When I lived in Los Angeles Lemmy lived above the Rainbow bar and grill on Sunset Blvd you could always find him sitting at the bar and he was always approachable and a very nice guy
ACTUALLY Lemmy said that he pretty much gave up and went out on the town (leaving Sid with a pile of "speed") and when he came back home, Sid could "play" ...
He actually was just the mascot. Him doing the pogo at every show till they let him join.....after d*cking over the great bassist plus songwriter Glen Matlock. I was stupid for liking Sid as a Kid, Glen is the true star as well as the only bassist The Sex Pistols ever had! Hail Glen Matlock!
John Lydon talks about Sid as his childhood friend who listened to dub records with him and was named after the Lydon family's pet hamster. While Lydon is a wanker and a blowhard (albeit a smart one), the section of _The Filth and the Fury_ where he breaks down and essentially blames himself for bringing Sid into the band and putting him into the situation that resulted in his death seems very genuine.
In my opinion, the Pistols firing a guy who could actually play bass for a guy who couldn't play a note but looked prettier was the most unpunk thing ever.
He was a drummer for Suixie and the Banshees and played saxophone for The Flowers of Romance but did not know how to play bass before he joined the Pistols. From what I have read, he had every intention of learning to play. However, he met Nancy Spungen who got him hooked on heroin and other drugs, and learning to play bass dropped to the wayside.
There are many stories of how he became addicted, one of which addresses his own mother offering it to him. But I don't like this idea that "the evil woman influenced this poor boy to like this". I mean, the guy was a grown man, but anyway rest in peace Sid and Nancy
@@oBabybbyuuuuyeah it’s kinda sad but it’s actually the truth. But people use this argument of the « evil woman » for almost every musicians (Kurt Cobain/Courtney Love, John Lennon/Yoko Ono..ect) Sometimes it’s not true at all and just sexist. Sometimes it’s kinda true but the woman is not the one to blame for everything. And sometimes the woman is a real b- But we can say the same thing for musician women and their boyfriends. But it’s true we don’t talk about it at all or not as much as women influence on musicians.
What’s nuts is, while he couldn’t play…he’s aaaallmost there. Like, for a lot of their stuff, a couple months of lessons and practice and he probably could’ve been at least half decent as far as punk is concerned
@@bloodguts6786stop spreading bs nonsense that you know NOTHING about, kid. He could've played if he'd had more time. He was thrown into the band with literally zero experience and wasn't in it very long when he died.
Glen Matlock was THE MAN and deserves loads of credit for his work in the Sex Pistols, and Sid couldn't hold a candle to him. If Sid hadn't gotten fucked on heroin or with Nancy, he might've actually been serviceable, but even then, his style was completely different Glen's. That being said, there's a live recording of the Pistols playing in Sweden in 1977 with Sid where they play most of their material, save for a few songs, and you can hear Sid playing bass. He kept the beat, played in-synch and was actually plugged in. That clip in this short was from the last Pistols show in SF, and he was pretty messed up by that point.
@@dailyreactive he learnt a few things from the guitarist as a framework, often literally the moment they hit the stage when the band had new songs, there was potential alas the drugs won.. RIP Sid.
i'm personally pretty mediocre but i can play a couple of hard songs, the thing is though that this guy plays like me after i've been playing the bass for 2 weeks. The skill level this guy is at is "hasn't played an instrument ever so i just picked up the bass and decided to fuck around and not bother learning"
This is why I always liked the Ramones better. They had 3 or 4 songs and just kept writing new words for them over and over, but they could play those songs damn well!!
If you think the ramones recycle the same 3 songs then you've likely never bothered listening past the first 4 records; tell me anything on too tough to die or subterranean jungle sounds like blitzkrieg bop
i listen to anthology 2 cd set all the time when riding my motorbike, fantastic. i wouldn't go as far as saying they recycled the same 3 songs, but the early (and best) stuff does have a reassuring similarity you know you're gonna love, and back in the day (77 or 78 i cant remember lol) i was lucky enough to see 'em live. GL
According to Johnny Rotten in his autobiography: When Sid joined the pistols, he was keen to learn how to play and learned the songs quickly. Obviously his addiction ruined his bass playing.
The fact that the example came from their Winterland concert where a lot of people say Sid’s bass abilities really shined through imma say nah chief lol
He did sound fairly competent in the winterland concert. He obviously had been practicing a little bit even though the bass parts he was playing were pretty simplistic.
@@bigol9223 exactly. do you think fans of a band like fugazi were going to their shows for the music? no, they were all there to swoon over certified smoke-show joe lally.
Nah, Lemmy tried to teach him, when he joined Pistols he told Lem, Lemmy Said "but sid, you cant play Bass" and Sid just Said "i dont care im in Sex Pistols"
it’s ironic how punk rock is marketed as antiestablishment and anti-commercial yet the biggest punk rock band at that time hired a guy who couldn’t play bass simply because he had “the look” It seems like the least punk rock thing I can think of
I've been telling people something along these lines since the 90's but cognitive dissonance seems to be louder than the dissonance of Sid's "playing". At least we got John Lydon out of the deal and his commentary on life, world and everything in subsequent years after his music career. Interesting bloke, always gives you food for thought. Whether you bloody like it or not 😂
I don’t think it’s ironic. Legit, anti-commercial bands aren’t going to have as wide of an appeal because they’re anti-commercial. The band that puts aesthetics over all else is of course going to get more attention from the mainstream.
@@spraynard9529 I get that but the irony lies in the fact that the punk bands are thought of as legit, anti commercial bands and Sex Pistols tried to have that image as well
Their entire band was manufactured from the get go by Malcom McClaren to sell more of his girlfriend's punk clothing. It worked. Punks have a more rigid dress code than most militaries. Bunch of rugged individualists. Not.
No it isnt.Not givig a shit about what you are putting out amd just focusing on the looks is the least punk thing ever.Look at clash to me they are a prike exsapel of a punk band.
Refreshing to see the bass community is realistic. In the drum community everyone likes to defend Meg White (from The White Stripes) because it makes them feel special and righteous to come to the rescue of a genuinely bad drummer. Gives off the same energy as the "excuse me, is he bothering you?" guy from the bar.
Yeah, Freddie called him “Simon Ferocious” when Sid came at him in the studio where both Queen and The Sex Pistols were having recording sessions, then Freddie literally shoved him out. Apparently Sid was a bit floored that Freddie was both quite strong AND could confidently stand up for himself. (Freddie had been on the Boxing team at his boarding school in India and wasn’t afraid of Sid at all)
I spent some time around this type in the late '70s, CBGB's, etc. Punk was not about actually being able to play. Their motto was "They suck, you suck, we suck!!! Grrrrr!!!"
weirldy enough Lemmy was a teacher of sid’s when it came to bass but Lemmy said he never really stuck to it and tried banking on attitude and looks for the band, not those exact words but the message is the same source is Lemmy’s autobiography white line fever
he is the lamest, least talented, corniest industry plant of all time so yea. i’ve literally met deaf people with better taste in music…they tend to really appreciate good bass playing above all actually😂
I get why they brought Sid in because he was Lydon's friend but London probably has more bass players per square inch than anywhere else on the planet. Along with Malcolm Maclaren's stupidity it wasnt going to last long lol
@@rachelarNot only that - with drummers, bassists are the conducting force of a music ensemble. They keep time and groove it to keep people hearing the music, and that's no easy task at all.
Bass is the easiest to play, especially the easy bass lines he had using a pick. Yeah there are bass players who take it next level, Sid couldn't keep it together on level one. For anybody ready to jump all over me for saying this, I've been playing bass since '86 & tried everhthing else out.
To be fair, I’ve heard worse attempts at playing bass in cover bands down the pub. Watched the full clip, he can play bass, to some extent. If he couldn’t, they wouldn’t have plugged his bass into an amp!
Steve Jones was the musical director of the Sex Pistols. He played guitar and bass on the records. Paul Cook was a good drummer, and with the irrepressible John Lydon, they made one of the great in your face rock ‘n’ roll records of the 70s.
@@EvieNestait’s widely believed that he murdered Nancy spungen with a knife but he died of an overdose before it went to trial, but he did kill cats, we know he was into that
Everyone knows Sid couldn't play lol. Used to be even Sex Pistols fans knew he couldn't, and used that as validation to have no-playing bass players in their own punk bands.
I remember reading somewhere that the other members said he was "almost able to play" by the time he died. Near the end, he would stay up all night practicing, probably on some other drug to keep him focused. So he had the drive and the internal motivation, he was just too focused on junk. If he would have gotten off heroin, he probably could have ended up a halfway decent bassist.
Yes, he definitely came in because he looked the part, but people have this completely incorrect idea that he was just some random guy plucked of the street. He'd been a good friend of Lydon for years, and was basically part of the band's inner circle since the start. I think this video also shows he was a better bass players than a lot of the stories suggest, even if not exactly fantastic.
Love the story of Queen and the sex pistols sharing a studio in 77. "Vicious was an idiot" acording to Roger taylor. Freddie mercury also had a go at him calling him "mr verocious" and pushed him away. 😂
Um, no it doesn't. Steve Jones is a good guitarist. Paul Cook is a good drummer. Glen Matlock is a good bassist. The musicianship on Never Mind The Bollocks is as good as or better than any other punk band. Replacing Glen Matlock with Sid was the beginning of the end for the Pistols.
@@stratocasterguy none of them were good with their instruments. Maybe in Punk, but they all sucked, really hard. They are all known for being shit, even in punk terms.
"heckins" huh? Were you born between 1981 and 1996? Also, youre wrong and are actually shitting on punk. For the original punks its not about being shitty at an instrument, its about not being accomplished. Fah-q.
I saw them live back in the day, and Sid was indeed playing his bass. Of course Pistols songs were not about technical chops, they were about attitude, so it doesn't really matter.
Its well known that Chris Spedding played both bass and guitar on Never Mind The Bollocks album, as quoted by Jonathan Rotten "ever had the feeling youve been cheated".
Watch the sex pistols rehearsal for their last concert, it's on youtube, he knew the licks but couldn't always play because he was so fucked up all the time. There was another musician, Chris Speding, who was running the sound board and also had a bass on his lap, many times Chris would play and they would turn Sid's bass off. This was on the U.S. tour. I know Lemmy taught Sid the licks and even Glen showed Sid the bass lines as he co/wrote the music
Well, there's a lot of talented and even some virtuosos in punk rock bass players. The intent of punk rock is to be intense and sincere in the way of playing, not to be simple.
I remembered in a video documentary that Sid tried and practiced as much as possible. But this what they got from him. He maybe not the best bass player, but because of his charisma every rock fan tried to copy his looks and style.
Controversial opinion, but I don’t get why people love Sid vicious so much. Dude was an arrogant, rude, drug addict who dragged his girlfriend with him and he couldn’t even play.
You know it’s funny the Sex Pistols wanted people to hate them and look what your doing your hating on them so in a way your promoting them and making them happy😂
@@Punkhead1331 I actually enjoy the sex pistols. I just think it's funny that people take them seriously since their punk image was manufactured by their manager McLaren. Their corporate and marketing roots put them at odds with the things you would typically define as "punk". They were actually a boy band draped in punk imagery.
Lemmy said he once tried to teach Sid how to play, but gave up and said that Vicious was hopeless
😂🤘🏼💥 ahaha!yeah! He did🔥
Fucking love Lemmy for this😂
When I lived in Los Angeles Lemmy lived above the Rainbow bar and grill on Sunset Blvd you could always find him sitting at the bar and he was always approachable and a very nice guy
ACTUALLY Lemmy said that he pretty much gave up and went out on the town (leaving Sid with a pile of "speed") and when he came back home, Sid could "play" ...
I heard Sid said to Lemmy “ I can’t play “ and Lemmy said “ I know “
Dude was literally just the band mascot.
Out of all the comments I believe yours to be the most accurate.
He actually was just the mascot. Him doing the pogo at every show till they let him join.....after d*cking over the great bassist plus songwriter Glen Matlock. I was stupid for liking Sid as a Kid, Glen is the true star as well as the only bassist The Sex Pistols ever had! Hail Glen Matlock!
John Lydon talks about Sid as his childhood friend who listened to dub records with him and was named after the Lydon family's pet hamster. While Lydon is a wanker and a blowhard (albeit a smart one), the section of _The Filth and the Fury_ where he breaks down and essentially blames himself for bringing Sid into the band and putting him into the situation that resulted in his death seems very genuine.
youre literally some dude on the internet.
Sid was a really good punk singer, I wish I could have seen more of what he was capable of when using his voice
Sid Vicious is arguably the very first industry plant.
Absolutely
the monkees were the first industry plant
The early '60s Teen Idols were before Sid and The Monkees
In my opinion, the Pistols firing a guy who could actually play bass for a guy who couldn't play a note but looked prettier was the most unpunk thing ever.
Well they were literally an industry plant so it makes sense
That's Malcolm McLaren for you 😂
Actually that seems pretty punk for some reason. Didn't care about being so posh
@@thaterasound LoL Simple minds are easily amused. You clearly have no idea about Malcolm McLaren & Vivienne Westwood.
@@thaterasound he was literally added to sell you clothing
He was trying to combine Jazz and Punk. Its called Junk.
Incredible, I'm gonna steal this joke thank you
@@Hulavuta
He stole it from Robots and I'm ashamed to get the reference
it's a simple enough joke that probably a lot of people have thought of it. that's why I felt no shame stealing haha
Good one!
There were some chemicals involved in the mix as well
He could allegedly play Blitzkrieg Bop. Literally, just blitzkrieg bop.
Yeah the footage of their final show starts with him playing it. He does it wrong, but the playing itself isn't... the worst I guess lol
@@WadeMitchell813 he didn’t play it wrong he started out with blitzkrieg bop then went into the song loudmouth, they both have similar riffs
Lol its only 4 notes, I sure hope he can play bop
hunter energy
@@colecarter8570 bro loudmouth is nothing like blitzkrieg bop
At least he took a stab at it.
Oooh! I see what you did there 😂
OW! Nice one!
Boooooo
Nice😅
Brooooo
I love Sid he deserved better he was so misunderstood his mother treated him like shit and he didn’t know how to cope poor thing Rest In Peace😢❤️
The answer is: NO
To be fair, it’s kinda hard to play bass while jumping
@@monsterenergymayonaise2222nah
@@monsterenergymayonaise2222not really lol
@@monsterenergymayonaise2222 tell that to Mike durnt, even 30 years ago lol
@@monsterenergymayonaise2222no
LAMB OF GOD BASS TONE
YES
The question Is how can you hear the bass tone in Lamb of God songs
@@nexttime4532I love lamb of god, and John Campbell is actually really good. But, the bass only serves to keep the guitars from sounding razor thin.
@@jseaux that's exaclty what i meant 👌
I got the producer edition for wrath and Sacrament so that I could actually mix it the way I like.
He was a drummer for Suixie and the Banshees and played saxophone for The Flowers of Romance but did not know how to play bass before he joined the Pistols. From what I have read, he had every intention of learning to play. However, he met Nancy Spungen who got him hooked on heroin and other drugs, and learning to play bass dropped to the wayside.
There are many stories of how he became addicted, one of which addresses his own mother offering it to him. But I don't like this idea that "the evil woman influenced this poor boy to like this". I mean, the guy was a grown man, but anyway rest in peace Sid and Nancy
@@oBabybbyuuuuyeah it’s kinda sad but it’s actually the truth. But people use this argument of the « evil woman » for almost every musicians (Kurt Cobain/Courtney Love, John Lennon/Yoko Ono..ect) Sometimes it’s not true at all and just sexist. Sometimes it’s kinda true but the woman is not the one to blame for everything. And sometimes the woman is a real b- But we can say the same thing for musician women and their boyfriends. But it’s true we don’t talk about it at all or not as much as women influence on musicians.
Steve Jones deserves respect for coming up with that 'one bassline fits all' baseline he bought in for Sid.
What’s nuts is, while he couldn’t play…he’s aaaallmost there. Like, for a lot of their stuff, a couple months of lessons and practice and he probably could’ve been at least half decent as far as punk is concerned
Lemmy once said that he had tried to teach Sid the basics and it was impossible..
And then he died of an overdose 20 minutes later
@@robertmills6497 that's called a made up story...
If it wasn't for the crap he was pumping into his veins he could've been an effective bass player.
@@bloodguts6786stop spreading bs nonsense that you know NOTHING about, kid.
He could've played if he'd had more time. He was thrown into the band with literally zero experience and wasn't in it very long when he died.
Honestly that was better than I expected, based on what I’ve heard about him.
Yeah one out of two lines aint bad😂 he looked great rhough bowie fan early shot of him with bowie t shirt n haircut
BASED on what you've heard. I like the pun.
Yeah, better and it’s punk, so, I think it was passable for a live punk show and being f’ed up on who knows what
Yeah, I expected him to to just hammer one note or an open string.
Yeah and atleast he was playing live which Nikki six and lots of other bands are just pretending
He did it....his way
Glen Matlock was THE MAN and deserves loads of credit for his work in the Sex Pistols, and Sid couldn't hold a candle to him. If Sid hadn't gotten fucked on heroin or with Nancy, he might've actually been serviceable, but even then, his style was completely different Glen's. That being said, there's a live recording of the Pistols playing in Sweden in 1977 with Sid where they play most of their material, save for a few songs, and you can hear Sid playing bass. He kept the beat, played in-synch and was actually plugged in. That clip in this short was from the last Pistols show in SF, and he was pretty messed up by that point.
Lemmy in his book said he tried to teach him but to no avail haha
Lemmy was cruising on Speed whilst Sid was gouching-out on Tranqs, there’s deffo a disconnect there 😂
@@VHS_Broadcastingstill, if lemmy cant teach you to play a simple 2 note bass line, you are just garbage.
@@brandocalrissian3294 dude, if you’re high on Valium’s, you ain’t even tying your own shoe laces…
That's true, Sid could have learnt to play had he not been completely strung up all the time.@@VHS_Broadcasting
@@dailyreactive he learnt a few things from the guitarist as a framework, often literally the moment they hit the stage when the band had new songs, there was potential alas the drugs won.. RIP Sid.
I know i'm a TERRIBLE bass player, but my god Sid was something else.
something else
Sure fine looking man, he’s something else
Same here lol
Hard to imagine anyone being worse than Flea
i'm personally pretty mediocre but i can play a couple of hard songs, the thing is though that this guy plays like me after i've been playing the bass for 2 weeks. The skill level this guy is at is "hasn't played an instrument ever so i just picked up the bass and decided to fuck around and not bother learning"
Sid Vicious?
Ohhhhh, Simon Ferocious, you mean
So the engineer just unplugged his amp and let him mime playing
And that's the answer. The answer is no. 😂
hey! He kinda flubs the hammer-ons, but his rhythm is pretty decent!
This is why I always liked the Ramones better. They had 3 or 4 songs and just kept writing new words for them over and over, but they could play those songs damn well!!
The Ramones was my first concert when I was 14 years old. Good tunes and great times
If you think the ramones recycle the same 3 songs then you've likely never bothered listening past the first 4 records; tell me anything on too tough to die or subterranean jungle sounds like blitzkrieg bop
Mistaken on the Ramones recycling the same 3 songs
i listen to anthology 2 cd set all the time when riding my motorbike, fantastic. i wouldn't go as far as saying they recycled the same 3 songs, but the early (and best) stuff does have a reassuring similarity you know you're gonna love, and back in the day (77 or 78 i cant remember lol) i was lucky enough to see 'em live. GL
I prefer Buzzcocks over the two bands
As a punk rocker from the 80s we were usually so loaded we wouldn't have noticed
I was first wave and just as out of it, these RUclips kids just don't get it...
According to Johnny Rotten in his autobiography: When Sid joined the pistols, he was keen to learn how to play and learned the songs quickly.
Obviously his addiction ruined his bass playing.
The fact that the example came from their Winterland concert where a lot of people say Sid’s bass abilities really shined through imma say nah chief lol
😂
He did sound fairly competent in the winterland concert. He obviously had been practicing a little bit even though the bass parts he was playing were pretty simplistic.
Watch the winterland soundcheck..it'll prove he could play better than the credit he's actually given
Sure knew his way around a needle though
He always nailed that!
Even tho he didnt hit the strings perfectly in this videoclip, he had the correct tempo
Cus he was a drummer
The sex pistols were a boy band. Being judged based on their image is all they set out to do.
99% of punk is image
@@bigol9223 exactly. do you think fans of a band like fugazi were going to their shows for the music? no, they were all there to swoon over certified smoke-show joe lally.
Nah, Lemmy tried to teach him, when he joined Pistols he told Lem, Lemmy Said "but sid, you cant play Bass" and Sid just Said "i dont care im in Sex Pistols"
Lemmy is a metal god and sid is a guy who killed his girlfriend and od'd.
@@brandocalrissian3294 he was someone that needed help, not this life
@@brandocalrissian3294 Yet Sid is a punk icon...
@@MarkGelderlandthat tells you all you need to know about punk
it’s ironic how punk rock is marketed as antiestablishment and anti-commercial yet the biggest punk rock band at that time hired a guy who couldn’t play bass simply because he had “the look”
It seems like the least punk rock thing I can think of
And they were put together by a clothing store to showcase their clothes
I've been telling people something along these lines since the 90's but cognitive dissonance seems to be louder than the dissonance of Sid's "playing". At least we got John Lydon out of the deal and his commentary on life, world and everything in subsequent years after his music career. Interesting bloke, always gives you food for thought. Whether you bloody like it or not 😂
I don’t think it’s ironic. Legit, anti-commercial bands aren’t going to have as wide of an appeal because they’re anti-commercial.
The band that puts aesthetics over all else is of course going to get more attention from the mainstream.
@@spraynard9529 I get that but the irony lies in the fact that the punk bands are thought of as legit, anti commercial bands and Sex Pistols tried to have that image as well
Their entire band was manufactured from the get go by Malcom McClaren to sell more of his girlfriend's punk clothing. It worked. Punks have a more rigid dress code than most militaries. Bunch of rugged individualists. Not.
Way better than i expected
In a punk band: YES
thats what I thought haha I think it sounds good, like a Nirvana guitar solo.
They actually boasted that they can't play. That was Punk!
No it isnt.Not givig a shit about what you are putting out amd just focusing on the looks is the least punk thing ever.Look at clash to me they are a prike exsapel of a punk band.
@@yourdailydoseofcommonsense3988 retirement home calling
@@yourdailydoseofcommonsense3988
Well you must be the least punk person here considering how little consideration you put into your spelling
@@thecuteandwonderfulbrae7500i love how you said that even though you spelled everything correctly.
@@theduggler2058 I don't get what you're saying
Pls Alice In Chains or soundgarden bass tone
Refreshing to see the bass community is realistic. In the drum community everyone likes to defend Meg White (from The White Stripes) because it makes them feel special and righteous to come to the rescue of a genuinely bad drummer. Gives off the same energy as the "excuse me, is he bothering you?" guy from the bar.
💥MR. FEROCIOUS💥
[Freddie Mercury]
Yeah, Freddie called him “Simon Ferocious” when Sid came at him in the studio where both Queen and The Sex Pistols were having recording sessions, then Freddie literally shoved him out.
Apparently Sid was a bit floored that Freddie was both quite strong AND could confidently stand up for himself. (Freddie had been on the Boxing team at his boarding school in India and wasn’t afraid of Sid at all)
Well to be fair he always played on the highest amount of drugs posible
That is a completely fair argument.
And he was actually pretty close to the riff
maybe it sounded right to him tbh
So did Lemmy
Ozzy Osbourne, I don't have to say much else
He made a beginner of two minutes look like Mark King.
I spent some time around this type in the late '70s, CBGB's, etc.
Punk was not about actually being able to play.
Their motto was "They suck, you suck, we suck!!! Grrrrr!!!"
weirldy enough Lemmy was a teacher of sid’s when it came to bass but Lemmy said he never really stuck to it and tried banking on attitude and looks for the band, not those exact words but the message is the same
source is Lemmy’s autobiography white line fever
Sid didn’t start out on bass. Before the Sex Pistols, Sid first gig was as a _drummer_ for Siouxie and the Banshees!
Yeahbut let's face it, it's not like he has to play anything difficult. Anyone with a month or 2 instructions could play a sex pistols gig.
He also played saxophone for Flowers of romance
the question is how High and drunk he was xD
Yes
He was just handsome
Sounds like isolation by joy division
Somewhat similar riff for sure.
Exactly the same well spotted
That's what I thought
Dude you make amazing videos keep pushing
He plays okay. Rest in peace Sid!!
Rest in peace? He's was an untalented dope fiend who murdered his girlfriend lmao
it’s a shame you were blessed with ears
Really? Happy new years to you too
he is the lamest, least talented, corniest industry plant of all time so yea. i’ve literally met deaf people with better taste in music…they tend to really appreciate good bass playing above all actually😂
He plays ok? You gotta be kidding. He's horrible.
It's less about his ability to play and more about his sobriety while on stage xD
I get why they brought Sid in because he was Lydon's friend but London probably has more bass players per square inch than anywhere else on the planet. Along with Malcolm Maclaren's stupidity it wasnt going to last long lol
Imagine having the easiest job of all time and still managing to somehow f it up.
Hence why he is the most worthless guy ever.
Not so easy. Need strong fingers
@@rachelarNot only that - with drummers, bassists are the conducting force of a music ensemble. They keep time and groove it to keep people hearing the music, and that's no easy task at all.
Bass is harder than people realise
Bass is the easiest to play, especially the easy bass lines he had using a pick. Yeah there are bass players who take it next level, Sid couldn't keep it together on level one. For anybody ready to jump all over me for saying this, I've been playing bass since '86 & tried everhthing else out.
Sid's Bass playing truly viscous
Yes, truly thick and sticky.
@@AHoundOnAHonda HA, HA!! Touche!
To be fair, I’ve heard worse attempts at playing bass in cover bands down the pub.
Watched the full clip, he can play bass, to some extent. If he couldn’t, they wouldn’t have plugged his bass into an amp!
There would be times where they had to mute his bass though
They unplugged his amp plenty of times, he was too fried to notice.
@@chizoramaAbsolutely, most of the US tour.
Jason Newsted's AJFA bass tone
He did it lol
Look up Metallicas Lost Bass Tone
That sound was actually fire. Too bad they mixed it low as fuck.
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's a powermad Dane with a pair of wire cutters
Steve Jones was the musical director of the Sex Pistols. He played guitar and bass on the records. Paul Cook was a good drummer, and with the irrepressible John Lydon, they made one of the great in your face rock ‘n’ roll records of the 70s.
He sure could kill his girlfriend with a knife though
wait what
@@EvieNestait’s widely believed that he murdered Nancy spungen with a knife but he died of an overdose before it went to trial, but he did kill cats, we know he was into that
@@EvieNesta
Google is your friend
She wouldn’t shut up. Not his fault.
@@CrassusCaziuswhat the actual fuck
How are people saying he looks good when he looks like a used Barbie doll 😭🤣🤣
That was the right look!
😂😂😂
That's actually better than I thought.
Everyone knows Sid couldn't play lol. Used to be even Sex Pistols fans knew he couldn't, and used that as validation to have no-playing bass players in their own punk bands.
Sid's solo record rules.🔥.
Sid was good enough to play those songs.
Sid sounds legit to me.
I read somewhere that Sid actually tried to improve his bass playing before he died.
Which he supposedly tried to do by taking a shit ton of speed and playing along to Ramones all night or something like that?
@@blondepotatoboithat’ll do it
Anything would have been an improvement.
I remember reading somewhere that the other members said he was "almost able to play" by the time he died.
Near the end, he would stay up all night practicing, probably on some other drug to keep him focused.
So he had the drive and the internal motivation, he was just too focused on junk.
If he would have gotten off heroin, he probably could have ended up a halfway decent bassist.
@@pustulioyoHe was a bit of a subversion. Most of the musicians who got hooked on dope were actually _skilled_ at playing their instruments.
Day 83 of asking for Matt Freeman's behs tone. Never been a big Sid fan, and your video is a perfect example of why.
Just like Les Dawson playing the piano😂
Nobody thought that he would do that on purpose, Sid himself was proto Kurt Cobain
Today is my 80th day of asking for Sam Kiszka's bass tone from Greta Van Fleet
See John Paul Jones
@@chrislucarelli4395ahahah brilliant.
Simon gallup bass tone pls
Which one? I could mention five different and very distinctive ones. 😎
I also really love him.
Legend of punk, Lemmy was his guitar teacher, Jimi Hendrix old roadie was his guitar teacher, mental story but true.
In spite of Matlock being able to play, it was Steve Jones who laid down the bass on the recording of 'Never Mind The Bollocks'.
Almost
yeah I liked it
😂
Yes, he definitely came in because he looked the part, but people have this completely incorrect idea that he was just some random guy plucked of the street. He'd been a good friend of Lydon for years, and was basically part of the band's inner circle since the start. I think this video also shows he was a better bass players than a lot of the stories suggest, even if not exactly fantastic.
That bit was actually better than some of the crap I've had to deal with.
Day 100 of asking for sting bass tone
It’s called “improvisation”
No it's called being shit.
Sid sure knew how to use a knife though.
He plays it marginally better than me 😂
Couldn’t even play bass in one of the easiest genres of rock.
Easy, yes... but punk bass is notoriously tasty (depending on the player such as Freeman, Fat Mike, Dirnt, a host of adjacent Ska players, etc)
Dee Dee Ramone or Chuck Dukowski would tell you otherwise
Day 1 of trying to torture you! Meshuggah bass tone!!!
Love the story of Queen and the sex pistols sharing a studio in 77. "Vicious was an idiot" acording to Roger taylor. Freddie mercury also had a go at him calling him "mr verocious" and pushed him away. 😂
Sid was probably high in that concert
Not "probably", he was, and arguably at his worst. I think thats also when he still had "gimme a fix" carved into his chest
He could not play bass but he is the most iconic member of the band, tells you a lot about how good the others were. It was a meme band
Um, no it doesn't. Steve Jones is a good guitarist. Paul Cook is a good drummer. Glen Matlock is a good bassist. The musicianship on Never Mind The Bollocks is as good as or better than any other punk band. Replacing Glen Matlock with Sid was the beginning of the end for the Pistols.
@@stratocasterguy none of them were good with their instruments. Maybe in Punk, but they all sucked, really hard.
They are all known for being shit, even in punk terms.
For what Sex Pistols represented at the time … I’d say … yes. Yes, Sid Vicious could play the heckens out of the behs 🤠👍
"heckins" huh? Were you born between 1981 and 1996? Also, youre wrong and are actually shitting on punk. For the original punks its not about being shitty at an instrument, its about not being accomplished. Fah-q.
As a guitarist I love hearing BEHS
I saw them live back in the day, and Sid was indeed playing his bass. Of course Pistols songs were not about technical chops, they were about attitude, so it doesn't really matter.
It was a boy band. They literally met in the record execs office 🤣
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PRINCE BASS TONE
Its well known that Chris Spedding played both bass and guitar on Never Mind The Bollocks album, as quoted by Jonathan Rotten "ever had the feeling youve been cheated".
Watch the sex pistols rehearsal for their last concert, it's on youtube, he knew the licks but couldn't always play because he was so fucked up all the time. There was another musician, Chris Speding, who was running the sound board and also had a bass on his lap, many times Chris would play and they would turn Sid's bass off. This was on the U.S. tour. I know Lemmy taught Sid the licks and even Glen showed Sid the bass lines as he co/wrote the music
I mean its punk music you're not gonna have many virtuoso players when the music being simple is the entire point
it’s not virtuoso it’s a simple line and he couldn’t even play that 😭
Dude, there's a pretty big gulf between being a virtuoso and being completely unable to play a part that you yourself say is quite simple.
Exactly... The whole band was shit, that's the appeal.
Well, there's a lot of talented and even some virtuosos in punk rock bass players. The intent of punk rock is to be intense and sincere in the way of playing, not to be simple.
Punk is so fucking punk as long as you follow all the rules to be punk or you’re not.
I remembered in a video documentary that Sid tried and practiced as much as possible. But this what they got from him. He maybe not the best bass player, but because of his charisma every rock fan tried to copy his looks and style.
Heroin + Bass = Sid
And Lemmy, for that matter.. 😅
Controversial opinion, but I don’t get why people love Sid vicious so much. Dude was an arrogant, rude, drug addict who dragged his girlfriend with him and he couldn’t even play.
People like the idea of Sid and Nancy a lot more than they’d actually like them if they actually met them
@@nellyboi3043 true, people are into that “Bonnie and Clyde” sort of “couple against the world” aesthetic, rather than the tragic reality of it.
Could he bollocks
We all knew he couldn’t play a note .. should never have got rid of Matlock , one of the main early songwriters
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Roight, that clip…Jaco Pastorius…jealous!
The Sex Pistols were a fake punk band.
You probably don’t know shit about punk
You know it’s funny the Sex Pistols wanted people to hate them and look what your doing your hating on them so in a way your promoting them and making them happy😂
@@Punkhead1331 I actually enjoy the sex pistols. I just think it's funny that people take them seriously since their punk image was manufactured by their manager McLaren. Their corporate and marketing roots put them at odds with the things you would typically define as "punk". They were actually a boy band draped in punk imagery.
He was One of The Greatest - ever to play !
I saw Sidney at winterland and yeah he can play and from what I saw he played well.
He's a rock icon in his own way. So I'll give him that.
There's plenty of live clips where you can actually hear him play good enough.