Karen Read supporters had a beautiful 24hr. hour vigil for Officer John O'Keefe at Canton P.D. that ended at 8am this morning. Today being the third anniversary of John's death, R.I.P. Officer O'Keefe.
“Justice for John” comes first. To me, it’s appropriate and even necessary to follow that up with “Justice for Karen.” John was killed and that loss is immeasurable, tragic, and infuriating. Wasting years of Karen’s life by throwing her in jail based on highly questionable evidence would just continue the tragedy
Most of the Free Karen Read supporters i know ALWAYS mention Officer John O'Keefe. Instead of his so called friends who referred to him as "a man passed out in the snow" or"the GUY who never came into the house" even during the 911 call it was never mentioned that he was a Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe. I support Justice for Both Officer John O'Keefe and Karen Read. Sadly due to the incompetence of the investigation he may never get justice.
When the victim is a police officer and a mate, you STAY INDOORS, yeah right Al. Pull the other one. You then ditch your phones, your basement flooring, the freaking DOG, the dang house, even suburb. Come on AL, pull the OTHER one.
@Al Wunsch, take it from an old nurse, speaking for myself only, I appreciate every one of our first responders. Police, Firefighters, Emts and any others I may have missed. There are bad apples in EVERY profession, that doesn’t mean that the whole bunch needs tossed.
There is zero comparison between A Benefield “supporters” & those of Karen Read… primary reasons being that Canton law enforcement has been sadly & notoriously below board (putting it nicely.) People (including women!) are so fed up… & more than totally fed up with the misogyny that usually accompanies below-board-law-enforcement. Kinda disappointed that this episode focused on such an irrelevant question.
I don’t think she was framed. It doesn’t mean I think those cops were completely innocent of everything. They destroyed their phones for a reason. John O’Keefe was 3:39 working in this sex crimes unit. We’ll see about to uncover something that those cops were doing? I just don’t know about the dog in the floor and all that I just don’t know. I think it can be somewhere in the middle. I definitely don’t think Karen planned on killing him. But she was blitz that drunk, she was still drunk as per her blood alcohol level the next day. It’s a complex case.
I know John worked on sex crimes i seriously wonder if he knew what was happening with Sandra birchmore which led to his demise. He was a good cop. Definitely is not the type of guy to give a blind eye to a sexual predator like the others in canton. How do 32,000 text messages go undetected. I’d like to know
I find it personally offensive that the DA thinks they have a case actually. They are the criminals. Civil Rights violations are coming… and hopefully the real defendant or plural
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Mr Wunsch, III is incorrect we celebrate OJO and speak his name in every sentence on this topic. Ur also have zero knowledge of this due to when ur sitting there we just finished a 24 hour standout honoring "OFFICER" John O'Keefe.
Vinnie, you should submit the word "proctor" as the word of the year. (prok•tar) v. Getting called out for saying something bad about another person. Example: "The witness got 'proctored' for saying the defendant had a leaky balloon knot." The prosecutor got 'proctored' for calling Alec Baldwin a jerk."
Dang, I’m relegated to the replay group! But as always I enjoyed the Tangent Podcast with @Vinnie Politan @Al Wunsch & @Glen Jones aka Jonesey. You guys are the best!
The term is “wrongfully convicted”, and yeah that ignited a movement because it’s pretty awful and scary to think your government is capable of doing that. People are probably projecting their loved ones on Karen, but it makes sense to me!
Canton police is to blame for this dumpster fire. As HIggins would say “ From Jump” the blue line decided not to investigate and the cover up began in less than 24 hours. JOK deserves better from his blue line brothers. A dead police officer on Brian ALberts lawn and he does nothing literally ZERO. He heard the sirens and he knew he couldn’t open his front door. I can go on for days
There’s justice for John and there is fkr . They are not the same.. the family and friends of John started justice for John and it has nothing to do with Karen .. somehow the victim was forgotten.. disgrace
I still don't understand why they were driving drunk and, supposedly, he had a drink in the vehicle. He should have known better, as a police officer. For me, that's still a head scratcher. That's not really blaming the victim, because we still don't know how he died.
I don’t think KR is a “ Celebrity” it’s the fact this this entire case is a bunch of BS and doesn’t make sense the CW is charging her with these insane and ridiculous murder charges. There was ZERO evidence from the first trial proving she’s guilty. I mean the jury certainly knew she wasn’t guilty. So with all that said, we are simply supporting this poor innocent woman who lost her boyfriend tragically and now has to live life without him but also have to deal with all this court nonsense. And threats from the CW. Which isn’t fair to put her through. If this happened to anyone else, I think the public would be backing them up 1000%! We all know the CW is hiding crap. Should Trooper Proctor had done his job the correct way, he MIGHT OF actually found the real murderer instead of trying to take credit and victory for naming KR as the killer when in fact isn’t true. He did a poor and horrible job needless to say. Did everything wrong and so did his bosses and mostly everyone else involved in the Canton Police Department. Either way, Karen has to defend herself. She didn’t want this to happen. She didn’t ask for all of us to side with her and back her up. It’s just what happened due to her situation. I feel for JO parents, family/friends and his niece and nephew. So if the media is more focused on her, BLAME CANTON POLICE AND TROOPER PROCTOR!!! SHE DIDNT ASK FOR THIS!!! We’re supporting her all bc of how they’re charging her. Again if a proctor did his job, this wouldn’t be happening.
I think, if in any case, it's not clear cut and enough evidence, and too much reasonable doubt, if state can't proof you did it, defendant must let go. You must proof guilty without reasonable doubt
You can fool some of the people some of the time and that's enough to make a preety decent living. W.C Field. That's very fitting yo this case too. Certain youtubers are making a good living fooling gullible people.
And many more making money having nothing to do with KR or anything crime. And there's plenty of fighting between YT channels. It's quite entertaining.
I had to stop watching CourtTV over their abysmal coverage of the Read trial. Law & Crime, Melanie Little, LYK, EDB and Brother Counsel are all doing phenomenal, factchecked coverage and opinion videos.
I'm watching this case from Chile. We have a very different justice system, but I've learned from all the lawtubers about USA system. I'm not a Karen supporter, but i don't think the state prove her guilt, not Even close to eliminate reasonable doubt. And i think nobody can deny the investigation was, at least, mediocre
Sorry but AL needs to watch the trial if he wants to comment on it… and I believe he’s a defense attorney which I find terrifying. All of his facts on this case are completely false. I mean come on
Vinnie, stop coflating celebrity with lack of police integrity. The two things are different and require separate analyses. The whole world is watching this mishegoss.
I never saw anything like this lol the prosecutor forgot he's trying a murder case and is instead acting like the Alberts and McCabe's defense attorney. I never saw so much tapdancing to protect CW witnesses that committed perjury and destroyed evidence. Someone tell "Breenan" he's the prosecutor not Jen McCabe's private defense attorney.
And Karen Read’s Lexus didn’t kill John. We honor John O’Keefe every day Al, today makes 3 years he has passed. Why are you not asking his family why they don’t expect more from their local friendlys? He deserves justice he may never get because of the disgraceful investigation done. But one thing is certain Jen McCabe made the search, while her friend lay dying in her sisters lawn.
@@CrystalWysong1021false .. and the family knows she did it .. the disgrace of fkr booing them when they enter court .. saying you’re honoring his murderer and him shouldn’t be in the same sentence
@@LeanneRigby-iy7nx 😂 Never gonna happen! You’re an idiot if you haven’t listened to EVERY SINGLE LAWYER say her civil rights have been violated and the case should be dismissed. Jen McCabe should be more worried about those bracelets than Karen Read is right now… Hos much time in prison will Jen receive for being an accessory to MURDER?
It's the whole FKR movement, Nick Rocco and Turtleboy that has made Karen out to be like a celebrity and she loves it. The case should not have played out like it did with all the chanting, screaming, stand outs, fundraisers, dinners with the defense lawyer? and Karen. It is distasteful to John's family who does not come out publicly and do the same things or the witnesses. I have watched the whole trial and even the jury selection that took some time, and it turned into a parade, cheering committee and witness intimidation smear.
Karen Read supporters had a beautiful 24hr. hour vigil for Officer John O'Keefe at Canton P.D. that ended at 8am this morning. Today being the third anniversary of John's death, R.I.P. Officer O'Keefe.
i don't like one bit how CT tv covers our karen read case
They where also asking for money wernt they ?
@@bobbergman6128 wow that says right there she didn't do it. There's the proof
nope@@Victoria12339
@Mehad mema-d2x had nothing to do with Karen. it was a 24 hr vigil to honor OJO
“Justice for John” comes first. To me, it’s appropriate and even necessary to follow that up with “Justice for Karen.” John was killed and that loss is immeasurable, tragic, and infuriating. Wasting years of Karen’s life by throwing her in jail based on highly questionable evidence would just continue the tragedy
Most of the Free Karen Read supporters i know ALWAYS mention Officer John O'Keefe. Instead of his so called friends who referred to him as "a man passed out in the snow" or"the GUY who never came into the house" even during the 911 call it was never mentioned that he was a Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe. I support Justice for Both Officer John O'Keefe and Karen Read. Sadly due to the incompetence of the investigation he may never get justice.
Right Wunsch is wrong!
You wrong Wunsch.
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Much speak you? Learn sentence structure and then come criticize me ...Regards, @legalweapon3
She's a real person, in real trouble, that needs help, because she was given a frame up, as the boys in blue covered their blooody tracks
Justice for John, free Karen Read, free Turtleboy!
Comparing Karen Read to Murderer Luigi is beyond my comprehension.
FYI, these three are friends with corrupt cops of Massachusetts.
When the victim is a police officer and a mate, you STAY INDOORS, yeah right Al. Pull the other one. You then ditch your phones, your basement flooring, the freaking DOG, the dang house, even suburb. Come on AL, pull the OTHER one.
Karen Reed is supported because people think she’s innocent and was framed. After hearing the trial, I believe she was framed
Did Al even watch the trial? I don’t get his POV. Stevie Wonder could see what’s going on here a mile away.
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He is another corrupt cop blower
You don't know what you're talking about. FJR defintely honors the memory of John Okeefe
Maybe call her a public figure…to a certain extent. Or just infamy bc she’s known for something shameful & criminal.
🌟 Instead of celebrity id say 'public figure'
She’s a disgrace
@Al Wunsch, take it from an old nurse, speaking for myself only, I appreciate every one of our first responders. Police, Firefighters, Emts and any others I may have missed. There are bad apples in EVERY profession, that doesn’t mean that the whole bunch needs tossed.
There is zero comparison between A Benefield “supporters” & those of Karen Read… primary reasons being that Canton law enforcement has been sadly & notoriously below board (putting it nicely.) People (including women!) are so fed up… & more than totally fed up with the misogyny that usually accompanies below-board-law-enforcement. Kinda disappointed that this episode focused on such an irrelevant question.
This frame job of Karen is so obvious I question why people refuse to admit it. Is it cognitive dissonance, money, or just lack of common sense?
I don’t think she was framed. It doesn’t mean I think those cops were completely innocent of everything. They destroyed their phones for a reason. John O’Keefe was 3:39 working in this sex crimes unit. We’ll see about to uncover something that those cops were doing? I just don’t know about the dog in the floor and all that I just don’t know. I think it can be somewhere in the middle. I definitely don’t think Karen planned on killing him. But she was blitz that drunk, she was still drunk as per her blood alcohol level the next day. It’s a complex case.
I know John worked on sex crimes i seriously wonder if he knew what was happening with Sandra birchmore which led to his demise. He was a good cop. Definitely is not the type of guy to give a blind eye to a sexual predator like the others in canton. How do 32,000 text messages go undetected. I’d like to know
So who do you think would have killed him then ?
@@Victoria12339well we know it wasnt Karen Read. so. ...I think the feds know who killed John
@@annemerritt3722 The Feds know it was Read. They spent a lot of time and money investigating everyone else. No one else did it.
@@annemerritt3722we don't know it wasnt her. Was any of the witnesses from the house that night the same cops that abused the poor Birchmore girl?
This is not Karen’s fault she has enough on her plate.
All of this is Karen Read’s fault. From the moment she put her SUV in reverse 1/29/22 to this very day is on her. It all points back to her.
@@Smittyleethis case is a case of common sense. It’s that simple. The writing is on the wall
I find it personally offensive that the DA thinks they have a case actually. They are the criminals. Civil Rights violations are coming… and hopefully the real defendant or plural
@@Smittylee even her father went on that news show and said that Karen said she backed up and hit something
@ yup and her mother was the first one to say his arm injuries looked like dog bites. They make a great team for this BS cover up story.
Al would have a different outlook if this was happening to his client.
Funny Vinny was talking about different tune when he was talking to FKR
Supporters!!
He plays to his audience. He knows to pretend he believes she's innocent when he has to,for the viewers.
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Jennifer it was great having you with us 💖🌹
1:16 Al is debuting his new dance move, the “swimmer’s ear” 😂
More of an homage to the Night at the Roxbury boys...Regards, @legalweapon3
How can that joker say we don’t mention John O’Keefe. He’s mentioned constantly and everyone feels awful for him. We never call him “the victim” ??
Happy Birthday, VINNIE!!
It would be a loaf of Pettria’s Italian bread and a pound of butter.
Mr Wunsch, III is incorrect we celebrate OJO and speak his name in every sentence on this topic. Ur also have zero knowledge of this due to when ur sitting there we just finished a 24 hour standout honoring "OFFICER" John O'Keefe.
Glad to hear that but the spotlight is still on the Defendant and not the victim- Regards, @legalweapon3
@@legalweapon3 in a sense yes bc she is on trial. OJO is not
😂😂😂@vinnie, she can become another Amanda Knox , 2 killers on podcasts😂😂
Vinnie, you should submit the word "proctor" as the word of the year. (prok•tar) v. Getting called out for saying something bad about another person. Example: "The witness got 'proctored' for saying the defendant had a leaky balloon knot." The prosecutor got 'proctored' for calling Alec Baldwin a jerk."
INo No No Flippen way I would never what to be that kind of celebrity Those Mccalberts think they are though
Dang, I’m relegated to the replay group! But as always I enjoyed the Tangent Podcast with @Vinnie Politan @Al Wunsch & @Glen Jones aka Jonesey. You guys are the best!
The dog did it !
I think you are barking up the wrong tree...Regards and Woof, @legalweapon3
Bananas Foster is my favorite dessert.❤️
That case is like a circus. Ridiculous.
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The term is “wrongfully convicted”, and yeah that ignited a movement because it’s pretty awful and scary to think your government is capable of doing that. People are probably projecting their loved ones on Karen, but it makes sense to me!
Who was "wrongfully convicted"? Regards, @legalweapon3
Yorkshire pudding is not "fancy"...it's just a batter baked in roast drippings. It's very old school.
Biscuits and gravy. Sausage gravy. Sandy from Cincinnati.
Canton police is to blame for this dumpster fire. As HIggins would say “ From Jump” the blue line decided not to investigate and the cover up began in less than 24 hours. JOK deserves better from his blue line brothers. A dead police officer on Brian ALberts lawn and he does nothing literally ZERO. He heard the sirens and he knew he couldn’t open his front door. I can go on for days
There’s justice for John and there is fkr . They are not the same.. the family and friends of John started justice for John and it has nothing to do with Karen .. somehow the victim was forgotten.. disgrace
Judge Belvin should never have allowed Baez to launch that surprise theory of mol...es...tation. It was absurd. I feel the judge lost the case.
I still don't understand why they were driving drunk and, supposedly, he had a drink in the vehicle. He should have known better, as a police officer. For me, that's still a head scratcher. That's not really blaming the victim, because we still don't know how he died.
I don’t think KR is a “ Celebrity” it’s the fact this this entire case is a bunch of BS and doesn’t make sense the CW is charging her with these insane and ridiculous murder charges. There was ZERO evidence from the first trial proving she’s guilty. I mean the jury certainly knew she wasn’t guilty. So with all that said, we are simply supporting this poor innocent woman who lost her boyfriend tragically and now has to live life without him but also have to deal with all this court nonsense. And threats from the CW. Which isn’t fair to put her through. If this happened to anyone else, I think the public would be backing them up 1000%!
We all know the CW is hiding crap. Should Trooper Proctor had done his job the correct way, he MIGHT OF actually found the real murderer instead of trying to take credit and victory for naming KR as the killer when in fact isn’t true. He did a poor and horrible job needless to say. Did everything wrong and so did his bosses and mostly everyone else involved in the Canton Police Department.
Either way, Karen has to defend herself. She didn’t want this to happen. She didn’t ask for all of us to side with her and back her up. It’s just what happened due to her situation.
I feel for JO parents, family/friends and his niece and nephew. So if the media is more focused on her, BLAME CANTON POLICE AND TROOPER PROCTOR!!! SHE DIDNT ASK FOR THIS!!! We’re supporting her all bc of how they’re charging her.
Again if a proctor did his job, this wouldn’t be happening.
None of this would be happening if these cops didn’t drive drunk. Sad
Yes Vinnie, I do think Karen Read and her family is all about fame and fortune...it's like go figure man!
Al always unaligns with my own views 100% of the time. He is consistent at least.
I think, if in any case, it's not clear cut and enough evidence, and too much reasonable doubt, if state can't proof you did it, defendant must let go. You must proof guilty without reasonable doubt
If guilty, notorious, if not guilty notoriety?
You can fool some of the people some of the time and that's enough to make a preety decent living. W.C Field. That's very fitting yo this case too. Certain youtubers are making a good living fooling gullible people.
And many more making money having nothing to do with KR or anything crime. And there's plenty of fighting between YT channels. It's quite entertaining.
I had to stop watching CourtTV over their abysmal coverage of the Read trial. Law & Crime, Melanie Little, LYK, EDB and Brother Counsel are all doing phenomenal, factchecked coverage and opinion videos.
Well, by golly, thanks for watching the Tangent Podcast! Certainly swell to have you aboard!!! Regards, @legalweapon3
I'm watching this case from Chile. We have a very different justice system, but I've learned from all the lawtubers about USA system. I'm not a Karen supporter, but i don't think the state prove her guilt, not Even close to eliminate reasonable doubt. And i think nobody can deny the investigation was, at least, mediocre
Sorry but AL needs to watch the trial if he wants to comment on it… and I believe he’s a defense attorney which I find terrifying. All of his facts on this case are completely false. I mean come on
Obviously some jurors disagreed with you--perhaps you should watch the first trial like I did--Regards, @legalweapon3
Vinnie, stop coflating celebrity with lack of police integrity. The two things are different and require separate analyses. The whole world is watching this mishegoss.
Respectfully and Unfortunately their is ZERO evidence that proves that! But you can have your own opinion. It’s just baseless
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The CW is playing defense.
The Read Defense Team has a serious case of "Leaking Balloon Knot" with Hank Brennan as the new Prosecutor.
I never saw anything like this lol the prosecutor forgot he's trying a murder case and is instead acting like the Alberts and McCabe's defense attorney. I never saw so much tapdancing to protect CW witnesses that committed perjury and destroyed evidence.
Someone tell "Breenan" he's the prosecutor not Jen McCabe's private defense attorney.
That is disgusting that mob. A fan a son and Uncle is Dead
And Karen Read’s Lexus didn’t kill John. We honor John O’Keefe every day Al, today makes 3 years he has passed. Why are you not asking his family why they don’t expect more from their local friendlys? He deserves justice he may never get because of the disgraceful investigation done. But one thing is certain Jen McCabe made the search, while her friend lay dying in her sisters lawn.
@CrystalWysong1021 thank you for your opinion.
@@CrystalWysong1021I can’t wait to see her in shiny new bracelets
@@CrystalWysong1021false .. and the family knows she did it .. the disgrace of fkr booing them when they enter court .. saying you’re honoring his murderer and him shouldn’t be in the same sentence
@@LeanneRigby-iy7nx 😂 Never gonna happen! You’re an idiot if you haven’t listened to EVERY SINGLE LAWYER say her civil rights have been violated and the case should be dismissed. Jen McCabe should be more worried about those bracelets than Karen Read is right now… Hos much time in prison will Jen receive for being an accessory to MURDER?
Karen is a hero.
It's the whole FKR movement, Nick Rocco and Turtleboy that has made Karen out to be like a celebrity and she loves it. The case should not have played out like it did with all the chanting, screaming, stand outs, fundraisers, dinners with the defense lawyer? and Karen. It is distasteful to John's family who does not come out publicly and do the same things or the witnesses. I have watched the whole trial and even the jury selection that took some time, and it turned into a parade, cheering committee and witness intimidation smear.
GLORIFYING. Al- That is the word for what this ‘celebrity’ fanfare is w Karen Reed.