Mate, i can't wait for this new series, I'm looking to do the exact same but with a 4060 LP. Your channels been a massive help, just wana say I appreciate it and thank you.
Hey! I think its great youve made a video explaining the TB controllers on youtube so more people can get educated about it before purchasing. I've been fairly active on reddit making posts and commenting on posts for the last month or so about this as well as I learned the hard way - purchasing onexgpu and the Razer core x without really looking too far into it. Have had the UT3G for a month now and the experience has been fantastic. Keep up the good work :]
I extended my Spectre X360 15 2-in-1's (2018, i7-8550u) shelf life by getting an Aorus Gaming Box 2070 back in 2020. Best purchase decision I've made in awhile. Managed to snag the bugger for 550$ which is a steal cause it's an enclosure + RTX2070 combo no bigger than a tissue box. My 15" 2-in-1 works as a tablet/2nd monitor when in work mode, and when I'm gaming I'll turn off the internal screen so the full bandwidth goes to my 32" 4K monitor. Have been enjoying 1440p gaming in latest games (highest settings, no rtx) at 40+ frames. With lossless scaling though it becomes a 1440p 60fps powerhouse!! People think LS is only good for handhelds, but within the eGPU context it's totally beneficial too!! I've stopped using my 2-in-1 as a laptop now and more as a glorified tablet that can game when combined with an eGPU. Tech from 2018 + 2020 = 6 years of good value so far
Oh nice! Had no idea about the different thunderbolt controllers. I was considering something like the "dead robocop" but was going to build a black frame, wrapping it in a breathable fabric and placing it on top. That way it will have a little dust protection and look a little nicer (think a home theatre subwoofer). Maybe even throw in some LEDs if I'm feeling fancy lol
Yeah that's a great idea! I've got an idea for an enclosure I'm going to build for it, I'll likely do the next video discussing all the parts I'm getting to make it work, hopefully!
Def on this journey right now. I decided on an ADT-Link DIy bracket robocop. But with Oculink. It didn’t take the 3080 I had ready, but going to try with a 7800xt next week
I bought a Razer Core X and added a 4070 Super. Worked pretty well. Still decided to build a R7 9700x mATX rig and go back to using the Ally X as a handheld only.
I’ve had good luck with the first model, however I will tell you that when I emailed them with an issue, they didn’t ever respond. @nelly has some really good guides and updates frequently about these eGPUs.
Just ordered a 4070ti super,sf850 (in case this becomes a pc) and a ut3g! For a case I have been researching and apparently you could use a Fractal Terra for it. That would be a cool look and not bad if it becomes a pc. But first lets enjoy the cyberpunk vibes 😂 Going to build it next week and test! Looking forward to your uploads.
The AOOSTAR AG02 seems good too, might be easier and nicer to look at and manage, with its built in power supply, and slightly cheaper overall than your separate power supply approach - but it’s out of stock.
exactly what i am exploring at the moment. I am wanting to move on my desktop. I have a core p3 desktop with a 4070ti, a ryzen 5600x and 32gbs of ddr4 ram running dual ultrawides and some audio gear so if i can find a solution that allows me to drop my power consumption and more importantly my desktop footprint i am all for it
Great video! Found a used razer core X. Stuck a 4060 in it and got worse performance than the ally x standalone! Quickest return I've ever done - now thinking to do the same with an adt. Also seen some great small form eGPUs by swgzone, tempted...
I use mine with a razer core x chroma as my desktop died and had the razer already. Works pretty well. The only game I've had an issue with was Jedi Survivor.
I've gone down the route of a Fractal Terra case with a MSI 790 motherboard, Intel I5 14500 LGA 1700 and gigabyte 4070 for my OLED screen. It's a total beast of a setup and I'm getting way over 120 FPS in almost all of my AAA games. I ordered a GEM 12 oculink PC from Ali but it is trash. It keeps turning off within minutes of being on and the supplied wall PSU is totally dead so that's going back for a refund. Thanks for the great videos and your recommendations. But I hope you go the same route as I have, you will not regret it as I think it should remain separate. Ally X for gaming outside the house and dedicated Mini/micro PC for your 4k TV.
Epic setup, definitely the way for max performance! I'm still testing this new eGPU setup with the ADT UT3G but so far, with my 4070, I'm getting around 90FPS at 4K on Tsushima, Star Wars Outlaws added ray tracing stuff off between 100-120 FPS at 1440p, with the ray tracing stuff on around 90, A Quiet Place maxed at 1440p solid 90. Pretty happy so far with no issues! (Other than at Ubisoft for their Snowdrop engine breaking with windows 24H2 being installed but that's a them problem)! So far this is awesome as I can use my ALLY X handheld at my desk/the studio/outside etc. then 2 cables in and decent performance on my 77" OLED TV! I'll keep testing and making these video updates but ultimately, if something happens that borks it totally I'm definitely just making a mini PC for the TV using the parts I have, only need a mobo/cpu/RAM haha!
@@128KBif you do end up turning around and going down the mini pc route, you should take us along that journey as well! I’d love to see that series and I’m sure others would as well!
@@FamilyGaming_FG I've never seen a case for the ADT UT3G, care to send a link or search term? 🤔 I'm already going down a different route that'll I'll be discussing in the next video update though!
I use the One Dock V2 which is a very sleek and elegant solution in combination with a small form factor Gigabyte 4060 and its awesome on my Ally X! Outside of China, i think eBay is your only bet right now. ThePhawx did a video on a V1 of it, but you'll at least get an idea about it after watching that video.
i have built the dead robo cop egpu with my rtx 3060 ti that i had from a scrapped pc that stopped working im so glad i saved it and im not using the same dock for the gpu but mine is a thunderbolt one and it works fine really enjoy it for the most part. also im wanting an enclosure for mine but i dont know how to create a design to 3d print so im trying to find something that might work and 3d print one day at my college cuz they let students use it which is great =D
If you're focused on couch gaming, rather than going the EGPU route, why don't you just use Moonlight/Sunshine to stream from your main pc, All the power of desktop with almost no drawback, I have my pc to Wake on Lan so that when I load up moonlight on my legion go, I can switch my pc on from downstairs and connect without having to travel to it at all. This isn't a rant by the way, just curious on the thought process.
I discuss this exactly in the previous eGPU video (I think it's that one), and over on the podcast channel. I have SOOO many smart home devices/security cams/other devices connected to our network, something was causing interference with my Moonlight/Sunshine streaming. Every 5mins there'd be horrendous stuttering/delay, making the experience unplayable, I wasn't prepared to disable absolutely everything to find the culprit so decided to go this route! You're right though, Sunshine/Moonlight or even GeForce now will be a much easier solution for many but also for many the ALLY X is their only device or even PC, so this could be a great route for them.
@@128KB Ahhh apologies, I'm not a regular and just came across this video randomly, I'll have to check out the previous ones. If the Ally X is the only device then yeah makes perfect sense to go egpu route, save some money and some space over a big hulking pc sat in a corner somewhere (or on a desk if you like to show off your tech). As for your stuttering issue. I had a similar problem at the start when I tried moonlight/Sunshine, the cause turned out to be the way my devices connected to each other within my household. I have quite a thin but long property and running ethernet cables everywhere wasn't an option for me so opted for some powerline APs which turned out to be the route cause of my stuttering. While I was getting almost the full speed of my network through them, they induced some sporadic latency. After moving to mesh based APs with either wired, wireless (or both) connections, the stream from my pc was much more stable. Just food for thought in case you had a similar setup. I'll be keeping an eye on the development of your situation, I'm a bit tech obsessed so very interested in seeing your egpu results. 😁
I've also gone down the eGPU route, using a Razer Core X Chroma housing. It a bargain at £150, but the PSU did make a scary pop sound every time I plugged it into the mains. So without risking the 4070Ti I've hacked into the case, I decided to update the PSU to a modular type from Cooler Master (V850 sfx). Its tiny and the plug socket hole lines up really well without any dremel work :). After watching your video about these latest eGPU boards with the greater performance, I might look into seeing if I can fit one in the Chroma's housing.
There is a 4th variant: USB4v1 M.2 NVMe SSD enclosure(which uses the same controller as the ADT-Link UT3G) + M.2 to Oculink adapter + Oculink eGPU module. I haven't tried this and I'm not sure how reliable it is. There are some posts on reddit and other places.
Ah yes you're right, I didn't include this since it's the same controller but it would likely get better performance again since it has the Oculink adapter but also requires modding of the ALLY X shell to allow the port to be accessible and also means you no longer have an internal SSD, you'd have to run an external SSD. To me that kinda renders the ALLY X no longer portable so didn't want to address that!
Did I miss it or did you mention things like the aoostar ag2 or the new minis forum deg1 or the Osmeta ego1-m. I would check out Those. They are pcie to oculink and usb4 they have a built in psu and some extra usb ports and a m.2 etc. I would def check those out it’s much cleaner than the “dead robocop” lol
Thank you! Yes, I did actually consider that exact dock, however; people on reddit were complaining of dud units, so I decided instead of trying to deal with overseas customer support (if it happened to me) I'd just build my own. Really happy so far with this set up, more videos on their way!
That's a bummer. I just bought a used Razer Core X for $150, not a bad deal. I'll still give it a try with my ROG Ally X and see how it goes. Worst case, I wonder if the ADT UT3G would work with the Razer Core X housing 🤔 thank you for the update, looking forward to hearing your adventures in the eGPU world.
So many people have great experiences with your Razer Core's, I just got a dud! I hope you have a great experience with yours! If you have any issues I recommend using DDU (display driver uninstaller) in safe mode and then reinstalling the GPU drivers whilst in safe mode again, that's currently been a win for my new eGPU build I'm testing! I've seen people on reddit managing to get the ADT UT3G to fit inside the Core X housing so it seems possible! Glad you enjoyed the video, more on their way!
I will think about getting the one XGPU and it's actually refurbished they're selling a lot cheaper they're selling Around $565 Which is a good prize because am I going to get it when I save up
How’s the ally x just using 1080p or 900p on a small monitor with the IGPU?Like 24inch? I tend to play older games (mass effect 3 at the moment) and mainly in handheld mode on my steam deck but wouldn’t say no to plugging an ally x into my Monitor or OLED 48inch TV and just making the best out of the X, also you know you could tune all games to 1080/900p and not have to change settings when you dock etc as your going for the same res as native screen
They just sell one type of EGPU uses the RTX 4060 and has built in power supply altogether it will look similar to the one XGPU but it's totally similar but it's just a design it's look different and the price tag costs like $700 it's pretty expensive so that's why I like the one XGPU because you can get it a lot cheaper and you can get refurbished
They look like a great all-in-one solution. Just bear in mind since it uses an AMD GPU you'll have uninstall the ALLY X drivers and side-load 780M drivers so they don't conflict with the eGPU AMD drivers.
@@Nino-bu9mjNvidia ones are, they just need a driver installed and away you go but AMD GPU drivers conflict. It's still not difficult to sort but just means you won't be using ASUS's intended ALLY X drivers.
Try the TH3P4G3 it dose have 85w power delivery. you can option an case with it. Plus if you gpu is on the thicker side.. just get some mounting spacer then bam. off to the race.😂
Definitely! About 7:15 is where I discuss the Titan Ridge controller, which is what the TH3P4G3 uses, great setup! The Asmedia (ADT UT3G) does get better performance from your GPU though as it's a newer USB4 controller vs Thunderbolt but that TH3P4G3 is awesome as they also offer a case/enclosure to stick it all in.
I have never really understood the egpu concept. It seems that it only makes sense if it you are adamant about not having a desktop and only having a laptop(without a dedicated gpu) or a handheld like the Ally X. If you have a desktop the most efficient means of having the same functionality is to stream to your handheld or get an android TV box and use moonlight/steam link to stream to a TV. You can get streaming clients for ~$20. If you already have a desktop you could put a streaming client device on every TV in your house for a fraction of what it would cost to complete an egpu setup.
I discussed my streaming venture in one of our podcasts over on 128KB Podcast. Unfortunately, even with Moonlight/Sunshine, streaming wasn't viable, huge stuttering every 30mins or so from some interference, guessing from one of the many smart devices in our home and didn't want to disable absolutely everything and go one by one until I found the culprit. For many, streaming will be fine, for others and enthusiasts a dedicated build or eGPU is a better route. The eGPU concept makes sense, turn your already owned lesser device into a more powerful one for less than the price of a full desktop build. All your need is a GPU/PSU/Controller board. In practice, unfortunately, it's way more of a faf than I'd like it to be! Turning the ALLY X into your one and done hybrid is possible though.
@128KB I have found that with streaming, it is vitally important to have at least the host wired directly to the network. I also have several dedicated computers for various use cases, so I am not in a position where an egpu is relevant to my needs. I prefer, when home, to be able to sit on my couch and stream my games at 120fps+ to my Ally from my much more powerful pc in my office and get 6+ hours of use out of my Ally if I want. I understand I am probably an outlier, but that is just me.
I made asus rog ally z1 extreme work on an egpu woth oculink got a little messy but i made it work , just i had to only one gpu work so i chose radeon 7600 xt oc and works flawlessly best gaming ever since i had my asus just had to disable the igpu not the cpu one more thing since you disables igpu it wont let you use the dock to use the external diaplay you have to connect hdmi cable from egpu to monitor
I have absolutely gone down the egpu path, and have determined that it's just not worth it in virtually any way. I first got a GPD Win Max 2 a couple of years ago. It only had a usb-4 port (not an oculink port yet). I then purchased an Nvidia GPU and a Razer Core. Through USB-4, it had decent performance on some games, and absolutely horrendous performance on others (Spider-Man Remastered over usb-4 had worse performance than just playing it natively on the 6840u igpu). I then tried a Titan Egpu enclosure, and it must've had an updated controller, because it did improve performance, but still had terrible performance in some games. I then purchased a Win Max 2 2024 and a GPD G1 Egpu, which both have oculink ports. Let me tell you, oculink is far more stable and performant than USB-4. The only issue is that you can't plug in Oculink while the PC is on. The G1 needs to be powered on, then the PC. It's not hot pluggable. Also, the G1's fans are loud and sometimes some games use the igpu instead of the G1. Yet another another annoyance is that you need to change the graphic settings every time you switch from playing in handheld mode and on the TV. It's just so inconvenient. Even though oculink is much better, I still think egpu's are just not worth the extra cost and hassle. It's far better to get a mid range tower pc, and have a Steam Deck or Rog Ally, and then just use cloud saves. I think the best setup for my needs would be a living room mini tower PC using Bazzite (or an official Steam OS image if that ever releases) and a Rog Ally X. And then eventually a Switch 2 for the Nintendo exclusives. That covers virtually every gaming situation I would want to be in.
Bro there's ways you can build your own a lot cheaper than making your own or self expensive I regret that building yourself in EGPU a lot cheaper and there's ways you can get really good amount of performance with with a good budget price
I'm very excited to see what the end result is. I have a beefy gaming rig but since handhelds came along I never use it anymore. My goal is to create a portable eGPU setup for my Ally X that will replace my gaming desktop...so this is what I've been waiting for someone to start testing. I'm hoping I can just use my current GPU/PSU from my gaming rig and downsize everything.
Fun Fact: you know what the BEST route to get an eGPU type of setup for your Ally device, about a year ago? Using an XG Mobile. Luckily for me, a lot of you content creators cried about how expensive it was and how 'useless' it was that you got ASUS to drop the connection to it on their Ally X...which coincidentally dropped the price considerably. I got a ROG Ally with a 4090 for $1500. With an eGPU performance of 60gbps (versus your setup of about 32 gbps or worse with stutters/artifacts). Yeah. Stutter-free/artifact-free 4k/locked 60fps on Cyberpunk 2077 without using any frame gen nonsense. So keep screaming/crying/shilling because your audience would rather make excuses than understand that good things need to be purchased if they're good and not whined about in hopes that they give it to you for free (I guess?) because when they do that, it's profitable for some people out here. Like me.
What I don't get is all the people "like you" that cry and moan about something assuming I have the same views, lumping me into the "creators like you" camp. I stopped reading your comment halfway through because of it. The funny thing is I think the XG Mobile is awesome tech and exactly what we're replicating building our own eGPUs, so, why is it useless? Drop your assumed rage.
I'd just buy the GPD G1 and not bother with building one yourself. You can get around the issues of AMD driver clash quite easily. 7600m XT is more than good enough for desktop gameplay. RTX 4070 or higher will just be far too bottlenecked on a Thunderbolt 4 port, pointless using that GPU and taking a huge performance cut in my opinion.
@@Saif0412 you can use up to a 4070 Super really, anything above that is bottlenecked. As explained in the video, the asmedia controller of the UT3G has the biggest bandwidth and lowest amount of bottleneck, isn't pointless at all. It's modular & upgradable since you can swap the card out. The prebuilts enclosed units are fine, as I explained but they're not as good performance wise nor are they upgradable/future proof but they're great for people that don't want the hassle.
are you really posting this unfinished video with no innovation whatsoever. you go the casual gamer route then proceed to need to tell us your product died. i think the reason you did this is to push the high purchase cost onto others like many of you reviewers on youtube. you're not interested in the base product either. if you don't make another fraudulent review you likely will not see ppl like me pointing out these things and saying you're trying to scam ppl into buying niche products such as Ally X.
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Thanks for this video. This is EXACTLY the journey I am on for my Rog Ally X - will be watching your progress with great interest.
@@abulka awesome! 😁
Mate, i can't wait for this new series, I'm looking to do the exact same but with a 4060 LP. Your channels been a massive help, just wana say I appreciate it and thank you.
@@kalista37 that'll be an awesome setup! Appreciate your kind words, glad you enjoy the content
Hey!
I think its great youve made a video explaining the TB controllers on youtube so more people can get educated about it before purchasing.
I've been fairly active on reddit making posts and commenting on posts for the last month or so about this as well as I learned the hard way - purchasing onexgpu and the Razer core x without really looking too far into it. Have had the UT3G for a month now and the experience has been fantastic.
Keep up the good work :]
dude I love your channel and content
I extended my Spectre X360 15 2-in-1's (2018, i7-8550u) shelf life by getting an Aorus Gaming Box 2070 back in 2020. Best purchase decision I've made in awhile. Managed to snag the bugger for 550$ which is a steal cause it's an enclosure + RTX2070 combo no bigger than a tissue box. My 15" 2-in-1 works as a tablet/2nd monitor when in work mode, and when I'm gaming I'll turn off the internal screen so the full bandwidth goes to my 32" 4K monitor. Have been enjoying 1440p gaming in latest games (highest settings, no rtx) at 40+ frames. With lossless scaling though it becomes a 1440p 60fps powerhouse!! People think LS is only good for handhelds, but within the eGPU context it's totally beneficial too!! I've stopped using my 2-in-1 as a laptop now and more as a glorified tablet that can game when combined with an eGPU. Tech from 2018 + 2020 = 6 years of good value so far
So the setup with the og rog alley Z1 Xtreme setup with the expensive ROG egpu dock station is still on of the best option then.
Oh nice! Had no idea about the different thunderbolt controllers. I was considering something like the "dead robocop" but was going to build a black frame, wrapping it in a breathable fabric and placing it on top. That way it will have a little dust protection and look a little nicer (think a home theatre subwoofer). Maybe even throw in some LEDs if I'm feeling fancy lol
Yeah that's a great idea! I've got an idea for an enclosure I'm going to build for it, I'll likely do the next video discussing all the parts I'm getting to make it work, hopefully!
Def on this journey right now. I decided on an ADT-Link DIy bracket robocop. But with Oculink. It didn’t take the 3080 I had ready, but going to try with a 7800xt next week
@@RFamilyvlog23 good luck!!
I bought a Razer Core X and added a 4070 Super. Worked pretty well. Still decided to build a R7 9700x mATX rig and go back to using the Ally X as a handheld only.
I made my asus rog ally z1 work with a built gpu
I've pledged to the OneXGPU2, which I know has inherent risks as a crowdsourcing project but hopefully it's a good gamble!
I’ve had good luck with the first model, however I will tell you that when I emailed them with an issue, they didn’t ever respond.
@nelly has some really good guides and updates frequently about these eGPUs.
My bad it’s @GamingRepairs
Just ordered a 4070ti super,sf850 (in case this becomes a pc) and a ut3g!
For a case I have been researching and apparently you could use a Fractal Terra for it. That would be a cool look and not bad if it becomes a pc. But first lets enjoy the cyberpunk vibes 😂
Going to build it next week and test! Looking forward to your uploads.
I go with occulink adapter and usb4 nvme enclosure and works good, less cables, simple setup.
The AOOSTAR AG02 seems good too, might be easier and nicer to look at and manage, with its built in power supply, and slightly cheaper overall than your separate power supply approach - but it’s out of stock.
exactly what i am exploring at the moment. I am wanting to move on my desktop. I have a core p3 desktop with a 4070ti, a ryzen 5600x and 32gbs of ddr4 ram running dual ultrawides and some audio gear so if i can find a solution that allows me to drop my power consumption and more importantly my desktop footprint i am all for it
Great video! Found a used razer core X. Stuck a 4060 in it and got worse performance than the ally x standalone! Quickest return I've ever done - now thinking to do the same with an adt. Also seen some great small form eGPUs by swgzone, tempted...
I use mine with a razer core x chroma as my desktop died and had the razer already. Works pretty well. The only game I've had an issue with was Jedi Survivor.
I've gone down the route of a Fractal Terra case with a MSI 790 motherboard, Intel I5 14500 LGA 1700 and gigabyte 4070 for my OLED screen. It's a total beast of a setup and I'm getting way over 120 FPS in almost all of my AAA games. I ordered a GEM 12 oculink PC from Ali but it is trash. It keeps turning off within minutes of being on and the supplied wall PSU is totally dead so that's going back for a refund. Thanks for the great videos and your recommendations. But I hope you go the same route as I have, you will not regret it as I think it should remain separate. Ally X for gaming outside the house and dedicated Mini/micro PC for your 4k TV.
Epic setup, definitely the way for max performance! I'm still testing this new eGPU setup with the ADT UT3G but so far, with my 4070, I'm getting around 90FPS at 4K on Tsushima, Star Wars Outlaws added ray tracing stuff off between 100-120 FPS at 1440p, with the ray tracing stuff on around 90, A Quiet Place maxed at 1440p solid 90. Pretty happy so far with no issues! (Other than at Ubisoft for their Snowdrop engine breaking with windows 24H2 being installed but that's a them problem)!
So far this is awesome as I can use my ALLY X handheld at my desk/the studio/outside etc. then 2 cables in and decent performance on my 77" OLED TV! I'll keep testing and making these video updates but ultimately, if something happens that borks it totally I'm definitely just making a mini PC for the TV using the parts I have, only need a mobo/cpu/RAM haha!
@@128KBif you do end up turning around and going down the mini pc route, you should take us along that journey as well! I’d love to see that series and I’m sure others would as well!
The seller of t3g has case for this setup, we did this setup with 4070 ti super, works nice and there is no need to keep this without case
@@FamilyGaming_FG I've never seen a case for the ADT UT3G, care to send a link or search term? 🤔 I'm already going down a different route that'll I'll be discussing in the next video update though!
I use the One Dock V2 which is a very sleek and elegant solution in combination with a small form factor Gigabyte 4060 and its awesome on my Ally X! Outside of China, i think eBay is your only bet right now. ThePhawx did a video on a V1 of it, but you'll at least get an idea about it after watching that video.
i have built the dead robo cop egpu with my rtx 3060 ti that i had from a scrapped pc that stopped working im so glad i saved it and im not using the same dock for the gpu but mine is a thunderbolt one and it works fine really enjoy it for the most part. also im wanting an enclosure for mine but i dont know how to create a design to 3d print so im trying to find something that might work and 3d print one day at my college cuz they let students use it which is great =D
If you're focused on couch gaming, rather than going the EGPU route, why don't you just use Moonlight/Sunshine to stream from your main pc, All the power of desktop with almost no drawback, I have my pc to Wake on Lan so that when I load up moonlight on my legion go, I can switch my pc on from downstairs and connect without having to travel to it at all. This isn't a rant by the way, just curious on the thought process.
I discuss this exactly in the previous eGPU video (I think it's that one), and over on the podcast channel. I have SOOO many smart home devices/security cams/other devices connected to our network, something was causing interference with my Moonlight/Sunshine streaming. Every 5mins there'd be horrendous stuttering/delay, making the experience unplayable, I wasn't prepared to disable absolutely everything to find the culprit so decided to go this route!
You're right though, Sunshine/Moonlight or even GeForce now will be a much easier solution for many but also for many the ALLY X is their only device or even PC, so this could be a great route for them.
@@128KB Ahhh apologies, I'm not a regular and just came across this video randomly, I'll have to check out the previous ones. If the Ally X is the only device then yeah makes perfect sense to go egpu route, save some money and some space over a big hulking pc sat in a corner somewhere (or on a desk if you like to show off your tech).
As for your stuttering issue. I had a similar problem at the start when I tried moonlight/Sunshine, the cause turned out to be the way my devices connected to each other within my household. I have quite a thin but long property and running ethernet cables everywhere wasn't an option for me so opted for some powerline APs which turned out to be the route cause of my stuttering. While I was getting almost the full speed of my network through them, they induced some sporadic latency. After moving to mesh based APs with either wired, wireless (or both) connections, the stream from my pc was much more stable. Just food for thought in case you had a similar setup.
I'll be keeping an eye on the development of your situation, I'm a bit tech obsessed so very interested in seeing your egpu results. 😁
I've also gone down the eGPU route, using a Razer Core X Chroma housing. It a bargain at £150, but the PSU did make a scary pop sound every time I plugged it into the mains. So without risking the 4070Ti I've hacked into the case, I decided to update the PSU to a modular type from Cooler Master (V850 sfx). Its tiny and the plug socket hole lines up really well without any dremel work :). After watching your video about these latest eGPU boards with the greater performance, I might look into seeing if I can fit one in the Chroma's housing.
There is a 4th variant:
USB4v1 M.2 NVMe SSD enclosure(which uses the same controller as the ADT-Link UT3G) + M.2 to Oculink adapter + Oculink eGPU module.
I haven't tried this and I'm not sure how reliable it is. There are some posts on reddit and other places.
Ah yes you're right, I didn't include this since it's the same controller but it would likely get better performance again since it has the Oculink adapter but also requires modding of the ALLY X shell to allow the port to be accessible and also means you no longer have an internal SSD, you'd have to run an external SSD. To me that kinda renders the ALLY X no longer portable so didn't want to address that!
Try it it even works on asus rog ally z1 extreme I did it with oculink connection faster connection
Did I miss it or did you mention things like the aoostar ag2 or the new minis forum deg1 or the Osmeta ego1-m. I would check out Those. They are pcie to oculink and usb4 they have a built in psu and some extra usb ports and a m.2 etc. I would def check those out it’s much cleaner than the “dead robocop” lol
Great video! Did you consider the Aoostar AG02 Dock? I’m still torn between that (which is out of stock at the moment) vs the UT3G
Thank you! Yes, I did actually consider that exact dock, however; people on reddit were complaining of dud units, so I decided instead of trying to deal with overseas customer support (if it happened to me) I'd just build my own. Really happy so far with this set up, more videos on their way!
That's a bummer. I just bought a used Razer Core X for $150, not a bad deal. I'll still give it a try with my ROG Ally X and see how it goes. Worst case, I wonder if the ADT UT3G would work with the Razer Core X housing 🤔 thank you for the update, looking forward to hearing your adventures in the eGPU world.
So many people have great experiences with your Razer Core's, I just got a dud! I hope you have a great experience with yours! If you have any issues I recommend using DDU (display driver uninstaller) in safe mode and then reinstalling the GPU drivers whilst in safe mode again, that's currently been a win for my new eGPU build I'm testing!
I've seen people on reddit managing to get the ADT UT3G to fit inside the Core X housing so it seems possible!
Glad you enjoyed the video, more on their way!
I will think about getting the one XGPU and it's actually refurbished they're selling a lot cheaper they're selling Around $565 Which is a good prize because am I going to get it when I save up
How’s the ally x just using 1080p or 900p on a small monitor with the IGPU?Like 24inch? I tend to play older games (mass effect 3 at the moment) and mainly in handheld mode on my steam deck but wouldn’t say no to plugging an ally x into my Monitor or OLED 48inch TV and just making the best out of the X, also you know you could tune all games to 1080/900p and not have to change settings when you dock etc as your going for the same res as native screen
They just sell one type of EGPU uses the RTX 4060 and has built in power supply altogether it will look similar to the one XGPU but it's totally similar but it's just a design it's look different and the price tag costs like $700 it's pretty expensive so that's why I like the one XGPU because you can get it a lot cheaper and you can get refurbished
first! im looking at buying an egpu myselg man. considering the onexgpu its small and real practical for me to have it when traveling
They look like a great all-in-one solution. Just bear in mind since it uses an AMD GPU you'll have uninstall the ALLY X drivers and side-load 780M drivers so they don't conflict with the eGPU AMD drivers.
@@128KB aw man i thought it was plug and play
@@Nino-bu9mjNvidia ones are, they just need a driver installed and away you go but AMD GPU drivers conflict. It's still not difficult to sort but just means you won't be using ASUS's intended ALLY X drivers.
I'm just getting the onex gpu2. Price to performance, PD and outputs, it seems the best option atm
Is it only for sale on Indiegogo right now? I'm also interested in getting it, but sheesh, $900 is crazy steep!
Try the TH3P4G3 it dose have 85w power delivery. you can option an case with it. Plus if you gpu is on the thicker side.. just get some mounting spacer then bam. off to the race.😂
Definitely! About 7:15 is where I discuss the Titan Ridge controller, which is what the TH3P4G3 uses, great setup! The Asmedia (ADT UT3G) does get better performance from your GPU though as it's a newer USB4 controller vs Thunderbolt but that TH3P4G3 is awesome as they also offer a case/enclosure to stick it all in.
I have never really understood the egpu concept. It seems that it only makes sense if it you are adamant about not having a desktop and only having a laptop(without a dedicated gpu) or a handheld like the Ally X. If you have a desktop the most efficient means of having the same functionality is to stream to your handheld or get an android TV box and use moonlight/steam link to stream to a TV. You can get streaming clients for ~$20. If you already have a desktop you could put a streaming client device on every TV in your house for a fraction of what it would cost to complete an egpu setup.
I discussed my streaming venture in one of our podcasts over on 128KB Podcast. Unfortunately, even with Moonlight/Sunshine, streaming wasn't viable, huge stuttering every 30mins or so from some interference, guessing from one of the many smart devices in our home and didn't want to disable absolutely everything and go one by one until I found the culprit. For many, streaming will be fine, for others and enthusiasts a dedicated build or eGPU is a better route.
The eGPU concept makes sense, turn your already owned lesser device into a more powerful one for less than the price of a full desktop build. All your need is a GPU/PSU/Controller board. In practice, unfortunately, it's way more of a faf than I'd like it to be! Turning the ALLY X into your one and done hybrid is possible though.
@128KB I have found that with streaming, it is vitally important to have at least the host wired directly to the network. I also have several dedicated computers for various use cases, so I am not in a position where an egpu is relevant to my needs. I prefer, when home, to be able to sit on my couch and stream my games at 120fps+ to my Ally from my much more powerful pc in my office and get 6+ hours of use out of my Ally if I want. I understand I am probably an outlier, but that is just me.
Could you somehow swap out the controller and still use the razor enclosure?
I've seen people on Reddit doing that but I believe they've removed all the razer internals and replaced the PSU too. So it can be done!
I made asus rog ally z1 extreme work on an egpu woth oculink got a little messy but i made it work , just i had to only one gpu work so i chose radeon 7600 xt oc and works flawlessly best gaming ever since i had my asus just had to disable the igpu not the cpu one more thing since you disables igpu it wont let you use the dock to use the external diaplay you have to connect hdmi cable from egpu to monitor
Horizon before native igpu fps 30 with the dedicated gpu 120 fps
I have absolutely gone down the egpu path, and have determined that it's just not worth it in virtually any way.
I first got a GPD Win Max 2 a couple of years ago. It only had a usb-4 port (not an oculink port yet). I then purchased an Nvidia GPU and a Razer Core. Through USB-4, it had decent performance on some games, and absolutely horrendous performance on others (Spider-Man Remastered over usb-4 had worse performance than just playing it natively on the 6840u igpu). I then tried a Titan Egpu enclosure, and it must've had an updated controller, because it did improve performance, but still had terrible performance in some games.
I then purchased a Win Max 2 2024 and a GPD G1 Egpu, which both have oculink ports. Let me tell you, oculink is far more stable and performant than USB-4. The only issue is that you can't plug in Oculink while the PC is on. The G1 needs to be powered on, then the PC. It's not hot pluggable. Also, the G1's fans are loud and sometimes some games use the igpu instead of the G1. Yet another another annoyance is that you need to change the graphic settings every time you switch from playing in handheld mode and on the TV. It's just so inconvenient.
Even though oculink is much better, I still think egpu's are just not worth the extra cost and hassle. It's far better to get a mid range tower pc, and have a Steam Deck or Rog Ally, and then just use cloud saves. I think the best setup for my needs would be a living room mini tower PC using Bazzite (or an official Steam OS image if that ever releases) and a Rog Ally X. And then eventually a Switch 2 for the Nintendo exclusives. That covers virtually every gaming situation I would want to be in.
Bro there's ways you can build your own a lot cheaper than making your own or self expensive I regret that building yourself in EGPU a lot cheaper and there's ways you can get really good amount of performance with with a good budget price
Can I run an egpu an also a dock on my ally x ?
Dude, calm down.
128KB Ghandi does have a nice ring to it.
i subscribed ot u because u do ally x videos. i just got mine a month ago
Hope you're loving your ALLY X!
I'm very excited to see what the end result is. I have a beefy gaming rig but since handhelds came along I never use it anymore. My goal is to create a portable eGPU setup for my Ally X that will replace my gaming desktop...so this is what I've been waiting for someone to start testing. I'm hoping I can just use my current GPU/PSU from my gaming rig and downsize everything.
yeah I think you'll be able too. We're getting close, next update incoming this week.
honestly a 400 watt power supply would be enough for a rtx 4070 alone.
Totally but I wanted to future proof myself in case the eGPU sucked and I wanted to just build a miniATX system instead 😅
@@128KB you’re honestly goated
Fun Fact: you know what the BEST route to get an eGPU type of setup for your Ally device, about a year ago? Using an XG Mobile. Luckily for me, a lot of you content creators cried about how expensive it was and how 'useless' it was that you got ASUS to drop the connection to it on their Ally X...which coincidentally dropped the price considerably. I got a ROG Ally with a 4090 for $1500. With an eGPU performance of 60gbps (versus your setup of about 32 gbps or worse with stutters/artifacts). Yeah. Stutter-free/artifact-free 4k/locked 60fps on Cyberpunk 2077 without using any frame gen nonsense. So keep screaming/crying/shilling because your audience would rather make excuses than understand that good things need to be purchased if they're good and not whined about in hopes that they give it to you for free (I guess?) because when they do that, it's profitable for some people out here.
Like me.
What I don't get is all the people "like you" that cry and moan about something assuming I have the same views, lumping me into the "creators like you" camp. I stopped reading your comment halfway through because of it.
The funny thing is I think the XG Mobile is awesome tech and exactly what we're replicating building our own eGPUs, so, why is it useless?
Drop your assumed rage.
3d print a egpu enclosure
I'd just buy the GPD G1 and not bother with building one yourself. You can get around the issues of AMD driver clash quite easily. 7600m XT is more than good enough for desktop gameplay. RTX 4070 or higher will just be far too bottlenecked on a Thunderbolt 4 port, pointless using that GPU and taking a huge performance cut in my opinion.
@@Saif0412 you can use up to a 4070 Super really, anything above that is bottlenecked. As explained in the video, the asmedia controller of the UT3G has the biggest bandwidth and lowest amount of bottleneck, isn't pointless at all. It's modular & upgradable since you can swap the card out. The prebuilts enclosed units are fine, as I explained but they're not as good performance wise nor are they upgradable/future proof but they're great for people that don't want the hassle.
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are you really posting this unfinished video with no innovation whatsoever. you go the casual gamer route then proceed to need to tell us your product died. i think the reason you did this is to push the high purchase cost onto others like many of you reviewers on youtube. you're not interested in the base product either. if you don't make another fraudulent review you likely will not see ppl like me pointing out these things and saying you're trying to scam ppl into buying niche products such as Ally X.
@@michealfunickrr3717 WTF man? 🤬
You're right, you found us out, we're scamming people to purchase a product we have zero affiliation with.
😂 Man, I wonder how many RUclipsrs are tempted to reply sarcastically to people like this @@128KB