@@joejett5084 i will give credit to isaih in that he was one of the first attack first pg. But their style of defense is obsolete by today's standards. Hacking ur opponents head and dumping him on the floor while on the air isnt good defense.
@@joejett5084 as ive said... isiah is one of those older gen guys who can translate his game seamlessly in the modern game. But the pistons style of play esp defense is obsolete by modern standards.
It was a 3 year post season success for the Pistons against the Bulls in the late 80s on route to winning 2 out of 3 chips. So it would seem anyone from the Bulls including MJ, would just be sour grapping if they say the Pistons were underserving champs.
The bad boys were dominant in those days. Rodman was the unsung hero! I hated those guys back in the day. I'm a Lakers fan but I can now respect what they did. Chuck was a good coach too!
@@Mark-ks5tc Yep, that happened in Game 7 of the 1988 NBA Finals. It was infamously known as _"The Phantom Foul"._ Which led to Detroit being snubbed of what should've been their FIRST championship.
Everyone who looks into the history of the NBA knows about Michael Jordan and the huge mainstream push they had to market him. Their problem was Isaiah Thomas & the rest of the Detroit Pistons.. The Bulls with Michael Jordan didn't' win until Jordan went to the commissioner complaining about the Pistons so the rules were changed to help him. That's criteria number 1 for the GOAT application lol Which is Did they have to change the rules to counter your dominance ?
@@danielaromo - Jordan didn’t play with another all star until 90’. Isiah had a better team around him & had a HOF coach during Jordan’s 1st few seasons.
Man Put Some Respect On Zeke Name. Him and His Team beat all the Greats when it mattered (playoffs). Magic,Bird and Mike.. All were still in their Prime.. TBH, a bad call cost the bad boy pistons from winning 3 chips in a row! And Isaiah still drop 43 on a hurt ankle gm 6! (Get outta here wit dat Nonsense)
@@JordanLamont-hg6xqbeat ? You mean fouled ?? I know the game was different But look at reality man Only way they could win against anyone was to cheat Forever dogshit Fuxk the pistons lol
He's not lying. Jordan and Phil were doing multiple interviews the whole series talking about the Pistons and the city of Detroit. 30 years later, Isiah Thomas is still being made out to be the villain. He was elected President of the NBA Players Association BY THE PLAYERS, so he wasn't hated like people claim today. He negotiated the Collective Bargaining Agreement and increased NBA salaries from $300K to almost $2 Million a year. The reason why players have the contracts they have today started with Zeke. Those are facts.
You couldn’t be more wrong about why players have the salaries they have now. He was president from 1988-1994, please 🙏,do yourself a huge f*cking favour and look at salaries then. It was MJ and the global status of the nba after the olympics that helped raise advertising costs and therefore the salaries.
@@Somethingwittyxs4ku Isiah Thomas established four historic Collective Bargaining Agreements and pushed to raise the average NBA player’s salary, which increased from $300,000 to $1.8 million under his tenure. That is a fact, period. Top players like Jordan were still mainly making the bulk of their money from advertisements at that time. The bargaining agreements raised salaries for ALL players and increased league minimums for ALL players. Dude, STFU.
Jordan bought the dollars to those contracts without him, it wouldn’t have happened. Zeke admitted earlier they are still eating off what Jordan did for the league.
@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 And whinned to the league and got rules changed. Jordan only won in a watered down league when all the greats got old and retired.
@hitek9too255 yeah I can tell you too young to even chime in about this with that ignorant regurgated statement. you sound like a robot actually, just repeating what you heard from other ignorant know it alls. the pistons were very much in their prime when they eventually lost to Jordan and the bulls. they were actually a couple of years older than Jordan on average just like Boston was a 4-5 years older than zeke when the pistons beat the Celtics. just because a team dominated an Era doesn't mean that the league is watered down orelse you might as well include every team from every Era to have played in a water down league aka Celtics in the 60s and 70s, Celtics and Los Angeles in the 80s. Educate yourself and have an Original unbiased opinion based on credible research before saying anything please. you can't be lazy and have an opinion at the same time smh.
He always congratulated teams when they beat the Bulls. I don't recall him walking off the court and hiding his face like a coward. The Pistons did that. You may wanna do some homework.
The Pistons were the most disrespectful team in the league. They won by playing dirty ball, cheating, kicking, punching and slamming people on the court trying to permanently injure people on purpose. That ain't basketball. That's MMA and WWF tactics. Why do you think they were called Bad Boy Pistons? When the Pistons beat the Bulls, Isaiah had no problem shaking Jordan's hand. But when the Bulls came back and beat the Pistons Ass, Isaiah refused to shake Jordan's hand and walked off the court. Isaiah was the sore loser. Not Jordan. He disrespected Jordan first and never apologized. Jordan didn't hate Isaiah until after Isaiah disrespected him. Jordan used it as motivation to become the GOAT. Isaiah never recovered. 35 years later and he's still bitter.
I agree with the fact that the pistons were not respectful when they lost. I agree Jordan uses it as motivation to beat them. Im simply saying that no matter what the Pistons won and. Y doing so it was deserved. I don’t agree with Jordan stating they were undeserving whether they hated each other or not.
You couldn't be more right Mi Chico. My first game I ever watched was the game Isaiah sprained his ankle played the whole game dropped 40 with nothing but heart and desire. I've been a Bad Boy ever since. And I never gave it much thought but Isaiah is splitting wigs about Mr. Air Jordan. An I argue with my son all the time about Mike being to he goat. His guy is LBJ. But my team is the Pistons and my fav player is A.I. I wish he could of played for the bad boys in his prime. But long story short If it wasn't for the Pistons Mike might have never pushed himself that hard to get past them and win them ships.
@@hellbent7066why are you crying about that I thought that was real basketball right !Yall clown todays game cause we don’t punch and kick and grab so why complain ohh lemme guess cause it goes against daddy Jordan
Your a MJ fan or BULLS FAN......I give context why Jordan said that they are undeserving champion because when Jordan/bulls beat there ass and got swept they never shake/shook hand now it's for you to decide if they are deserving or undeserving champion......but this is a facts true champions is gracious in winning and in defeat
Isaiah Thomas is speaking nothing but the truth they went through hard times to win those back-to-back championships salute to the Pistons old school bad boys
I remember the ‘89 playoffs as the Lakers entered the Finals with an 11-0 record but lost Byron Scott to a hamstring pull before Game 1 and Magic to another hammy in 3Q of Game 2. I’m not saying the Lakers would’ve won but these injuries did eliminate some “hard times” for Detroit. I realize injuries are a part of the game and Isaiah will tell you he could barely walk in Game 7 of the ‘88 Finals after spraining his ankle in Game 6.
@@natch27 yeah, I was gonna say I mean the Pistons should’ve won in 88 if it wasn’t for injuries and bad calls. I say the same thing about the 2006 pistons when they faced the Hear so many injuries in the playoffs for the Pistons star players, Dwyane Wade and Shaq are lucky or they would’ve never made it to the finals either.
That wasn't old school it was hard knocks and sometimes dirty. The league had to admend ,change ,and implement new rules concerning rough play all because of the Pistons and the things they did. When you push an airborne shooter into the stands ,that's not defense. When you hit a player in the head while he is attempting a layup without going for the ball, that's not defense. When you tackle clothes, line a player while they are attempting a layup that's not legal defense. The rules were changed to curtail the rough play. One thing the players of the league recognized was that Jordan was a far superior player than most in the NBA. The Pistons realized the only way to defeat him was to literally beat him, and that's what they did. They abused him and his teammates severely. But as time revealed itself, the Bull's developed a different attitude and approach. They got tough and stronger physically as well as mentally. Jordan understood what it would take, and he never backed down and insisted his teammates didn't either. To the Piston fans. Be proud of that teams accomplishments. They were great, and that can't be taken away. Most championship teams are usually defeated as a result of many things such as age, injures, retirements, and trades. I just think it's a disservice to dwell on a team that defeated you or stopped your run more than you show appreciation for your accomplishments. Move on and celebrate that Piston team. Dam the rest. They won the first NBA championship for the City. Something Bob Lanier and his teammates couldn't do. They gave the team with Ben, Rasheed ,and Chauncey inspiration. There are still franchises in the league that haven't won one championship, let alone played for one.
@@williamanderson1091 I miss the no layup rule from the late 80s they need to bring that back and it has nothing to do with it being dirty. It has to do with no easy baskets. Now players just stand around while people just lay it up. Just think about it, that takes no effort.
@djtheory313 I don't know what game you are talking about. I was talking about basketball . The rules have to change to protect the players. Lay ups are being contested today, and they were before. The rules changes have been put in place to add an element of safety. One can not push an air born shooter and not make an attempt on the ball. One can't through an elbow and call that a part of defensive play. One can't undercut and make contact on an airborne shooter. One can't shove or displace a player standing in a legal area on the court. Those rules applied then, and they apply now. The issue is that the penalties have increased to protect all players from that type of excessive play to avoid injuries and fights. If you don't like the increase in penalties for certain infractions, maybe you just like excessive force or criticism. Something had to be done before someone got seriously injured or sustained a career ending injury.
They only won cause jordan did not had a good team he was join in a development team so tbh pistons would not win if Jordan team was good same every team jordan face in the 80s was already stack jordan was by him self so let’s be honest here
Jordan only said that because Isiah Thomas beat Jordan 3-1 in the playoffs. Knowing how competitive Jordan is. It probably ate him alive losing so much to Isiah.
All Facts Isiah. This is why you have to be around to tell your own truth. Inform everybody else of the facts not the Fiction for all the story tellers out there!
The Facts are Jordan and 2 - 3yrd playing, 2nd yr starters Swept the SAME EXACT PISTONS ROSTER that won back2back chips 89 & 90 in 1991. Tell that story to yourself a few times.
@@chinaross2859 I'm from Chicago. The LOCKPORT PORTERS, coached by Bob Basarich, 58 & 1 over 2 seasons of IHSA basketball play, ranking them right along with future INDIANA HOOSIERS great', THORNRIDGE FALCONS' star Quinn Buckner that lost 1 game over 2 seasons of play:1970-71/1971-72. The Isiah Thomas/Ray Clark were good. They just came up uh tad short against LOCKPORT in the championship gm: Final score: LOCKPORT 64, St Joseph 47.
Because of how they won…..if they couldn’t hurt you they lose. Celtics whipped their ass for YEARS until Bird’s back problems. And they would only have one ring if Scottie wasn’t suffering from migraines during the Pistons repeat bid.
I'm from Detroit and remembering watching the season games... the Pistons I remember, as a 10 yr old kid, was how they seem to always get the loose balls. I later learned that was hustling and playing hard on every possession.
Celtic fan in the 70's and 80's. I saw the Pistons grow from the early 80's to the late 80's. For almost the entire decade they got beat by the Celtics but the Pistons never gave up and finally beat the Celtics in the late 80's. They are deserving champions.
Facts!! I never thought he was bitter. U may not know this, but I think Isiah Thomas was among the first people to call Michael Jordan the “best to ever play the game” and always have him credit whenever he got the chance, even though they had their differences. However, when MJ came out with the documentary and called Isiah Thomas “an asshole”, and refused to apologize, Isiah Thomas took the gloves off and went on the offensive. He ain’t never gonna stop going after MJ, at least not in our lifetime 😂😂
@@garytaylor8616Jordan sent this little sawed-off monkey off the basketball court 9 seconds early crying to the Pistons owner like a little hoe look it up
@@squeekyclean1644 that has to be one of the most idiotic statements ever made that dude had two championships that he didn't jump on Shaquille O'Neal's back for Jordan two three-peats where he's the main man and you try to say an overrated rapists that jumped on a big man's back to get three other rings is better you're mentally ill dude and anyone else that thinks that little overrated turd was ever on Jordan's level
Isaiah Thomas is one of the greatest players that ever played basketball. No one could stop Isaiah and he should have been the first player that was pick for the Olympics
@@hallowdemonlopez5660 i never said that… I’m not a groupie! But in 1986, back from injury and with the squad he had against the Celtics, the Bulls had no chances!
It's like zeke is just saying that their team didn't beat the celtics, lakers, and mj team as if jordan didn't know, that the pistons beat the teams mentioned.
I know very little about basketball but love these interviews. Remenber on holiday in forida as a kid reading a sports illustrated article about thomas, was always onterested in him. No youtube or baskeball on uk tv in those days.
@@DanielHill-y6p I think it goes way beyond that. Isaiahs family was really good to Jordan when he moved to Chicago. Isaiah didn’t have a problem with him but he just didn’t lol at the bulls as a serious contender in the 80s because they weren’t. I think that really soured Jordan against him. It wasn’t the hate it was the not being considered an equal on the court.
MJ(goat) fan till my last breath, but I gotta agree with Isaiah on this one. They were definitely deserving Champs. They did it their way, played their own game and took home the gold. Now I'd call them sore losers for how they responded very unsportsmanlike after the Bulls finally got passed them, but undeserving nah. Isaiah was one of the best PG ever, and the Bulls recruited two of their major role players; J. Sally and Rodman
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 There are only 4 teams that won in the 80s and Isiahs team was one of them that won twice…beating Larry, Magic and Jordan 😒 you clearly don’t know basketball
Isiah makes sense….they had to get past the Celtics, then Lakers while keeping Jordan and Bulls in check. The top the league was never so good than that period. And when they lost to the Celtics and Lakers the games were extremely competitive and especially that one last steal from super clutch Bird that series was about as even as possible particularly when Celtics could not handle the Pistons on the road. I think the Pistons work so hard to peak in 1989-90, they were so exhausted and aged that they could no longer keep up with the athletic emerging reign of the Bulls.
I don’t know how those facts are disrespectful truly if you were around in that era you know exactly what he’s talking about and why he’s talking about it. Thank you.
No it’s not… that’s what made him the bulls unstoppable… who beat them after they got passed Detroit? No-Bo-dy! And that’s what separates mj from the fake goat…. Lebron would of requested a trade after the 89 playoffs 🤣
He eliminated them in the playoffs and the Pistons walked straight to the locker room without shaking hands. Poor sportsmanship. Isaiah has been on a crusade to save his image since.
Everybody is so busy worshipping Michael Jordan and kissing his ass, it's good to see a grown man not back down and speak his mind. Let Isaiah take over Charlotte, I bet you they would be a lot better than the product Jordan put together with Mitch Kupchak.
Although I'm a fan of Jordan as a player, Zeke is right. True, the Media labeled his Pistons squad the "Bad Boys." But, Jordan went along with the theme and called them "Undeserving Champions."
@@cmajor8802MJ called them out because they were trying to hurt him ! They wrote a book about it! The Pistons were a great team but they definitely played dirty!
@@cmajor8802 nah I give context why the said the undeserving champion because of the incident when they lost got they refuse to shake/ shook hands unsportsman like conduct for a 2 time champion
@@NewWorldDreams47 Bullsh*t they walked out because they got swept by Jordan and 2 - 3rd yr playin, 2nd yr starters, with same exact roster that won back2back championships. You think they would'a walked out if they won? Jordan shook they hands when they were close linin' & scoop slammin. Right? But you gonna tell me they walked off over WHAT JORDAN SAID? Flimsy asses. You just collapsed their entire BADBOY persona with that sh*t. The Detroit Pusstins.. lmao
The public needs to let it go. Isaiah just answering questions Hosts are asking him! Mike needs to sit and talk and let the public ask him questions like Isaiah has Done. He won't because he can't account for all the lies he has told!!!!
not Jordan he just made the documentary base on what happen during his play days. MJ is over that foolishness with Zeke.💯MJ just felt at that time piston should of shown respect to the loss. knowing it was so hard 3 times it took bow out like true champion not a bunch of sorry losers piston.
@@mjathisbestandteachingskil6980I really enjoyed the documentary, but it was evident he bears grudges, quite a few situations in that documentary from decades back that he still had the same perspective and feelings over, that’s not a good trait or world view even if your a game changing genius
Pistons could be the barometer of basketball of this era. If a team survive and pass the physicality of this Bad Boys then you deserve to be called the best.
You shouldnt because hes lying or stretching tf out of the truth. He beat those teams but many of the players hes talking about didnt play in the series or for long in those series due to injuries and KAG was a 41yr old role player. I think the only player he actually mentioned that played the whole series, or at all, was MJ. Dont take my word or his for it just do your own search on Bird, Magic, Jordan, Pippen and KAG that year. Bird didnt even play. I think Magic was out in 2. Pippen in like game 5 of a 4-2 series. His rhetoric is laughable. 😂
Jordan beat his ass in 91.... or did he forget that? Did he play again? This is like Schumacher. Once he won his first with Ferrari, it was downhill from there.
The Bad Boys were no joke.They were Bullies but that’s what made it more fun to watch. Bodies would go flying through the air, clotheslines and everything. It’s was WWF NBA edition. 😂
Ok this is one time I agree with Isaiah being born in Michigan and living here all my life seeing the pistons going through all these obstacles as a kid was good times 🏀❤
Had in not been for a terrible foul call at the end of game 6 of the 88 finals, the Bad Boys would have 3peated. Couple that with 5 conference finals in a row, and it's hard to argue that the Bad Boys were not a great team.
HE'S TELLING THE DAMM TRUTH NOTHING BUT FACTS HERE. THEY SHOULD BLAME THE NBA, CAUSE THEY WAS THE ONES WHO LET IT HAPPENED. IT WAS GOOD FOR THE LEAGUE, CAUSE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT 25 YEARS LATER. BUT WE ALL KNOW HE CAN'T STAND JORDAN. THAT WALK OFF THE COURT, THAT'S WHO THEY WAS.
Isaiah Right, His Pistons Beat Some Of Teams That Had Future HOF On Them. He Was 'A Great Player In His Own Right. People Need To Stop Kissing Jordans Ass.
Difference is isaiah said we didn't shake the Bulls hands because Bird and the Celtics didn't shake our hands.So what😮MJ shook y'all hands after every lose to the pistons.And Everybody said y'all were bad for the game.Goggle it
Not really he beat jordan wit what team tho? Did Jordan had good players in the 1987 1988 1989 season no he had a developments team ya failed to realize that reason why jordan won cause he got good players jordan in the 80s was playing by him self so ofc he would lose if u was a real jordan fan u would know that
The walk off the court is what prompted him to say what he did. It’s not like he lied about their style of play either. What difference would it have made if he made the comment before? Absolutely no difference.
Pistons didn’t fit the script but the league had to deal with them. Very underrated run
Pistons played dirty. The flagrant foul was invented because of them.
@@ibashcommunists6847 man’s game. The same way people say Steph changed the game, give Thomas the same respect 😂😂😂
@@joejett5084 i will give credit to isaih in that he was one of the first attack first pg. But their style of defense is obsolete by today's standards. Hacking ur opponents head and dumping him on the floor while on the air isnt good defense.
@@ibashcommunists6847 true but if I told you it still happens today specifically lebron
@@joejett5084 as ive said... isiah is one of those older gen guys who can translate his game seamlessly in the modern game. But the pistons style of play esp defense is obsolete by modern standards.
That “beat your ass” was personally 😂😂😂
So what Isiah we all know Jordan lost to them but none of them 3 peat so shut up
@@barrygordon207is this Isiah here with us?
@@barrygordon207 You good bro???🤔
Yep
@@barrygordon207Isaiah runs to his title holds more weight. MJ couldn't beat a team that had 3 HOFs on it if he tried
That “beat your ass” was definitely personal to Jordan
😂😂😂
100%. Abso-f*ckin-lutely. They have forever smoke. 😂
Sure did😂😂😂beat everyone 💯💯💯
😂
It was a 3 year post season success for the Pistons against the Bulls in the late 80s on route to winning 2 out of 3 chips. So it would seem anyone from the Bulls including MJ, would just be sour grapping if they say the Pistons were underserving champs.
The bad boys were dominant in those days. Rodman was the unsung hero! I hated those guys back in the day. I'm a Lakers fan but I can now respect what they did. Chuck was a good coach too!
What's your take on the 88 finals game 7 Kareem "foul" did laimbeer touch him or not?
@@jasondeaver2117?
@@Mark-ks5tc nevermind apparently you didnt watch that game thought you did based on your original comment have a good day
Jordan never said that!! If so, it would be video footage about it. Where's the video?
@@Mark-ks5tc Yep, that happened in Game 7 of the 1988 NBA Finals. It was infamously known as _"The Phantom Foul"._
Which led to Detroit being snubbed of what should've been their FIRST championship.
For Jordan and the Bulls. “Beat your ass” 😂 Celtics and Lakers just with the “Beat you”
And bulls beat them right back and never looked back
Not sure if Isaiah swept Mike in the playoffs or not. But if he didn't, Mike swept you,then you retired a year later
Still hating after all these years
@@CoreyWillis-b5ghe retired in 94 not 92
@@CoreyWillis-b5g he was injured. Still a hall of fame career in 11 years.
Zeke always sounds so polite, but was an absolute killer.
I love listening to him for some reason, he's exceptionally well spoken and a great storyteller
Even when talking shit lol
Right. Dont let that charming smile fool ya.
He was the he man...loved watching him in the 80s
Zeke is a bitter female 😅
When you beat who you beat to get those rings, Isiah I got to hand you your due respect bro
Facts and I’d stand on tht
I'd Stand on that too.
Everyone who looks into the history of the NBA knows about Michael Jordan and the huge mainstream push they had to market him. Their problem was Isaiah Thomas & the rest of the Detroit Pistons.. The Bulls with Michael Jordan didn't' win until Jordan went to the commissioner complaining about the Pistons so the rules were changed to help him.
That's criteria number 1 for the GOAT application lol
Which is
Did they have to change the rules to counter your dominance ?
@@danielaromoThey changed it because of Jordan complaining?
@@danielaromo - Jordan didn’t play with another all star until 90’. Isiah had a better team around him & had a HOF coach during Jordan’s 1st few seasons.
Isaiah did go through the toughest competition. Coming from a bulls fan
Ngl he isn't lying
He beated the downhill lakers and celtics put some context he never won when magic and bird was in their primes
Moses malone was the only one 🤷♂️😊
Man Put Some Respect On Zeke Name. Him and His Team beat all the Greats when it mattered (playoffs). Magic,Bird and Mike.. All were still in their Prime.. TBH, a bad call cost the bad boy pistons from winning 3 chips in a row! And Isaiah still drop 43 on a hurt ankle gm 6! (Get outta here wit dat Nonsense)
Yea cause they fouled the shit out of everyone
No skill required
@@JordanLamont-hg6xqbeat ?
You mean fouled ??
I know the game was different
But look at reality man
Only way they could win against anyone was to cheat
Forever dogshit
Fuxk the pistons lol
He's not lying. Jordan and Phil were doing multiple interviews the whole series talking about the Pistons and the city of Detroit. 30 years later, Isiah Thomas is still being made out to be the villain. He was elected President of the NBA Players Association BY THE PLAYERS, so he wasn't hated like people claim today. He negotiated the Collective Bargaining Agreement and increased NBA salaries from $300K to almost $2 Million a year. The reason why players have the contracts they have today started with Zeke. Those are facts.
You couldn’t be more wrong about why players have the salaries they have now. He was president from 1988-1994, please 🙏,do yourself a huge f*cking favour and look at salaries then.
It was MJ and the global status of the nba after the olympics that helped raise advertising costs and therefore the salaries.
Facts!!!
@@Somethingwittyxs4ku Isiah Thomas established four historic Collective Bargaining Agreements and pushed to raise the average NBA player’s salary, which increased from $300,000 to $1.8 million under his tenure. That is a fact, period. Top players like Jordan were still mainly making the bulk of their money from advertisements at that time. The bargaining agreements raised salaries for ALL players and increased league minimums for ALL players. Dude, STFU.
@@Somethingwittyxs4kujordan didn’t even speak for scottie, he only minded his business
Jordan bought the dollars to those contracts without him, it wouldn’t have happened. Zeke admitted earlier they are still eating off what Jordan did for the league.
When you the villain you unfortunately dont get the same love even if you're a Super Villain.
Jordan is Batman Unfortunately Isiah is the Joker and he aint even joking
I watched the 20/20 they were the shit
Good f@&#&#&ken i totally agree
Mike practices selective outrage
Nah the joker is Karl Malone.
Nah if he the joker he the one batman just cant stop no matter how man times he stop him he do damage evey time.
What’s cool is how true he is to his team. He cares a little about his accolades, but the team winning was most important to players back then.
He saved the "beat your ass" for Jordan😂😂😂😂
You realize he is lying, right ?
@@bwink23 Lying about WHAT? The Pistons punked Jordan and got him to quit.
@@emmanuelenyinwa1443Quit? How?
@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 And whinned to the league and got rules changed. Jordan only won in a watered down league when all the greats got old and retired.
@hitek9too255 yeah I can tell you too young to even chime in about this with that ignorant regurgated statement. you sound like a robot actually, just repeating what you heard from other ignorant know it alls. the pistons were very much in their prime when they eventually lost to Jordan and the bulls. they were actually a couple of years older than Jordan on average just like Boston was a 4-5 years older than zeke when the pistons beat the Celtics. just because a team dominated an Era doesn't mean that the league is watered down orelse you might as well include every team from every Era to have played in a water down league aka Celtics in the 60s and 70s, Celtics and Los Angeles in the 80s. Educate yourself and have an Original unbiased opinion based on credible research before saying anything please. you can't be lazy and have an opinion at the same time smh.
Laker fan here and i can say well deserved. Seems like Jordan was a sore loser when you beat his ass.
He always congratulated teams when they beat the Bulls. I don't recall him walking off the court and hiding his face like a coward. The Pistons did that. You may wanna do some homework.
The Pistons were the most disrespectful team in the league. They won by playing dirty ball, cheating, kicking, punching and slamming people on the court trying to permanently injure people on purpose. That ain't basketball. That's MMA and WWF tactics. Why do you think they were called Bad Boy Pistons? When the Pistons beat the Bulls, Isaiah had no problem shaking Jordan's hand. But when the Bulls came back and beat the Pistons Ass, Isaiah refused to shake Jordan's hand and walked off the court. Isaiah was the sore loser. Not Jordan. He disrespected Jordan first and never apologized. Jordan didn't hate Isaiah until after Isaiah disrespected him. Jordan used it as motivation to become the GOAT. Isaiah never recovered. 35 years later and he's still bitter.
I agree with the fact that the pistons were not respectful when they lost. I agree Jordan uses it as motivation to beat them. Im simply saying that no matter what the Pistons won and. Y doing so it was deserved. I don’t agree with Jordan stating they were undeserving whether they hated each other or not.
You couldn't be more right Mi Chico. My first game I ever watched was the game Isaiah sprained his ankle played the whole game dropped 40 with nothing but heart and desire. I've been a Bad Boy ever since. And I never gave it much thought but Isaiah is splitting wigs about Mr. Air Jordan. An I argue with my son all the time about Mike being to he goat. His guy is LBJ. But my team is the Pistons and my fav player is A.I. I wish he could of played for the bad boys in his prime. But long story short If it wasn't for the Pistons Mike might have never pushed himself that hard to get past them and win them ships.
@@hellbent7066why are you crying about that I thought that was real basketball right !Yall clown todays game cause we don’t punch and kick and grab so why complain ohh lemme guess cause it goes against daddy Jordan
I'm a MJ Fan but I gotta agree with him 😂... straight facts
I’m from Chicago he’s not lying and the reason I started watching basketball Jordan learned many moves from Isiah
Me too
Thx for the honesty lol
Finally some genuine honest truth in the comment section.
Your a MJ fan or BULLS FAN......I give context why Jordan said that they are undeserving champion because when Jordan/bulls beat there ass and got swept they never shake/shook hand now it's for you to decide if they are deserving or undeserving champion......but this is a facts true champions is gracious in winning and in defeat
A lot of people hate on Zeek, but I'm with him on this one.
Bad Boyz 4 Life ! ! !
Dee-Troit Bas-Ket Ball 🏀 🏀 🏀
“Beat ur ass” …MJ “And I took that personal”😂😂
He said it from the soul
Isaiah Thomas is speaking nothing but the truth they went through hard times to win those back-to-back championships salute to the Pistons old school bad boys
I remember the ‘89 playoffs as the Lakers entered the Finals with an 11-0 record but lost Byron Scott to a hamstring pull before Game 1 and Magic to another hammy in 3Q of Game 2. I’m not saying the Lakers would’ve won but these injuries did eliminate some “hard times” for Detroit.
I realize injuries are a part of the game and Isaiah will tell you he could barely walk in Game 7 of the ‘88 Finals after spraining his ankle in Game 6.
@@natch27 yeah, I was gonna say I mean the Pistons should’ve won in 88 if it wasn’t for injuries and bad calls. I say the same thing about the 2006 pistons when they faced the Hear so many injuries in the playoffs for the Pistons star players, Dwyane Wade and Shaq are lucky or they would’ve never made it to the finals either.
That wasn't old school it was hard knocks and sometimes dirty. The league had to admend ,change ,and implement new rules concerning rough play all because of the Pistons and the things they did. When you push an airborne shooter into the stands ,that's not defense. When you hit a player in the head while he is attempting a layup without going for the ball, that's not defense. When you tackle clothes, line a player while they are attempting a layup that's not legal defense. The rules were changed to curtail the rough play. One thing the players of the league recognized was that Jordan was a far superior player than most in the NBA. The Pistons realized the only way to defeat him was to literally beat him, and that's what they did. They abused him and his teammates severely. But as time revealed itself, the Bull's developed a different attitude and approach. They got tough and stronger physically as well as mentally. Jordan understood what it would take, and he never backed down and insisted his teammates didn't either. To the Piston fans. Be proud of that teams accomplishments. They were great, and that can't be taken away. Most championship teams are usually defeated as a result of many things such as age, injures, retirements, and trades. I just think it's a disservice to dwell on a team that defeated you or stopped your run more than you show appreciation for your accomplishments. Move on and celebrate that Piston team. Dam the rest. They won the first NBA championship for the City. Something Bob Lanier and his teammates couldn't do. They gave the team with Ben, Rasheed ,and Chauncey inspiration. There are still franchises in the league that haven't won one championship, let alone played for one.
@@williamanderson1091 I miss the no layup rule from the late 80s they need to bring that back and it has nothing to do with it being dirty. It has to do with no easy baskets. Now players just stand around while people just lay it up. Just think about it, that takes no effort.
@djtheory313 I don't know what game you are talking about. I was talking about basketball . The rules have to change to protect the players. Lay ups are being contested today, and they were before. The rules changes have been put in place to add an element of safety. One can not push an air born shooter and not make an attempt on the ball. One can't through an elbow and call that a part of defensive play. One can't undercut and make contact on an airborne shooter. One can't shove or displace a player standing in a legal area on the court. Those rules applied then, and they apply now. The issue is that the penalties have increased to protect all players from that type of excessive play to avoid injuries and fights. If you don't like the increase in penalties for certain infractions, maybe you just like excessive force or criticism. Something had to be done before someone got seriously injured or sustained a career ending injury.
I'm a Jordan fan but bro this Pistons team was something else. Respect to Isaiah and the bad boys
They only won cause jordan did not had a good team he was join in a development team so tbh pistons would not win if Jordan team was good same every team jordan face in the 80s was already stack jordan was by him self so let’s be honest here
@@jordanyoutube7488The Pistons were dirty masquerading as tough.
How can you respect a team were they are killing opponents players to the floor? Isaiah just benefited from his team's dirty plays.
Everybody in these comments soft .. they were winners
@@biggballin8242exactly all the teams had enforcers including the damn bulls 😂😂😂
Jordan only said that because Isiah Thomas beat Jordan 3-1 in the playoffs. Knowing how competitive Jordan is. It probably ate him alive losing so much to Isiah.
Without the pistons there is a good chance jordan never becomes the player he turned into
Jordan hated them because they applied dirty tactics.
Ya ok now do a ring count goof
competitive = crybaby and bad loser
All Facts Isiah. This is why you have to be around to tell your own truth. Inform everybody else of the facts not the Fiction for all the story tellers out there!
The Facts are Jordan and 2 - 3yrd playing, 2nd yr starters Swept the SAME EXACT PISTONS ROSTER that won back2back chips 89 & 90 in 1991. Tell that story to yourself a few times.
"Jordan.....They saying you the best..... Beat Cho ass". 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
forgets that it was a young Jordan who then also beat they ass and ended the bad boys era 😂
@@confuddledveryiam2703Jordan didnt end their era, the NBA did forceful trades to the pistons to divide them.
@@DarkshinastaRebornjordan ended him lol isaih career once he hit 30 was trash 😂
@@confuddledveryiam2703that squad had the pistons whole lineup
You can tell Isaiah been an underdog his whole life solider 😂
Meanwhile wasn’t cut from varsity and won state championship in high school/ ncaa championship and nba championship 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@chinaross2859Isiah lost in H.S. at St.Joseph to LOCKPORT.
@@RICHBLACKCOCK as a junior he lead his team to da state title game meanwhile MJ was being cut from varsity🤷🏽♀️
@@chinaross2859 I'm from Chicago. The LOCKPORT PORTERS, coached by Bob Basarich, 58 & 1 over 2 seasons of IHSA basketball play, ranking them right along with future INDIANA HOOSIERS great', THORNRIDGE FALCONS' star Quinn Buckner that lost 1 game over 2 seasons of play:1970-71/1971-72. The Isiah Thomas/Ray Clark were good. They just came up uh tad short against LOCKPORT in the championship gm: Final score: LOCKPORT 64, St Joseph 47.
St. Rita? Hoosiers? Dumars, Laimbeer, Aguirre, Dantley and Rodman?
What is your definition of underdog, dawg?
Those Detroit teams were terrific
Real spit💯. He spoke no lies
loved those Detroit teams..AND NOTICE HOW ZEKE ALWAYS SAYS "WE".. NOT "I" OR "ME" he's a legend and deserves respect
That’s a fact. Fucking Jordan acts like he plays individually.
He literally said, "I dominated Jordan" like it was one on one. That's when dude lost all credibility with anything he says,straight clown🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The Pistons were true champions and so deserving of their titles. I don’t know why Michael would say that.
Because of how they won…..if they couldn’t hurt you they lose. Celtics whipped their ass for YEARS until Bird’s back problems. And they would only have one ring if Scottie wasn’t suffering from migraines during the Pistons repeat bid.
War runs deep
Some beef is everlasting
-Nas
Pistons are the ones that motivated Jordan to elevate his game even more
Especially after getting Rodman from them or they don't win 😂😂😂three more
Because he’s an insecure little girl
I wish there was a love button on RUclips!
Isiah is speaking PURE Unadulterated FACTS!
I'm from Detroit and remembering watching the season games... the Pistons I remember, as a 10 yr old kid, was how they seem to always get the loose balls. I later learned that was hustling and playing hard on every possession.
Celtic fan in the 70's and 80's. I saw the Pistons grow from the early 80's to the late 80's. For almost the entire decade they got beat by the Celtics but the Pistons never gave up and finally beat the Celtics in the late 80's. They are deserving champions.
After the Celtics declined.. They finally beat them.
@@mightymikeamps9317And after the Pistons declined, the Bulls finally beat them 🤷♂️
@@AlexG-tp2ik Nope… Isiah just got his ass beat and did some fake excuses about his hand.
@@AlexG-tp2ikmhmmm true 😂
Let’s not forget that Isiah and the bad boys beat all threee Bulls, lakers, ands Celtics more than they beat Detroit.
Man i always thought he was bitter or something but i am starting to love this man more and more!
Facts!! I never thought he was bitter. U may not know this, but I think Isiah Thomas was among the first people to call Michael Jordan the “best to ever play the game” and always have him credit whenever he got the chance, even though they had their differences.
However, when MJ came out with the documentary and called Isiah Thomas “an asshole”, and refused to apologize, Isiah Thomas took the gloves off and went on the offensive.
He ain’t never gonna stop going after MJ, at least not in our lifetime 😂😂
@@othellomoorceks8544mike gave him his props tho he said zay was top 2 pt gaurds of all
Hes totally right. Detroits lineup was unbelievable. They were scary good. As a laker fan back then, I was terrified of them.
FACTS!!!!! I BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS!!! AND DON'T LEAVE OUT DR. J AND THE SIXERS!!!🤷♂️💯💯💯💪💪💪
Good interview zeke, finally somebody stands up and not afraid to check his ass
“Beat yo ass” he funny for that
He has a valid point..
That “We beatcho azz” sounded personal!!!
😂😂😂😂
Mr. Thomas was The Only NBA Champion To Speak The Truth And Didn’t Idolize MJ……Much Respect
6 beats 2.😂
Wilt, Kareem, and Bill didn't idolize Jordan. They know he has the league catered to him and the system backing him.
@@McFrappin3 beats 1
Jordan was like a god. Kkkkk there is no statue of Isaiah in detroit. Go figure.
@kumbirayimukarakate9614 that was never a thing for the Pistons. The statue... Isiah is revered is Detroit
We know Isiah Thomas was one of the best point Guards ever NO Cap
Even Jordan himself said he was one of the best
Absolutely 💯 💯
He speaking facts
Love how Isaiah doesn't wash Jordans balls like everyone else 😂
That’s why Jordan fanboys hate him
@@garytaylor8616Jordan sent this little sawed-off monkey off the basketball court 9 seconds early crying to the Pistons owner like a little hoe look it up
Jordan’s overrated. Kobe was better
@@squeekyclean1644 ROLMFAO 🤣🤣🤣
@@squeekyclean1644 that has to be one of the most idiotic statements ever made that dude had two championships that he didn't jump on Shaquille O'Neal's back for Jordan two three-peats where he's the main man and you try to say an overrated rapists that jumped on a big man's back to get three other rings is better you're mentally ill dude and anyone else that thinks that little overrated turd was ever on Jordan's level
No lies detected. Yall can talk about Isaiah all you want but he is spitting the truth. Give him his flowers.
ZEKE IS RIGHT PERIOD!!!!!!!!! DOUBLE STANDARD PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PISTON CHAMPIONS PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!
He was an a**hole he got enough time to think about his actions and make a change of personality
@@jevo4360 ZEKE IS RIGHT PERIOD!!!!!!!! DA PISTONS WOOP THE BULLS PERIOD!!!!!! OWN DA BULLS PERIOD!!!!!!!! CHAMPIONS PISTON PERIOD!!!!!!!
He didn’t beat Kareem and magic they were all injured
@@santosjones6186 still don’t change the fact that he was an a**hole
@@andylee6147injured or not. They still took that L!
Love the energy…. Motivation to all…😊
It HIT DIFFERENT when Zeke do his homework‼️😂😂
He hardly has to research this, he lived it.
Zeke said ill bug tf up!😂
@@luckybarnes7576😂😂😂😂
@@jc4388It HIT DIFFERENT when you don’t know why I said it HIT DIFFERENT…. Do YOUR homework
Respect for Isaiah and his team. One of the best teams ever in the league.
crazy how forgotten they've become. They went through the best of the best to go back to back.
@@stevemeters3090pistons were cheated out of a threepeat as well. The phantom foul was wild
Nobody earned it more!
Isaiah Thomas is one of the greatest players that ever played basketball. No one could stop Isaiah and he should have been the first player that was pick for the Olympics
i feel for you
😂😂😂...dream on boy!
Stockton and Pippen should not have been there over Isiah and Worthy.
They had to go over seas and act right not fighting and spitting and shoving. keep that shit in the states. Would've been locked up over there.
@@manuelsoto598pippen was better than worthy at that moment
Thomas speaking facts. They beat Larry Bird’s Celtics that MJ couldn’t win 1 game against in the playoffs.
With what team in 1986??? Be honnest!
@@mlkboogie8172I thought Jordan didn't need help he's God you guys said
@@hallowdemonlopez5660 i never said that…
I’m not a groupie! But in 1986, back from injury and with the squad he had against the Celtics, the Bulls had no chances!
In 1988. Celtics had regressed due to age and injuries by that time.
The Piston never swept Jordan in the playoffs.
The Pistons were a great team. Props to Isaiah and company.
Cool video, but the captioning is terrible lol.
Just awful.
It's like zeke is just saying that their team didn't beat the celtics, lakers, and mj team as if jordan didn't know, that the pistons beat the teams mentioned.
Completely wrong, love it
Boi they was terrible!!!
I know very little about basketball but love these interviews. Remenber on holiday in forida as a kid reading a sports illustrated article about thomas, was always onterested in him. No youtube or baskeball on uk tv in those days.
Isaiah is my man. The only out there not a** licking Jordan
Had too much of mj nuts in his mouth so he never made it around to his a*** 😂😂😂
I think they literally just didn't like each other.🤔
@@DanielHill-y6p
I think it goes way beyond that. Isaiahs family was really good to Jordan when he moved to Chicago. Isaiah didn’t have a problem with him but he just didn’t lol at the bulls as a serious contender in the 80s because they weren’t. I think that really soured Jordan against him. It wasn’t the hate it was the not being considered an equal on the court.
As a MJ fanatic, this are still facts. There’s always a predatory predecessor you must overcome.
MJ23GOAT lives in everyone heads.
And all he does is stays silent, smoke cigars and collect millions from re-releasing shoes from 30 years ago.
MJ(goat) fan till my last breath, but I gotta agree with Isaiah on this one. They were definitely deserving Champs. They did it their way, played their own game and took home the gold. Now I'd call them sore losers for how they responded very unsportsmanlike after the Bulls finally got passed them, but undeserving nah. Isaiah was one of the best PG ever, and the Bulls recruited two of their major role players; J. Sally and Rodman
MJ23GOAT lives in everyone heads.
And all he does is stays silent, smoke cigars and collect millions from re-releasing shoes from 30 years ago.
Isiah n Pistons... greattt man. Those who loves the sport n game n nuetral will agree wt u man ...
Isaiah is top 15 all time for those seasons 88-90
Should’ve three peat if zeke didn’t hurt his ankle
@@pwpstrickShoulda woulda coulda LOL Ah c'mon stop cryin and Tek da L bruh hahahaha
@@pwpstrickand if it was not for that horrible call on bill we would have. That was not a foul not even in todays game
LMAO no he isn't. Not even remotely close
@@sideshowbobsaget8876
There are only 4 teams that won in the 80s and Isiahs team was one of them that won twice…beating Larry, Magic and Jordan 😒 you clearly don’t know basketball
Still hurts not going to the olímpicos 😢
🤣
He already won a Gold Medal before the 92 Dream Team. He should have been on that team over Chris Mullin and Christian Laetner. Everybody knows that.
@@Christopher0632lol the best player in the world did not want him on the team so yeah......
Out of all the languages he could’ve spoke he chose to speak Fax….. put it on for one of if not THE BEST little man to ever play the game!
Isiah makes sense….they had to get past the Celtics, then Lakers while keeping Jordan and Bulls in check. The top the league was never so good than that period. And when they lost to the Celtics and Lakers the games were extremely competitive and especially that one last steal from super clutch Bird that series was about as even as possible particularly when Celtics could not handle the Pistons on the road. I think the Pistons work so hard to peak in 1989-90, they were so exhausted and aged that they could no longer keep up with the athletic emerging reign of the Bulls.
This is the biggest stain on the 🐐’s resume. Very disrespectful..
I don’t know how those facts are disrespectful truly if you were around in that era you know exactly what he’s talking about and why he’s talking about it. Thank you.
Truth hurts 😂
No it’s not… that’s what made him the bulls unstoppable… who beat them after they got passed Detroit? No-Bo-dy! And that’s what separates mj from the fake goat…. Lebron would of requested a trade after the 89 playoffs 🤣
@@jackmayoff5797Wtf Lebron even have to do with this 😂 just enjoy basketball bro dont be arguing for somebody you dont know
He eliminated them in the playoffs and the Pistons walked straight to the locker room without shaking hands. Poor sportsmanship. Isaiah has been on a crusade to save his image since.
Everybody is so busy worshipping Michael Jordan and kissing his ass, it's good to see a grown man not back down and speak his mind. Let Isaiah take over Charlotte, I bet you they would be a lot better than the product Jordan put together with Mitch Kupchak.
He took over the knicks and look what happened lol.
Is this Isaiah cousin or something!!!🤣
@@xepher215 Didn’t he take over the Pacers a year after they made the Finals and made them worse also ?
Isaiah has been in the front office before and he literally couldn’t have done worse.
@@johnvaughan8239same with Jordan my man 🤷🏻♂️
It was the media that created the bad boys of basketball…. Not Jordan
Although I'm a fan of Jordan as a player, Zeke is right. True, the Media labeled his Pistons squad the "Bad Boys." But, Jordan went along with the theme and called them "Undeserving Champions."
@@cmajor8802MJ called them out because they were trying to hurt him ! They wrote a book about it! The Pistons were a great team but they definitely played dirty!
@@cmajor8802 nah I give context why the said the undeserving champion because of the incident when they lost got they refuse to shake/ shook hands unsportsman like conduct for a 2 time champion
@@leoquintos3071 why are you lying 😂😂
He said that after game 3 before the sweep. That's why they walked out.
@@NewWorldDreams47 Bullsh*t they walked out because they got swept by Jordan and 2 - 3rd yr playin, 2nd yr starters, with same exact roster that won back2back championships. You think they would'a walked out if they won? Jordan shook they hands when they were close linin' & scoop slammin. Right? But you gonna tell me they walked off over WHAT JORDAN SAID? Flimsy asses. You just collapsed their entire BADBOY persona with that sh*t. The Detroit Pusstins.. lmao
Talk that shit Isaiah💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
They both need to let this go, I mean it's been over 33 years and M.J. & Zeke are still at it😮!!!
The public needs to let it go. Isaiah just answering questions Hosts are asking him! Mike needs to sit and talk and let the public ask him questions like Isaiah has Done. He won't because he can't account for all the lies he has told!!!!
not Jordan he just made the documentary base on what happen during his play days. MJ is over that foolishness with Zeke.💯MJ just felt at that time piston should of shown respect to the loss. knowing it was so hard 3 times it took bow out like true champion not a bunch of sorry losers piston.
@@mjathisbestandteachingskil6980but mentioned him in it
@@mjathisbestandteachingskil6980I really enjoyed the documentary, but it was evident he bears grudges, quite a few situations in that documentary from decades back that he still had the same perspective and feelings over, that’s not a good trait or world view even if your a game changing genius
You mean Zeke needs to let it go
Pistons could be the barometer of basketball of this era. If a team survive and pass the physicality of this Bad Boys then you deserve to be called the best.
I feel Isiah from the heart 💯
You shouldnt because hes lying or stretching tf out of the truth. He beat those teams but many of the players hes talking about didnt play in the series or for long in those series due to injuries and KAG was a 41yr old role player. I think the only player he actually mentioned that played the whole series, or at all, was MJ.
Dont take my word or his for it just do your own search on Bird, Magic, Jordan, Pippen and KAG that year. Bird didnt even play. I think Magic was out in 2. Pippen in like game 5 of a 4-2 series. His rhetoric is laughable. 😂
Isiah: "We beat yo ass MJ"
also Isiah: "So the Jordan Rules were..."
Lol facts with his salty ahhh
Are they mutually exclusive?
Jordan beat his ass in 91.... or did he forget that? Did he play again? This is like Schumacher. Once he won his first with Ferrari, it was downhill from there.
@@Mboko_God Yes the joke is he said "beat yo ass" and the Jordan rules were literally "beat up Jordan"
He makes a legit point and then for the last 3peat you sign off on your team picking up Rodman. A guy that tormented Pippin lol
The Bad Boys were no joke.They were Bullies but that’s what made it more fun to watch. Bodies would go flying through the air, clotheslines and everything. It’s was WWF NBA edition. 😂
Facts no other harder titles
Every legend had to go through somebody
Yeah, but no one has gone through Jordan, Bird, and Magic in the same run.
Man, he's never letting this go
Stop lying on me then
Stop faking, Zeke speaking facts. Beat your ass and beat your ass.
he took it personally
Mike is the more vindictive one not IT !!!
@@stinkyuhoh999 😂
Isaiah is so spot on!!! I witness that entire playoff journey in that accomplishment by Detroit
Yo I been coming around to Isaiah lately watching some of his clips. He makes a lot of sense.
You wish goofy
TRUTH IS REAL.......... AND I'M A LIFELONG LAKER FAN , BUT TRUTH IS REAL!!!!!!
SPEAK-DAT BROTHA ✊🏿
That respect for Isiah just ROSE man, he did do all that
Rised?
Isiah is telling the truth, and the truth hurts him very badly for decades. Move on, you deserve peace ✌️
AS A BLAQMAN I AGREE WITH MR.THOMAS.
They called the bad boys for a reason. This softening is revisionist history.
Speak the truth Isiah. Legend
Ok this is one time I agree with Isaiah being born in Michigan and living here all my life seeing the pistons going through all these obstacles as a kid was good times 🏀❤
The Bad Boys represented what The D was truly about, more so than ANY other sports team we’ve EVER had (Can’t Touch Dis!) 🙏🏽💯💪🏽‼️
Had in not been for a terrible foul call at the end of game 6 of the 88 finals, the Bad Boys would have 3peated. Couple that with 5 conference finals in a row, and it's hard to argue that the Bad Boys were not a great team.
*Isiah always smiling even when he's mean, arguing and mad! He can never get rid of that smile* 😃😃😃😃
Pistons did have a tough road to championship and should be respected. Isiah is one of the greats like him or not he's on the list of greats.
Mj in the crib lol like look at this guy, mj be like I don't need to remind no one wat i did. the world's know my history 😂😂😂😂the GOAT
HE'S TELLING THE DAMM TRUTH NOTHING BUT FACTS HERE. THEY SHOULD BLAME THE NBA, CAUSE THEY WAS THE ONES WHO LET IT HAPPENED. IT WAS GOOD FOR THE LEAGUE, CAUSE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT 25 YEARS LATER. BUT WE ALL KNOW HE CAN'T STAND JORDAN. THAT WALK OFF THE COURT, THAT'S WHO THEY WAS.
Yeah that walk of shows who he really was piece of shit he beat jordan.every time jordan shake hands
Isaiah Right, His Pistons Beat Some Of Teams That Had Future HOF On Them. He Was 'A Great Player In His Own Right. People Need To Stop Kissing Jordans Ass.
You got to hear what Zeke is saying to understand and he's keeping it real 💯🤔💯
I like Isiah Thomas he be speaking facts
Difference is isaiah said we didn't shake the Bulls hands because Bird and the Celtics didn't shake our hands.So what😮MJ shook y'all hands after every lose to the pistons.And Everybody said y'all were bad for the game.Goggle it
Isiah throwing some truth there.
Pistons got cheated in '88 and came back and won in '89 and '90. They were true champions.
He telling the TRUTH
Not really he beat jordan wit what team tho? Did Jordan had good players in the 1987 1988 1989 season no he had a developments team ya failed to realize that reason why jordan won cause he got good players jordan in the 80s was playing by him self so ofc he would lose if u was a real jordan fan u would know that
All facts....nobody likes to acknowledge it...but in my smokey voice...thats different lol
What I love about this man is he’s never lied when it comes to Michael Jordan and the Bulls and he doesn’t kiss Michael’s ass either
And of course he's lied
So true! 👍🏾
@@drewash99 you wish troll
@@nonamewillbegiven1217 Facts are facts! AND DON'T CALL ME A TROLL!
@@drewash99 you have no facts troll
Let it go Zeke, that Sucka didn’t say a word until they were up 3-0. Should of said all that before the series started if he really felt that way,…
The walk off the court is what prompted him to say what he did. It’s not like he lied about their style of play either. What difference would it have made if he made the comment before? Absolutely no difference.
@@thomasbingley917 You talk your shit before the fight, if you have confidence, not after you’ve won,….
@@thomasbingley917no its not he said that before they won get your facts right
This interview is old as hell. It’s not like Zeke brought it up last week.
@@prvtjy Lmao! “If” you have confidence? As to say that MJ didn’t have confidence? You sound really elementary. Stop it…
Thanos needs to shut up already 😂.
Talk you talk Isaiah 💯
Jordan was and still is petty.
when there is team loyalty , team rivalry exist. its normal to hate other teams who made it hard for your team. its the bulls team that hate pistons.
But it's Isiah Thomas is one that's crying 30 years later not mike