Love videos like this - it's a part of the game that isn't frequently covered by RUclipsrs, but is really really important info. Would love to see more videos like this every season and when significant patches come along.
i can guarantee a lot of ppl will replay this video during bgs/arenas. very great video, best wow creator out here. keep it updated please, youre the first one to release something like this. ensure u capitalize on this trend! lol
One of the most important topics to create a video on. It’s extremely useful to players of all experience and it’s one that is hard to find up to date information on. Well done! 👍🏻
Hey is there any chance you could make a Purge / offensive dispel guide? It’s really hard to know what buffs are high priority to dispel without having extensive knowledge of all the classes. As someone who came back to the game I’m very in the dark on this.
Supz great video. Super helpful. Could you also do a quick video on how to beat each class? Even if it's super brief and just goes over their big CDs to avoid and how you approach them
So does damage potential come into play at all? I feel like letting an arcane mage freecast or an mm hunter go nuts seems like a bad idea, even if there is an easier target to lill
Literally, if you just created content like this and for example “how to support a warlock in soloq” you would be the biggest wow pvp youtuber!!!! very educational and good video
Yo man loving the videos, I'd like to see a video on how pick an alt. I've always tried to play other classes, but sometimes I'm feeling discouraged when im not seeing the results i want. I main survival hunter been playing it since it got reworked back in legion, but I'd like to play something else when I'm burnt out from playing my main.
Hey supa, I love and learn from your videos so much! I was wondering if you could go into more detail in moments like 10:15 where you discuss how rogues counter evokers. I’m a rogue main and would love to hear your advice and tidbits of information
Thanks its not a pvp is bad video, this helps a lot, ty, but tbh as a arms Warrior people tend to ignore me since I charge, leap and intervine, evokers are Impossible for me to kill along side ferals.
I’m playing Shadow Priest and Evokers are the most annoying thing to fight next to Fury Warrior.. Dev Evoker just does too much damage for how mobile it is.
Honest feedback, I like the video. One example of a change that i think would be really helpful is like when you talk about DK not being strong against melee, or strong against healers… say why. You’re trying to give context but not actually saying why some characters are better into others.
This was very helpful. Out of curiosity, why is outlaw considered so tanky? I mean, they get hook and 5% stam, besides that they are the same as assassination? Unless I am missing something.
Appreciate 2s is probably very different but we play Resto Shaman / Unholy DK - whenever we focus the warlock they feel invincible (particularly Destruction). Is this simply a 2s issue or something we are doing wrong?
I'm not sure about the arcanes placements, it has to cast a lot and has only 1 school so if the other target is also hard ro kill and you play something that can catch up to arcane i think its not so bad of a choice
As an MM hunter if its convenient to hit an arcane mage im gong to blast him the amount of arcanes that push to far and I 1 shot is to high to stop now
Why exactly is frost mage in middle tier with arcane at bottom tier? Double ice block ALONE makes frost 10x harder to kill over arcane. Slap on the endless roots and unkickable dps rotation and uhhh yeah... maybe swap those on the tier list? Edit: after re-reading i just want to say I'm genuinely asking a question here I'm not flaming the tier list! I agree with just about all of it but this part confused me. i dont fight very many arcane mages so i could be missing something.
Liked for putting my main, ww, and the squishiest melee in the entire game right now with dogshit defensives into "avoid attacking" lmao also it makes no sense to me that you'd put arcane into "never attack" despite the fact they have 1 school of magic so if a melee interrupts literally anything 98% of their spells are disabled whereas frost which is completely unreachable by almost every single class in the game and is the hardest to kill caster in the entire game with double ice block and the rest of the mage kit(and double barrier).. and that's somehow in "decent"
Also the evoker doesnt make as much sense? For dev and aug it was almost never, yet for pres its almost always. They have almost identical defensives and range. Unless i missed something.
to use their mastery they need higher health than the target they are healing. keeping pressure on them will reduce the heals they are able to produce so having classes that have rot damage, keeping pressure on the prevoker can mitigate their heals while rotting the dps down.
@Koberg00 ah good point. Yeah I do find it a bit more difficult when all three of us are getting rotted. Very rarely do I ever actually die as a pres, but I hate playing catch up when my mastery isn't as effective.
@@Zamiroh Right now stat split is versa mastery and focusing pres deactivated the mastery + the rings embellishments so it is very powerful and rogues specifically with triple sap against shroud are a nightmare to face as a pres
Yeah, I mainly play in solo shuffle, and I struggle more when I have rogues in the lobby (at least when facing disc which is a good amount of the time!)
wow so leave mages basically to sit back and cc and blast you up because frankly you cant even close the gap on them. MAGES need a freaking nerf, frost more so, 2 blocks and all, but need to do something about their mobility, and massive CC. makes Melee not even worth playing
This is one of the most educational videos you have ever put out, fantastic job.
Supa the best !!!
Love videos like this - it's a part of the game that isn't frequently covered by RUclipsrs, but is really really important info. Would love to see more videos like this every season and when significant patches come along.
i can guarantee a lot of ppl will replay this video during bgs/arenas. very great video, best wow creator out here. keep it updated please, youre the first one to release something like this. ensure u capitalize on this trend! lol
This is one of the most helpful pvp videos I've ever seen. Please do one for bg blitz.
This has fundamentally changed how I will approach games. How have I never seen or looked for a video like this? Bravo.
Like always, great job coming up with useful topics and being able to get the message out in an organized and efficient way
As a warlock… this checks out.
One of the most important topics to create a video on. It’s extremely useful to players of all experience and it’s one that is hard to find up to date information on. Well done! 👍🏻
Your YT vids are seriously underrated.. keep it up!
Hey is there any chance you could make a Purge / offensive dispel guide? It’s really hard to know what buffs are high priority to dispel without having extensive knowledge of all the classes.
As someone who came back to the game I’m very in the dark on this.
Zybak the great has entered the chat!
along this line, it would also be cool to get a guide of spell kicking priority!
This is actually very helpful! I play less and less classes each expansion, so this helps out my lack of class knowledge these days!
I don't think I've ever commented on a youtube video before but this deserves one. Super helpful video!
Me: “why is WW so far down?”
Supa: “WW are really slippery”
My zug zug brain: “wait. You mean I can run from fights if I’m in danger??”
finally! Arms in S-Tier 👀
umm no look at the title PVP Best Targets to Attack - Tier List not the best classes read the title next time
Missed his joke
This is the type of video that will defiantly help people get out of Elo Hell and to push rank. Well DONE!
Supz great video. Super helpful.
Could you also do a quick video on how to beat each class? Even if it's super brief and just goes over their big CDs to avoid and how you approach them
Yes. Need.
push
Amazing video, fresh, a lot of help for people who didnt figure it which is the easiest to kill after many expansions
Awesome video! Being mostly new to pvp since WotLK this was very important to know.
Drop that balance guide already
Your best vid so far, Supa. Thanks for this one!
Great video. Love the content in general but this particular video is an absolute gem.
Cries in Boomkin bc I live every day.
Changed to Feral for world pvp and the survivability difference is WILD
Before I even watch it's enhance shaman.
bruh...my boomkin bruddah what is with the heat?!
So does damage potential come into play at all? I feel like letting an arcane mage freecast or an mm hunter go nuts seems like a bad idea, even if there is an easier target to lill
Good list. Might be easier to split into things to attack if you're range and things to attack if you're malee
Literally, if you just created content like this and for example “how to support a warlock in soloq” you would be the biggest wow pvp youtuber!!!! very educational and good video
thank you for this video interesting analyzing ! as always keep up the good work
Love this kind of content. Informative and I get to stare at a tier list
this is great supa, thanks for sharing the video - Great information and explanations - this will help out alot in my solos
great job you got best channel for wow pvp updates/guides
Can we get a battleground blitz target priority? I’m never sure as a windwalker what my target should be. You would think healers but they never die.
Its still healers, when they pop a def cd, just swap
Heeeeeealers
Monks are good against healers and have plenty micro CC to make their time bad.
I like it when a dps trys to solo the healer in solo shuffle
Dude. What have you done! Now they gonna kill me even more
This is one of your best ever videos. Very informative
Yo man loving the videos, I'd like to see a video on how pick an alt. I've always tried to play other classes, but sometimes I'm feeling discouraged when im not seeing the results i want. I main survival hunter been playing it since it got reworked back in legion, but I'd like to play something else when I'm burnt out from playing my main.
Hey supa, I love and learn from your videos so much! I was wondering if you could go into more detail in moments like 10:15 where you discuss how rogues counter evokers. I’m a rogue main and would love to hear your advice and tidbits of information
I think rogues can just spam sap the cc immunity evoker and open on them for free maybe that’s my guess
Thanks its not a pvp is bad video, this helps a lot, ty, but tbh as a arms Warrior people tend to ignore me since I charge, leap and intervine, evokers are Impossible for me to kill along side ferals.
I’m playing Shadow Priest and Evokers are the most annoying thing to fight next to Fury Warrior.. Dev Evoker just does too much damage for how mobile it is.
@@heroman1322 god forbid shadow be like this, or give Warrior more sustain.
Thanks for all the content. It's very helpful.
Can you make a double dps 2v2 tier list please 🙏
I needed this, thanks!
Amazing video lad... Love this!!
supatease been teasing us alot with the good videos latley
I didn't know I need this, but it is awesome.
Thank you for doing this Supa
Great video supa, well done!
More content like this Supa - help us gain rating
Incredibly helpful post.
great video supatease, most people dont even cover this
some one Likes Exel lists
this Guy loves tierlists
Very useful guide ty, why does fury not care which wizard is closer?
Honest feedback, I like the video. One example of a change that i think would be really helpful is like when you talk about DK not being strong against melee, or strong against healers… say why.
You’re trying to give context but not actually saying why some characters are better into others.
You should do like an educational pvp fundamentals series
Damn, so RMP with Arcane/Sub is a triple “never” comp 😭😂
Arcane dies faster than fire and frost if u a ranger
screenshotted this tnx alot mate, good one
bro... thank you for this.
Players love to complain about ret/war being oppressive…and yet both are in the “almost always target” category. I find that interesting.
yea because trade offs. If they were a bad target, they probably wouldn't be as oppressive
This is top tier content
This was very helpful. Out of curiosity, why is outlaw considered so tanky? I mean, they get hook and 5% stam, besides that they are the same as assassination? Unless I am missing something.
he kinda just makes stuff up sometimes honestly. for example, he calls MM hunters unkillable, which is definitely untrue. they drop pretty fast.
as a current Warlock main....Y U HAVE TO DO ME LIKE DIS!!!?!?
Only way enhance is high on a pvp list
Appreciate 2s is probably very different but we play Resto Shaman / Unholy DK - whenever we focus the warlock they feel invincible (particularly Destruction). Is this simply a 2s issue or something we are doing wrong?
this is the kinda video i like!
Great video!
Just anything and everything lists at this point lol😂. Actually tho this one's not bad
*screams in warlock*
... Wait everyone knows that.
I'm not sure about the arcanes placements, it has to cast a lot and has only 1 school so if the other target is also hard ro kill and you play something that can catch up to arcane i think its not so bad of a choice
So basically. If you see a walock or paladin, kill it?
Really good vid 👍
Yo thanks for this one supa
Blizz: we have greatly improved enhancement shaman. Everyone with pvp advice: Yeah so basically always crap on the enhance shaman lol.
Great video man.
Warlocks after seeing this video: 😧 (I’m a warlock main)
wait, hold the horses. If i go arcane i wont be attacked after this video? *goes to respecc arcane*
As an MM hunter if its convenient to hit an arcane mage im gong to blast him the amount of arcanes that push to far and I 1 shot is to high to stop now
Great video mate
Wish I had a map of who to attack based on comp
I think bm hunter with half cd freedom, all instants and with all the hunter utility plus dark ranger is a bit harder to kill than it is on the list
Best vid yet
Geat and very useful video
How are feral tankier in tww vs df? They got a frenzied nerf and minor things in their hero tree. They still die fast if they dont run.
NICE VIDEO SUPA
Thank you
Amazing video
Does the same list work for 2s?
'Almost Always' players hate your guts for this video!
:P
This tier list is “S” tier
As a warlock? And this is why I never solo queue... ^^
Why exactly is frost mage in middle tier with arcane at bottom tier? Double ice block ALONE makes frost 10x harder to kill over arcane. Slap on the endless roots and unkickable dps rotation and uhhh yeah... maybe swap those on the tier list?
Edit: after re-reading i just want to say I'm genuinely asking a question here I'm not flaming the tier list! I agree with just about all of it but this part confused me. i dont fight very many arcane mages so i could be missing something.
Historically arcane is better at kiting than frost and very hard to kill.
S-tier video!
Liked for putting my main, ww, and the squishiest melee in the entire game right now with dogshit defensives into "avoid attacking" lmao
also it makes no sense to me that you'd put arcane into "never attack" despite the fact they have 1 school of magic so if a melee interrupts literally anything 98% of their spells are disabled whereas frost which is completely unreachable by almost every single class in the game and is the hardest to kill caster in the entire game with double ice block and the rest of the mage kit(and double barrier).. and that's somehow in "decent"
Also the evoker doesnt make as much sense? For dev and aug it was almost never, yet for pres its almost always. They have almost identical defensives and range. Unless i missed something.
to use their mastery they need higher health than the target they are healing. keeping pressure on them will reduce the heals they are able to produce so having classes that have rot damage, keeping pressure on the prevoker can mitigate their heals while rotting the dps down.
@Koberg00 ah good point. Yeah I do find it a bit more difficult when all three of us are getting rotted. Very rarely do I ever actually die as a pres, but I hate playing catch up when my mastery isn't as effective.
@@Zamiroh Right now stat split is versa mastery and focusing pres deactivated the mastery + the rings embellishments so it is very powerful and rogues specifically with triple sap against shroud are a nightmare to face as a pres
Yeah, I mainly play in solo shuffle, and I struggle more when I have rogues in the lobby (at least when facing disc which is a good amount of the time!)
Why target arms warrior?
Going to have this up while I do solo shuffle.
Love it
I love seeing a rogue on me on my dev. Just don't panic and roll cds and will be fine.
BIG VIDEO
i love u supa
Feral isn't #1??? Interesting
wow so leave mages basically to sit back and cc and blast you up because frankly you cant even close the gap on them. MAGES need a freaking nerf, frost more so, 2 blocks and all, but need to do something about their mobility, and massive CC. makes Melee not even worth playing