Thank you Red. We appreciate you filming these things. I had a UP guy who was at a derailment site here on the Phoenix line south of Coolidge, tell me they write the land owner a generous check immediately to close out the derailment as quickly as possible and move on.
Excellent video Red. People were talking about the derailment on Facebook, but to see pictures and video really puts it in perspective. This train went way off the rails. Thanks.
Hello Red, that looks like an accident and a lot of clean-up work. I hope that no one was hurt. Very interesting video, thank you for the video and your work. I hope you have a nice day and best regards, Wolfgang
UP having a difficult time keeping them on the rails. About 30 container cars of an eastbound left the rails just east of Glidden couple of weeks ago. Thanks for the outstanding drone work Red!
It's long overdue for the FRA to curtain the length of these trains.. Even though I'm a rail fan like everyone else on this channel, and I like to see long trains, but I'm also practical too. Ten mile long train is ridiculous!!!!
Thanks for the great views. With corn prices fluctuating lately, hopefully the farmer gets good compensation. The Cargill plant in Eddyville mainly makes corn syrup and cattle feed, not ethanol.
Excellent overview of the disaster, Red! Thank you for the commentary and excellent scoping in on the reconstruction efforts. Feel bad for the farmers. Thankfully, it wasn't a train load of , say, vinyl chloride; they might have had a second East Palestine, OH on their hands. At least coal is relatively benign. Thanks for posting.
Class I Railroads realize there is an Issue after an Expensive Derailment. Sometimes that doesn’t even turn the Light ON. Thanks for the coverage, Red. 👍
Red! I love your Iowa Train Vidros, whether derailments like here…. Or flyin through turnouts (can you do more), you r vids and narration are top notch! Thanks for taking the time and sharing!
Thanks for showing how bad it got. Sad thing is checked local news and they said, "NO" cars over turned, sure looks like more than few did. Thanks for showing the truth and how big the mess was. Keep up the great videos and will be watching as always. Love trains and growing up next to pair of tracks just like these was great. Got to meet many train engineers/conductors and track workers. I think as I mentioned before, my grandmother would feed them when stopped next to property and always acknowledged us. MY best was at 8 yrs. of age, and engineering in our factory a block away from home called me up and had me work the controls. Bet that doesn't happen nowadays.
@brianmassey5897 You're welcome Brian! Yeah Grandma's meals couldn't have hurt relations with the crews. I'm sure they like some interaction after being in those cabs so long.
@@redsiowatrainvideos6645 They had acknowledged they loved when got stopped close for that reason. Sure miss living next to tracks. When first moved away, took forever to get to sleep. We lived as close as one could get to the track and so sound and vibration over 20yrs you get used to something. Again, keep up the great videos.
Great stuff Red!! Looks like they got lucky and didn't take the signal posts down? Check out the amount of tension on that last steel transmission line pole (bowed).
That looks really bad, i bet it was going pretty fast too. This will be a costly derailment. Great pictures Red it will be a while to clear this mess up, keep us posted! ❤😊👍
Red, you was talking about what they was gonna do with all of that Coal that stacked up on side of the track, they don’t let them bury it anymore. They have to haul every bit of that out of there and they can’t salvage it because it’s got ballast mixed in with it and what they can’t load it will be scattered out, downside the railroad but anyway I just thought you might wanna know that I’ve got a bunch of friends that works for Norfolk Southern and they used to do the same thing they used to bury it but they won’t let them do that no more but anyway, my friend another awesome video you try to stay cool and hydrated out there and I bet that farmer is coming out, smelling like a rose, but you stay safe out there my friend and watch your back and we’ll see you on the next one
@timmyfrierson2684 Thanks for the information Timmy! I heard that some coal is buried around Montour from an old derailment. Yeah I'll bet the farmer was reimbursed quite well. That corn was looking really good otherwise👍
Not surprised one bit. I used to be a carman for UP. They dont inspect shit on the WI coal trains. UP got rid of mechanical employees years ago, and now count on train crews to do the required air brake inspections. (N Platte yard does a mechanical inspection when the empties head west, and then reloads and makes the trip all the way back east to the power plants.)
Dang! That must have been a very violent event in multiple stages judging from the track damage and where the cars ended up. I hope nobody got hurt. It will be interesting to see what the NTSB finds out. Thanks for sharing, Red 👍🤙
Those wires reminded me of what just happened in New Orleans. A Mylar aluminum coated balloon landed in a substation and tripped off the power to the main water plant. Now they have issued a boil water advisory for the entire city. Luckily, I am across Lake Pontchartrain with well water, and back up propane powered generators for hurricanes. Murphy's Law strikes again. Let's hope none land in the substation feeding the Superdome during the Superbowl next year. Half the lights went out during the last Superbowl they held here. Although the delay did improve the second half of the game.
You have an interesting cadence on "derailed." To me, a derail (DEE-rail) is the switch or device that attaches to the rails to protect a mainline which will intentionally derail (duh-RAIL) anything that might wonder loose.
Nice coverage Red. I think when the Railroads were being built they had like 200 foot right away, I am thinking some of that corn is on Railroad property. Hope you get back out there and show us how it’s going.
The single track line curving off to the left is the Oskaloosa Sub. The East Marshall crossovers off to the right. Most of these views are facing northwest. There's an AEI reader at the crossovers.
I thought you made good use of your drone as it passed over the accident area. It was interesting to see the patterns of corn damage. Regards, Steve. UK
I am surprised they are moving so slowly with the loss of income on this route if it is a mainline. I realize it is a complex process. Seems like it could be a lot more efficient and timely. Maybe it is not a high volume route. Thank you for the video!
Wish I would of emailed you. I heard pretty early about it. Great coverage. Thank goodness it didn't happen in montour. Near your place. It's got to be backing tons of trains up. Perhaps some busy videos later...thank you red. Do u mind if I share this video
@davidsnider1703 Thanks David S! My Dad sent me a text about it early but of course it didn't go through. Maybe I can catch them putting the switches back in the crossover. Just straight track for now. Sharing it's fine👍
@gyro65 Yep coal cars used to be steel. Aluminum ones allow for more product per car Downfall of aluminum cars would be recovery after derailment. Steel ones didn't tear apart as bad.
Extra heavy cars need extra wheels to spread the weight or heavier rail or large diameter wheels. John. G. Kneiling P.E. Consulting Engineer and Professional Iconoclast was right about what he wrote of. Looks like these modern day railroad companies run by hedge fund manager types are willing to take derailments over safe operations.
It also falls on the Federal Railroad Administration to mandate strict tough coal hopper car manufacturing by the rail car builders the as they did on tank cars..... Does anyone know what caused this derailment?
The rail road not in a hurry to get the land cleaned up.. I sure hope the farmer dosen't have to sue the rail road for damages and clean up costs on his land!
80's for temperature is a lot better then the teens with the wind blowing. I worked a derailment out near Carroll one winter. It wasn't fun. The excavators with the hydraulic clamps for moving panels sure speeds things up.
As a retired UP employee and working a lot of derailments and MOW employee , it looks like they derailed on a double crossover wiping out both switches and a big signal tower . Tie gang had been working through there and with the temperature being so high that could have been a factor as well . They have to consider the temperature and atmospheric conditions and adjust for rail expansion cutting out some rail if needed . I counted over 40 cars give or take a few . Derail clean up crew scattered the coal cars a lot father than needed . The coal will have to be cleaned up and removed . Hope the farmer is charging per square in of his farm land to Union Pacific . I worked a derailment in North Arkansas , my headquarters while working for UP , and the railroad wouldn't give the farmer whose property was on both sides of the rail line . When the railroad officials arrived at the derailment the farmer was standing in the middle of his road waiting for them . He negotiated a fair deal for him but not so for the railroad . He charged by the square inch of access . I arrived with portable light plants and was told to stay in the tracks of the derail dozers and don't dare get onto the farmers property . I had worked a lot in the area and had a key to get down to the tracks when my tamping equipment was in the area . The farmer wasn't mad at us MOW employees and was cool with us doing our job . The farmers son rode with me and was telling me the best path to take to get as close to the derailment site as possible . He told me to cut across the field and I heard officials screaming at me to stop . We both got out and the son told them he was directing me and it was ok . He told me the deal his father made with the railroad and it was a very sweet deal . Those used crossties along his property that he railroad wouldn't give him cost the railroad a hell of a lot of money several months later . I've never seen derailment dozers having to be guided in their movements like they did at that derailment . I also saw derailment clean up crews have to travel their equipment almost 10 miles down the railroad track to get on site because land owners would not allow them on their property . In turn I was allowed passage as we had always been friendly and respected land owners in the past . On this derailment the railroad will straight rail the track to get traffic moving and will come back soon to set switch panels to get the crossover back in service . Seeing the switch gang prepping for the new signal tower and new switches is a lot easier work now than later . UP doesn't care about anything other than running trains and keeping the railroad and equipment doesn't seem to be in their interest , just make the stock holders happy . That's a bunch of bull . Thanks for allowing me to comment Red .
@25vrd48 You're welcome D Vint! Thanks for sharing some of your experiences. My Dad retired from the UP in 2011. He also did derailment recoveries along with figuring out the cause. He told me the same thing about straight track for now and bring the switches back in later. Looks almost like the farmer may have chopped the corn. That's the second derailment along that line in one week.
@@redsiowatrainvideos6645 Class 1 railroads are having a lot of problems lately , bad decisions by management is costing them now . Thanks for the reply Red . I'll be looking for a follow up video if you get a chance to post one .
they had a few dozen cars with the dpu in the mtown yard that just moved yesterday (Tuesday) I noticed....ironically this is the same area where the IM derailment was several years ago...
That derailment messed up the mainline and the farm fields nearby. I agree with you, Red, that this was a double WEPX loaded coal train. May guess is that forward part of the train continued to its destination and that the part of the train after the derailed cars is sitting in the Marshalltown Rail Yard waiting for motive power to move the train eastward after the tracks are put back in shape. From your excellent drone footage, it looks like the Maintenance of Way crews are going to be busy with this cleanup. You are posting this video two days after you made this video, has there been any news about a cause for the derailment? Thank you for pointing out the former Minneapolis & St. Louis Railroad Oskaloosa Subdivision trackage going off to the left of the mainline. I was wondering what that trackage was when it first came into view. You mentioned that this was the second Union Pacific derailment within a week on this mainline. Where was the first derailment? (Posted 7 August 2024 at 1825 CDT.)
@thomasmackowiak Thanks Thomas! Haven't heard a cause yet. Looks like it derailed at the crossover. They will put straight track in and do the crossover later. Last week a stack train derailed outside of Glidden.
Coal buckets, stick rails make for an accident waiting to happen, 😮 oh wait!!! It did!!! That is probably an issue of a broken wheel and hi speed!!! What a mess!!! I remember coal buckets dumping on the Erie-Buffalo run when I was a kid 60+ years ago… and it seem to take days to get one line open on a 2 track sub and using a slow order. There was only one time I remember a derailment with a whole bunch of automobiles on board… that I bet was expensive for the Nickelplate !!! Keep up the good work 73’s DE N2JYG
@franklinwerren7684 Sure thing Frankin! Looks like the train derailed at the xover switches. Speed limit on loaded coal is 40mph there. Broken wheel sounds pretty likely.
Wow. What a mess. I counted about 31 coal hoppers. Was any power off the rails? Great video, as always, Red. (On the positive side, the drought's sure over. Corn looks amazing!)
Are those wpex cars? That train usually rolls through my town outside chicago headed to WI. Wpex being wi power & electric naturally. I wonder how many cars they have or if theyll have to scrounge up some leasers in the meantime. But if i see new wpex cars in the future, ill know why lol
@plisskenationbackfromthede3657 The Wisconsin public service power plants (Weston and green bay) used the WPSX cars, and We energies power plants (Oak Creek and Pleasant Prairie) used the WEPX cars... both utilities are now owned by the Wisconsin energy group, so they now share all of the reporting marks. Also, both the Green Bay and Pleasant Prairie power plants are now gone.
What a mess the farmer has to be so happy. Reimbursement has to go beyond crop value I would think does anyone know for sure how that works? As far as a cargo to lose probably about as close to best case scenario dollar wise.
@kurtzbradley From what I've heard the railroads are pretty generous with land owners. Getting permission to go on the land would be one of the first steps.
Luckily it was just coal. Hopefully the farmer gets a payout for crop loss. Where I’m from when a coal train derailed they’d just clean up the wrecked cars and allow people to pick up coal and use it for their stoves. As it was all an insurance write off
I don't think that's just coal. See how brown it is ? They make these pellets now with coal and vermiculite er something. That's not good fertilizer I don't think.
Nice to see they are still using Atlas Snap-Track pieces.
Thank you Red. We appreciate you filming these things.
I had a UP guy who was at a derailment site here on the Phoenix line south of Coolidge, tell me they write the land owner a generous check immediately to close out the derailment as quickly as possible and move on.
@kenn5894 You're welcome Ken! Definitely want to keep the land owners happy in that situation👍
Thanks for an informative video Red. With the price of corn very low the farmer might make out better if the railroad paid for the whole field.
@ajkruschke You're welcome Alden! You're probably right about the corn. It sure does look good this year though.
Excellent video Red. People were talking about the derailment on Facebook, but to see pictures and video really puts it in perspective. This train went way off the rails. Thanks.
@tonyjanney1654 You're welcome Tony!
Thank you for the spectacular aerial view of the derailment. What a mess! Thank goodness there were no injuries in this terrible accident! 😃😃😃😃❤❤❤❤
@garymiller5937 You're welcome Gary!
@@redsiowatrainvideos6645 😃😃😃
Hello Red, that looks like an accident and a lot of clean-up work. I hope that no one was hurt. Very interesting video, thank you for the video and your work. I hope you have a nice day and best regards, Wolfgang
@wolfgangpfeilergartenbahnd6530 Yo Wolfgang! No injuries were reported. Looks like the cornfield took a pretty good hit though!
@@redsiowatrainvideos6645 Hi Red, I see the same thing with the cornfield, there will probably be less popcorn there.😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
UP having a difficult time keeping them on the rails. About 30 container cars of an eastbound left the rails just east of Glidden couple of weeks ago. Thanks for the outstanding drone work Red!
@michaelbuss5731 You're welcome Michael! I heard about the derailment there but wasn't up for the drive. Two derailments in one week!
It's long overdue for the FRA to curtain the length of these trains.. Even though I'm a rail fan like everyone else on this channel, and I like to see long trains, but I'm also practical too. Ten mile long train is ridiculous!!!!
Thanks for the great views. With corn prices fluctuating lately, hopefully the farmer gets good compensation. The Cargill plant in Eddyville mainly makes corn syrup and cattle feed, not ethanol.
@trainmanj You're welcome trainmanj!
Excellent overview of the disaster, Red! Thank you for the commentary and excellent scoping in on the reconstruction efforts. Feel bad for the farmers. Thankfully, it wasn't a train load of , say, vinyl chloride; they might have had a second East Palestine, OH on their hands. At least coal is relatively benign. Thanks for posting.
@jacktaggart2489 You're welcome Jack! In the old days they would bury the coal. Not sure what their policies are today.
Class I Railroads realize there is an Issue after an Expensive Derailment. Sometimes that doesn’t even turn the Light ON. Thanks for the coverage, Red. 👍
@kens.3729 You're welcome Ken!
Tbere will never be a time of zero derailments. Fact of life in the business…
You should find out what caused it first before you make assumptions.
Red! I love your Iowa Train Vidros, whether derailments like here…. Or flyin through turnouts (can you do more), you r vids and narration are top notch! Thanks for taking the time and sharing!
@markiewodi3371 You're welcome Markie! Pretty rare to catch a derailment.They clean them up pretty quick!
Thanks for showing how bad it got. Sad thing is checked local news and they said, "NO" cars over turned, sure looks like more than few did. Thanks for showing the truth and how big the mess was. Keep up the great videos and will be watching as always. Love trains and growing up next to pair of tracks just like these was great. Got to meet many train engineers/conductors and track workers. I think as I mentioned before, my grandmother would feed them when stopped next to property and always acknowledged us. MY best was at 8 yrs. of age, and engineering in our factory a block away from home called me up and had me work the controls. Bet that doesn't happen nowadays.
@brianmassey5897 You're welcome Brian! Yeah Grandma's meals couldn't have hurt relations with the crews. I'm sure they like some interaction after being in those cabs so long.
@@redsiowatrainvideos6645 They had acknowledged they loved when got stopped close for that reason. Sure miss living next to tracks. When first moved away, took forever to get to sleep. We lived as close as one could get to the track and so sound and vibration over 20yrs you get used to something. Again, keep up the great videos.
Thanks for posting Red. Looks like a good time for a corn roast using coal 😆.
@viksaini You're welcome Vic!
Great stuff Red!! Looks like they got lucky and didn't take the signal posts down? Check out the amount of tension on that last steel transmission line pole (bowed).
@danlowe8684 Thanks Dan! They sure did tear up the switches for the crossovers.
That looks really bad, i bet it was going pretty fast too. This will be a costly derailment. Great pictures Red it will be a while to clear this mess up, keep us posted! ❤😊👍
@Carolb66 Thanks Carol!
Hello Red . Wow that’s a mess to clean up nice drone 👍🏻😎Robin out
@@robinroberts3335 Yo Robin! A mountain of coal to clean up.
Excellent video, likes from me
@@ЛЬВИНИ Thanks!
Red, you was talking about what they was gonna do with all of that Coal that stacked up on side of the track, they don’t let them bury it anymore. They have to haul every bit of that out of there and they can’t salvage it because it’s got ballast mixed in with it and what they can’t load it will be scattered out, downside the railroad but anyway I just thought you might wanna know that I’ve got a bunch of friends that works for Norfolk Southern and they used to do the same thing they used to bury it but they won’t let them do that no more but anyway, my friend another awesome video you try to stay cool and hydrated out there and I bet that farmer is coming out, smelling like a rose, but you stay safe out there my friend and watch your back and we’ll see you on the next one
@timmyfrierson2684 Thanks for the information Timmy! I heard that some coal is buried around Montour from an old derailment. Yeah I'll bet the farmer was reimbursed quite well. That corn was looking really good otherwise👍
I was gonna bet they were gonna sort and wash it all and give what they can back to the customer, because penny-pinching!!
Not surprised one bit. I used to be a carman for UP. They dont inspect shit on the WI coal trains. UP got rid of mechanical employees years ago, and now count on train crews to do the required air brake inspections. (N Platte yard does a mechanical inspection when the empties head west, and then reloads and makes the trip all the way back east to the power plants.)
While that is true it did not cause this.
@@iamcarrot1 yeah, I know... they are blaming this derailment on a sun kink
Great video as usual! One heck of a mess! Since we're close to Marshalltown, time for some Maid-Rites!
@markdanielczyk944 Thanks Mark! Been a couple years since I've had a Maid-Rite.
Dang! That must have been a very violent event in multiple stages judging from the track damage and where the cars ended up. I hope nobody got hurt. It will be interesting to see what the NTSB finds out. Thanks for sharing, Red 👍🤙
@araneaetvelivolum1086 You're welcome Aranea! It derailed around the switches of a crossover. Definitely tore everything up!
Looking like quite a bit of track was damaged and is being replaced. And they have a good pile of axles to pick up as well 😢
Those wires reminded me of what just happened in New Orleans. A Mylar aluminum coated balloon landed in a substation and tripped off the power to the main water plant. Now they have issued a boil water advisory for the entire city. Luckily, I am across Lake Pontchartrain with well water, and back up propane powered generators for hurricanes.
Murphy's Law strikes again. Let's hope none land in the substation feeding the Superdome during the Superbowl next year. Half the lights went out during the last Superbowl they held here. Although the delay did improve the second half of the game.
@@billsimpson604 That derailment was definitely close to the substation. Tore everything else up for sure!
Great drone work Hopefully no trains derail in Montour by your camper.
@craigzysk9666 Thanks Craig! That derailment was about 8 miles from Montour. Getting close.
You have an interesting cadence on "derailed." To me, a derail (DEE-rail) is the switch or device that attaches to the rails to protect a mainline which will intentionally derail (duh-RAIL) anything that might wonder loose.
Nice coverage Red. I think when the Railroads were being built they had like 200 foot right away, I am thinking some of that corn is on Railroad property. Hope you get back out there and show us how it’s going.
@joemc111 Thanks joemc! Actually the right of way is 50 foot from the center of the rails out each way. About 100 feet wide on a single track line.
Gold medal drone pilot
@@CBQvet Thanks fn!
The single track line curving off to the left is the Oskaloosa Sub. The East Marshall crossovers off to the right. Most of these views are facing northwest. There's an AEI reader at the crossovers.
Now i know why theres been more priority trains through where i live, they dont normally run them through Sherman Illinois........
That's a pretty long control point. Must be some pretty fast switches this thing had. I'll go out on a limb and guess this train picked a switch.
@@jovetj 50mph crossovers.
I thought you made good use of your drone as it passed over the accident area. It was interesting to see the patterns of corn damage. Regards, Steve. UK
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway Thanks Dinmore Junction! Greetings 👍
@redsiowatrainvideos6645 I have a small channel for my drone videos.
"Below My Drone" on YT.
It's not as good as yours, but a comment might help.
Thanks for the high view, Red.
It's a mess. UP has cut too many corners and this results.
@philbob99 You're welcome philbob!
What corner was cut that caused this??
I am surprised they are moving so slowly with the loss of income on this route if it is a mainline. I realize it is a complex process. Seems like it could be a lot more efficient and timely. Maybe it is not a high volume route. Thank you for the video!
@spinosaurusrex11 You're welcome Geezer! About 25 trains a day.
Wish I would of emailed you. I heard pretty early about it. Great coverage. Thank goodness it didn't happen in montour. Near your place. It's got to be backing tons of trains up. Perhaps some busy videos later...thank you red. Do u mind if I share this video
@davidsnider1703 Thanks David S! My Dad sent me a text about it early but of course it didn't go through. Maybe I can catch them putting the switches back in the crossover. Just straight track for now. Sharing it's fine👍
@redsiowatrainvideos6645 thank you again.
This keeps the car builders busy!
Good catch! Seems like derailments come in multiples anymore.
@sptraxide Thanks SP! Yeah that's crazy, two derailments in one week on the same line.
The contractor appears to be Hulcher Services based oh the logo on the CAT excavator.
Looks like HO scale track pieces. Guess the best way to see a derailment is with a drone. Cheers from eastern TN
@@w.rustylane5650 Cheers from Iowa Rusty!
Interesting seeing older signals thar...
They sure ruined a lot of corn. That is sad to see, but then again there is a lot of corn in Iowa.
Nice video!
Amazing how quickly they can get these accidents cleaned up
@@silverman785 Trains were probably rolling within 36 hours of the derailment.
If that's with in 25 hours derailment working super quick. See locos all ready gone. Coal wagons looked super light weight . For more load weight .
@gyro65 Yep coal cars used to be steel. Aluminum ones allow for more product per car Downfall of aluminum cars would be recovery after derailment. Steel ones didn't tear apart as bad.
Extra heavy cars need extra wheels to spread the weight or heavier rail or large diameter wheels. John. G. Kneiling P.E. Consulting Engineer and Professional Iconoclast was right about what he wrote of. Looks like these modern day railroad companies run by hedge fund manager types are willing to take derailments over safe operations.
It also falls on the Federal Railroad Administration to mandate strict tough coal hopper car manufacturing by the rail car builders the as they did on tank cars.....
Does anyone know what caused this derailment?
The sun.
That has nothing to do with this derailment.
You've made a definitive statement. How do you know for sure ?
@@williammcgeehan3424 I was there.
The rail road not in a hurry to get the land cleaned up.. I sure hope the farmer dosen't have to sue the rail road for damages and clean up costs on his land!
80's for temperature is a lot better then the teens with the wind blowing. I worked a derailment out near Carroll one winter. It wasn't fun. The excavators with the hydraulic clamps for moving panels sure speeds things up.
@52komatsu Yeah nothing wants to work right in the cold. Especially cold hands!
Looks like they needed to have the tie gang add more ties.
As a retired UP employee and working a lot of derailments and MOW employee , it looks like they derailed on a double crossover wiping out both switches and a big signal tower . Tie gang had been working through there and with the temperature being so high that could have been a factor as well . They have to consider the temperature and atmospheric conditions and adjust for rail expansion cutting out some rail if needed . I counted over 40 cars give or take a few . Derail clean up crew scattered the coal cars a lot father than needed . The coal will have to be cleaned up and removed . Hope the farmer is charging per square in of his farm land to Union Pacific . I worked a derailment in North Arkansas , my headquarters while working for UP , and the railroad wouldn't give the farmer whose property was on both sides of the rail line . When the railroad officials arrived at the derailment the farmer was standing in the middle of his road waiting for them . He negotiated a fair deal for him but not so for the railroad . He charged by the square inch of access . I arrived with portable light plants and was told to stay in the tracks of the derail dozers and don't dare get onto the farmers property . I had worked a lot in the area and had a key to get down to the tracks when my tamping equipment was in the area . The farmer wasn't mad at us MOW employees and was cool with us doing our job . The farmers son rode with me and was telling me the best path to take to get as close to the derailment site as possible . He told me to cut across the field and I heard officials screaming at me to stop . We both got out and the son told them he was directing me and it was ok . He told me the deal his father made with the railroad and it was a very sweet deal . Those used crossties along his property that he railroad wouldn't give him cost the railroad a hell of a lot of money several months later . I've never seen derailment dozers having to be guided in their movements like they did at that derailment . I also saw derailment clean up crews have to travel their equipment almost 10 miles down the railroad track to get on site because land owners would not allow them on their property . In turn I was allowed passage as we had always been friendly and respected land owners in the past . On this derailment the railroad will straight rail the track to get traffic moving and will come back soon to set switch panels to get the crossover back in service . Seeing the switch gang prepping for the new signal tower and new switches is a lot easier work now than later . UP doesn't care about anything other than running trains and keeping the railroad and equipment doesn't seem to be in their interest , just make the stock holders happy . That's a bunch of bull . Thanks for allowing me to comment Red .
@25vrd48 You're welcome D Vint! Thanks for sharing some of your experiences. My Dad retired from the UP in 2011. He also did derailment recoveries along with figuring out the cause. He told me the same thing about straight track for now and bring the switches back in later. Looks almost like the farmer may have chopped the corn. That's the second derailment along that line in one week.
@@redsiowatrainvideos6645 Class 1 railroads are having a lot of problems lately , bad decisions by management is costing them now . Thanks for the reply Red . I'll be looking for a follow up video if you get a chance to post one .
they had a few dozen cars with the dpu in the mtown yard that just moved yesterday (Tuesday) I noticed....ironically this is the same area where the IM derailment was several years ago...
They should get all the electric car owners out there to clean up their fuel spill!!! Lol! Great job on the video!
@JimboMorris11 Thanks Jimbo! Good idea👍
LOL!!
That farmer is going to make more money from that derailment than he will from that corn crop this year.
@@HughJassel76 That's for sure!
Yikes, that made a mess!
What is the monetary damage total? Does the insurance company handle the payout or does the money come directly from the train company? 😊
I knew train derailments are messy, especially ones involving coal . That train must have been bookin too.⚫️😳😱
@@nancyhodges444 Looks like it may have derailed at the xover.
Good catch n that red
Is there a route around the derailment that UP can use to the customers they deliver to? Thanks, Red. 🙂🙂
They better not leave that coal. That's the farmers lively hood. Not only that he can't plant there now
Great video red. Are you gonna come down to fort Madison for rail and river days?
@coryhoover01 Thanks Cory! Yes I'm gonna try and get down there👍
What is that between the tracks heading toward the power plant, Red? 🙂🙂
Ties
@iamcarrot1 Thanks 😊
I see some propane tanks. Was this a cross-over? I wonder if the cross-over had something to do with the derailment? Thanks for the video update Red.
@fredtrench5684 You're welcome Fred! My Dad seemed to think the crossover may have been the cause.
I'm guessing the cross-over had something to do with it too. It's nuts how fast they cross over between tracks these days.
@@kenn5894 Yep, 50 mph speed limit through the crossover. 40 mph for loaded coal.
The replacement panels looks like HO scale snap track. LOL spaces between them.
Track. By. Atlas!!!!!
@@Joe-d7m6k Is that code-55 or code-80 for N-scale?
That derailment messed up the mainline and the farm fields nearby. I agree with you, Red, that this was a double WEPX loaded coal train. May guess is that forward part of the train continued to its destination and that the part of the train after the derailed cars is sitting in the Marshalltown Rail Yard waiting for motive power to move the train eastward after the tracks are put back in shape. From your excellent drone footage, it looks like the Maintenance of Way crews are going to be busy with this cleanup. You are posting this video two days after you made this video, has there been any news about a cause for the derailment? Thank you for pointing out the former Minneapolis & St. Louis Railroad Oskaloosa Subdivision trackage going off to the left of the mainline. I was wondering what that trackage was when it first came into view. You mentioned that this was the second Union Pacific derailment within a week on this mainline. Where was the first derailment? (Posted 7 August 2024 at 1825 CDT.)
@thomasmackowiak Thanks Thomas! Haven't heard a cause yet. Looks like it derailed at the crossover. They will put straight track in and do the crossover later. Last week a stack train derailed outside of Glidden.
wonder how much the high temps played into this, we are near 95 plus actual temps on Sunday afternoon in Cedar Rapids
How many derailments this year?! Terrible year for the railroads, so was ‘23
@@TD_loves_IANR 2nd in a week for the UP on this line.
Coal buckets, stick rails make for an accident waiting to happen, 😮 oh wait!!! It did!!!
That is probably an issue of a broken wheel and hi speed!!!
What a mess!!!
I remember coal buckets dumping on the Erie-Buffalo run when I was a kid 60+ years ago… and it seem to take days to get one line open on a 2 track sub and using a slow order. There was only one time I remember a derailment with a whole bunch of automobiles on board… that I bet was expensive for the Nickelplate !!!
Keep up the good work
73’s
DE N2JYG
@franklinwerren7684 Sure thing Frankin! Looks like the train derailed at the xover switches. Speed limit on loaded coal is 40mph there. Broken wheel sounds pretty likely.
I see lots of comments on effect, but I am curious to know what caused the derailment? Was it track defect or car defect or any one cause?
@barbarabross5864 Not sure on a cause. Most likely a car problem.
Wow. What a mess. I counted about 31 coal hoppers. Was any power off the rails? Great video, as always, Red. (On the positive side, the drought's sure over. Corn looks amazing!)
@heybeerdan1820 Thanks HeyBeerDan! Didn't look like the power went off. Yeah we are definitely out of the drought. Now we have a ton of bugs!
I hope there were no injuries to the crew. How many cars are there sitting off the track in that farmers fields?
i know there are hundreds of miles of track but maintenance needs to be top priority at all time.,SAVING a buck will cost you millions in the end.
Lose millions---MAKE BILLIONS---they DON'T CARE!!
Been waiting for your views Red 🤠
@@jeffreyerickson3050 Wish I could have gotten there earlier!
@@redsiowatrainvideos6645 Can't be everywhere........for everybody, our good buddy. 😎
Are those wpex cars? That train usually rolls through my town outside chicago headed to WI. Wpex being wi power & electric naturally. I wonder how many cars they have or if theyll have to scrounge up some leasers in the meantime. But if i see new wpex cars in the future, ill know why lol
@plisskenationbackfromthede3657 Yes I zoomed in on the reporting marks. WPEX
Wepx is used for both Oak Creek and Weston power plants in WI.
@@erict5234 cool never knew where they went to. But ive seen em rolling thru for decades
@plisskenationbackfromthede3657 The Wisconsin public service power plants (Weston and green bay) used the WPSX cars, and We energies power plants (Oak Creek and Pleasant Prairie) used the WEPX cars... both utilities are now owned by the Wisconsin energy group, so they now share all of the reporting marks. Also, both the Green Bay and Pleasant Prairie power plants are now gone.
I'm wondering what could have caused this, straight flat road bed, maybe a broken rail or equipment failure 🤔 😕 😐
@@gerardmeadsr5419 There was a control point there. Possibly derailed at the switches. They will install new switches at a later date.
Do you know how many cars in total were involved, Red? 🙂🙂
Is this part of the area where they replaced the ties.
@@kevinhaycraft4595 Yes on track #2.
I was wondering about what looks like two piles of coal.
Solar and natural gas plant?
@charleshagenbuch6078 I just know of the natural gas plant. They tore down the coal plant about 5 years ago.
Big mess in the corn field Thanks Red
@ronaldrondeau7870 You're welcome Ronald!
How does a train derail on a flat, level track?
@@nlo114 Most likely a car defect. There were switches there also.
@@nlo114 broken rail, the sun kinks the track.
Roscoe P . Coal Train.
These are 60mph tracks aren't they
@daveschmitt4499 I believe 70. Loaded coal trains have 40mph limit here. Looks like it derailed at the control point.
Each train car has trucks with springs and wheels on them and every one of them need to be regularly reinspected as do every mile rail track
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Derailment #29103 this year!
When did you shoot the video?
@@tff847 08/05/2024
it was a double oak creek train
Do you think there was foul play?
Going 70 mph makes one hell of a mess
Coal trains are limited system-wide to 50 MPH (if I remember correctly) on the entire UPRR system.
@@jovetj That is still fast enough to cause severe damage
Looks like they're going to be shelling out to the farmer for what looks like a few acres of knocked down core.
What a mess the farmer has to be so happy. Reimbursement has to go beyond crop value I would think does anyone know for sure how that works? As far as a cargo to lose probably about as close to best case scenario dollar wise.
@kurtzbradley From what I've heard the railroads are pretty generous with land owners. Getting permission to go on the land would be one of the first steps.
I heard that they reload it take it some where to “rewash it” then send it back out
@@coryhoover01 Be interesting to see them reload it.
Looks to be about 33 track panels
It looks like a area that they just put new ties in.
@@52komatsu A tie gang went through there about a month ago. They worked track #2. Which is the South track.
Definitely a sad look for those involved.
Folks in Montour will get some nice quiet nights for sleeping for awhile.
@dennisdingeman1564 Yes they will Dennis!
Luckily it was just coal. Hopefully the farmer gets a payout for crop loss. Where I’m from when a coal train derailed they’d just clean up the wrecked cars and allow people to pick up coal and use it for their stoves. As it was all an insurance write off
@AppalachianMountaineer1863 I'm sure the farmer will be paid well. They used to bury coal at derailments. Doubt they still do.
I feel bad for the farmer that put in all that hard work to plant and a stupid coal train ruins the land
Then the patch repair becomes the permanent repair and the cycle continues
That's a pretty bad one. At least 25 cars are in the dirt.
There is no (visible) hurry to get the track back together again
@@renedupont6116 Trains looked to be rolling again already. Line was probably down for about 36 hours or so.
I don't think that's just coal. See how brown it is ? They make these pellets now with coal and vermiculite er something. That's not good fertilizer I don't think.
Maybe they should get their head out of There as--and fix the tracks.. That seams to work...
Poor farmer lost some crops