Evolution Is A Theory With Many Holes
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2023
- Rick from Canada believes that the theory of evolution is full of many holes including that Forrest can’t disprove talking donkeys, horses, and snakes.
The Atheist Experience 27.01 for January 8, 2023 with Forrest Valkai and Dave Warnock
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I worked all the time with snakes who could talk, until I decided to stop working for the financial industry.
Lol
@Brandon Letzco lawyers aren’t bad as a whole, it’s the big law firm lawyers that are bad, funnily enough they also work a lot with banks and insurance.
I bet they never ask you how your day was either.
Politics and specially the white house is full of talking snakes.
I have also chatted with talking snakes….but then I came down.
This is what happens when you 'learn' biology from a Christian, faith based, school 'textbook' taught by your home-schooling, Biblically based mother. What could go wrong?
Evolution? There is no new anatomy differing from ancestry (evolution) - not ever. There's been no new anatomy in humans, chickens or horses for +/- 10,000 yrs and there never will be, because matter only loses information; there's never a gain of information (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution). Those lies have never been observed, because they're IMPOSSIBLE.
Proof of God is easy: All matter/life in the universe (including any multiverse) is contiguous/under the same laws/LOSING INFORMATION/decaying in disorder and goes only in one direction: bad to worse. We observe this fact over time, when women can’t have babies anymore, our vision is no longer 20/20, our hearing ability weakens. We continue to decay & eventually lose enough information to arrive at our end (heat death). In every moment of our life, we don’t gain information, but we decay/experience a relentless loss of INFORMATION and we are DYING, as part of FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy).
Humans, chickens & horses have had the same anatomy for 10,000 yrs. There’s not going to be SUDDEN NEW ANATOMY (evolution) appear before your eyes. There's no such thing as NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution). That’s why NONE of it has ever been observed or proved to be possible. That means there’s no such thing as “natural processes” adding NEW INFORMATION. An entity that only LOSES INFORMATION will not be able to provide NEW INFORMATION (evolution).
EVERYTHING is dying, therefore our cause has to be a NON-DYING, INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL entity (God). There’s no other option. And God takes credit for creation (finite time/space/matter/energy) in the very first verse of the Bible (see below). It’d be cause to pause, if atheists had a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality, but they don’t. That’s because God is real.
“In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) & the earth (matter/energy).” - Genesis 1:1
@@neverendingparty7741 "What could go wrong?"
I assumed that what could go wrong didn't need explaining. You obviously thought otherwise.
Why would you call me out like this?!?
That’s not completely accurate. It’s when someone is given the barest information regarding biology, evolution, geology and other sciences and now believes what they know is the end all of information available. As they do not have the majority of information, they, therefore, fail to understand how certain conclusions could be drawn from it and so easily accept the supernatural explanation. People, like Rick, refuse to accept they are lacking in anything, whether it’s knowledge or understanding the reasoning behind scientific theories. They are skeptical of the theories of evolution because it would mean others know more than them; are able to understand more than them; are intellectually better than them. The talking snake puts everyone on the same playing field and the feeling of superiority comes from the fact they believe in the talking snake and are therefore chosen and those that don’t believe will either be left behind or punished.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 A lack of information. Plain and simple. In my case, over 4 and a half decades. For sure. Way before the internet. It sucks they atill spill misinformation. Smarter people know better. Millions of us are here. They hate that. If it comes to a fight, they will lose politically really. As usual. Why most people, do not vote for Republican conservatives. Most of the time. 🤣😂🤣😂 for years. They get a slim majority. They really won't do anything. As usual. Putting idiots on committees only makes them look, more stupid. They should vote against McCarthy. As an idiot put in charge. I find the Republicans in charge of the house, stupidy by voters. Dem should vote him out. For America.
Forrest never gets upset, he just smiles at you and hammers you with knowledge and logic.
Unless you think slavery is ok then he starts to get heated but yes Forrest is awesome and super knowledgeable
You bear a striking resemblance to Curly Howard😁
@@jimd6641 I get that a lot.
Oh he does, there is a video of some moron from florida where he talks about how slavery is not that bad and forrest goes nuclear.
That's what working with facts gets you
Forrest is a national treasure. So knowlegable and articulate.
He knows zilch
@R L "He knows zilch"
What is your exploration for the origin of life on this planet and what evidence do you have that proves your claim?
@@rl7012 Whatever you say, Professor some dude on RUclips xD
@@rl7012 You mean, you know zilch compared to Forrest.
He's brilliant but I think he has a tendency to alienate people due to speaking over their heads. You're not going to be able to reason with someone if you can't meet them on their own intellectual level.
I have been watching this show for a long time. One observation I have noticed is that Religion limits an individual's willingness to learn. Religion limits intellect.
If you think you've been given privileged knowledge by a supernatural being (or their spokespeople), why bother asking more questions.
There are scientists who would tell you that they were willing to learn because of their faith. So your observation seems incorrect.
@@tooluser Because it's natural for people to ask more questions.
@@martinsoukup562 There are acceptations to all rules. "Seems" is subjective and I was talking about my personal experiences so...
@@jackfrost3573 you worded it in a way that suggests objectivity. Yes i used the word "seems" on purpose to show it's my subjective opinion. What's your point about the word "seems"?
As a Canadian, I feel the urge to say "Sorry about that guy". We have our Bible thumpers, too.
Our condolences...
You have a good example of a talking snake in the form of Justin Trudeau.
I blame your neighbours.
Why are you apologizing? He's the nicest Bible Thumper I've ever heard speak.
@@finbarrsaunders8688 Russia?
Forest:"Let me answer every issue you discussed."
Caller:"Nah dawg you're wrong though" (gives basically zero evidence)
So random dude who thinks snakes are physically capable of speech wants to argue biology with a biologist.
Why do you think he thinks that?
And he's a skeptic....🤨
@@martinsoukup562 the dude himself said that did you not watch the video
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu where in the video did he say that?
@@martinsoukup562 he literally said he thinks the story of Adam and Eve and the magic talking serpant was real and literal. Try actually watching the video
I’m sceptical of the caller’s understanding of the definition of words.
Most theists don't understand simple definitions or simply lie about them.
Most theists (especially in the threads) are simple.
In theist-talk, words mean whatever they want them to mean, subject to change at any time.🤡
The Bible and their favorite scholars tell them what words mean. Reality never gets a chance. (Former believer)
@@FourDeuce01 Yes for sure, they have to! otherwise, their magic world would fall apart.
Relevant quote of the day, No. 37.
"It's difficult to argue with an expert. It's IMPOSSIBLE to argue with an idiot!!"
Let me guess the Ferengi Rules of Adquisition 69?
@@Angelum_Band There isn’t a RoA #69, at least not in live action ST.
@@ajclements4627 it went up to like 285 or something like that, so there must be a 69th rule
Neither Dave nor Forrest just cracked up and laughed uncontrollably, I find this to be impressive.
I thought I was going to crack a rib when Forrest smartly pointed out "wait, so you think snakes CAN talk!?" and Rick had to backpedal like a mufucka LOL!!!!
I just love the pure joy that oozes from Forrest when he talks about biology 😊
He's never had to get decent electron microscope images of the insides of cells.
@@notreallydavid
He works with Homo erectus remains at University of Tulsa to reconstruct their paleo environments to make inferences on their paleo climate. So, I don't know if he's going that small.
*I've yet to meet a layman who disputes Evolution because he's impartial and weighed the evidence. To a man, everyone I've encountered who does so, does because he's wedded to a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age Creation myth that he's decided is revealed truth.*
Wrong. It's very easy to debunk the farce of evolution and go on to prove the entire cult of atheism is a lie:
1. You have no RATIONAL POSSIBLE coherent step-by-step atheist explanation for NOTHING to MAN existence. A mud puddle or moist rock didn't violate the 2nd law/Adamic Sin Curse by gaining complexity/new information & come from NOTHING & give rise to a first cell that had systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce. NEITHER did that cell have the DNA blueprints for 10 million DIFFERENT species that MINDLESS, NON-PURPOSED, NEVER OBSERVED evolution came out of nowhere to diversify.
Genesis (Creation) is already proven by science because we already know that all life had to have all bodily systems present and intact to survive, and that's why we know all life had to be created SUDDENLY and not in stages by a MINDLESS, NEVER-OBSERVED process (evolution).
2. A cell cannot form from a cooled down rock that got rained on, much less have within the systems to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move breathe and reproduce. You have no RATIONAL, POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality, because there isn't one.
3. The 2nd law forbids all atheist ideas (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, evolution, mutations that make the host better, star formation) that require a gain of complexity/new information, because a gain of complexity/new information is impossible due to the 2nd law/Adamic Sin Curse. NONE OF IT has ever been proven to be possible, much less observable/demonstrable via any scientific experiment.
4. A cell can't from from “Primordial Soup” and have with it the DNA blueprints for 10 million species. THIS IS REQUIRED if you're going to get 10 million species from a cell.
5. There is no transitional evidence on any fossil or living specie. NEVER has there been new anatomy differing from ancestry. The gene pool of ancestry is the limit of variation and is another fact that makes evolution impossible.
6. Atheists finding some extinct animal, saying it’s “TRANSITIONAL” and placing it in some assumed pattern and calling such a fact for evolution, is not science whatsoever, but SPECULATIVE ASSUMPTION, which is all atheism really is. You have to BELIEVE in evolution and the rest of the ideas of atheism (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation), because nobody has ever seen it. Yet TRUE NATURE (e.g. gravity, flower bloom, reproduction, sunshine) is readily observed. Try to learn.
@@neverendingparty7741 --- *Atheism doesn't posit ANYTHING other than that theists haven't met their burden of proof. Therefore, your objections, 1-6, valid or invalid, aren't applicable to atheism.*
*That said, this observer thinks Evolution DOES provide the most plausible explanation for this planet's biodiversity. If you have a better explanation, I'd love to hear it. But Bronze Age creation myths certainly do not.*
*Even if Science someday supplants Evolution as the foremost theory for life on earth with one that better supports the data, that doesn't mean theists have met their burden of proof. They haven't. As a default position, 'That gods must have done it' is ludicrous.*
Well yes. That's because the evidence is hard to ignore. Change in inherited characteristics across generations happens and is easy to see. Everything else is just arguing over mechanisms and their significance.
That has been told and retold for a thousand years before being written down and recopied and edited for 2 thousand years..... all guided by the hand of their invisible friend to make sure it is perfect and accurate. So where was the invisible hand of the omniscient one when the wicked bible was published? "Thou shalt commit adultery" proves that transcription is not driven by the hand of the god-botherers' invisible friend.
You can be honest, you can understand how evolution works, or you can deny that evolution is real, but you can only do two of these at the same time.
"I'm a true skeptic at heart... and there was a talking snake" 🤣😂🤣
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 1st, By definition ALL species are transitional species.
2nd, why are you asking this of an anonymous internet person? A simple search on "Prokaryote Fossils" will yield SUNY, NIH, UOCB. You could also read the paper: "A genomic timescale of prokaryote evolution: insights into the origin of methanogenesis, phototrophy, and the colonization of land" - Battistuzzi, et al.
All of the answers to your questions are published. You just have to want the answers bad enough to look for them.
So... Question Time: With the OVERWHELMING evidence for Evolution, you're going to tell me magical Blue Bogeyman Daddy did done it? And your evidence for that is?? Your book of Fables? Do you also believe a rabbit challenged a tortoise to a race? Pffft!
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Nothing better to do than spam?
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
Why are people so quick to believe in things with no evidence based solely on faith but fight so hard against peer reviewed facts with decades of collected evidence behind them.
It never ceases to amaze me, the sheer arrogance creationists display when trying to argue with actual subject-matter experts on topics they CLEARLY don't understand the first thing about.
Nothing fuels arrogance better than ignorance.
So Rick from Canada can simply write a scientific paper describing those holes, submit it to a scientific journal for peer review, and collect his Nobel Prize.
It's so funny that after all these years, no religion or religious person has ever done it and actually win a noble prize.
They want to teach that crap to our kids in school also.
It wouldn’t win a noble prize as the holes are common knowledge and numerous. Of course holes don’t falsify the theory but you can’t say they don’t exist. Personally I think the theory of evolution/ modern synthesis needs a big fat downgrade to a hypothesis which I think it will get in the none to distant future as the evidence doesn’t support it. To clarify when I say evolution I mean the idea that all life has a universal common ancestor and has evolved primarily through the process of natural selection acting upon random mutation
@@houstandy1009doesn't matter what you think, evolution has been proven time and time again. There is no scientific theory on earth that has more evidence than evolution, including the theory of gravity. Yes you're going to have holes on fossil records, 99 per cent of all life that has ever existed is now extinct. Humans will never know every single animal that has ever existed, every time you find a missing link you find 3 more missing links you previously didn't know about. Nothing is going to change that.
@@houstandy1009Which holes would those be? Because Rick didn't identify any... he just showed his poor understanding of evolution.
I love how Forrest just bombards morons with facts and they have NOTHING to say in response.
Yeah, they usually just restate their original idea like they're still right even though they were just destroyed.
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 the evidence for is in your own cells cloroplasts and mitochondria each contain their own DNA and multiply independently of your own cells. It's the easiest argument to make as I am quite tired at the moment
@@isdrakon9802 Incorrect. 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Delete
What always killed me about the "why are there still monkeys" people was them thinking scientists who spend their whole lives studying this stuff wouldn't notice something so blatantly obvious. This is maybe one step above that. Just another science denier with no background in the field arrogantly thinking they've thought of something the experts haven't.
Which sums up most conspiritards, flat earthers, gravity deniers........they're always poorly educated, low-intellect underachievers that believe they can debunk the entire world of science, geology and everything else that supports what we know about the universe (at the moment).
Still waiting the researcher to discover a 50,000 years old pyramid and all this human evolved from monkey theory can be put aside.
@@andanandan6061 Who says humans evolved from monkeys?
@@andanandan6061 "Still waiting the researcher to discover a 50,000 years old pyramid..." What would a 50,000 year old pyramid tell us about evolution?
@@andanandan6061 You know humans were around 50,000 years ago, right?
Best line I ever heard Dave. You believe in talking snakes but your a skeptic Lmao and the guy said yes lol
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 what is the evidence for hydrogen being created by a god?
Rick didn't even realise how absurd that is.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 The evidence comes not from the fossils, but from molecular and cellular evidence:
1. Mitochondria and chloroplasts have double membranes, unlike typical cells, this indicates that they are a result of the fusion of two membranes. This only makes sense with Endosymbiosis.
2. Mitochondria and Chloroplasts have their own separate DNA, with their own genes and others borrowed from the host cell. Their genes are similar to those of some bacteria.
3. Their genomes are stored in a circular fashion just like other Prokaryotes (Bacteria and Archaea) and unlike their host cells.
4. Mitochondrial DNA is more similar to that of Rickettsial bacteria than that of other bacteria.
5. Chloroplasts are also very similar to some bacteria, specifically Cyanobacteria.
6. Both Chloroplasts and Mitochondria reproduce by binary fission and not by mitosis, much like Bacteria and very unlike their host cells.
The evidence only makes sense if eukaryotes evolved from the union of prokaryotic organisms. This process is called endosymbiosis.
given that single celled and even early multi-celled organisms would have had a terrible time fossilizing it would be nearly impossible to find any transitional fossil of them, the only exception being stromatolites.
The way this guy absolutely asserts all this bs that has been painfully carved in his brain, is quite scary.
Much credit to these two hosts for having the fortitude to deal with such callers. They have my admiration.
Christians make me bang my head against a brick wall, and frankly, I've suffered enough skull fractures to last me a lifetime.
And a lot of *patience*
Poor guy. Forrest's brilliance is probably wasted on him.
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect. 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 I'm not the best person to ask, but the thing is I'm actually a biology student, so I do know a little bit. There's some pretty interesting evidence pointing to the first eukaryotes being amalgamations or "fusions" of multiple prokaryotes. In fact, it's pretty widely accepted that mitochondria and chloroplasts are actually the remnants of once-independent prokaryotes. Look up Endosymbiotic Theory to learn more from actual experts.
My question for you is, even if we don't know everything about the history of life on Earth, how does that prove a God?
Forrest has met another brick wall of willful ignorance.🤤
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 No, child, it’s not question time. It’s time for theists to either prove their imaginary god exists or admit they can’t.🤤
I am in ae of Forrests knowledge and articulation. He doesn't treat callers as idiots ans is calm and respectful. Amazing to watch.
People arguing against the existence of evolution inevitably leads to them demonstrating that they haven't even the slightest functional understanding of what it actually is
Forrest’s knowledge is phenomenal and he articulated it so well!! A masterclass in debate
Don't be silly. Forrest is CLUELESS. The lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is IDNFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
@@neverendingparty7741. Atheism is completely separate from evolution and is a LACK of belief in a single proposition that gods exist.
Even if someone did come along with absolute proof that evolution is false, it still doesn’t get you one step closer to proving the existence of a timeless creator.
“I don’t know” is a far more honest answer than something for which there is ZERO evidence!
It’s the god of the gaps!
Forrest is going to be the next science superstar as his exposure grows.
He appears to be very knowledgeable of a number of different fields.
That’s what the world needs
Almost never happens to biologists and people in earth sciences, the mainstream ones are almost always astronomers, physicists or engineers. Dawkins is the only well known mainstream biologists but that's mainly for his atheist activism.
Biology, ecology and earth sciences are sadly not that popular, probably because they just don't get as much mainstream promotion as astronomy and physics.
@@klocke5247
His undergrad degree focused on multiple scientific fields.
He currently works at a lab at University of Tulsa studying Homo erectus remains to learn about their paleo environments to learn about their paleo climate.
"two major problems with what you just said"
Totally agree with Forrest, he spoke and we heard it, both major problems.
I love Forrest's personality and ability to explain things so much
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509
Get well soon!
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Irrelevant.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 This is the only question Ultra Instinct Goku knows. He repeats it over and over throughout the comments section, but he doesn't actually know the correct answer. He is a troll.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
Forest makes me want to go back and study biology. These two make quite a team. I have to go back and watch this full episode now.
This guy arguing with Forrest is like a guy who brings a knife to a gunfight.
Wow, dunning kruger much? I love how confident Rick is in his ignorance.
"Confident?" Says the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.
It boils down to this: If they accept evolution, then their entire belief system disintegrates. It would mean that the Bible isn't actually the word of god.
Yes, I'm a skeptic, but only on evolution. Wow, just wow! Forrest is worth watching for the educational value alone.
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 What?? 🤣🤣
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Oh good, more spam.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
So much fascinating stuff here including cave salamanders losing eyes and vestigial limbs on whales. Forrest is very knowledgeable and can easily answer any questions on evolution. The losing eyes part is scary.
You guys need to use mute a bit more. You are careful to let the caller finish, but the minute you try to answer they jump in to derail things. Mute there butts and tell them flat out "we let you finish, we expect the same courtesy".
Yes, pull the Dillahunty on their asses.
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Question time: WTF does that have to do with them not muting a rude caller? Do you just not understand what my comment actually said? Or did you just want to sound smart and can't understand how a comment could be about behaviour? You believe your specific example is unprovable, so that trumps everything and completely dismantles what is likely the most supported theory in science. (You realize it isn't all just what fossils have been found, right,?)
@@randolphphillips3104 it's a troll. It doesn't reason or have a logic and adult conversation.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
Annihilated him with science.
They annihilated me with science!
*funky keyboards*
Sweet as any harmony
Poetry in motion
Science? Science points directly to God. GOD DID IT. The proven lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) have NOTHING to do with “science” whatsoever, as NONE of the lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) can be tested, measured or observed (scientific method). All of the lies of atheism (big bang, abiogenesis, evolution) go hand-in-hand for the atheist DELUSIONAL explanation of existence. You can’t have 1 atheist lie without the other 2 atheist lies. NONE of which have YOU PERSONALLY EVER SEEN. So you can STOP w/ the “certainty” attitude. ALL your atheist ideas are easily debunked, as I have proved and will continue to prove ad nauseam.
Caller: Snakes are the only proof of lost limbs
Me who got his degree on genetics by writing about the vestigial limbs of whales: oooh I really hope Forr...
Forest: did you know that Whales...
Very happy
Caller says, "I'm a skeptic," and he believes in a literal talking snake in a religious myth in a religious book.
Which means he doesn't even know what the word "skeptic" means.
Forrest and Dave is why I'm watching TAE again. Love these humans.
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
I thought you said Tate and I about lost it
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 where's your video of Jesus resurrecting?
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
Forest stays so calm when faced with such intentional ignorance.
My boy Forrest is WICKED SMART!
Forest is one of the best things that’s happened to this show ngl
Don't be silly. Forrest has ZERO ANSWERS. The asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS and yet it's lost & clueless NO ANSWER followers cling desperately to that garbage.
@@neverendingparty7741 ok bro
I was hoping Forrest would bring up whales as soon as Rick claimed that snakes were the only evidence of vestigial structures.
And humans have tail bones
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Again, you’re spamming a question rather than putting in effort.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
The really sad thing is the guy was saying it's the only real evidence because the bible has a story about a snake.....
THIS is why Forrest is one of my heroes in this field!
A very quick recollection of excellent verified examples of what is talked about, is not easily frustrated with individuals when discussing, and is rarely shooting someone down for not understanding. Actually he never does that. Only when it’s understood that they don’t want to understand. And not least, he is genuinely interested in learning, discussing, understanding different views and helping others understand why facts are, in fact, facts. ❤
I like how the caller used literal snakes and their vestigial structure as evidence for the genesis then when asked if he actually believed in talking snakes, he dodged and fell back to a metaphorical serpent. Surprised they didn't pin him down on that one.
Because a snake and serpent are the same thing, but no matter what he'd claim ignorance. After arguing with people like this long enough you already know what the argument will be like by the first few sentences
There was just too much stupid to all pin down...
@@isdrakon9802 no they're not. A serpent is any kind of elongated lizard like animal, even Comodo dragons were called serpents. Snakes are a sub set of serpents, with serpent being an incredibly vague non biological term, while snake has an actual biological definition.
But yeah, he was totally dodging.
"My bible is literal and inerrant, but if you prove it contains obvious errors it's clearly metaphorical!"
It is refreshing to have someone so knowledgeable about biology debate evolution- Forrest elevated this debate far beyond what I’m used to hearing when the average person debates evolution. It was a nice bonus to learn some fun facts about vestigial structures too!
His in-depth knowledge reminds me of Aron Ra (who is also a snake expert i believe) but Forrest has a little more of a lighter/conversational tone. Love AR and these hosts.
I had a pet snake who I named Slippery Sam, until one day he spoke and told me his name was Philip .... talking snakes, who knew!? Next thing he wanted a PS5
Never give a snake a PS5. It is almost as bad as giving a drummer a microphone. It always ends in tears.
🤣🤣🤣
Can Forrest get angry? 😂😆
I feel like his opponents become even more angry at the fact that he remains so calm despite their attempts to get a reaction out of him and I’m here for it! ❤️
He's not listening. Forest mentioned evolution in labs (with bacteria or flies or whatnot) and he just blew past it to "my neanderthal point".
Not a skeptic, not a learner.
Dave was quick with the 'no', no hesitation. Absolute legend.
Ive been waiting to hear Forest really get his teeth into his specialist subject with someone and that really hit the mark spot on 👌 it was quite literally one of funniest yet highly informative conversations ive ever listened to. You two are such a good pairing possibly the best on this and your kindred channels.
Wow! Aside from being caught up in the psychoanalysis of the caller's psycho-epistemic method of cognitive suppression, I learned that Whales and Deer are related through the Artiodactyl family! Thanks Forrest!
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 so you buy your slaves from the countries around you like god told you?
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 fossil evidence for Jesus please
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Why don’t you look it up? If you can type that here why not do some research of your own? Or like the caller, do you expect others to take the burden of your learning?
@@chillinsquirtle Incorrect. 😇
I believe in the book that says snakes and donkeys can talk, but slow and gradual change over time, that apparently is more difficult. lol
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Got anything other than spam?
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 incorrect
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 The evidence WAS in the Bible, in the bits that got taken out so they could fit in the bits where girls get their dad drunk so they can have a 3 way with him, and then some men gang raped an angel that was staying on outskirts of town. Then some really nice dude came along and said "turn the other cheek and respect each other" but the authors wrote him out and replaced him with a bigot called Saul. In summary, go study biology.
I like how half way through his call where he does nothing but preach his faith, he makes sure to let you know he's a sceptical person
Skeptical about everything else but his own information. Religion is such a bad way to explain the world around us. For community religion works, but for understanding the natural processes around us.. Uh oh.
Talking snakes. English. Perfect diction. Donkeys ditto. Love it.
Bears, beets, battlestar galactica.
Talking snakes? Talking donkeys? You believe that humans are blobs of rearranged stardust and thus, you literally believe that stardust can talk :) Either there is a God, in which "talking snakes" and “floods” are no problem, or there isn't a God and you have to explain how the DNA blueprints of 10 million animals came from MINDLESS NOTHING. And How life, intelligence, love, consciousness and morality came from a mud puddle that came from NOTHING, instead of coming by someone who had the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE and MEANS to give these attributes to us in the first place - our living, intelligent, loving, conscious and moral God. Atheism is a stone cold stupid idea that’s not just debunked by these facts, but many others.
That was my question too. Like okay, I'll let Rick have his theory that "evolution (which he denies) could have given us talking snakes and donkeys" but he has to explain how those snakes and donkeys taught themselves (and/or each other) the language of Adam and Eve - whatever language it was they spoke. Over to you Rick...
@@sirbarryvee-eight6485 come on, surely you know what the response will be.
I’ve always wondered why these people don’t notice that people like Forrest are exponentially more knowledgeable about literally everything to do with evolution than they are, and maybe that should be a sign they don;t know what they’re talking about.
today was a stressful day. and on top of the thing i'm stressing about, i'm also currently at my religious family's and it's exhausting at times.
forrest does not know it, but today he helped me tremendously. his words are so refreshing, i feel like they're cleansing my mind. thank you atheist experience.
Caller thinks he's a skeptic, also only accepts evidence if it sort of fits with a story in his fairy tale book, while rejecting the exact same evidence for _everything_ else...
The funniest thing I have heard all day ... I'm a true skeptic
You must be the life of the party then lol!
QuestionTime: What's the evidence for prokaryotes evolving into eukaryotes and where's the fossils for the transitional species of prokaryotic species evolving into eukaryotic species? 😇
@@Angelum_Band I'm not sure that's how that works
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 Incorrect.
@Jebus Anti-Theist keep up the good work, I wonder how many accounts he has spamming the same nonsense?
Rick calls himself a skeptic but it's more accurate to call him a contrarian.
I hate callers that are not willing to grow and change That's got to be such a disappointing way to live life
13:00 “Well it was a serpent” 😂
Apparently the mistake isn’t accepting that some ancient holy book accurately documented a talking reptile within a story. The issue is that some people think that this talking reptile was a snake, when it was really a serpent.
That’s the true skepticism. 😆
I would like to hear Rick's explaination for why we humans have a tailbone.
We used to have longer tails, but we are down to only three except in our embryonic development. The three that remain secure other tissues that we need or they would probably be gone by now also.
For correct posture. Many muscles connect to the coccyx.
@@robertsparling And you are telling me this why?
@@Lupinemancer87 Because that is why we have a coccyx.
@@robertsparling And you are assume I didn't know that, why?
When I was 5 or 6 years old, my parents gave me books about Aesop’s fables, Mother Goose stories, Fairy tales, etc., and almost all of those stories had talking animals. I asked my Dad if animals can really talk, and he told me that it was make-believe (which I later labeled Suspended disbelief). I put those books on my make-believe shelf, along with Mickey Mouse, Peter Rabbit, and Winnie the Pooh. One day my Presbyterian grandmother gave me a book of Bible stories for children. In the very first story, I found a talking snake. That book went straight to the make-believe shelf, where it has remained for over 65 years.
Forrest works so hard to make things clear to callers that just are not capable of understanding or believing in the real world.
Rick is not playing with a full deck. Anytime anyone has to say "right' after childish comment or ludicrous point you just know Mother Hubard went to the cupboard but the cupboard was bare.
He's got the jokers, but that's all.
The produce aisle at your local grocery store would look a lot different if the principles of evolution didn't work.
"I am a skeptic. I question everything. Except my faith."
Okay then.
Another great lecture from Forrest!
As a Canadian this caller is most likely from Alberta. It’s basically Canadas Texas
Forrest has amazing information and a fantastic way of communicating it.
Dave is so inspiring . What amazing bravery . Love seeing him laugh
Isn't it distressing how people that call to debate Evolution obviously have not studied evolution? This is a crazy world.😞
It's so delightful to listen to Forrest teaching
I love listening to Forrest talk about biology and evolution, I always learn something. I had never heard of exaptation before.
Wow, someone really did not pay attention in school.
This was highly educational, I learned so much more about Evolution and zoology/paleontology. It was brilliant, thank you
Beautifully explained !
For a snake to talk intelligibly, I would have thought that it would also need a very large cranium, housing a large brain, but I understand Rick, so maybe the brain isn’t so important
Notwithstanding the fact that snakes and other animals lack the physiological components to speak as we do. It's impossible for them to form our words.
@@finbarrsaunders8688 that can't make sounds other than hissing
Some birds can talk, so I don't think a big brain is a requirement..
With birds, is it really talking or simply mimicking the sounds of English or whatever language the owner speaks? Parrots can imitate many things, from spoken words to creaking doors to barking dogs, so I’ve heard, having never owned a bird.
@@Tybren but can those birds convince people to eat more fruit?
I could listen to Forrest all day . So interesting .😊😊😊
Rick doesn't want to hear about evidence or learn about things he has no knowledge about, he just wants his turn to talk.
I love this show i learn a lot
Now, the caller should have known not to challenge Forrest. He is an actual scientist......
Caller has an organ that's "dragging": his brain.
Forrest is a force of science.
"All the available evidence indicates that living things started in simple form, and that from this simple beginning the great diversity of present day plants and animals has developed." College Zoology Hunter and Huner 1949
Forrest exhibits a knowledge and friendliness that is impressive to even the evolution doubters. They want to talk to him even though he disagrees with their beliefs. I suppose they believe their unfounded wisdom will change his mind .
Its a natural response I feel like. It goes like this
Here's this reasonable, friendly, knowledgeable person.
I'm a reasonable friendly knowledgeable person.
If we just talk I'm sure he'd see things my way. Because he's like me.
A masterly take-down by someone who is on top of his subject!
Wow, Forrest is a freaking genius. So much knowledge about biology.
He makes me feel like a stupid ape.
Why is it that the most ignorant people speak with the most confidence about subjects they literally know nothing about? Creationists never cease to amazing with their silliness.
Also, Forrest has quickly become a favorite science communicator of mine.
You have so much knowledge that not only you nail facts after facts but connect them together to show how different scientific fields combine to explain evolution. It's jaw dropping to hear about it and yet you have this guy that just wants to fit his conclusion and dissmises the beauty of the demonstration that would make any jury say 100% true beyond any resonable doubt. Forrest is so impressive! Loved also your video about gender.
These calls are like the order of operations math problems you see on FB and TikTok. People will have the wrong answer and argue like crazy…even when shown the problem worked through, step by step, they will cling to their wrong answers.
Wow! First time I’ve watched Forrest. The dude is incredible!!
Great explanation
Forrest is just about the most adorable human
Poor Rick, he so didn't want to admit believing in a talking serpent because even he knows deep down that it's so incredibly silly.
Using facts, evidence and logic on these kinds is like giving a dead man medicine.
Yeah, but it's not about the dead man, it's about showing their slightly less lost buddies that resurrections don't happen.
@@nagranoth_ Sorry you didn't get it.
Rick had absolutely no idea at all that Dave was taking the piss out of him.
Evolution is the basis for the entire field of biology.