@@authorwilliamfripp6522 no sir you won’t! They are probably the most original band. There are so many times I’ll hear a song and think “sounds familiar I could’ve sworn I heard something close to that before” but never with King Crimson!
Don't forget about David Cross. This line-up lost a lot of its uniqueness when he left; he's on this recording. And the best improvisational band of all time was the Grateful Dead.
Agreed. Both on best Crim lineup (although I'd add Jamie Muir), and best improv band. BIG difference between a band that can improv and a jam band like the Dead.
Starless is like the blues of progressive music. And for me one of the best songs of the previous century, landmark. In this version Bruford's drumming is pure awesomeness.
Remember this was before the "Red" album so fans didn't know this song ! And with the Red album all the Saxes were added, I like this earlier Live version done on their many Live cuts 👍🎶🎸🥁🎹🎸🎻🎼✌
That´s your opinion. The band played excellently, but the spirit of King Crimson was gone. Jakko is a great singer but too entertaining for my taste. Starless requires John Wetton. 3 drummers was nonsense.
An inmortal masterpiece, the most representative song of kc quality, as would be comfortably numb, firth of fifth and heart of the sunrise for pf, genesis and yes. This version is previous than the included in red, so it is interesting to see the changes they added to the final version. Thanks for sharing!
Oh my... I needed to find this. John Wetton´s voice and his bass playing is second to none. Man, this just explodes in your brain.. Bill outdid himself right here... You know now why he left Yes without a smirk... this is so, so much more 😍 Demanding and rewarding... I think he could never be happier.
David Cross does an entire CD on this theme combined with Robert’s seperately recorded Starless related soundscapes called Starless Sunlight. It’s quite beautiful.❤
I have loved Crimson since I heard them on Discipline (I think it was 1987 for me), then I saw them on the Thrak tour-incredible! But somehow I missed this song, now my favorite, until I saw the film Mandy (which is a whole other rant). This song and lineup are brilliant. No slouches play drums for them ever, but Buford is the man!! Also agree with the earlier comment on Wetton’s voice, so perfect for this song. For me, this song hits me with the force of an emotional hurricane. Especially at 10:30 when it all comes back around.
I was lucky enough to stumble across them on the Discipline tour: they played my college gym when I was a freshman on Halloween, I bought a ticket with my roommate without knowing who they were at all, but we weren't invited to any parties and thought it'd be a good way to spend the evening; possibly the best $5 I've ever spent. I managed to miss the Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair tours - I think both times when they played the city I was in for college I was away (maybe at home for a break?), so I had to wait for Thrak to see them again with a (now) long-time friend and fellow Crimso. And since then, I've been lucky enough to have seen those four in all kinds of different configurations: Adrian solo (he also played my college twice, for the Lone Rhino and Twang Bar King tours, and pretty much every solo tour since), with The Bears, with David Bowie (Sound + Vision tour), and the Power Trio; Bill on the ABWH tour and the Yes Union tour; Tony with California Guitar Trio and ABWH; and Robert with the League Of Crafty Guitarists. While almost all KC albums are really good, I think Red is my favorite.
Yo la primera vez que los escuché fue en 1978 y me impactaron y lo siguen haciendo hasta ahora. Esta versión no lo había escuchado, es increíble y creo que mejor que la actual.
KC is a brilliant reflection of an era. It’s a phantom asteroid who returns to set his sights on sound art. A stupendous wave laden with paradoxes from which obscurantism and the irrational escape, hypnotic factors defying vulnerable souls in search of the infinity. Their musical architecture is a translucid and short tunnel that leads to light
@Benjiroyoface this says it was recorded in March 74, and they recorded Red in July 74 (after David Cross had been sacked). Red was released in October 74, right after Fripp had killed KC off for the first time.
@@AP-sd1flThats a misconstruesion of why KC ended up having 3 drummers from 2013-2021. The history of having multiple drummers in KC predates Bruford's departure in the band. The early Larks' Tongues Line-up feature Bill and Jamie, the Discipline sometimes saw Adrian Belew on a drumkit alongside Bill, and the Double Trio era saw Bill and Pat as the drummers. The 2000-2003 era of band actually only had Pat Mastelotto on drums. Fripp didn't want 3 drummers to make up for the loss of Bruford, all of KC's drummer at that point were beyond qualified to play Bruford parts.
This was my favorite KC lineup which for me is saying a lot because they were all great in their own way and style. Nobody can do the vocals on this song and do it justice as John Wetton did. RIP John.
The name Starless is of course borrowed from the poet Dylan Thomas, but I would like to point out that the French poet Maurice Blanchot also has the term Désastre, in English: starless.
Yeah, I'm not one for gushing in the comments usually (waaayyyy too much of that shit on yt as it is); nevertheless, I do find myself getting a bit emotional every time I hear this song, especially a new live version I've never heard before... A lot of Fripp's stuff tugs at that string in my brain that's attached to the soundtrack of my dreaming.
We have a new tune we would like to perform for you, an instrumental we call “Starless and Bible Black” but first, a little dittie called Starless with lyrics that end with Starless and Bible Black. Guy in front row asks “Who’s on first?”
Fun scenario. Clarification just incase anyone thinks the song "Starless and Bible Black" was ever in the King Crimson setlist, it was improvised live on stage, just another "improv". The reason it features on the album "Starless and Bible Black" is because one of the main parts of that album is that half of it was composed of improv recorded live on stage. The album "Starless and Bible Black" is atleast 4/5 a live album in disguise, not much of it was made in a studio.
Great! But wtf is Wetton doing with the lyrics though? Ice blue silver shweid go through my eyes/ with our eyes still bleh to be? Starless and Bible black/ Old friend Golderold cool twisted smile/ shiv for dee hee hee hee to be... the man is clearly on drugs!
Simple lyrics to understand….what drugs are you on that you cannot comprehend them….maybe drugs are not your problem….maybe your brain just hurts….time to see Dr. Gumby.
Yes, Greg lake was an absolute monster of a vocalist. But, Wetton’s skill and contribution to the band shouldn’t be overlooked simply because he isn’t Greg Lake.
@@cristianmolina8148 May as well go for the clean sweep. Larks, Starless And Bible Black, and Red. We didn’t quite know how good we had it. We thought music like this was just going to continue, on and on. About a decade later, we knew.
This song should be as famous as Stairway To Heaven…
It at least isn't derivative. You'll not find other artists suing KC for intellectual property infringement. ;)
@@authorwilliamfripp6522 no sir you won’t! They are probably the most original band. There are so many times I’ll hear a song and think “sounds familiar I could’ve sworn I heard something close to that before” but never with King Crimson!
should be more famous! king crimson is one of the greatest bands of all time!
@@growskulltotally agree!
Greg Lake should have stayed in the band instead of going to ELP ...@@growskull
Bill Bruford is fuckin nuts I can't imagine what he must look like playing this
Exactly what his facial expression is in the picture😂
Man, I came to see a live video of them on stage performing.
@@MimolimotimoBoohoo numbskull
Best percussionist ever!
Wetton's voice never changed over the years, beautiful and smooth as always...RIP John, miss you
What a voice. What a bass player.
Fripp has said that John's nearest peer on bass was Jaco Pastorius. Plus John had an amazing voice too
@@haljalykakik2384Fripp also said that Wetton was the best musician he ever played with, any play with a ton of great musicians!
i have been there and had to buy everything from king crimson after this show. i was 16 years old and it changed all music perception in my mind
Best crimson lineup ever! Best improvisational band of all time!
Bruford, Wetton & Fripp best ever on their instruments in the Prog Rock realm!
nah, that's easily CAN
probably second, though
Don't forget about David Cross. This line-up lost a lot of its uniqueness when he left; he's on this recording. And the best improvisational band of all time was the Grateful Dead.
Agreed. Both on best Crim lineup (although I'd add Jamie Muir), and best improv band.
BIG difference between a band that can improv and a jam band like the Dead.
Starless is like the blues of progressive music. And for me one of the best songs of the previous century, landmark. In this version Bruford's drumming is pure awesomeness.
Remember this was before the "Red" album so fans didn't know this song !
And with the Red album all the Saxes were added, I like this earlier Live version done on their many Live cuts 👍🎶🎸🥁🎹🎸🎻🎼✌
Buford, Fripp & Wetton are all musical geniuses! I count myself lucky to have heard them in their primes!
Bruford is absolutely nuts.
Wetton's voice is incredible in this version! Even better than the original in my opinion.
Fripp so far ahead of the times he somehow almost perfectly mimicked one of the sounds made by a mri scanner before they were ever built. (7:40-8:00)
🤪😜
more like mri was inspired by Fripp's musical talent
The best live version of Starless.
…is from the 2015 Mexico City show… 3 drummers
@@simpleman5688
Without Wetton (or Bruford) no best version!
That´s your opinion. The band played excellently, but the spirit of King Crimson was gone. Jakko is a great singer but too entertaining for my taste. Starless requires John Wetton. 3 drummers was nonsense.
Cold and technical compared to the original.
I mean the Mexico City version.
undoubtedly, one of the best songs in history...
This period of King Crimson was red hot. What a line-up. Excellent recording.
Thank you. Thank you.
Brilliant version. Never to be forgotten, John Wetton. Champion musician. Champion person
bruford impresionante
Jesuschrist!! This lineup was a force of nature. The sound is amazing!!
Bill’s work is standout.
He's mad at the drums
The swing on that build up is immense
An inmortal masterpiece, the most representative song of kc quality, as would be comfortably numb, firth of fifth and heart of the sunrise for pf, genesis and yes. This version is previous than the included in red, so it is interesting to see the changes they added to the final version. Thanks for sharing!
Oh my... I needed to find this. John Wetton´s voice and his bass playing is second to none.
Man, this just explodes in your brain.. Bill outdid himself right here...
You know now why he left Yes without a smirk... this is so, so much more 😍
Demanding and rewarding... I think he could never be happier.
And the melody played by a violin? Is very very beautiful and melancholy
David Cross does an entire CD on this theme combined with Robert’s seperately recorded Starless related soundscapes called Starless Sunlight.
It’s quite beautiful.❤
During his time at King Crimson, Bill Bruford was an overwhelmingly dazzling artist.
I didn't know Bill Bruford could drum like this. It's crazy.
This song is like a symphony
Absolutely, fabulous performance music. Master Wetton rip. Thanks for posting them. King Crimson is King.
That guitar solo speaks volumes.
Ogni volta è la stessa storia... non ho parole, se non brividi e occhi lucidi.
What a trip.
Capolavoro assoluto!❤
I have loved Crimson since I heard them on Discipline (I think it was 1987 for me), then I saw them on the Thrak tour-incredible! But somehow I missed this song, now my favorite, until I saw the film Mandy (which is a whole other rant). This song and lineup are brilliant. No slouches play drums for them ever, but Buford is the man!! Also agree with the earlier comment on Wetton’s voice, so perfect for this song. For me, this song hits me with the force of an emotional hurricane. Especially at 10:30 when it all comes back around.
I was lucky enough to stumble across them on the Discipline tour: they played my college gym when I was a freshman on Halloween, I bought a ticket with my roommate without knowing who they were at all, but we weren't invited to any parties and thought it'd be a good way to spend the evening; possibly the best $5 I've ever spent. I managed to miss the Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair tours - I think both times when they played the city I was in for college I was away (maybe at home for a break?), so I had to wait for Thrak to see them again with a (now) long-time friend and fellow Crimso. And since then, I've been lucky enough to have seen those four in all kinds of different configurations: Adrian solo (he also played my college twice, for the Lone Rhino and Twang Bar King tours, and pretty much every solo tour since), with The Bears, with David Bowie (Sound + Vision tour), and the Power Trio; Bill on the ABWH tour and the Yes Union tour; Tony with California Guitar Trio and ABWH; and Robert with the League Of Crafty Guitarists.
While almost all KC albums are really good, I think Red is my favorite.
Yo la primera vez que los escuché fue en 1978 y me impactaron y lo siguen haciendo hasta ahora. Esta versión no lo había escuchado, es increíble y creo que mejor que la actual.
@@koredono Que suerte amigo, yo nunca los vi en directo, pero nunca es tarde. Dios salve a KC.
Now, try Formentera Lady~Sailor’s Tale
So beautiful, thank you......
such an absolute masterpiece
FMD. What a version. Fripp’s guitar sounds even more evil than I thought possible. This version is insanely good. Bravo
I cried when I heard this song live… 2014 Orpheum in Los Angeles
Well BB is killing that great sounding kit which i appreciate. This is definitely a change from Close To The Edge.
IloveAll the Incarnations of KC because they are ALL Great!
eight days earlier I heard this song as a world premiere in their concert in Udine
awesome, I have one song up from then ruclips.net/video/pjtXVmguoFI/видео.html
I was there
Vraiment on frissonne avec une seule noté Fripp ? Un génie personne n'y avait pensé ni avant ni après 😮
Stunning
I love this bass combinations!
one of the biggest and greatest influences on rock
Listening to this for the 10th time today. Wow this is an amazing version and the quality is superb!
one of the songs of all time
This meme only works when the thing is mid. This is unironically one of the best songs of all time in addition to being one of the songs of all time.
increible
Me faltan palabras.... increíble, sublime, una locura de música 👏👏
Fucking outstanding 🙌
KC is a brilliant reflection of an era. It’s a phantom asteroid who returns to set his sights on sound art. A stupendous wave laden with paradoxes from which obscurantism and the irrational escape, hypnotic factors defying vulnerable souls in search of the infinity. Their musical architecture is a translucid and short tunnel that leads to light
Best version, still with David...
A tune so great, they couldn't even wait for the lyrics to be finished before they started playing it.
Genial, el mejor KC
best lineup...imho
ALASBUENAS Otia Tôy Flipando Preciosa canción ❤ con ésos "(Adornos y Demás)
(Amâs APASALOBIEN TÛSYTÔS
Fripp ripps it
The coda of this epic masterpiece truly rivals Beethoven or Mozart etc ..
this is deffinitely different than posted version... and good, even without sax
Goddamn!
Bill Bruford is pretty insane... 7:05 listen to this!!!!
5:52
I suppose Fripp,Wetton Bruford Cross?
indeed, this was apparently about a week before Red came out, so that checks out
@Benjiroyoface this says it was recorded in March 74, and they recorded Red in July 74 (after David Cross had been sacked). Red was released in October 74, right after Fripp had killed KC off for the first time.
Is that a single drummer playing that stuff ???
Distinguished mr. William Bruford❤
You bet your bippy there, watched him in Central Park.
Don't quote me on this, but I think he was married.
When Bruford left KC, Fripp needed 3 drummers to play the stuff.
@@AP-sd1flThats a misconstruesion of why KC ended up having 3 drummers from 2013-2021. The history of having multiple drummers in KC predates Bruford's departure in the band. The early Larks' Tongues Line-up feature Bill and Jamie, the Discipline sometimes saw Adrian Belew on a drumkit alongside Bill, and the Double Trio era saw Bill and Pat as the drummers. The 2000-2003 era of band actually only had Pat Mastelotto on drums.
Fripp didn't want 3 drummers to make up for the loss of Bruford, all of KC's drummer at that point were beyond qualified to play Bruford parts.
This was my favorite KC lineup which for me is saying a lot because they were all great in their own way and style. Nobody can do the vocals on this song and do it justice as John Wetton did. RIP John.
The name Starless is of course borrowed from the poet Dylan Thomas, but I would like to point out that the French poet Maurice Blanchot also has the term Désastre, in English: starless.
Yeah, I'm not one for gushing in the comments usually (waaayyyy too much of that shit on yt as it is); nevertheless, I do find myself getting a bit emotional every time I hear this song, especially a new live version I've never heard before...
A lot of Fripp's stuff tugs at that string in my brain that's attached to the soundtrack of my dreaming.
We have a new tune we would like to perform for you, an instrumental we call “Starless and Bible Black” but first, a little dittie called Starless with lyrics that end with Starless and Bible Black. Guy in front row asks “Who’s on first?”
Fun scenario. Clarification just incase anyone thinks the song "Starless and Bible Black" was ever in the King Crimson setlist, it was improvised live on stage, just another "improv". The reason it features on the album "Starless and Bible Black" is because one of the main parts of that album is that half of it was composed of improv recorded live on stage. The album "Starless and Bible Black" is atleast 4/5 a live album in disguise, not much of it was made in a studio.
Starless and Ba Boo Bahhh
What instrument is that and who is playing it 8:04 ? also in 9:30?
David Cross on Violin or Viola .
This was the third wave king crimsons version of 21st century schizoid man
Why not hear Fripp guitar with the opening melody part? Guess too low in the mix….
Bill bruford I think
I started having fucking convulsions at the end
wow- the single-note guitar section almost swings. it’s “perky”, yeah.
This is the saddest Riff ever.
Great! But wtf is Wetton doing with the lyrics though? Ice blue silver shweid go through my eyes/ with our eyes still bleh to be? Starless and Bible black/ Old friend Golderold cool twisted smile/ shiv for dee hee hee hee to be... the man is clearly on drugs!
4 months prior to recording. He is still woodshedding them.
Simple lyrics to understand….what drugs are you on that you cannot comprehend them….maybe drugs are not your problem….maybe your brain just hurts….time to see Dr. Gumby.
they were still writing the song, lyrics varied pretty much in every performance
Shame about the volume levels…
My neighbors are complaining.
So there's that.
If only sung by Greg Lake 😢
Yes, Greg lake was an absolute monster of a vocalist. But, Wetton’s skill and contribution to the band shouldn’t be overlooked simply because he isn’t Greg Lake.
from all the great lineups from kc, this is the best (2nd era with Wetton and Cross) imho
larks and red are real masterpieces
Wetton´s voice was the best for this KC lineup.
@@cristianmolina8148
May as well go for the clean sweep. Larks, Starless And Bible Black, and Red.
We didn’t quite know how good we had it. We thought music like this was just going to continue, on and on. About a decade later, we knew.
@@frankhoulihanfh4972three monster albums that I always return to. I love KC but this was their standout era
A soft, bland cake without delicacies 🤮
the fuck are you talking about
Every live version with this lineup > the studio version