I like how Trunks is an opportunist because of the future he grew up in. There was no time for posturing or powering up where he’s from. It’s do or die for him.
The only person I can think of, maybe besides Piccolo, who does that. Vegeta toys with his opponents and is arrogant. Goku is too merciful and also drags on the fight. Trunks gets right to the point.
Trunks was from a timeline where shit got real quickly. No dragon balls. No team of super heroes to get support from. No real mercy from the androids. No time to fuck around.
Future gohan has it worse if you think about it Lost his father twice (death from piccolo, heart attack) Lost all his friends from androids Forced to protect earth all by himself and got killed in the process Has zero contact with his mom and grandpa (ox king) Only friends were Trunks and Bulma Lived nowhere Lost his arm protecting trunks
+JC 587 you forgot to mention some events: +Forced to survive/train under Piccolo's harsh methods as a kid after being kidnapped by his uncle which resulted in his father's death +Lost all his friends to the Saiyans +Left for Namek only to see an entire race butchered by Frieza and his men +Teleported back to Earth and made to believe his father died from Namek's explosion
I hate that Sabat has lost the accent part of the voice and his tone is falt so Vegeta sounds tired. I get that doing a voice is hard work and sometimes all the extra bells and whistles are actually hurting the VAs but it definitely sounded unique from his piccolo voice.
@@thaddeusmarcuscheeleyjr.786 vegeta sounds way better in kai and dbs imo. Chris doesn’t sound forced his vegeta became natural as well as piccolo. Vegetas wrath in the namek saga is what did it for me top tier🔥
1:08-1:19 Vegeta: "It looks like he took pity on you loser! That's too bad, you're so pathetic." 2:16-2:22 Vegeta: "now that's too bad, by doing that you've just showed them how weak you are" Vegeta was roasting everyone 😂
I like how the only one who actually does anything is Trunks yet legitimately everyone else is complaining about what's happening, directly infront of them.
Trunks throughout the ENTIRE franchise, including dragon ball super, is the only dude to get anything done and take every situation seriously, while prioritizing the lives of everyone else above all. Vegeta just wants to show off, goku just wants a good fight, gohan just wants to try to end everything peacefully and gets way too cocky when he has the upper hand. Id trunks sees a threat to others, he immediately does everything he can to end it. His pride is irrelevant, his chances of winning are irrelevant. He just gets shit done. Like, he single handedly won the buu saga by smartly preparing, and then dominating all of them quickly before they could even release buu. He also ends the cell saga quickly and easily as well. While everyone else in the main timeline just make things so so so so much worse for themselves even when they have WAYYYY more power at their disposal and options than trunks ever had. And they do so much worse againt their enemies lol.
Hes just a better guardian of earth lol. He gets shit done. when he finds cell in his timeline he one shots him. When buu becomes a threat he wrecks everyone as quickly as possible so buu is never even released. Half the plots of the main timelines, only happen cause on of the z fighters are being dumb, selfish, and reckless as hell.
Trunks would definitely talk some shit before he kills you but none of that "I'll give you a sensu bean or I'll let u reach your max power" crap. He doesn't let his pride get in the way of getting things done
@@bobdylan1968 But let's be honest. Would you have it any other way? If Goku and Vegeta went do cocky, no one would reach their full potential and DBZ would be like 70 episodes, and Kai 20.
Okay, I have to admit. Not even TFS can stop the sheer awesomeness that is Trunks screaming "NOOOOOO!" to the top of his lungs while firing off an epic blast.
@@UndeadItachi2 It would take too much time to find the real ones. Besides I've seen WAY too many people leave comments like " this is why tfs is better" or anything close to that. The ones that say that don't deserve to call themselves dragonball fans. So I don't need to justify what I claim, now piss off
DBS shows how far we come as a family, I forget how intense these used to be seeing them for the first time. Makes me want to rewatch every one of them.
I had to laugh at Vegeta here for talking trash to Krillin. Vegeta doesn't stand any more chance vs the Androids than he does at this point... Sad for him lol
Wat are you talking about kirillin would have gotten blown to pieces if he were to step forward against the android... Vegeta only got his arm fractured...
This saga was always a sneaky favorite for me; it felt like the last bridge to the original Dragonball. Besides the narrative connection and score, Toriyama's character design was some of his best.
Krillin saying "you talking to me?!" Sounded almost like the joke from movies with the mobster from movies in the 80s or so. Also it's fascinating how Vegeta's voice is so drastically different now than it was back then even with the same voice. Chris Sabat really changed his voice over the years for Vegeta.
He wasnt insane, he was desperate. He knew what the androids were capable of, he lived through the terror of losing everyone around him, and him leaving his future was already a risky move since he was the future's only deffender. But in this timeline, not only they were powerless againts 18 and 17, but there would have been a third one, 2 of them were already enough to end all, but a third? And him acting this way was a desperate attempt to end all before it would be too late. Him dying there and leaving the future unprotected, and everyone else dying there making the trip to the past worthless was off the table for the drink.
teckworks Didn't expect to find you here of all places, dude. Say that might be very sudden, and you are in no way entitled to respond to me, but I'm curious, as someone that has been following your stuff, have you ever worked on anything Dragon Ball Related? Art, music or other?
@@nash100ful Vegeta has respect for Krillen because he did fight Nappa when Nappa was much stronger and did pretty well. Krillen also stood up to Vegeta and later on Perfect Cell. The problem was Krillen just got beat up by Gero and Gero got squashed by 17.
Trunks lowkey doesn't realize 16 was needed for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2, 18 was needed to show Vegeta he ain't shit, and 17 was needed to be the last survivor in the Tournament of Power to wish everyone back like the Omni-King predicted.
Yeah, and all that was needed for Xanadu and black goku to kill his mom, killing all the gods of destruction, and xeno erasing the entire timeline including the survivors left on earth 😬
"You with the shiny head, come here."
*Piccolo, Tien, and Krillin all look at each other*
😂😂
🤣🤣 that's good bro I didn't even realize that
😭 😭 😭
I don’t think 17 was gonna kill krillin
😂😂😂
lmao vegeta just standing there criticising everyone
You just showed them how weak you are!
Lucas Frejborg That’s precisely what makes him one of the best characters
😂😂😂😂😂
And then he gets shitkicked the hardest. It's why it's so much fun to watch him get hurt.
It bites him back reallll bad later on for talking sh*t
Ironically, the android they set free indirectly saved the world.
thats really good story development
and people say akira isnt a genius writer
no. by your logic cell saved the world coz he got gohan angry
tupac shakur but android 16 helped channel gohan to his inner strength...
YEEEEEEEEEEEES!
"Don't be a coward. Go on, fight him!" Vegeta tryna get Krillin massacred!!🤦♂️🤣😭
Bruh, he literally watched freiza impale his ass like 3 years ago and really expected him to fight!lol
Vegeta to a newborn: DONT BE A COWARD GO ON FIGHT HIM
Mike Tyson: *walks away*
"All by myself 😰?" 😂😂😂
Vegeta doesn't care about krillin life that's all
Team 3 star!
I like how Trunks is an opportunist because of the future he grew up in. There was no time for posturing or powering up where he’s from. It’s do or die for him.
Facts he's a true warrior plain and simple get the job done
The only person I can think of, maybe besides Piccolo, who does that. Vegeta toys with his opponents and is arrogant. Goku is too merciful and also drags on the fight. Trunks gets right to the point.
He ain’t even have time to develop that saiyan arrogance that his kid self has in this universe. All about that action.
That's why he's always been my favorite character in Dragon Ball Z.
@@rc59191W fav character fr
I like how everyone just sits there watching to see what happens and trunks just won't have any of it
Trunks was from a timeline where shit got real quickly. No dragon balls. No team of super heroes to get support from. No real mercy from the androids. No time to fuck around.
For real...he even attacked cell when he was transforming into perfect cell....He knows whats up.✌
Since when were they sitting?
Which is why, to me, he's the best in the entire series when it comes to being logical about giving the opponents an advantage.
He lived that shit already .. he wouldn’t dare go through that again , I feel his vibe
trunks has the most tragic back story of all the main z characters.
Vegeta's is pretty bad too
Future gohan has it worse if you think about it
Lost his father twice (death from piccolo, heart attack)
Lost all his friends from androids
Forced to protect earth all by himself and got killed in the process
Has zero contact with his mom and grandpa (ox king)
Only friends were Trunks and Bulma
Lived nowhere
Lost his arm protecting trunks
+JC 587 you forgot to mention some events:
+Forced to survive/train under Piccolo's harsh methods as a kid after being kidnapped by his uncle which resulted in his father's death
+Lost all his friends to the Saiyans
+Left for Namek only to see an entire race butchered by Frieza and his men
+Teleported back to Earth and made to believe his father died from Namek's explosion
Era Art the icing on the depressing cake
JC 587
And then his soul gets erased by zeno
Vegeta at 0:45 😂😂 "Don't be a coward, go on, FIGHT HIM!" Poor Krillin had zero chance against 17.
@Lucas Frejborg yeah if only he had the balls to engage with them atleast
Shoaib Haq but vegeta would’ve still went up their he ain’t no pussy😂
Disciple AJ best part was when Tien said that he had his back hahahahaha
"C'mon guys we're in this together" 😂😂
stfup he went up against cell PERFECT cell.
I just love how Vegeta's like, "Come on bro, beat his ass." 😂
Lmao trying to instigate this man into getting his ass killed 😂💀💀
1:32 my boy krillin hit the “drive by” dive
If Tien says he’s got your back....he HAS got your back. Badass.
If Yamcha says he's got your back, he'll probably get blown up so you're still on your own
If Yamacha says he's got your back say like the sabiman had yours lol
These comments😂😂
Stop this
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 Hahahahah!
Oh come on, Krillin, try to have a little bonding time with ur Future Brother-in-law
+Pony Studio ur profile picture matches perfectly with ur comment
Like he knew😂😂
Wha?
@The Weavile And to think, the 2nd most useless character in the super manga top is the reason the winner joined up...
@@wholesome_masochist4113 who's the first
Vegeta dissed Krillin like 3 times in 10 seconds at 1:10 lmao
Brandon Reed I'm dying rn lmaooo
Brandon Reed damn lol
Brandon Reed g
Yoooooooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
XD
I get chills every time i watch this "IF THEY SET THAT ANDROID FREE IT WILL BE THE END FOR ALL OF US NOOOOOOO"
I'm that android
"You're not activating another android not so long as I'm around to stop you Haaaaaah! Aaaaaah!" Trunks DBZ kai dubbed.
The desperation in his voice. Can tell he's got ptsd.
This is Vegeta’s best voice! The tone, accent, all of it sounds bad ass.
Chris Sabat everyone
@inveterate 77 Hell yes.
Someone need to get the word "bad ass" and stick over 9,000 knives into it, and then set it on fire.
I hate that Sabat has lost the accent part of the voice and his tone is falt so Vegeta sounds tired. I get that doing a voice is hard work and sometimes all the extra bells and whistles are actually hurting the VAs but it definitely sounded unique from his piccolo voice.
@@thaddeusmarcuscheeleyjr.786 vegeta sounds way better in kai and dbs imo. Chris doesn’t sound forced his vegeta became natural as well as piccolo. Vegetas wrath in the namek saga is what did it for me top tier🔥
See Trunks? This is what happens when you don't spend 15 minute charging your Final Flash.
Best statement evee
Ever*
it was burning attack !
@Mijorin it was burning attack
@Mijorin the attack you mean for is burning slash . The triangle hands is burning slash.
You do your analysis again.
1:08-1:19 Vegeta: "It looks like he took pity on you loser! That's too bad, you're so pathetic."
2:16-2:22
Vegeta: "now that's too bad, by doing that you've just showed them how weak you are"
Vegeta was roasting everyone 😂
lol I was weak the whole time i had it on rewind in tears lol
Yeah then several episodes later he gets his arm broken.
Also Vegeta: gets rekted 5 mins later
"Amazing how all that bravado goes out the window when you're lying on your ass. That's just sad." ~Andriod 18
@@Blizzanity 😂😂😂😂
I like how the only one who actually does anything is Trunks yet legitimately everyone else is complaining about what's happening, directly infront of them.
MXALove all of dbz in a nutshell lmaooo
Trunks is always the most logical one
@@RadioactiveSince1990x yeah mostly because he had the most fucked up life
Trunks throughout the ENTIRE franchise, including dragon ball super, is the only dude to get anything done and take every situation seriously, while prioritizing the lives of everyone else above all.
Vegeta just wants to show off, goku just wants a good fight, gohan just wants to try to end everything peacefully and gets way too cocky when he has the upper hand.
Id trunks sees a threat to others, he immediately does everything he can to end it. His pride is irrelevant, his chances of winning are irrelevant. He just gets shit done.
Like, he single handedly won the buu saga by smartly preparing, and then dominating all of them quickly before they could even release buu. He also ends the cell saga quickly and easily as well. While everyone else in the main timeline just make things so so so so much worse for themselves even when they have WAYYYY more power at their disposal and options than trunks ever had. And they do so much worse againt their enemies lol.
@@RadioactiveSince1990x ofc he is because he knew the outcome and didn’t want history to repeat itself
That's why I like trunks cause he doesn't let anyone grow to there full power
lol and we know that Goku & Vegeta would let them go full power because they are full blooded saiyans.
Hes just a better guardian of earth lol. He gets shit done. when he finds cell in his timeline he one shots him. When buu becomes a threat he wrecks everyone as quickly as possible so buu is never even released.
Half the plots of the main timelines, only happen cause on of the z fighters are being dumb, selfish, and reckless as hell.
Trunks would definitely talk some shit before he kills you but none of that "I'll give you a sensu bean or I'll let u reach your max power" crap. He doesn't let his pride get in the way of getting things done
@@bobdylan1968 But let's be honest. Would you have it any other way?
If Goku and Vegeta went do cocky, no one would reach their full potential and DBZ would be like 70 episodes, and Kai 20.
@@bobdylan1968 exactly he ain’t got time for that nonsense
0:37 wild that Krillin and 17 became in laws lol
Okay, I have to admit. Not even TFS can stop the sheer awesomeness that is Trunks screaming "NOOOOOO!" to the top of his lungs while firing off an epic blast.
They did loo
Ik it gave me goosebumps? Gives me a eerie feeling like all of dragon ball z.
I hate bandwagon fans with a passion
If only you can point out the real ones you might be able to justify your hatred for them.
@@UndeadItachi2 It would take too much time to find the real ones. Besides I've seen WAY too many people leave comments like " this is why tfs is better" or anything close to that. The ones that say that don't deserve to call themselves dragonball fans. So I don't need to justify what I claim, now piss off
"Vegeta, I think he wants to talk to you"......lmao!!!!!!!
Nshsls Snshshsj ohh word 😒, would I really 🙄, this is comin from a person w a dicchead name
Nshsls Snshshsj my name actually stands for something while your name sound like it came out of a Harry Potter Book 📖
Nshsls Snshshsj Lmaooo...alright so please enlightened me on what your name stands for
Nshsls Snshshsj oh wrd u sure it doesn’t mean your Sister is my bitch🤔 or your Mother is a “bitch”
@@107baccin3 yo stfu
1:22 Apple CEO's reaction to the Samsung Galaxy S8 confirmation
Marry me please, you made my day.
That too made my day thank you
Lol
hahahaha
1:22
The ONLY DBZ and Super character that knows how to use his brain and not wager life on a 1v1 or, in this case, a 1v3.
Yes, tired of the endless monologues.
Love how they timed Trunks' "Noooo!" with his SSJ transformation. ❤
Shit was epic
I like how krillin jumps at the last minute when trunks finally snaps
If Yamcha says he's got your back, he'll probably get blown up so you're still on your own
It's because he was scared according to vegeta
That was funny
Really weird I didn't comment in this thread but it's showing me something I posted in another thread in here.
Tfs pointed it out especially, and it's hilarious
Best line from Vegeta to Krillin 😂😂 "Don't be a coward! Go on, fight him!" 😂
Trunks: Well at least I did something instead of just standing there!
:/
We do, do that a lot 😂
Vegeta: So you just assumed they were destroyed?
True Golden Frieza we do that a lot too
😂😂😂
1:22
if they don’t put the timestamp it’ll be the end of all of us!!! NOOOOOOOOO
"It looks like he took pity on you, LOSER."
I'm dying.
1:09-1:20, haha krillin got verbally killed
1:19 "WhAT?!" 😡
His wife didn't have any of it, in fact she broke his arm
@@miguelruinz9776 poor krillin
Vegeta is the biggest troll in dragon ball
Add one to the krillen "owned" counter
If vegeta f*** up this saga it'll be the end of all of us! Nooooooooooo
Jay Smoove well he did so I'm dead
He did and we all died😂
4 REAL😂😂👌✌
Ahahahaga
@Mijorin It wouldn't have mattered if Vegeta hadn't allowed Cell to go and absorb 18
OK...that has got to be the most hilarious thing I've seen in ages.
1:27 every 10 yr old boy when your mom tells you she doesn’t want u watching DBZ!!! Lol
Wrong title; it should be “Trunks is the only sane one”
On god
1:09 every sentence Vegeta insulted Krillin lol
Trunks screaming No gives me chills everytime
1:26 if you look closely you can see bald trunks :D
I'll never look at it the same again
+Don't Bother IF YOU WATCH THAT CLIP ITLL BE THE END OF ALL OF US! NOOOO!!!
they forgot to draw his sideburns and hair, damn that's pretty poor attention to detail.
I sent it to my friend and he loves trunks he’s going to hurt me
*low fade
DBS shows how far we come as a family, I forget how intense these used to be seeing them for the first time. Makes me want to rewatch every one of them.
what family? lol.
"Vegeta i think he wants to talk to you"
😂😂😂
i remember the first time i saw this scene it was so awesome i had goose bumps
I miss the old dbz days!! Truely beautiful
I love how Vegeta is already training Trunks and giving him fighting tips...shows he already cares about him
*gets head kicked off*
“Ok, now I am mad! 😡”
He acts like this happens all the time lol
Vegeta's role is to roast everyone 😂
I like how gero was so casual about him saying he is mad
Right lol head off and all
Trunks the most sensible badass of all time.
Trunks doesn’t go insane, that’s just PTSD.
Noone:
Literally nobody:
Trunks outta nowhere: IF THEY SET THAT ANDROID FREE ITLL BE THE END OF ALL OF US. NOOOO.!!!
( >°O°)> ====¤
Bruh 🤣🤣🤣
Vegeta: 😏
Everyone:🤯😳😯😬
Trunks: 😡
I felt that when Trunks yelled that ...He really was trying to save the past
This whole scene funny as hell 😂
Love how serious Trunks was
Trauma
I had to laugh at Vegeta here for talking trash to Krillin. Vegeta doesn't stand any more chance vs the Androids than he does at this point... Sad for him lol
SAD FOR YOUUUUUUU
Warp_2567 omg 😂
vegeta proved himself countless times lets not be a hating prick
Wat are you talking about kirillin would have gotten blown to pieces if he were to step forward against the android... Vegeta only got his arm fractured...
That's exactly why he got his ass beat by 18, Krillin's future wife😂😂
The Bruce Falconer music helps make this scene. Thanks for including it
This saga was always a sneaky favorite for me; it felt like the last bridge to the original Dragonball. Besides the narrative connection and score, Toriyama's character design was some of his best.
1:31 Nobody gives enough props to the voice actors of Trunks and adult Gohan
2:10 💀💀💀 Vegeta stays clowning
TRUNKS IS BADASSS
I love how trunks randomly started tweaking after a whole minute standing there 😭
"Don't be a coward go on fight him" Damn Vegeta has no chill 🤣🤣🤣
still gets chills ...from trunks rant, blast and the music playing while he does it 😨
0:49 Piccolo in his head: *USE YOUR FCKING KIENZAN CHRIST*
"Don't be a coward, FIGHT HIM!"
Almost died hahahaha!
Krillin saying "you talking to me?!" Sounded almost like the joke from movies with the mobster from movies in the 80s or so.
Also it's fascinating how Vegeta's voice is so drastically different now than it was back then even with the same voice.
Chris Sabat really changed his voice over the years for Vegeta.
I like how they inserted the Bruce falconer audio for the scene while the rest was remastered
The bruce falconner music came out of nowhere 😂
😮🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I don’t know how I never noticed but at 1:29 you can see piccolo look back at trunks like “wtf”😂
1:28 Right bro his turn was light year fast 😂🤣 had me on the floor 😭😭 nigga was like 😳😳😳 then Krillen at 1:33 OHH SHIIT 😭😭
Love those lines "If they wake up that android that will be the end of us all!!!!"
Devious J lol also "If Trump wins the election it will be the end of us all NOOOOOOOOO!!"
MiraculousPokemonDBZ fan 4 life L
Dbzgirl_ladynoir B.B He’s gonna win again too lol
Ironically , he saved the world 😭😭😭😭
Could've quoted it right.
The pushed back fade goes H A R D
He wasnt insane, he was desperate. He knew what the androids were capable of, he lived through the terror of losing everyone around him, and him leaving his future was already a risky move since he was the future's only deffender. But in this timeline, not only they were powerless againts 18 and 17, but there would have been a third one, 2 of them were already enough to end all, but a third? And him acting this way was a desperate attempt to end all before it would be too late. Him dying there and leaving the future unprotected, and everyone else dying there making the trip to the past worthless was off the table for the drink.
1:27 when you're 50 years old in the future and your kid asks what amogus is
"Oh, I got my head kicked off, boy am I mad"
teckworks Didn't expect to find you here of all places, dude.
Say that might be very sudden, and you are in no way entitled to respond to me, but I'm curious, as someone that has been following your stuff, have you ever worked on anything Dragon Ball Related? Art, music or other?
Vegeta was roasting everyone in this 3 minute clip lmaoo
1:26 - Trunks gets so mad he loses his fade.
Tien: don't worry dawg Ive got you covered
Also tien: steps back in fear
1:22
The song when trunks blasted the cave gave me goosebumps
Trunks, always being incredible
“IF THEY SET THAT ANDROID FREE, IT WILL BE THE END OF ALL OF US! NOOOOOOO! HAAAAAAAAAA!”
"dont be a coward, go on, fight him" what kind of reaction to whats going on is that lol
Tien: don't worry krillin I got your back
How is that suppose to make him feel better the strongest ones there are vegeta and Trunks lol
RemixTV1000 And piccolo lol. But I died laughing when vegeta said fight him 😭
Because vegeta gave him the thought of going 1 on 1 with 17 but tien wanted to ease his fear
@@nash100ful Vegeta has respect for Krillen because he did fight Nappa when Nappa was much stronger and did pretty well. Krillen also stood up to Vegeta and later on Perfect Cell. The problem was Krillen just got beat up by Gero and Gero got squashed by 17.
Also Tien knows he has that Kikoho ready in case of emergency.
Don’t forget kamiccolo
Tien, "Don't worry about it Krillin, I got you covered" -_________-
17 - "Hey brother in law come here."
Krillin - "who me? Now I'm really scared."
"You with the shinny head, cmere" :)
0:04 Oh no, guys, watch out: the head is mad. Better steer clear or he might glare at you.
And with Vegeta’s comment, he disqualified himself for father the year 😂
Valid Crashout
I miss this vegeta
I don't he's so stupid his pride made him doom the whole planet!!
Savannah Bancroft/ KaeliaSaiyanBlue shutup idiot
Well Gokus stupidity made everyone shit pants as well. Like throwing a senzubean to Cell perfect.
Dbs vegeta is nothing compared to this badass vegeta
How about.Brian Drummonds Vegeta?
“i think he was talking to you vegeta” 😂😂
Alternative title: trunks goes bald after seeing another android
The shock on Piccolo and Vegetas face gets me everytime.
The music when trunks blast the androids gives me chills everytime
I love how he’s like no one could survive that , when legit no one is even remotely scratched.
1:14 Vegeta speech is real 💯💯💯
IT WILL BE THEND OF ALL OF US
Trunks is the only person I dbz who don’t let the enemy do it
Trunks is just Iconic as Gohan 💫💚
Ok...trunks you're a great guy and all BUT WHO TF TRASHED YOUR FADE BRUH 1:25
Animation mistake
I’m saying bald ass sides got cut way to low
It actually looks good
Trunks lowkey doesn't realize 16 was needed for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2, 18 was needed to show Vegeta he ain't shit, and 17 was needed to be the last survivor in the Tournament of Power to wish everyone back like the Omni-King predicted.
well that trunks is from a different timeline so the events of super would not happen
At that point, who would even know?
Yeah, and all that was needed for Xanadu and black goku to kill his mom, killing all the gods of destruction, and xeno erasing the entire timeline including the survivors left on earth 😬
Sound track of that screen when trunk fire that kai blast was epic. A all time dbz classic.