Yu-Gi-Oh! is in Danger: Banlist Predictions for a better Future!
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024
- Brothers and sisters of Yu-Gi-Oh! are in a dangerous situation, as EUWQC and NAWQC are approaching, and Fiensmith will be released soon. Therefore, we absolutely need a banlist to fine-tune and limit the most dangerous interactions that are on the horizon.
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Rank 6 is easy to make now, between bystials, superpoly targets and fiendsmith practically any deck can make it, Beatrice has to go
yes esp. since beatrice is both engine and an ftk device at a moments switch. like legit dont even need rollback, wtf will u do if they send black goat + keldo?
Also even if they somehow ban every card that makes beatrice a problem right now(fiendsmith, mayakashi trap, etc) it's only a matter of time before she becomes a problem again
@@an2wei I agree. It's the same kind of issue as Sanctifire. You can either ban the enabler or every single card they can send now and in the future. It's must easier to ban the root of the problem.
"You can call it bias, I am calling it plants"
You know what you’re right, I will also think like Konami: it’s partly the players fault for buying these broken cards and incentivizing Konami’s shitty behavior.
i wish they would errata sanctifire to only summon monsters that mention fallen of albaz
I have to agree, lingering effects definitely need to go. Because nothing leaves a worst taste in a players mouth than getting shiftered or maxx c by your opponent on their turn(shifter) or on your turn(maxx c) and then drawing the out(call by or crossout, more than likely call by since most decks can’t run shifter) while not being able to do anything about the effect due to the lingering effect. Which is incredibly stupid, considering a majority of the cards that have lingering effects can only be outted by certain cards.
i am 50/50 floodgates that effect 1 player shouldn't be allowed ones that effect both are fine because you have to build around the card as well. I'm completely stunned that these banlist predictions haven't put 2 and 2 together and realized hand traps are the very reason every deck looks the same and unless we check them the game doesn't change
Snake Eye Fiend Schmidt
I wanna see simorgh off the banlist as well. There's no barrier statue for years and he's still locked up, wtf?
assemblue robin will fall in for barrier statue
@@lz9275 yes simorgh getting you a monster at the ep and you just cheating a xyz on there turn such a play
My prediction, Sanctifire don't gonna be hitted.
I am a firm believer in banning Original Sinful Spoils. Makes the whole black witch engine a non-starter, which is exactly what's needed to stop the deck from being so oppressive. Poplar is no longer a real starter/extender, and handtraps would actually be more impactful as a result. Even outside of their consistency being hit, it would just stop the deck from playing 20+ non engine bc of the need to play more engine cards.
Ocg limited heavy storm.. It might be coming back
I hope not, we do not need more sacky auto win blowouts against the already weak back row decks.
@@gutenberg577It's my most hated card in the game, but I have to say, it's power level isn't what it used to be considering how most S/T have secondary eff in the GY and there's so many handtraps now that there is less incentive to set stuff. Now where I think it's a problem is using it on your own stuff.
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free mystic mine lmao😂
why not kill snake eye? fiendsmith will sell the same with or without snake eye. There are tons of other decks that require the engine, some even more profitable. Like, snake eye already sold, yubel, on the other hand still needs to sell. there's no reason at all to leave snake eye not slaughtered
Mega tins
Ulti Ash I guess
You forgot isolde unban 😎
The issue with hitting Prosperity is that decks are already consistent enough but we need the payoff for digging for boardbreakers as there aren't as many good ones.
Nah. The probability of just being able to search a silver bullet in the format of a floodgate, or whatever answer you need Leeds to toxic enough gameplay
Agree with everything except Fenrir. Spot on with all explanations but Fenrir being a body that is generic to all decks that will turn an eye, just needs to be limited or semi-limited. This card does some serious work for free IMO. However I play Branded and agree with Sanctifire going too.
Appo will definitely 100% not get banned the next list cuz they literally just printed her in QCR lol
Remember baronne.
@@METAK188 ok but that was like 5 months later at least so probably not going to be on the next list
Appolousa ban but return it with an errata. Keep the rest of its effect but must require FOUR different named EFFECT monsters so you have to commit hard for it.
Sanctifire ban but return it with an errata. Can now be targeted, so it can be impermed.
I love Calamity because I play RDA but it should be banned and return with another errata. Can only be summoned on your own turn, cannot be cheated out.
Ban Beatrice but return it with an Errata. Locks you to fiend monsters for the whole turn (not for the rest of the turn), until your opponent's end phase.
I really don't want crossout touched in the TCG tbh. I really hate Hand Traps because of how lame they are when you get hit with them. Crossout and Called By are the only viable ways of stopping these cards and having CO and CBTG being at to one is just gonna make the next problematic hand trap run rampant.
Banned to 0
Albion The Sanctifire Dragon
Promethean Princess, Bestower of Flames
Knightmare Gryphone
Kashtira Unicorn
Limited to 1
Skill Drain
Limited to 2
Called By The Grave
Gold Sarcophagus
Reasoning
Fiendsmith salva Beatrice e Apollousa;e fa esplodere Unicorn (alternativa economica)
Seppur Drain deve esplodere, i Flood sono positivi al gioco. Gryphone con Fiendsmith (Bea) invece no.
Gold Sarco per RB e Reaspning per ibridi Noid
Crossout isn’t getting touched the card is completely fair and helps every deck in the game be able to play
finaly some1 who actually knows the current and next format problem cards 100/100 accurate prediction gj
i agree 99% of what your saying but i dont see skill drain getting hit like yes its annoying but it people still found ways to play around, its good but its not that good to get hit to 1 lmao 😂
free sharvara
If we’re even talking about banning Beatrice we need to unban laval chain
Sanctifire will never be banned. Konami loves branded too much. Trust me, they will ban the puppet or the other targets instead.
handtraps will be necessary rather than good. cause too many ftks are available. gonna be incredibly miserable if no major hits are made.
If you ban gimmick puppet the fusion can’t send it and the other targets can only be send by branded fusion or be countered by enemy/droplet
yea idk why nesh did not consider that all the other locks are way worse
Puppet is banned. Okay. Now we use Ido the Supreme Magical Force. Your idea is braindead. Sanctifire is the only thing that’s still the problem.
They can just send Ido which does nearly the same thing. Or DD Orthros against none Yubel decks. The play style will still be the same
@@luscens The thing is you should not be able to lock your opponent out of the game. I dont know how you Branded stans dont get that.
Ah yes,just draw the droplet..Good plan.The Solution should be very simple.Just ban all 3 of the Floodgates along with a Dark and Light barrier Statues.i Don't see why is it so hard to ban some cards that should have been banned 5 years ago or that should have never existed.
Get the pitch and forks ready boys
But 20 hand traps in every 40 card deck is ok. That's not insufferable at all.🎉
Sanctifire gets the ban hammer so we get Branded White Woods that uses cards Branded Etude and Shaddoll Winda packages to create floodgates LMAO. Snake Eye players will end up using some other card instead of Skill Drain to do the exact same thing. It'll be funny to watch.
Apollousa prolly gets hit eventually, but I don't think Apollousa is the problem. The problem is the amount of card advantage one Snake Eye Ash or one Wanted generates at basically no cost. The Fiendsmith engine generates a ton of card advantage too off one card, but it eats up at least a third and up to a half of your extra deck space. Until we get Wanted, Bonfire, and Snake Eye Ash to 1, Snake Eye will be dominating the meta.
Do you have a list for Branded White Woods? That sounds interesting.
@@AdroNier I don't (my current deck is snake eye fire king with a high engine count), but I've seen other lists that do. You can find decklists of it on Google.
I agree with basically everything but especially with fenrir like it’s not that broken
N3sh could you see the prank kids meow meow be released this august banlist??
Also something against handtraps and gimmick puppet how about called by the grave to 2 ? And maybe red reboot back too? Would love to hear your opinion on this
Tier 0 formats are weird, i think you kinda need cards like crossout
Beatrice deffo needs to go that card enables far too much degen stuff I agree with everything tbh
I cant see a good reason to ever touch oss, limiting wanteds a good idea since diabellstar's gonna be a 1 card starter for Anazima too.
But summoning a lvl 1 fire monster isnt the problem!
Rescue-ace, Infernoble, T.g. and whichever other deck has lvl 1 fire starters arent problematic decks, the problem is very specifically the fact its too good in snake-eye, that problem can be fixed by just banning poplar.
The deck becomes a 2 card combo deck with a much lower cieling, instead of snash being full combo, you're gonna want snash + oss access to do a much more interuptable combo that wont have the field spell as backup for nibiru.
Ban poplar and snake-eyes becomes fair, we also just ban grave squirmer and we balance out yubel as well
Not to mention grave squirmer is a common so konami can defend themselves by saying it wasnt expensive
Bruh banning oss limits deck building because your pet fire deck can’t access a level 1? Diabellstar loses value in deckbuilding outside fire decks because she has a third effect and around 9 different sinful spoils to set. How is that also not a limit to deckbuilding?
@@greenhillmario name a good one aside from oss and the azima spell
Decks being consistant isnt a problem, decks having an unhealthy ammount of bodies is a problem due to the link pool being so wide
Banning poplar and squirmer makes both decks fair and opens up the meta game for many more decks without completly killing either archetype
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sorry but summon sorceres is not good even with the errata. I see her as a problem card like beatrice. Cards that give easy access to cards cause problems.
Hear me out: Barrage and Drident to 1 next banlist
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if they ban apo, Beatrice and hit snake eyes then sanctifier needs to go. Mirrorjade for 3 is still insane
There is no point in running 3 Mirrorjade cuz you can only control one on the field and Branded extra deck space is already tight. If Sanctifire gets banned, Branded players will use a Shaddoll package (El Shaddoll Winda) and cards like Etude with White Woods combos to floodgate opponents or even Thunder Dragon Colossus. Branded has so many ways to impose floodgates on opponents. It's not just a one trick pony.
@@dudeman209😂 bro he meant you can mirrorjade up to 3 times per a turn with things like rindbrum, ad lib, and quem recycling or making a second mirror jade
@@Verum_XXII Oh yes, I've done that before. But it's pretty easy to stop. The key to the entire combo is quem.
time waiit for late august
is sanctifyre really the problem? or is it branded lost?
Sanctifire for sure
Branded Lost? Sanctifire is the problem. Take out puppet and Branded will just use a different target. Plus Sanctifire has 3K ATK, untargetable and cannot be used as fusion material. You cannot imperm nor super poly it. You gotta have a droplet or something that removes puppet from the GY like Called By, Bystials or D.D Crow. I will welcome Sanctifire back to the game with an errata.
bring back the cat
very good list
the format is...shit is what I was expecting.
no dragon rulers? Nesh is cooked
Nice video, but I didn't enjoy the background music, too energic, would prefer a more chilled vibe
plz enlighten me included how hitting plants, branded,prosperity, synchro and another floodgate fixes the meta it really just seems like you absolutely love tier zero and hate everything rogue
1. he proposes to hit the high tier decks, 2. most of the arguments were about the healthiness of the decks and their gameplay, without going into the discussion if this meta is healthy, sanctifire locks are not healthy, calamity locks are not healthy, floodgates are not healthy. Healthy as in promote interactive games. Prosperity is an issue because of the explained scenario: Konami hits consistency of tier 0 deck, tier 0 deck goes aight, add prosperity to my deck, consistency fixed.
And plants really functions the exact same way as snake eye. either they get their gigalodon combo off and you cannot play through it or you have the handtraps that win, limiting jasmine doesnt kill plants, it just makes handtraps have more impact
lol, you didn't forget about the farfa contest
If sanctifire gets hit and we still have any of beatrice, calamity, flamberge in the game, imma loose my shit
You have fair but unrealistic expectations, there are reasons to want all of them hit but there are very rational reasons to not expect beatrice hit, reasons that come from konami selling products.
Being disappointed on unrealistic expectations is your fault.
I don't believe Beatrice or Appo hit is any less realistic than sanctifire. If anything more chances they get hit. Flamberge probably different story.
@@Micho800 why would they ban Beatrice Now in july when she's used by the engine they want to sell? And she's used by EVERY list that runs the engine?
OCG didn't ban Beatrice and theyve had fiendsmith for months.
How are you so naive as to think they Will hit Beatrice?
@@Al-tanin so ppl actually use Dis Irae!? I see your point for sure. But banning Beatrice wouldn't be unheard of tho. Ex: Link1 when Super heavy stuff came out.
@@Micho800 yeah sometimes Konami pulls out random stuff, but superheavy was unexpensive, so they had no issue hitting it
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Yeah im sure banning Beatrice will save the dead game run by a crappy pachinko company that has a mentally ill fan base
Spright is definitely getting hit hard.
Why?
Please bring back sharvara
Apo won’t get banned at least for one or two more lists, if at all. Beatrice wont get banned yet but in like 2 banlists, it definitely should be. I doubt sharvara will come back to more than 1. The card is insane, it enables so much.
I wish trough fiendschmitt 😂 we get a emergency banlist After euros! This Game is so unplayable of u Not playing fiendschmitt with snack eyes or Yubel brick fick
There won't be an emergency list. Konami said they are putting up the list at the end of August.
@@e-tan3911 i know i saw the Post but i hope
Listen might be a hot take …only way to bring balance to a lot of this bs in this game is bring back Called to the Grave to 3…idk why it was even smart to hit it …how you supposed to fight back …or even know when to use your cards wisely in an exchange or push in fair contest …ultimately unban everything…cause if everything is so degenerate one after another in each format …let them fight to see the most what the most degenerate lol
Put called by to 3 and suddenly these obnoxious combos are even MORE likely to happen because they blank your handtraps.
Unbanning everything just means tear 0 again. This experiment has been done 5000 times over in the ocg and every time it's Tear 1 Dlink kinda 2nd place and everything else sucks. Stop asking for this all the damn time.
@@e-tan3911 no have the effects go off in the grave one and your stopping more than just hand traps …if you and the opponent knowingly have this card YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BE SMART IN YOUR EXCHANGE OF CHAINS …meaning you gotta think with your brain …also tier 0 formats existed way before the card so idk where that part came from you ….cause it’s about to be one now regardless if the card was unbanned or not …you so worried about hand traps are they gonna save from this tier 0 format ?…and that was joke …but real problem is y’all got baby level skills …with baby hands …and complain about everything…not cause it’s not fair cause y’all don’t win …and 9x10 that’s the only think y’all are good at …why are y’all always crying lol …lmao free Masterpiece…lol
@@e-tan3911 and call is at 2 in the Ocg so Maxx C at 3 lol like are you being serious lol
Seriously though when the fuck in history has yugioh every card been unbanned cause I’ve been here since they gave to 2 started decks and a tape in Toys R Us lol
When THE FUCK THIS EXPERIMENT HAPPEN AT I WANNA KNOW 5000 times and I didn’t see that not once …man listen I’m waiting and I’m doing research cause I must live in the Mendela effect universe lol idk that shit made me laugh 😆
@@DEVILTRIGGRR 1. The 2nd part of my comment was about you saying to unban everything to see what was the most degenerate. The OCG has done this and it ends with Tear v Dlink every time.
2. I'm not gonna bother with the rest because you for some reason went straight to "lol u stupeeed" so it's clear you don't care about actually discussing this.
I play branded and only branded, i admit sanctifire is toxic. But at this point there's literally no other way of keeping up with modern engines, especially going second without floodgating the opponent. The recursion Yubel and snake eyes get after breaking their full board makes me sick. So I feel so justified when I give them the puppet
Im in the same position and mostly agree with you. Until branded is actually winning events i dont see why gimmick lock is more toxic than harbinger ip sp + 2 hand traps. In a perfect world we see everything toxic get hit, including sanc, but obviously they are hitting older cards first so we will just be screwed as branded players
@@brockfg yugioh is "my toxic shit vs your toxic shit" let's roll the dice. Sooner we accept, happier we'll be. So yes, I want to have my sanctifire because have these ppl even read Flamberge or phantom of yubel or the fiendsmith cards!?
i disagree on this list on many stuff
ban section seems fine to me, but I would two card just so that the format will refreshing (magnamhut and Sharvara)
limited felt like the cap section, ash got an ulti no way it will be limited
Wanted is getting a reprint, if you said at two I would have took it, but its not the case (but its the most realistic one if we leave everything else untouched)
im the kind of person that isnt impressed by crossout just because its seeing play now, and in ANY other format it wouldnt be played, best example previous formats ever since it was released.
reasoning and gate is TOO SCARY, I doubt konami has the ball for that (maybe only gate if im honest)
sure bring back one copy of air lifter, hell bring it at 3, for me, its emegency that needed the hit from the start
as for colossus, I am sorry, I have PTSD, I dont want it back (any droll kind of card needs to be banned for me at least, too unhealthy in modern day)
Not a consideration for shifter? It’s kind of phased out a bit but it kind of murders fiendsmith as an engine and if they do hit snake eyes in any capacity shifter is just better.
That card is still horrible to play against.
In all this chaos and literally tier 0 meta what did Jasmine do to you people? The deck that uses her is fully stoppable by any form of interrupt... People just don't know how the deck works and lose as a result
Unban simorgh!
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You should do me a favorrrrr and playyy lol 😂 tbh id pay for it .
Boo ban fenrir
Ban everything but bring my boy savage back
My god.. Can we please get back Heavy Metalfoes Elecumite... just to 1... Konami if you see this.. please..
Ban yama
My prediction is there will be no list :)
Bring back Kit, bring back electrumite!
I’d say bring back ariseheart but I know that will never happen 💔
free my buddy simorgh. also reasoning to 3 pls.
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Sanctifier will nevee get ban. Gimnick puppet is actually a problem, there is multiple ways to gimmick lock without sanctifier.
Sanctfire is the problem card. Special summon for free to your opponent is problematic by itself. There's literally many monsters with similar effects to gimmick puppet that you can use instead (ra's disciple, etc etc.).
@@NaoiMikami no other that puppet are such a problem
@@NaoiMikami bad reasoning
@@luscensYou say that because puppet is the best one. You ban
Puppet and they move onto the second/third best options.
What are the other ways? Give and Take? That shit is GARABGE. It’s only viable if Beatrice (a long banworthy card) is legal.
Handtraps make the game very boring
crossout is not going to one ur crazy people because we all know one's again yu gi oh players I am going to right watch
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very good list