The SC-Speaker Maintenance

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @naabadaringmartin9960
    @naabadaringmartin9960 Год назад

    Hello I’m Daring from Ghana 🇬🇭 and I have been following you for some time now. I love 💕 your team and how you make the work lavish.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад

      Thank you! Glad you are able to get some good information from us!

  • @joelglaser5657
    @joelglaser5657 2 года назад +5

    I unloaded the truck just yesterday, to start on my own equipment maintenance. Pretty much the same steps as you did here, except I also have some cabinet dings to fix.
    Thanks for the link to the polarity tester. I need to purchase one of those. Between maintenance and buying more gadgets, it never ends! LOL
    Here's to a great year of awesome shows, Stacey and Bart!! Always look forward to your next video.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate your comments Joel....and to know that we can all share the maintenance pain! The tester is a nice tool to have. Perhaps not arguably needed as much for powered cabinets, but still provides assurance that everything is correct. For any system, I can see its importance in the field as it could identify issues that may exist within the signal chain to the cabinet.

  • @sound4uaudiovideorecording927
    @sound4uaudiovideorecording927 2 года назад

    That’s one thing I’m lacking in is maintenance. I have no work space to do the things you’ve shown in this video. Good on you for having a good work space for this type of maintenance.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, we do appreciate the heated/air space we have now. Wasn't always that way so we can sympathize with you.

  • @djbolamix8997
    @djbolamix8997 2 года назад +1

    preventive maintenance and always good ...
    even more so when it comes to audio, all care and little!
    That's why these boxes have a very velvety medium!
    these drives make all the difference,,,!
    and the phase matching is very coherent in the relationship between speaker and driver.
    very good !

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +2

      I have said it before in other videos that these cabinets absolutely make our job easier. They may not be the loudest, but they have shined in so many other ways. Their design truly makes it easier to provide a mix that provides that smooth clarity which is commonly lacking in other cabinets.

  • @MrGarfield
    @MrGarfield 2 года назад +4

    Hi there Bart, Nice video, just a small comment at 02:36 you are trying to remove the cover by tapping on it, but you could easy put your hand behind it to push it out 🙂
    The same maintenance is useful for amps dusty amps the dust can cause big troubles when it get a bit wet ( condensation )

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +2

      Ha! you are correct! I will blame it on "demo vision"....at least you know we are keeping it real!

  • @nscaledelights
    @nscaledelights Год назад

    Thanks again for your enlightening video who knew you had to maintain speakers certainly not me being a none professional sound person. This has given some motivation to do some research on some older speakers we have sitting around to see how bad they are. Keep up the great inspirational videos.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад

      Glad we could help. If anything, it’s not a bad thing to tinker and learn.

  • @TylerMarletteNY
    @TylerMarletteNY Год назад +3

    you should take a listen to the Rcf Hdl-6a, would be a great fit for you guys with way more versatility

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the info...we have heard a lot of good about the RCF line. We have mentioned in other posts that we would definitely look at all options if and when we would make a change. Currently, we are happy with how the CDL's are working for us. They are a very versatile cabinet. Just this past weekend, we did a show with 400-500 people outdoors and the next night 100 people indoors speaker on a stick and each night, it sounded great.

    • @soundguy01
      @soundguy01 5 месяцев назад

      They used to own an old-school EAW Rig. Some Ex employees from EAW came out with the Fulcrum Acoustics company. The older studiolive speakers were designed by someone from Fulcrum Acoustics. maybe that's why these folks have an almost full house of presonus gear ....IDK just a guess

  • @sutajielectronik6122
    @sutajielectronik6122 2 года назад +1

    Videonya sangat membantu dan dapat pelajaran baru👍👍 salam dari INDO

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Selamat datang! Kami sangat senang bahwa kami dapat membantu Anda! Terima kasih telah menonton!

  • @alberto038
    @alberto038 2 года назад

    Good morning, it's always good to do equipment maintenance.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +1

      If you take care of your equipment, it will take care of you!

  • @joseruiz3995
    @joseruiz3995 Год назад +3

    Guys once again thanks for your tips and suggestions on all topics related to live sound. You guys are just a great couple to watch. Your videos feel organic, and a really appreciate the attention to detail you guys have at setup. Great work like always! 😊 One question though, I’m on the hunt for new FOH speakers, debating between the CDL12P, the Bose F1 812 and the JBL PRX812. Any thoughts?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад

      Hi Jose - thank you for your thoughts and comments. We hope that we are able help you with our experiences with the CDL's with our videos, but we have no experience with the other two you mentioned.

  • @Richard1977
    @Richard1977 2 года назад +2

    Tip:
    -Stripped holes in plastic can be filled with 2-part epoxy and then redrilled in the appropriate size for the screw you want to use.
    -ALWAYS turn a screw counter clockwise so you can feel it 'slipping' into the previously cut thread before going clockwise.
    -Replace every standard nut possible with a locking nylon/nylock nut and/or add a drop of Loctite 243.
    -Candle wax will act as a lubricant in wood because of friction but also as a thread locker when cooled/solid again.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Great tips Richard- thanks for sharing!

    • @Richard1977
      @Richard1977 2 года назад

      @The Sound Couple
      No thanks!
      Just spreading the knowledge and love for music (for which we all do it)

  • @paolorussian1081
    @paolorussian1081 2 года назад

    Grazie, la pulizia va fatta sempre. Ottimi consigli. Thank you, cleaning must always be done. Great advice.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +1

      È sempre bello avere delle conferme nelle cose che facciamo. Grazie per il tuo commento!

  • @MichaelNatrin
    @MichaelNatrin 2 года назад

    Great video! Thanks for sharing your maintenance routine.

  • @TalentLe8159
    @TalentLe8159 2 года назад

    I had to do maintenance on my subs and tops and replaced the tweeters once and I didn’t like it but good work on maintenance!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      With systems we had in the past (passive), we always had spare drivers on hand to swap out. Since we have gone with powered, I think we have only had issue with one sub. Make sense that with powered speakers, the power and the drivers should be perfectly matched.

  • @soundguy01
    @soundguy01 5 месяцев назад

    @ 17:52 when you took the grill off I was surprised because it looks almost identical to the old rcf 4pro 8001-as ... looks like they "borrowed" the design

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  5 месяцев назад

      Not familiar with those cabinets...but if they did, it works for us!

  • @DeanKWilson
    @DeanKWilson 2 года назад +2

    The cold winds of winter and the hibernation of Minnesota natives has slowed the hectic gig schedule of The Sound Couple. In these days of downtime, Bart and Stacy turn their attention to tasks that a too-busy-schedule of gigs can sometimes supplant. And, we have the opportunity to view another important lesson for those of us who aspire to work toward the continuous improvement of our skills in professional production.
    Periodic preventive and corrective maintenance is a critical operation that is necessary in order to maintain the highest possible level of the quality assurance for any equipment or system. Bart gives us an excellent rundown of the preventive and corrective maintenance of his PreSous CDL 12 speakers and CDL 18 subs, as a representative of appropriate maintenance for any speaker. In summary:
    - Thoroughly inspect all exterior sides of the speaker
    - Check the snugness of exterior screws
    - Carefully remove the grills
    - Thoroughly inspect the interior of the speaker
    - Visually verify the integrity of each driver (speaker)
    - using low velocity air, remove dust from interior
    - carefully wipe down interior surfaces
    - Check the snugness of interior screws
    - Disengage the Digital Sound Processing (DSP)
    - Play known selection of music while listening for any anomalies
    - Check Polarity using Galaxy Audio CPTS Cricket Polarity Tester and finger pulse test
    - Use Tone Generator to verify crossover while listening for any anomalies
    - Clean grills
    - Carefully reassemble grills-screws snug, not too tight
    - Reengage the DSP
    - Play a known selection of music as a final test
    - Wipe down exterior of the cabinet
    While performing preventive and corrective maintenance is not as glamorous as mixing a gig, this attention to detail is an extremely important aspect of the overall commitment to excellence and professionalism that The Sound Couple so elegantly represents.
    As always, a giant “Thank You!” to Bart for sharing this important lesson with us.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +1

      Thank you Dean! You are next on the list of gear videos! It's fun to mix things up a bit even though we know that the gig videos are at the core of what we do. Crazy enough as it seems, even though the snow is feet deep now, we still have a back log of summer gigs to share with everyone. It is actually kind of fun to go back months later to create them...it's like, oh yeah, I forgot about that!

  • @ferrera2023
    @ferrera2023 Год назад

    Gracias, saludos desde Mendoza Argentina

  • @MrKricher
    @MrKricher 2 года назад +4

    I know it's important to do a visual inspection but it seems that the more you take off the grills and put them back on, the more the wood screws will loosen over time.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Hi Ken - that is a very valid consideration and that goes for the screw health as well. If we factor in the useful life of the cabinets we will likely not have a reason to open them again or the next time will likely be the last for us. These are at the core workhorses for us so it's important that we know they are working properly. Considering how they are used could be a factor in your decision whether or not to pop the covers. For example, a speaker that is used for AV speech events, I would say this maintenance is not necessary. We are dealing with less issues since we have gone with powered speakers.

    • @MrKricher
      @MrKricher 2 года назад +1

      @@thesoundcouple Yes and if I would have waited until the end of your video, I know you addressed some of this as you went through the process. Sorry that I jumped the gun.... It's a good reminder to NOT wait until the gig before knowing your gear. I really enjoy your videos.

    • @hezekiahcharles6754
      @hezekiahcharles6754 2 года назад

      @@thesoundcouple The way you handle your equipment, they will serve you for a long time. Just tightening the screws of the grill and back plate, will do.

    • @dustinthiessen
      @dustinthiessen 2 года назад +1

      This is why higher end PA will usually use threaded inserts, and machine screws rather than wood screws.

    • @soundguy01
      @soundguy01 5 месяцев назад

      @@dustinthiessen My powered speakers from 1996 have threaded inserts 🤣🤣🤣 Apparently that technology was lost over time or deemed not worth it even in 'high end' speakers

  • @duocountry7977
    @duocountry7977 2 года назад

    Sou do Brasil e já chegando dando o like!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Incrível! Obrigado por tomar o tempo para assistir!

  • @juliancohen766
    @juliancohen766 Год назад

    Thanks for your videos. I am impressed with your equipment and the speed at which you get so much done, with just two people. I am keen to purchase PreSonus gear. Can anyone share a link for the distributor. I am in South Africa.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад +1

      Glad you enjoy them! There are extremely helpful FB Groups or contact them....I am sure you can find someone that would be able to answer your question.

  • @danielstartek1497
    @danielstartek1497 Год назад

    Your jacks look really tight!

  • @DaftFader
    @DaftFader Год назад

    I'm so happy you went around with a screwdriver and tightened all the screws inside! That's a pet peeve of mine... I can not stand hearing the dam rattle of a single screw in a wall of speakers, it destroys the vibe for me and takes me out of the music completely, it sucks lol. It's one of the downsides of training your ears to listen to minute changes/differences in audio, when there's a noise 99% of people can't hear and won't be bothered by at all, it sticks out to you like a sore thumb. It took me like 5 minutes to get my mate to hear a screw loose in a festival stack once .. and part of me still thinks he just told me he could hear it to shut me up from going on about it xD.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад +1

      Appreciate you confirming my approaches....you can't find this sort of information in a manual!

    • @DaftFader
      @DaftFader Год назад

      @@thesoundcouple Some smaller, active, monitor style speakers use anti vibration epoxy on all the internal electronics of the built in amp and crossover etc. because speakers will eventually vibrate anything they can, that's attached, loose. Checking that screws are tight should be speaker maintenance 101 ... I don't get why more people don't think to check them as a habit tbh.

  • @michaelnjoroge5907
    @michaelnjoroge5907 2 года назад

    Hey guys, thank you for all the info I've learned so much ever since I started interacting with your channel, though some of equipment is hard to come by where am at, I have recently come to understand I have a passion for Sound systems, I just love the challenges that come with it, question: do you guys ever think of expanding? and how do you deal with scheduling conflicts? with love from Kenya

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Great question! No, we don't have any plans on expanding beyond what we do now. This is a side business for us and we both work day jobs. In years past, I pondered your question and struggled to manage it at times. I was juggling running sound and playing in a band and learned I couldn't do both. These days, our situation affords us to only take the gigs we are available to do. We also coordinate sometimes with others to cover each other when we can.

  • @zarkentertainmentdjaudiovi7388

    Hello Bart & Stacy the wonderful Sound couple.. I watch all your videos and love what you do … I have purchased 6 Presonus CDL10 .. Quick question.. When you stack 2 speakers on crank stand each side is main stage and use 2 as delay speakers on each side is main stage .. How do you configure the speaker setting 2 cabs on the set of 2 or 3 ?? Do you also configure all 3 in settings or just the bottom one with the actual XLR connection from board ??? Please advise

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад +1

      If we are understanding your question correctly, you are asking how we adjust the speaker DSP when we array them. The honest answer is we don't. With them stacked on the stands, they sound better to us if we leave them with 1 speaker per side setting. If we were to fly three of them, we would adjust the bottom cab likely by at least backing down the gain a bit.

    • @zarkentertainmentdjaudiovi7388
      @zarkentertainmentdjaudiovi7388 Год назад

      @@thesoundcouple Thank you for your reply , Sorry my question was a little confusing.. here is the setup.. total of 06 CDL 12P ,
      02 Speakers on each side of stage .. on Crank stands just like you do .. and 02 about 30 ft away on each side of the stage used as delay speakers. Should we setup at array in the DSP as 03 , OR 02 OR single speaker??

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад +1

      I think we were on the same page...we leave ours at single speakers regardless of the number we are using. That's just our preference. Would recommend you try the different settings to see what you prefer. The good thing is that whatever settings you choose, you can't hurt the speaker!@@zarkentertainmentdjaudiovi7388

  • @Ravi_Charran
    @Ravi_Charran Год назад

    Appreciate the video. What’s the tool kit you use to unscrew

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад

      If I recall, they were Torx screws. Sometimes finding the right tool can be the hardest part of the job!

  • @slamhan98
    @slamhan98 Год назад

    Thank you for your video. I'm sound guy in IL.
    Where did you buy stand and name? it is under the speaker.
    I think it is really useful.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching! This has been our most popular piece of gear that has been asked about. Our specific one has been discontinued, but here is a similar one :
      www.amazon.com/Yellow-Station-Outdoor-American-Plastics/dp/B097Q8Z9XV/ref=mp_s_a_1_19?crid=22F4P50YSGW0J&keywords=foldable+work+bench&pscroll=1&qid=1654970615&sprefix=foldable+work%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-19&wIndexMainSlot=29

    • @slamhan98
      @slamhan98 Год назад

      @@thesoundcouple Thank you for reply and link that you share.

  • @nelsontorres1694
    @nelsontorres1694 5 месяцев назад

    I like that table the speaker is on what brand is it.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  5 месяцев назад

      It is listed and linked in our About section of our channel - unfortunately at this time it is unavailable through Amazon.

  • @makingmusiconline2309
    @makingmusiconline2309 2 года назад

    Would using a strong magnet help with removing the grills from those speakers? They sell ones for magnet fishing that can pull 20kg or more, with an eyelet to attach a string to.

  • @dustinthiessen
    @dustinthiessen 2 года назад

    You ever pull the amp modules out, and clean them up? That would seem an important step to me, since that's going to likely be the most expensive, and more likely failure point on self powered speakers like these

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Hi Dustin - good idea. Didn't think about looking at those!

    • @dustinthiessen
      @dustinthiessen 2 года назад

      @@thesoundcouple happy to help 👍🏻 I’m sure it’s not as critical as with traditional amps that have intakes and filters to clean, but I’m sure dust and debris finds it’s way in still

  • @HulluJanne
    @HulluJanne 2 года назад

    It's potentially a problematic spot where a screw is driven straight to the enclosure material (MDF, birch/plywood, etc.). The screw should have coarse threads and the screw hole should be pre-drilled at smaller diameter, ideally with some kind of hardening agent (maybe epoxy) inside the hole, or glue on the screw itself. Because once you loosen a screw that is just tightened in to the material (be it wood, fiber board, plastic), it can never be tightened as good as originally. And I bet not many manufacturers are pre-drilling anything if it can be just screwed in.
    I just bought a (cheap!) pair of EAW VR62's, from 2006 and they had really small fine threaded screws holding the front grill. Some of the holes were already so loose that there was pretty much no grip on the threads. So I tried to add some adhesive stuff inside the holes. Ideally those holes would have some sort of threaded insert in them, but that would make the speakers a bit heavier and quite a bit more pricey because the added steps in manufacturing. I was a bit surprised to see that EAW went with drive-in nuts for all the speakers and rear panel. Also for the mounting bracket holes, though brackets were missing and there were just open screw holes on both ends of the enclosure. And three of the four 1/4" drive-in nuts had come loose and dropped inside the enclosure. So I went and replaced them with smaller ones and capped the holes with some wide headed torx screws I had lying around. Then I changed the electrolyte type capacitors on the xovers to some poly stuff with matching values, which I happened to have. After that I added quite a lot of damping material, as the cabinets are sealed. Originally they sounded quite thin and it seemed they weren't really pushed in their lifetime, so I took the mids out and gave them a slight run-in with low frequency sine tones at around 10-40W (per driver). I think I should do quite a bit more of that, as they have really tight spiders. They clearly are not meant for anything under 70ish Hz (by the manufacturer), but testing them on my small concrete living room they do go way lower, but only with quite a bit of shelf EQ'ing. The mids have more of a hifi-speaker looks, with rubber surround and seemingly carbon fiber cones. I think I may use them as monitors on DJ gigs or maybe as tops in smaller places.

  • @kristergreen931
    @kristergreen931 2 года назад

    Maintence is important do, but i know a soundcompany in my town in Sweden. They never do any maintence on their pa systems. It is a bit irritating when you have fix the pa you hired before the show starts. By the way that fasetester was interesting. Were did you get this?
    Finally I can say that it always interesting to see your youtube films.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Krister. I think you hit on why I find maintenance important because I used to run into unkept systems frequently in clubs and it was really frustrating to deal with. We linked to the tester in the description...thanks for watching!

  • @osayukiomoruyi4218
    @osayukiomoruyi4218 2 года назад

    Hello. What's the cost of hiring your sound for an event. From Nigeria

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Our rates vary and it's generally presented as an offer from the band for us to accept. We do have some basic parameters for what we charge for the type of event.

  • @CarlosOrtiz-wv8pw
    @CarlosOrtiz-wv8pw 2 года назад

    Awesome routine. Where are you guys from?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      We are from Minneapolis, MN

    • @CarlosOrtiz-wv8pw
      @CarlosOrtiz-wv8pw 2 года назад

      @@thesoundcouple Dang it, you're far. I wish you were in West Texas.

  • @naabadaringmartin9960
    @naabadaringmartin9960 Год назад

    I will be glad to join the team if I get the opportunity 😊

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад

      I wish we could say we are growing, but for now it's just Stacy and me!

  • @mungno8236
    @mungno8236 2 года назад

    Can u teach me behringer x32 producer how to mix , I don't known in our church

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      We would suggest checking out other channels on RUclips for this. @DrewBrashler, for example, has provided us with a wealth of knowledge on the X32 platform!

  • @sesburada
    @sesburada 2 года назад +1

    After cleaning with a wet cloth, if you wipe it with car dashboard cream, the paint will be like the first day 🤘

  • @galaktika177
    @galaktika177 2 года назад

    Как звук проходит через железо?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      v\\Можете ли вы задать свой вопрос еще раз, используя другие слова? Google не переводил на английский так, как это имело смысл. Спасибо!

    • @galaktika177
      @galaktika177 2 года назад

      @@thesoundcouple The speaker is covered with an iron sheet. How does sound travel through an iron sheet?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      @@galaktika177 Thank you for the clarification! Responding in English as you responded in English...thank you! This is how the speaker is designed and how the cabinet directs sound. You may find the following video of interest as the actual product designer discuss's the cabinet: ruclips.net/video/bwbhxfykoBA/видео.html

    • @galaktika177
      @galaktika177 2 года назад

      @@thesoundcouple Спасибо. Такой технологии я не видел

  • @safarizantudin1223
    @safarizantudin1223 2 года назад

    i'm here...🤗

  • @NoizTheDj
    @NoizTheDj 10 месяцев назад

    Why didn’t you just push the grill out from behind by reaching in from the other side

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Yes...that's a really good point!

  • @ajithk.c7418
    @ajithk.c7418 Год назад

    Can i get a job? My passion💕

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Год назад

      There are many opportunities available...sometimes it can be tough to find who and where, but the common story is that once you find the "in", there is much work to be had!

  • @jakoblindekilde5832
    @jakoblindekilde5832 2 года назад

    And a black permanent ink pen to hide scratches...

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  2 года назад

      Yep! Working on that right now and going over them with some Armor All - they are looking really nice!