipes me out. Gonna go look into how to beat the last chapter that came out for the First Soldier section too..same story there, going by numbers should be easy...wiped every time EDIT: As this vid is showing me, I've been relying on Auto Equip waaaaaay too much. Pity you can't tell it to auto equip based on Phys Attack or Magic Attack or stuff like that for lazy folks like me
Yea auto equip is not optimized in this games sadly. It's best to create a team for each element and have those saved.
@@SmellyOctopus Just using your set up here with auto attack had me steamrolling Shiva like it was easy mode. So again, thanks for the guide!
Just got Ifrit VH done so this is my next thing to tackle.
Man.. I finally defeat her thanks for the advices. I can't believe she was harder than Ramuh. I really was scratching my head😂
Congrats! Yea she is definitely more of a strategy than Ramuhs DPS race.
You are amazing !
Thank you for your work ! 🙏
I need F2P guide for Very Hard Ramuh! It's so f-ing hard to deal enough damage to stop his bar from growing and once it fills, he one shots you.
Did this fight without using magic atk down, at 146k as F2P.
My team was Cloud\Tifa (Summer outfit with her healing weapon) \Sephiroth.
Esuna Fog, Fire Breach materia, Ifrit (Hellfire) is essential for this, Tifa's Somersault for the debuff + her 4 atb AOE heals when needed, we're essential for my runs.
Casting fire breach before Tifa's Somersault into Hellfire will help dealing alot of damage to Shiva.
Good luck everyone.
Worth noting is Sled Fang has a much faster charge than Lucia, so Lucia's LB won't be up all the time when needed.
Your guide should start with this: "If you don't have AoE healing, you can't use this guide. healing matera is too slow and takes up too much matera slots".
One thing if i may, those ifrit weapon are also really good for this fight since they boost your ice resistance ( to level 3 with a level 90 weapon, 80 is also totally fine ). The ifrit weapon from zack gives ice resist + HP, wich is the perfect combo for most of the character you'll be using, and the glenn one gives ATK instead of HP, wich is also great for the character that have the most HP, since you're still getting a ton of ice resist.
How do you have so many upgraded weapons? Just luck on pulls or is there a way to farm wep pieces?
My guess is just good patience on pulls. I'm also mostly f2p ( I bought season pass) and I have a lot of fairly decent weapons.
It's all luck I'm afraid
Very usefull for the current dungeon event !
Do you recommend fire breach? I’m thinking to use Barret and have the fire breach on him rather than the de faith needed for Red
I sold my Defaith materia by accident, and now it's impossible for me to beat Shiva in Very Hard mode, or even the last two events in the EX 2 phase. It's silly that it's so important and you can't get it anywhere...
In the last phase if she turns veil into magic boost she loose her fire protection so keep ifrit and go for it during cast DD is the last chance to do it.
Man they must have buffed the second phase because I’m following this nearly to the T and I’m dead right after taking out the prince, if not before then.
I’m switching to defense only to heal, in semi, full speed. Like it seems as though it’s going well until that second phase and, well… no, no it’s not going well.😅
I was able to do this F2P with just defaith and esuna fog
I tryed few times, at some point she start with ice age full bar and even with matk down she did 16k yo my team.
do you think you can do one for the very hard ones for Ifrit i still cant do the one to get hellfire?
Yea for sure! Planning to make for all 3.
I did it with Zack instead of sephiroth, his weapon was basically and with then ifrit co op mine even went 7+ levels over pink 5*
Hi smellyoctopus!
Can u do a Guide or vive advice in ifrit very hard? I want to complete it so i get hellfire, but The first wave literally One shots me all 3 characters, i guess ir i pass this wave i might succes but idk.
Thanks!
Gave me ideas pretty tuff without defaith.
It's so hard for me and u do it all so easy 😅
Nice octo, now you only need to slap that old grandpa Ramuh hell yeah!
My only "fire" character, is Tifa's Attack down weapon, lol.
My poor Red is useless Q.Q
My current plan though IS Sephiroth, Tifa, Aerith. But I got a lot of work before this will be viable, lol.
MAtk Down / Heal on Tifa w/ Defog
Heal / Def/MDef buff on Aerith w/ Defog
Ice sword for lack of better option + MDef down on Sephiroth will be my best chance I think w/ Defaith
Alternatively I DO have Lucia. But I think Tifa will probably be better for me.
That being said, I doubt i'm beating VH Shiva before the mako reactor event ends. xD I also doubt i'll be able to beat Reno (But I should be okay against Red Dragon with a bit more building.) So i'mma focus my efforts elsewhere and just not stress it. o,,o
It's good to have a replacement video, for when Octo's potato internet cuts his stream short 😉😆
Bro can you make a guide for EX I’m stuck on it
my attack is still not enough. will try later after getting more good weapon for stat
Kayser Sozai
I did it with Tifa, Cloud & Aerith at only 118k power, so guys its really possible, just play the mechanic well :)
Good vid no cap
You can do the first soldier quests to get more debrave and defaith I think too as I somehow have two debraves one star and two star.
what chapter please? I sold my debrave LOL
@@goenawanarief4027 think it's the first mission in the last chapter, defaith and debrave are in it, one behind a locked door and another to the south it's the only one with a full crossroad.
@@r4z0r84 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I will try looking for it
@@goenawanarief4027 it's the one where you pick up the key first and go to the left, the locked door that the key is used for is where you keep going left then there's another when you go down at the cross road and to finish the dungeon you go up
@@r4z0r84 there is debrave. THANK YOU. really. I will try reenter to see if it come out again or not
Shiva was a pain in the ass even at 175k BP 😂. Def the hardest by far.
Semi in 2x speed is crazy very little room for error
you can beat it but it's not worth to farm shiva memory here, it takes too long for f2p.
You want to beat it at least 1 time to get diamond dust, think.
Ive 150k damage and i go down in seconds against her. Think ill wait till character go to lv 80 or something lol
Im sitting right at 130k with nearly identical stats as he does on all three and I’m still getting smoked like a Virginia Slim in the second phase. This really sucks 🤣
Has to be an easier way than this? Seems incredibly difficult
If you're casual, probably better to just wait for better weapons to come out more specifically a fire weapon.
Elliott is best Chocobo!
I'm still getting errors 😫 1002
ramuh seems harder for me because he keeps one shotting me with judgement bolt, even with red xiii lb on him
Ramuh is 100% harder than Shiva thats for sure
Now do a guide without Aoe healing!
That might be impossible probably.
Because your dps will be healing instead of damage, if u don't do enough damage u lose because u can't bring down the orange bar fast enough.
AoE is needed specially if your power is significantly lower than the recommended.
Sadly AoE heals is pretty much a requirement that's why Fairy Tale was THE reroll weapon for the game.
Even other content creators like Payneblade has it
I wish someone did this with barret... idgaf about red and I'm not building him for some niche bs ... i'lll just wait until we get a better solution on a future banner
Barret with Bazooka weapon works for this. I mention his build in the video.
actually I am running Barret for this his main wep is Heavy Houser and Secondary is Solid Bazooka the MATK down with his LB being the Mindblown for PDEF/MDEF Down. His Materias are Fire Healing Esuna (Fog) and a ruin/stat stick materia
I cant pass the bombs haha
that wave is annoying try to make sure your ai targets one bomb then the saghin then then the last bomb that's my best way going through that wave. You can lock on target by clicking on them
your shiva is small