I went crazy trying to find a power solution for 8K raw 60. Now I have realized it takes too much storage and effort to shoot and edit this way. I always shoot in 4K but I would suggest new users use 4K and use the 8K 60 when they have the money and time.
I've had the R5C since it was released, you get about 45 minutes to an hour on average on a single Lp battery. It's not great but definitely usable. The only mode affected by the lp batteries is raw LT 8k at 60p, which has been said to require external power. All you need is a 45 watt power bank or v mount and it fixes all power issues. Amazon has a 45 power bank for less than $50, you'll get about 3+ hours and will work with 8k 60p. Guys, it's really not as bad as he says.
the very fact that you have been condition to think that it's not that bad truly defines how delusional canon fanboy are. sony has never had this issue with their a7siii, a7iv and a1 lineup. if your camera lose the ability for autofocus without using external source of power, that is a fucking big problem.
@@shzammpatapon9865 lol I'm not a fanboy brah, it's just an easy fix that's blown out of proportion. I really like A7 line up, they're solid cameras for sure, but they don't have raw 8k 60, which is again the only mode in the R5C that requires additional power. Auto focus works on all modes.
@@shzammpatapon9865 I've had just as many issues with battery life on Sony cameras as on Canon cameras. And in most cases, Sony cameras don't let you use V-mount batteries via USB-C, which the R5C does. I'd say it is much more flexible in terms of power options than Sony A series cameras.
No.. you don't get 45 on a single battery. You get that on 2 original batteries.. I'm using it with the grip and sometimes only get 39 minutes from fully charged batteries to empty. But, with an external Anker Powerbank you get 5 hours+ non-stop recording up to 8K 60. You can hot-swap a powerbank and keep recording until you grow gray hair. Also, 4K60 is not losing autofocus functionality and it's still 'using' the 8K readout from the sensor.
@@pr1sm55 You must be using the Old LP batteries. Are you using the LP-E6NH batteries? On average I get about 40-45 minutes in 4k, while 8k I get under 30 minutes. Also I never said you lose autofocus in 4k60.
For any true cinema camera that doesn't have the amazing beefy batteries that the C70 has, you're gonna be using V-mount or Gold mount anyways. I've paired the R5C with the FX Lion Nano One which is an awesome, tiny, and affordable 50 wh V-mount + USB-C battery. Grab it for around $160 on Amazon, attach it to the R5C with a long USB-C cable, and you can literally put it in your pocket and get at least 1.5 hours on full charge, continuous shooting. The only difficulty is not getting the cable stuck on things while run and gun shooting, but that is totally manageable. Even better, just mount the camera and battery on a rail system and you're good to go!
This camera is so great but not pivoting to another battery makes it useless. I have bought this camera three times now, each time thinking I will rig it out minimally and it will be fine but it's not and every rigging option turns this into something larger than the c70 with horrible ergonomics and wires all over the place. Slapping a fan on the r5 so it won't overheat in 4k 120 fps or 8k raw is not a design solution, canon should have made a grip and I don't care how funky that allowed the use of bp batteries because you can't even set up your menu with a full OEM lp6nh without %75 of your battery evaporating. Canon tested this and still basically released a sports car with 1/2 gallon gas tank. I literally watching this video right now before I sell my third r5c to see if anyone had figured out how to power this camera without turning it into a giant clunky piece of garbage. I guess I'd rather be stuck with sdxc card data bottleneck that comes with c70 than have to have 19 little batteries and 3 stupid rigs for this thing
Have you ever tried the all recording modes you were talking about? I am asking because my EOS R5C (and 2 other R5C in my company) records using Canon RF lenses with no problem at all, - 5.9K 50p,60p and 2.9K up to 120p with full lens functions, AF etc. The manual I got for this camera also says that the only mode which needs external power is 8K 60P which corresponds to what is in my and my company cameras.... So there is one of the two: either you did not even checked what this camera can do, or my cameras are broken in some way... if the former is the case, sorry , but it means your video is a bunch of misinformation if the latter I am happy first time ever to have broken cameras... Just to clarify: I use 15-35 and 24-70 RF lenses.
I'm having a issue... I'm getting insanely tack sharp images with a 5D Mark II + EF 70-200mm F2.8 III but when I use it with Canon's EF-RF adapter on the R5 C images are never tack sharp. Almost soft. Any idea why that is?
Each to their own, but I don’t understand the hate. Especially from a company renting out camera solutions? A nano one gets me 4hr 35m continuous recording powering jus the camera. Powering a Shinobi and camera together it gets 2hr 54m. And it charges in under 2hrs with a 65w gallium nitrate USBC charger that super small I just throw in a bag. Watching videos like this had me worried going into the R5C but it’s really not an issue.
Completely agree with you on this, I love the Nano One. I'm not getting quite that much battery life out of it though, wow! What mode were you shooting in to get 4.5 hrs continuous recording??
@@DynamicPhil84 1080p 25p. I find its generally frame rate that uses more power not resolution. 8K uses least power of all as it not doing any compression just dumping sensor data to the card. But 50p in any mode and the battery gets hammered.
@@LatexFashionTV Interesting... I would have thought that shooting RAW would consume the most battery, but you have a point that the camera is just dumping the RAW data without having to convert to another format. I'd be very curious to see how much runtime you get on the Nano shooting 8K 24/25p in RAW LT continuous, along with 8K 50/60p RAW.
@@DynamicPhil84 when I get time I’ll do the test but I’d suspect the same run time or longer. The higher data speeds might offset the power savings with compression. It’s also the reason it can’t do 8K 60 MP4. There’s no power budget left for compression at that frame rate. There’s an hour long interview with a canon engineer elsewhere on RUclips that’s really interesting where he explains it all. He didn’t rule out it 8K 60 being an option in future when it’s more optimised. But he didn’t promise it either lol
Yep. The Nano One can provide the 3A at 9V mode that the R5C requires, and the Jupio and TetherTools DTAP->USB-C converters can do so with older cine batteres. The R5C's maximum input is 27W (limited by the aforementioned 9V/3A PD mode) so in theory it could run down a Nano One in a bit under 2 hours. I buy that it would go twice that long in a forgiving mode like 1080p25.
Jupio and TetherTools make adapters that can fully power the R5C via USB-C from a V-Mount's DTAP port. See my comment on this video. Also as others have pointed out some newer V-Mount batteries like the Nano One have native USB-C PD outputs suitable for driving the R5C, but that's more of an investment than just getting an adapter for your existing batteries.
It seems like Canon could easily engineer a battery "grip" that accommodates the batteries used by their cinema cameras. A bit bulky, yes, but not as much as an external USB C power bank. The R5 C would essentially look like a C70 with this battery attachment connected.
Honestly if you've got a video camera that's sucking down 27W (the R5C's limit), then you might be better off powering it from an outboard battery anyway. I've rented the C70, and it can be a tiring body to handhold with the larger batteries. My big gripe with the R5C is that you're forced to power it via a non-locking USB-C connector. Lots of possibilities for accidental mayhem there.
@@patrickchase5614 just keep an fully charged LP battery in it and have a usb-c magnetic clip on to power it via a powerbank. it might pop off every now and again, but it's not going to immediately turn off for some time as the LP battery will be fully charged.
Try Alvin's cables dummy battery and a neewer 99wh v mount battery d-tap or USB c power should help. Also true cinema camera users utilize manual focusing techniques.
Lens no workie!! One of THE best comments on any RUclips video ever!! Also Cinema RAW Development no workie on a Mac M1 chip or my 4 year old Mac laptop. So far haven't been able to find a Canon rep who cares about addressing that problem. I want to love my R5C and I do love the 100-500 lens but so far no love yet and going back to my RED Epic more than I thought I would.
There are quite a lot of reasonable power solutions for the R5 C. I am quite disappointed in Lens Pro To Go for not packaging reasonable solutions and renting them out as a package. If you are going to complain then complain to Canon. I do not see how this video is helpful at all to Lens Pro To Go customers. We rely on you to come up with these solutions for us,
The power issues, plus the micro HDMI, are the reason I ultimately abandoned Canon after being a customer since 1973. I went all-in with another brand and lens system.
Good video BUT…… everyone is talking about 8k 60. Who shoots 8k? My MacBook doesn’t like 8k unless proxies are used. No one owns an 8k tv. I think it’s great because to down sampling to 4k makes stunning images. But show me a persons who needs and uses 8k 60.
I went crazy trying to find a power solution for 8K raw 60. Now I have realized it takes too much storage and effort to shoot and edit this way. I always shoot in 4K but I would suggest new users use 4K and use the 8K 60 when they have the money and time.
I've had the R5C since it was released, you get about 45 minutes to an hour on average on a single Lp battery. It's not great but definitely usable. The only mode affected by the lp batteries is raw LT 8k at 60p, which has been said to require external power. All you need is a 45 watt power bank or v mount and it fixes all power issues. Amazon has a 45 power bank for less than $50, you'll get about 3+ hours and will work with 8k 60p. Guys, it's really not as bad as he says.
the very fact that you have been condition to think that it's not that bad truly defines how delusional canon fanboy are. sony has never had this issue with their a7siii, a7iv and a1 lineup. if your camera lose the ability for autofocus without using external source of power, that is a fucking big problem.
@@shzammpatapon9865 lol I'm not a fanboy brah, it's just an easy fix that's blown out of proportion. I really like A7 line up, they're solid cameras for sure, but they don't have raw 8k 60, which is again the only mode in the R5C that requires additional power. Auto focus works on all modes.
@@shzammpatapon9865 I've had just as many issues with battery life on Sony cameras as on Canon cameras. And in most cases, Sony cameras don't let you use V-mount batteries via USB-C, which the R5C does. I'd say it is much more flexible in terms of power options than Sony A series cameras.
No.. you don't get 45 on a single battery. You get that on 2 original batteries.. I'm using it with the grip and sometimes only get 39 minutes from fully charged batteries to empty. But, with an external Anker Powerbank you get 5 hours+ non-stop recording up to 8K 60. You can hot-swap a powerbank and keep recording until you grow gray hair. Also, 4K60 is not losing autofocus functionality and it's still 'using' the 8K readout from the sensor.
@@pr1sm55 You must be using the Old LP batteries. Are you using the LP-E6NH batteries? On average I get about 40-45 minutes in 4k, while 8k I get under 30 minutes. Also I never said you lose autofocus in 4k60.
For any true cinema camera that doesn't have the amazing beefy batteries that the C70 has, you're gonna be using V-mount or Gold mount anyways. I've paired the R5C with the FX Lion Nano One which is an awesome, tiny, and affordable 50 wh V-mount + USB-C battery. Grab it for around $160 on Amazon, attach it to the R5C with a long USB-C cable, and you can literally put it in your pocket and get at least 1.5 hours on full charge, continuous shooting. The only difficulty is not getting the cable stuck on things while run and gun shooting, but that is totally manageable. Even better, just mount the camera and battery on a rail system and you're good to go!
maybe a battery grip made with different type of batteries could be an elegant solution?
This camera is so great but not pivoting to another battery makes it useless. I have bought this camera three times now, each time thinking I will rig it out minimally and it will be fine but it's not and every rigging option turns this into something larger than the c70 with horrible ergonomics and wires all over the place. Slapping a fan on the r5 so it won't overheat in 4k 120 fps or 8k raw is not a design solution, canon should have made a grip and I don't care how funky that allowed the use of bp batteries because you can't even set up your menu with a full OEM lp6nh without %75 of your battery evaporating. Canon tested this and still basically released a sports car with 1/2 gallon gas tank. I literally watching this video right now before I sell my third r5c to see if anyone had figured out how to power this camera without turning it into a giant clunky piece of garbage.
I guess I'd rather be stuck with sdxc card data bottleneck that comes with c70 than have to have 19 little batteries and 3 stupid rigs for this thing
Have you ever tried the all recording modes you were talking about? I am asking because my EOS R5C (and 2 other R5C in my company) records using Canon RF lenses with no problem at all, - 5.9K 50p,60p and 2.9K up to 120p with full lens functions, AF etc. The manual I got for this camera also says that the only mode which needs external power is 8K 60P which corresponds to what is in my and my company cameras.... So there is one of the two: either you did not even checked what this camera can do, or my cameras are broken in some way... if the former is the case, sorry , but it means your video is a bunch of misinformation if the latter I am happy first time ever to have broken cameras... Just to clarify: I use 15-35 and 24-70 RF lenses.
I guess he's joking (?) or it is clickbait. In the pro world we use a v-mount battery or a usb-c power bank... one unit for camera and monitor.
I'm having a issue... I'm getting insanely tack sharp images with a 5D Mark II + EF 70-200mm F2.8 III but when I use it with Canon's EF-RF adapter on the R5 C images are never tack sharp. Almost soft. Any idea why that is?
Each to their own, but I don’t understand the hate. Especially from a company renting out camera solutions? A nano one gets me 4hr 35m continuous recording powering jus the camera. Powering a Shinobi and camera together it gets 2hr 54m. And it charges in under 2hrs with a 65w gallium nitrate USBC charger that super small I just throw in a bag. Watching videos like this had me worried going into the R5C but it’s really not an issue.
Completely agree with you on this, I love the Nano One. I'm not getting quite that much battery life out of it though, wow! What mode were you shooting in to get 4.5 hrs continuous recording??
@@DynamicPhil84 1080p 25p. I find its generally frame rate that uses more power not resolution. 8K uses least power of all as it not doing any compression just dumping sensor data to the card. But 50p in any mode and the battery gets hammered.
@@LatexFashionTV Interesting... I would have thought that shooting RAW would consume the most battery, but you have a point that the camera is just dumping the RAW data without having to convert to another format. I'd be very curious to see how much runtime you get on the Nano shooting 8K 24/25p in RAW LT continuous, along with 8K 50/60p RAW.
@@DynamicPhil84 when I get time I’ll do the test but I’d suspect the same run time or longer. The higher data speeds might offset the power savings with compression. It’s also the reason it can’t do 8K 60 MP4. There’s no power budget left for compression at that frame rate. There’s an hour long interview with a canon engineer elsewhere on RUclips that’s really interesting where he explains it all. He didn’t rule out it 8K 60 being an option in future when it’s more optimised. But he didn’t promise it either lol
Yep. The Nano One can provide the 3A at 9V mode that the R5C requires, and the Jupio and TetherTools DTAP->USB-C converters can do so with older cine batteres.
The R5C's maximum input is 27W (limited by the aforementioned 9V/3A PD mode) so in theory it could run down a Nano One in a bit under 2 hours. I buy that it would go twice that long in a forgiving mode like 1080p25.
Wow... so there's really no dummy battery that can be powered off of a v-mount battery?
Jupio and TetherTools make adapters that can fully power the R5C via USB-C from a V-Mount's DTAP port. See my comment on this video.
Also as others have pointed out some newer V-Mount batteries like the Nano One have native USB-C PD outputs suitable for driving the R5C, but that's more of an investment than just getting an adapter for your existing batteries.
There's no option for LP-E6 dummy battery to D-tap cable out there which could power this or any canon SLR all day?
I am testing that right now and the camera shuts down and freezes after a couple minutes
The LP-E6 connector can't source that much current. That battery was never designed to source 27W, which is what the R5C can suck down via USB-C.
It seems like Canon could easily engineer a battery "grip" that accommodates the batteries used by their cinema cameras. A bit bulky, yes, but not as much as an external USB C power bank. The R5 C would essentially look like a C70 with this battery attachment connected.
Honestly if you've got a video camera that's sucking down 27W (the R5C's limit), then you might be better off powering it from an outboard battery anyway. I've rented the C70, and it can be a tiring body to handhold with the larger batteries.
My big gripe with the R5C is that you're forced to power it via a non-locking USB-C connector. Lots of possibilities for accidental mayhem there.
@@patrickchase5614 just keep an fully charged LP battery in it and have a usb-c magnetic clip on to power it via a powerbank. it might pop off every now and again, but it's not going to immediately turn off for some time as the LP battery will be fully charged.
Great Video, Thanks for sharing
Try Alvin's cables dummy battery and a neewer 99wh v mount battery d-tap or USB c power should help. Also true cinema camera users utilize manual focusing techniques.
Lens no workie!! One of THE best comments on any RUclips video ever!! Also Cinema RAW Development no workie on a Mac M1 chip or my 4 year old Mac laptop. So far haven't been able to find a Canon rep who cares about addressing that problem. I want to love my R5C and I do love the 100-500 lens but so far no love yet and going back to my RED Epic more than I thought I would.
Fxlion v-mount battery to usb-c….. problem solved
Or an older DTAP/VTAP battery with a DTAP->USB PD converter if you don't care to replace all of your batteries.
There are quite a lot of reasonable power solutions for the R5 C.
I am quite disappointed in Lens Pro To Go for not packaging reasonable solutions and renting them out as a package.
If you are going to complain then complain to Canon.
I do not see how this video is helpful at all to Lens Pro To Go customers.
We rely on you to come up with these solutions for us,
Seriously, I don’t know how the company permitted this video.
The power issues, plus the micro HDMI, are the reason I ultimately abandoned Canon after being a customer since 1973. I went all-in with another brand and lens system.
BTW - the still camera 1/4-20 tripod connection stinks as well.
Good video BUT…… everyone is talking about 8k 60. Who shoots 8k? My MacBook doesn’t like 8k unless proxies are used. No one owns an 8k tv. I think it’s great because to down sampling to 4k makes stunning images.
But show me a persons who needs and uses 8k 60.
the final nail. I'm just getting another C70.
Stopped watching at the racist lens does not work section.
Mc Donald has a job for you👍
Well I was going to purchase this. But not now. Canon goofed big time.