Forza Motorsport Modded - Enhanced Ray Tracing, Extra Detail - Graphics Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- A hidden 'visual target' graphics setting? What does it do? Alex takes a look at an easy-to-implement mod for PC, where copying and pasting a few XML files in Forza Motorsport opens up enhanced detail settings and adds ray traced global illumination - a feature promised in marketing that never turned up in gameplay in the final release. How do these features improve the presentation? To what extent does it look better... or worse? What about performance? Plus: have CPU and GPU performance in Forza Motorsport on PC improved over our launch review?
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The Forza devs really need to be called out more for the way they advertised this game
I mean they were literally calling it "The most technically advanced racing game ever made" only to release one of the most downgraded titles ever
Imo that's 10x more aggravating than the infamous "built from the ground up" quotes
usually the publishers fault, they handle all the marketing stuff. And publishers don't really work on the game so a lot of the time they tend to just say shit
They had 6 years between titles... It should've been built from the ground up AND be the most technically advanced racing game ever made given this series' history.
Forza has been the premier racing sim for a while now, but they really fumbled the ball with this one, even if it's still enjoyable overall.
@@corey2232 if it was built from the ground up it would of taken longer then six years and it would of been even more of a mess then this game was, its really really really hard to make a new game, sequels always you to build off of existing tech and polish/ revamp the existing tech without wasting time on shit you already have. there's a lot of nuances to game development. Ive been in the industry coming up on 4 years now, its never as simple as the gamers online pretend like it is. ever.
@@corey2232 "Forza has been the premier racing sim for a while now" lmfao in what world
The managers of Forza Motorsport fire developers before having to give them permanent employment resulting in no built-up experience and mediocrity.
This game mystifies me, had all this promise and hype for years but came out extremely half-baked on graphics, performance, and gameplay, and now almost a year later it really isn't that much better. I just don't understand it, they were able to pump out fully featured Forza games every two years for 12 years from 2005 to 2017, then they took 6 years to make this game and it's in worse shape than any of the others. Brutal
I didn't like the game too much at launch, I really disliked the new career mode, etc. However, a few weeks ago I tried it out again, and for one, the performance is improved quite a bit. But mainly, once I got though a few more races, things just started to click and now I'm really enjoying it. The graphics are not half-baked, however, the issue is the lighting. For example, racing at sunset or in the early evening, the game looks down right photo realistic - but most of the game takes place in the middle of the day, seems to be the most common time setting, and its by far the least flattering look s it just looks flat for whatever reason. Anywho, if you actually like Forza and you're not just a GT troll (and I love GT to be sure), then you should try it out again.
This and Halo
I imagine only a small amount of employees at Turn 10 worked on Motorsport, and the bulk of the main team continued to work on the money machine that is “Forza Horizon”
That’s what happens when a studio fires everyone with talent for 12 year old tweets. This is the best the people that are left can do it seems.
@@ab-hx8qeyour brain is cooked
As someone who was and still is regularly playing Forza Horizon 5, booting up Forza Motorsport was quite disappointing in terms of visual quality and available graphics settings.
How can Forza Horizon 5 have dense jungles in a huge open world look absolutely fantastic, even without any ray-tracing - but in the limited track sizes of Forza Motorsport all they can do is a flat gras texture that visibly repeats itself without any 3-models on top? And then the limited and confusing graphics settings ...
I truly hope they'll bring in some more visual improvements along the way, as Forza Horizon 5 did (TAA, ray-tracing, ...), cause the game is quite fun to play.
They should just import tracks into FH5 and call it a day
You want TAA? 😂
@@marcowong1436 Honestly this would make an amazing game. I've always wanted to Horizon to do this even with fictional track (actual tracks not street circuits)
Forza motrosport has a target 60 fps instead of 30, and it is a not a pc game like at all.
@@MrJinRoh fh5 runs 60fps and looks way better and runs better
So they did do substantial dev work on RTGI, reflections and track detail but weren't able to optimize them for launch. Another case of a rushed release, usually I dont fault devs for this, rather publishers. But I find it especially distasteful that T10 continues to use these graphics effects in their promo materials despite them not being accessible officially in the game. That's misleading marketing.
No amount of time will make this run on a series x
@@Ignacio.Romero And the fact it won't ever run on Series X is probably the real reason the PC version has those features disabled despite them existing- this was a flagship Xbox title so they didn't want it to be visually superior on PC, with the most likely logic being so the Xbox version isn't deemed the "bad" version so they could sell more copies on Xbox (and hopefully a few actual Xboxes with the game).
@@pjs232 exactly. This sort of feature set would cannibalize console sales and the managers saw this and said nope, we can't allow that right now.
This isn't the fault of developers. People keep saying that but always forget that developers also include programmers and artists who at the very least made the game look good enough.
The day you realize your complaining doesn't mean squat is the day you sell your Xbox and jump on PC. Pretty much every single major title that comes out on PC has mods that improves the game substantially in most cases. Waiting on devs to "fix the game" is no longer an option and hasn't been since Skyrim. You are at the will of Xbox and the dev to enjoy a game "as is" on console.
Worth noting that you dont actually have to set everything to ultra. Running RTAO and cubemaps at low for example can drastically improve performance with very little visual difference with RTGI enabled.
On a 4070 at native 1440p I can hit 60fps with RTGI if I lower settings that make very little difference.
You have to lower settings on this GPU? How much did you pay for? I hope not more than 360 bucks or so.
From a modern RTX GPU for lets say 600 bucks I expect like ultra settings with all effect at 1440p and at least 16 Gigs, better 20 Gigs of VRAm. All the time.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 this is RTGI and reflections on EVERYTHING. Expecting that in realtime at all is incredible, and it looks far better than vanilla maxed out.
The settings I'm lowering make very little difference. RTAO and cubemap quality make next to no difference because they've been replaced by RTGI and RT reflections, so the performance you get back is basically free.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738This is modding way past ultra settings. You shouldn't expect such easy performance.
You kids these days. Crysis ran at 20fps on the most powerful GPU in the world on ultra settings and it was wonderful.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 You are the reason developers hide advanced or heavy settings behind ini files (or don't include them at all). "Ultra" is an arbitrary setting; Some devs max it out to future proof their game, while other devs lowball it so the babies don't cry.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 someone missed their nap time
3:25 that animation...
If you drive at like 30-40 kmh in game with your camera to the side and speed up, you'll see that there is zero animation blending, it just shifts instantaneously when it reaches a certain speed, it's the exact same way in the horizon games and i'm still perplexed why haven't they fixed it after so many years
Still just insane to me that the PC version never got graphics settings that made it look like the original trailers.
Microsoft is just weirdly scared of their PC ports out-shining the Series X ports. They don't want a huge gap cause they don't want the Series X appearing weak. It's really strange behavior.
FH5 LOD distance is still broken on pc.
I doubt this is the case, the Forza Horizon games, which are made by another studio, have superior technologies on the PC, from Frame gen to better Raytracing features on the PC, while the Motor sport made by TURN10 up to the Frame gen they excluded from the final version of the PC, and look at the game's beta, the files were there so much so that it's possible to put the feature back into the game via mod despite having problems with the game's HUD, something that DEV could solve doesn't seem like enough of a reason to remove it from the final version of the game. game, I would guess that TURN 10 was simply less competent than Playground itself, but I hope they improve the PC version more and more, because until one day the color palette was horrible compared to the console versions because this one with all It was definitely the first Microsoft game that I played and it was definitely better on the console, even though I have a GPU with almost twice the performance of a Series X
it is weird and certainly unfortunate for everyone who plays on PC but what's even worse is that Playstation in Horizon Forbidden West for example leaves certain setting lower than the PS5 version even if you turn them to ultra especially in regards to textures. I would assume it's because of the reason you mentioned and the PC outshining the Console Version. Luckily we have mods so these "problems" can be solved but it's still sad to even go that far.
@@AkshayKumarX Not really, I only ever occasionally get lod problems when driving the Venom F5 at 300mph but never with any other car.
i wouldnt hate microsoft, id hate pc racing games specifically made for pc, like why dont they make them anymore and why dont they push the envelope, its been a long time since ive seen pc targeted games.
I still would rather play the 360 Forza games or even any that came out for the One. No amount of graphics will save this game from being boring.
I think these options being fully implemented and easy to enable and yet not made available via the standard options on PC speaks volumes to the type of studio mindset that made this game fail to live up to expectations
Right at the start of the video DF shows these settings cause instability and crashes, so ok for a mod but definitely not production ready. It's that simple, these options weren't fully tested so they weren't enabled
@@dancovich this game was released 9 months ago and was in development for ~4 years. If they can’t figure out how to clean up such small issues by now that’s pretty unimpressive.
@@cheese_crab I believe you are not a developer. When you create an application, you make choices about architecture, techniques, libraries, etc. While these decisions help you on the long run, they sometimes close the door on other choices you could've made. That means reverting a decision that didn't work out can be quite a challenge.
As a company, it's also hard to justify thousands of dollars in investment to finance a change that some of the player base will say "oh cool" for a week and then get back to trashing your game for some other reason
Alex passionately talking about bounced lighting is why this channel is so amazing.
For a 2023 game, environmental textures are severely lacking
06:00 It's insane that they STILL post screenshots with features we can't enable.
Who is in charge over there?!
PGR music... It's unfair to tease us like that 😢.
Glad I'm not the only one 😂😂
PGR4 is still my favorite racing game of all time. Good times
Galaxy Bounce by The Chemical Brothers - my mind immediately went to PGR too. Alex knew what he was doing.
Good ears! That was a nostalgic hit for me, too!
There are dozens of us who remember! Dozens!
I appreciate the PGR background music
Love Forza, Love DF and Love The Chemical Brothers. This video was amazing, thanks Alex!
This isn't a mod per se, this is just adding in capability that's already in the game and the devs held back for performance sake?
depending upon what you're looking at and how thin it is, there can be a good amount of visible noise and little random flashing fireflies that could occur with this mod. The reason being is because the denoiser and the RTGI itself are unfinished hence why they're not included in the base game and just unlockable via a mod.
You are definitely modifying the game, though.
The features aren't properly finished.
For example, you can see at 11:31 the INSANE amount of noise in the reflections, it almost looks like the game is broken. They could never let people activate a feature in that state. Most likely all the features that aren't activated are in the same half baked state
On point as always Alex thank you..........we do however have to talk about your racing skills! ;)
Stunning how this game just vanished. It was the Gran Turismo 7 competition. Jesus Xbox, support your fucking games.
It gets regular updates.
@@Phil_529fixing broken stuff and adding things that were in the other games at launch lol
@@Phil_529Ratioed
At this point I feel like GT7 on PC is a more likely way to have truly next gen racing visuals than waiting for Forza to fix their game.
GT7 doesn't even have ray tracing... what are you even talking about?
Forza Motorsport looks really damn good.
@@fordgtguy GT7 has much higher quality RT but it's only used in replays. For PS5 Pro RT is likely to be much improved and used in gameplay as well.
@@fordgtguy it has but is restricted to replays, in game menus and photo mode.
@jaglemans6778 "Much higher quality RT" uh... no it does not.
@@AndreFreitas91250 I don't even count RT in replays or game menus. I only care and acknowledge it in gameplay.
this last shot with the car in car reflections ist great
Wow, the cockpit view is so much better with the mod. I hope they bring it sometime in the future officially.
8:28 Interesting stuff, though I can't help but note that bounce lighting from a red surface onto a white surface in the middle of the day does not turn that white surface blood red. Definitely needs a lot of tuning, and I would argue the vanilla look in that particular case is much better.
@@bongwaterbojack the white wall is in shadow and the red is in direct sunlight. This definitely happens under these conditions irl.
Its a funny case of something that you'd think looks strange when it happens irl, but if a game accurately replicates it, it looks broken.
@@existentialselkath1264 I've raced on many tracks in many conditions and have never seen this in person or on TV. Is there some bounce? Sure. But it doesn't just turn into the exact same color as the surface it's bouncing off.
@@bongwaterbojack I mean, try it. On a hot summers day when the sun is out completely, get the brightest red thing you can in direct sunlight and put it next to a piece of paper or something in shadow.
Ill admit its probably less likely to happen with red gravel or something like it's doing in game. I think real gravel would be darker and so bounce less light, but that's a texture issue. The RTGI is working perfectly fine with the info it's given.
@existentialselkath1264 I've been there already. It doesn't look like that. Slight pink hue is all you'll get. Not a blood red wall.
@@bongwaterbojack it entirely depends on the brightness of the sun and how much light is hitting the wall asside from the red surface. It doesn't happen all the time but it is entirely possible.
It also doesn't happen all the time in forza with RTGI
Been almost a year, ain't no update coming to improve visuals.
Wouldn't say that, they've definitely improved visuals the last few updates. More vibrant overall, better lighting, clouds are now volumentric... it does look a lot nicer now and more like a Forza game even without this mod. This is an ongoing service, it will keep improving. There's comparisons out there... plus the newer tracks like Sebring and Brand Hatch look noticeably better to me.
@@euphoreonz So why is none of that mentioned in this video? Alex directly compares the launch and current versions and didn't note any graphical upgrades (indeed it seems like particle rendering has been downgraded). Could it be because you've just made it up? You've certainly made up volumetric clouds being a new feature, because they've been there since launch and are mentioned in Oliver's tech review on Eurogamer.
Update 9 significantly improved visuals with new sky rendering, new gamma and color grading. Did all of you miss the buzz about it a month ago? Look up some comparisons, difference in some cases are night and day.
@@CaptainKenwaybecause he probably wouldn't know? The only comparison here is performance. The 'upgrades' are still subtle if you don't know what to look for
They just did a major overhaul a month ago. Game looks awesome now on PC and much more stable.
That PG music tickled my member berries
Someone should also mod realistic lighting and colors, detailed car models, a proper single-player career mode, intelligent AI, good racecar physics and a tuning/upgrade system that feels new, and this game would instantly become quite great.
Man the outro gameplay footage looks insane 🤩
man i love this sort of thing. i recall a time when you could absolutely destroy your computer by mucking up INI settings to see what happened. MORE OF THIS. let us experiment and push the envelope!
I really wish the Single Player for this and Gran Turismo 7 wasn't Always Online, it puts me off playing both
I wish that too. But how is it putting you off playing?
@@Nucleosyntheseit’s the principle of the matter. There is no reason why they could not separate the competitive online elements from an offline single player experience, satisfying both audiences. They chose not to. I chose not to give them my $70.
@@balaam_7087 I also chose to. Paid way less.
@@James-gj8rn especially because this Forza was already cracked what even is the point of forcing everyone online? Also I hope GT comes to PC natively someday, emulating GT6 has been a blast. GT6 and Forza 4 are still honestly such great racing games.
What the big deal about always online? Because my devices are nevertheless.
For me this is only relevant with bad internet connection.
And I do like that savegames are automatically transferred between XBox and PC.
Alex, those screenshots you posted on Twitter looks gorgeous! 😍 The devs should have add all this in the game and let people adjust the graphic settings for their PC. Console folks may get jealous and complain to Microsoft because PC has the "better version of the game"?
This VisualTarget settings kinds looks like was the one used in the trailers when we first saw Forza Motorsport.
Can’t believe the massive downgrade we got both on console and the official pc release. What a shame. That said, this mod is totally worth implementing even with the minor visual noise etc it brings with it. Sad that we have to rely on modders to get what we were originally promised by Turn 10😕
I love that PGR 1 intro music lol
1 year later and they still haven't delivered. 9? Patches and none of them adreess any of the things that people complained since the beginning.
I really wanted this game to be enjoyable but there's just way too much missing. Will keep waiting for Assetto Corsa
I'm glad that devs fixed stuttering so I could increase all settings to ultra, disable DLSS, increase resolution rendering to get stable fps with good picture
Saying they addressed nothing is very exaggerated. The game has changed a lot since launch
@@luis_augusto-22And it's still a pile of shit.
@@IamJay02 If you think so 🤷🏻♂️
hey alex thx for doing this update video on FM
i really hope Turn 10 polishes/finishes the PC version within the next year
I can't even imagine how GT8 would look like on PS5 and PS6.
10:05 i have noticed both you and John using Hitman: Contracts music in different videos now, it's awesome i love the music to those games so much, Jesper Kyd is a great game composer.
I really hope that someday you will do a graphical analysis of the "BetterRTX" mod for Minecraft Bedrock. It greatly improves on standard RTX and adds a ton of hidden settings that can be customized to suit your needs.
I'll be interested to see what PD do with GT7 on PS5 Pro.
With 2-3x more RT performance, 35% stronger GPU and PSSR they've lots of headroom to push the visuals. Maybe we'll also get a PC port announcement.
The trouble for Forza Motorspot is that Gran Turismo 7 and Forza Horizon 4 (yes, the one from 2018) remains a better games, before you even get to comparing it to Forza Horizon 5.
GT7 isn't that great either, so you're half wrong there
GT7 is bad
@@xXVibrantSnowXxit’s easily the best console track racer
@@BigLukeyBoi which isn't saying much lol.
Gt7 is far better than fm
Wow, it’s crazy how much the game has been downgraded since the game was first shown. Gi really makes it look much closer to those early trailers and much more photorealistic. If they could have somehow hit these targets, we’d be calling it the best Forza since 4. Such a shame considering how good these physics are
I agree I’ve been playing with the mod all night & it’s crazy how different the game is now. I could confidently say it surpass horizon 5 in visuals
It may look better but the physics are still FUCKED.
What are you smoking?
Physics is ok to the game of such genre. You can prefer old FM physics or GT7 physics , yeah
The bounce lighting in the car interiors makes such a huge difference. I hated how flat the interiors look in this game, and having the light bouncing naturally inside the car just looks so much better.
Sounds like Turn 10 releasing half baked games
Ive messed about with the Dev Build of Horizon 3 a lot and Id assume these apply the same to this game that in Forza Vista and Photomode the quality of the car models and the surrounding areas are way higher than the Ultra graphics hence why you'll see your GPU usage go higher in those modes even when its a still image so this maybe were these presets are from. Super intestine that you can just move some files around to get this to work.
I have not played Motorsport yet, but this is very interesting to me. Its a pattern of modding xml/ini files in racing games for visual fidelity i've noticed and participated in since Race Driver: GRID (2007). And is easy to do as demonstrated here, good to know doing these things arr still alive. Got me a big frown for devs that lock down modding. |:
One could imagine a game where they lean into the RT flickering by overlaying an "old film" postprocess and making the rendering problems into part of the overall look. Dare to dream.
Allll of a sudden…. They walked back on their presses of FM (8). I remember being hyped about it, bought it, and played it for a bit then didn’t care for it anymore…. Then I remembered the GT7 comparison video and they said GT7 by a narrow margin. But it’s gotta be waaaaaayyy higher. I’m still playing GT7 with the new update, and I haven’t even touched FM (8)
Another excellent video! I'm going to test these improvements out myself
I forgot this game existed and this video reminded me why.
Did not anticipate Galaxy Bounce in the intro. Nice.
Game still looks better with only raster options after doing this tweak with the advantage of running at twice the fps.
Did I hear Music from hitman blood money at the 13 minute mark? 😎
Thank you so much for an awesome video! This game looks really great, but it has been a bummer that its limits haven't been pushed... until now.
It would be cool if you grabbed the M8 for a spin at Maple Valley and compared it to the first gameplay showcase of the game.
15:29 is it just me or does the scene on the right here look like it has RTGI active? You can see some pretty clear evidence of bounce lighting on the stage ceilings on the right.
In my opinion, the game has had changes in the color grading, making the lighting clearer and less blurry, making it possible to see details that could not be seen before.
@@al_toque yeah it doesnt look like a xbox 360 game anymore, i compared a picture i took of this game in first patch with a picture of the current version and the differences are really huge, in the first patch the colors looked really gray and in the current patch it looks like forza horizon 5 lol
Could you interview someone at Turn 10 and ask why the game was not released (and still isn't) as advertised?
Outsourcing and cost cut. That's why
too bad the game itself sucks id love to try these mods out
Really disappointing that modders are the ones making improvements when the dev that got the money just simply doesnt care
Cars will always look two generations old with that lack of detail and terrible textures, but the tracks and environments look great.
On Series S, everything about this game looks like ASS. Distant trees turn to blurry squares, car decals look like something from an N64, anti-aliasing turns every edge into a blurry mess.
This piece of crap looks worse than just about every racing game from the previous generation.
@@flyingplantwhale545 That's cause the series s is a POS that is weaker than last gen consoles.
@@deathtrooper3069no its because turn 10 reuse old inaccurate car models
All these comments show no one here actually played the game at launch vs now it looks way better than it did then and the tree textures and movement was also improved also the color grading but these comment's seem like they didnt play but they judging
Excellent coverage Alex. Danke.
11:05 i love how there are BMW M logos in the porsche 911
M colours are light blue, dark blue and red.
Xbox once again ruined another franchise and leaves the community to either fix it or forget about it…. Blows my mind how anyone can support anything they do
Getting this game is like losing at Bullseye. It's just needs Jim Bowen wheeling out a better game and telling you what you that is what you could have won.
Very close to winning the prize for LEAST visible RT of all time.
its hard to notice rt for alot of reasons, 1. baked lighting sometimes is just as good because its pre calculated on super computers/ high end rigs so in some shots its more accurate than realtime raytracing because realtime rt requires more samples and very good denoisers, realtime rt is better for dynamic lighting and dynamic objects but computational wise devs will always choose shortcuts for a steady image, 2. Some games werent designed from scratch to use rt, so the art assets and object materials are not authored for rt, for instance car body paints so even if you add rt it wont change much, weve seen how gt7 did it they had special car materials especially car pain that looks magic with rt on replay but used different materials and baked lighting when playing, its the only best option at the moment.. lastly i think dedicated rt games will be hard to make for devs especially xbox devs when u have to also run that game on series s.. this affetcs many decisions.
RT is overrated.
Soon as The Chemical Brothers started it was certain Alex was at the helm!
I swear to god, these graphical improvements are getting harder to notice by the day. You really have to know where to look at to notice what 10 more ray bounces do to the overall lighting. This is entering justifying ends to a mean (yes, in reverse) territory just for GPU manufacturers to have something to do.
GREAT intro music, RIP Project Gotham Racing. ❤ Galaxy Bounce
Those RT fireflies annoyed me so much in Dying Light 2, hopefully this noise problem can get solved for good soon.
Seeing the cost and other limitations they ran into (a good denoiser, etc), I can understand why they had to cut it, especially if it was taking up time and resources for other aspects they needed to get ready for launch and onward... but... I wish devs were more open about these things ESPECIALLY when they promise and show it off earlier then can't deliver it. Turn 10 should've talked about the performance impact ended up being too high for the release version, but if they can improve that, they will try to release it in the future. If that's their intent, then it's explaining that a) yes it does exist, b) they had a valid reason for removing it, c) that there is a possibility it will return, but not a guarantee if they can't get the performance and denoiser quality there.
Mannnnn. The music at start brought some memories!!
PGR 1 menu song. Oooh the memories
Kind of disgusting Xbox is dangling the Visualtarget folder saying, “Look what it could have been, we just didn’t want to QA test it!”
Microsoft is very risk averse when it comes to game publishing , more so than it's competitors.
the first game I ever wanted to get a refund for
Lmao
Auf wiedersehen! Bis zum nächsten Mal :D
From the beginning, it was obvious that the game isn't finished. A year later and still missing that visual quality. And now we know why.
Compared to the original marketing, game still looks like a total slap in the face
The fact that this game was just accepted in the way it released will always bother me. They legit needed the cyberpunk treatment. Turn10 has fallen from grace and is a shell of what they used to be.
omg PGR soundtrack in the beginning goes so hard
The slight improvement in framerate might also be due to more mature GPU drivers since launch and not necessarily because of any work they did. Regardless the only way I will even buy this game is if they add VR compatibility (which I don't foresee happening) and DLSS (if its not already in game). Can't wait for Assetto Corsa Evo
chemical brothers - galaxy bounce
Game plays fantastic today.
Cyberpunk had an E3 RT mode you could enable during its early days. What if this was also just a mode for video adverts? Or it could be test work that covered certain scenarios but was deemed too much work (for now or ever).
9:45 It’s happening cause it needs more samples per frame along with denoiser unable to clean it.
Interesting that T10 uses RTGI in all their promotional materials but remains as unfinished files in the released game.
i hope the modders fix the bugs and it will b perfect
Turn 10 went MIA after this dropped.
Meh, Still not as good as GT7...will just wait for PC port of GT7 or PS5 pro upgrade
Agreed.
It looks like the intensity of the color bouncing is waayy too high in some cases (like the red color bouncing off the track onto the side wall). That looks less realistic to me than that default lighting because it is overdone. Similarly, the noise that accompanies ray tracing has always ruined the effect for me. Unless a "film grain" look is well-suited for the content, I basically always still prefer classic faux lighting techniques to RT.
Agreed, a wall painted white isn't going to become a brilliant red just because the ground near it is painted red. The effect is definitely enabled, but the materials are still wrong, or there is too little dispersion and suppression of light in the bounce pass.
I love fun and curiously sake videos
nice PGR1 menu music
I hope eventually we will have ray tracing capable graphics card for decent prices…
the modder is pronounced "Legit" i think :D considering his username "LJITimate" => "Legitimate"
Wish we will see a fully path traced racing sim down the limit. That would look like,well, real life.
Wait what... did DF completely miss that Update 9 significantly improved visuals with new sky rendering, new gamma and color grading??? I don't see a single mention of these major improvements made, nor do I see any comparison.
It’s a video about a mod of fm8, I don’t see why an update about the base game would matter
@@milkyy4168 Because DF routinely makes videos about updates on base games? And update that improves visuals and addresses most of issues that initial DF videos pointed out seems like a pretty big deal.
Still the bad accuracy of AO despite RTAO. We would change the level of lighting renderer from normal RT to path tracing ( = full RT) for get true AO but path tracing impacts (greatly) the performance. 🙂
The modded version doesn‘t really look better, not worth imo
I remember someone made a video showing that the developers did not build the new forza game from the ground up as claimed.. they had simply re used a lot of the old assets from the previous games. Very Lazy and manipulative
I feel like I'm going crazy ppl are saying this makes a huge difference and that base game looks "last gen" but it looks stunning???
to even notice some of the improvements I literally have to pause and guess what changed half the time and even with some of the more noticeable parts how would that affect the experience when you're running past that sort of stuff at a fast pace?
I wouldn't be surprised if a new patch will make the mod unusable.
Yeah it's ridiculous that on PC there isn't a feature to max out everything. Should not have to use modding to get that result.