I think wendy was brought to the constant, becaise she accidentally attracted the shadows. On Klei's twitter and on wendy's lore, it's said that after losing abigail, she got interested in occultism and dark themes, and ut's known that she ws brough to the constant after hearing Abigail's voice on a gramophone after trying every method possible to talk to the death
That's her compendium entry, which can be found in game. But that's not what it actually says. The compendium says that she heard a "strange ragtime tune" and soon after heard a voice telling her what she needed to do to bring back Abigail. It's very heavily implied that this voice was Maxwell, since that's literally what happened to Wilson, albeit under different circumstances.
@@nixtypikalIt seems like Maxwell doesn’t fully realize that Wendy is his niece as well, so pretty probable that he took on the opportunity at face value
9:42 fun fact, Charlie has some unused inspect lines on the codes. Very few, but a few. She has an inspect line for Winona, and it’s “I never meant for you to be a part of this.”
Gosh imagine that the forces that may be took wilson because he'd, many years down the line, end up making the portal that could link the worlds together. By gosh foreshadowing mmmmm
I don't think he is the only one, but he was the perfect victim if you think about it. A crazy scientist alone in the woods trying to do the experiment of his life, he was desperate for something, and it was pretty easy to just get him.
I have a theory that Wilson is secretly the smartest person in all of DST, moreso than Wagstaff, even, which is why Wagstaff needs him to help. There is much more, but it isn't anything that I have actually written down as of yet. I'd have to round it out and do more research.
7:45 it's actually shown in that short that maxwell manipulated news sources around Wigfrid to mislead her about her fading stardom - once she enters the portal to the constant, we get to see a (seemingly discarded) paper proclaiming her fame and hype, implying the deception was either dismissed once maxwell had what he wanted, or that he produced entirely fraudulent papers for her to read and this one was disposed of improperly, but nonetheless disposed of to prevent her notice
I feel like the naming scheme of all the survivors having names that start with 'W' has a plot reason, possibly implying that it was fated for them to enter the Constant. It would be one thing if it was just the abducted survivors who had the naming scheme, since Maxwell presumably had some control over who exactly gets brought there, but even the "unintended" survivors like Winona, Walter, and Wes follow the naming scheme along with the native survivors. In some cases, it's not even their first name, as Wickerbottom & Witherstone are last names, Webber is most likely a last name (it's thematic but also happens to be a real surname), and Wigfrid is the name of the opera character that she is playing. So it seems like you simply need to be heavily associated with a name that starts with 'W.' Maxwell is caught inbetween since his legal name is William and the letter 'M' in of itself is just an upside down 'W.' This duality mirrors how he "played" king just as he "played" Maxwell; at the end of the day, he's still just another survivor whose name is William. Contrast this to Charlie, who has both freedom and power, and isn't associated with a 'W' name. This is running a bit long so I'll just end it here. This could just be meta-contextual story telling, where the 'W's don't have a reason to be there in canon, but as a thematic story element intended only for the people consuming the story. Either way, I do think that there's a greater reason for it other than just being "quirky."
We know Wilson lived in Wagstaff's former house/lab so maybe Maxwell captured him either on accident thinking he was Wagstaff or captured him preemptively to avoid having to deal with another person snooping into his realm, who knows maybe even his failed experiment in the forbidden knowledge animation was him trying to replicate one of Wagstaff's ealier experiments.
@@dylanpyle6500 pwobably. He didnt mention him by name... But why would he presume that wagstaff is a failing scientist? +he knew every wilson's motion.
I definitely think WX-78 was forced into the constant against their will, as they were shown arguing with Wagstaff in the animation short. Wagstaff also looks pretty angry at WX when they are falling in the portal. I feel like since WX kept trying to continue their experiments on perfecting a new body, (despite Wagstaff telling them to give it up) and kept acting erratically (throwing stuff at Wagstaff and having hallucinations) Wagstaff grew angry/afraid at/of them and tried to get rid of them.
I think Woodie was chosen by Maxwell because he was lonely and he suffered from his curse so Maxwell promised him to give him someone important that will understood him so he gave him Lucy (and send him to constant by the way xd)
@@kehun70 He didn't get Lucy given to him per se, but I think Maxwell tampered with his mind to think his axe was sentient. Or he gave sentience to his axe. One of the two. Because we see an axe that looks just like Lucy in the Walter animation right next to what is presumably Woodie's shack.
we do have *some* mild proof woodie's powers are lunar! His lunar alignment has the moon "spare" him from his curse, and not activate it on full moons, so the moon does have some sentient control over him and his power. Great video!
It's always funny that the terraria Collab update suggests that wortox literally teleported to terraria and started playing before coming back to dst with the terrarium
to me the constant is a monkey paw kind of deal, giving each survivor something they want, but twisting it severely "oh widfrig, we will make you famous, by making you disappear" "wendy you can have your sister...as a ghost and only here" "webber, come have friends, spider friends that is" "woodie, you can learn to control your curse here" who is very interesting in all this is wagstaff who is now an hologram, is he truly there? does he count as being there so the shadows wont hunt him? or is alter protecting him somehow? then there is wanda, the character we know the least about, how she learn to make those clocks? did she made a deal with the shadows to learn that and now is refusing to pay, is all this connected to the library and the codex umbra? it does feel like the nightmares want people, forces, beings like...charlie, arguable one of the strongest nightmares since she have so much control? perhaps them saw the value in having humans in the constant to feed the nightmares, perhaps the nightmares dont exist without people to fear them? it feels like them and alter are on opposite sides and them is just better at recluiting survivors because of charlie
celestial portal: go back to the real world, someone takes your place. escaping the constant is possible, but its an endless loop of people coming back and leaving.
Backtreck Watch only brings Wanda to the places she's been in tho, maybe that implies she was in the constant before (and got all the time pieces needed for her watches) and somehow escaped Maybe that's why the shadows were so desperately searching for her
Wanda's compendium entry does say that she acts like she's met the other survivors before, despite them not knowing her when she arrived. The implication being that a younger (relatively anyways) Wanda will come to the Constant in the future, i.e the older Wanda is here before younger Wanda
I always thought the survivors made a deal with maxwell not knowing what was the cost for their wishes. for example wolfgang want's to be strong after seeing what real strength felt like and managed to make a deal where he would get this mightiness at a cost of being sent to the constant. Wendy could have asked to see her sister again, webber wanted to be considered normal, wicker wanted to save the books etc.
Well , wickerbottom's level of knowledge is unsure. She has secret knowledge. But all the ingame therminalogical ramblings are the result of her brain getting pumped full of library.
also willow just needed to protect from shadows, bernie (who you didn't talk about) was taken away from her. bernie activates when shadows come, so when she didn't have him, she used fire as a replacement.
The fact that you mentioned Maxwell’s demon after Wes reminded me of the original thought experiment in which particles could only move in one direction depending on their speed, so the Survivors could be the particles and the Constant and the real world the two chambers.
Isn't the point being taken to the constant is to free Maxwell and for entertainment? It's set up that he is trapped and bored so many of the characters have some ability geared towards survival, especially the ones that relate to shadow magic. Most survivors were willing to make a deal so it was easy for him to give them their wish while freeing him. Even Wes was trapped and gaurded. Wes was accidentally taken and had no survival ability so he wouldn't be able to even free Maxwell so was kept safe for entertainment.
I think it's important to remember that both the Shipwrecked and Hamlet islands are out of bounds for the survivors now, during Maxwell's time at the throne, those places used to be connected, but now that Charlie has control over the constant the survivors are trapped in the main island, the Reign of Giants, and for some reason Warly and Wormwood managed to make the cut into this mess and join the main gang, but Walani, Woodlegs, Wilbur, Wilba and Wheeler are still (probably) living far away from the main cast Also in Maxwell's animated short you can see how Charlie sees the survivors as pawns in a chess game where she views herself (and Maxwell) as the black team, although for some reason Webber, Wormwood, Wortox and Wurt are missing, so maybe they have no role in this charade (in Charlie's eyes)
It's because she doesn't really know who they are loyal to. wormwood is loyal to spiders, wurt to merms, wortox literally keeps leaving the constant everyday to get new junk, and wormwood is a conjuction of the moon stone with roots from the constant, turning him into a 50/50
@@diversquid4793 I'm thinking she doesn't see Webber, Wortox, Wormwood, and Wurt as threats nor allies. Though that does beg the question: Why was Wes on there?
I feel like Wilson just ended up being the right person, at the wrong time, at the wrong place. A man ready to do anything for science, living at the previous house of a man who is deeply immersed in the constant, with what is probably either the first, or at least a special Radiola radio? He was perfect to be manipulated to make a gateway for the shadows to invade, this time not bound to radios and books, (and turns out also a film projector) but a proper door, allowing it to take all the others.
Maybe Wes wasn't taken back because just by being transported into the constant, he's already seen too much, or because Maxwell and the shadows just didn't care enough to do a favor for this poor man
My whole WW Wagstaff confrontation theory is that you can see in the animated short that WX pretty much wanted to replace humanity with robots, and even violently threw stuff at Wagstaff when he was arguing with him about the robot uprising, so Wagstaff was forced to destroy the robots WX was creating and WX himself, but because WX was a former friend he did not want to destroy him and thus just threw him into the constant instead.
Absolutely awesome lore vid here this was a blast to watch! I'm OBSESSED with theorizing why and how all the survivors ended up here so this has been a real treat to see. Especially love your theory on how the shadows likely feed off of the emotional strife and mental distress of some of the survivors, actually fits very well as a legit explaination for some of the characters.
10:10 Its also posible that he stays here to help the rest escape. I dont think him being able to rescue survivors is true cause it is shown in his animatic and many of his quotes that he has good heart so if he could save others he would probably do so.
wortox being able to save the survivors doesnt automatically make them a jerk - it could just be that no one in the constant has ever thought about it being an option
wortox meanwhile is just sticking around partly for his own amusement and partly to help the other survivors as he's shown to be quite nice despite being a little troll
Considering that Wortox seems to be far more aware of how The Constant actually works than we'd think, I theorize that the reason he doesn't try saving the survivors is because he knows that THEY would not let him get away with that and he's scare of what the consequences would be. That or his curse/teleporting powers would actually do some serious damage to the survivors, so he just physically can't help them.
Just want to let you know that if you make a time line of when the survivors were taken, Wilson was presumably the LAST one taken, not the first! (As he was taken in 1921) Though you probably mean first as in “first to be playable”
I personally think Wes and Wigfrid were the first ones taken (as Wes was taken when Maxwell tried to get revenge on the guy who wronged him, and I feel as if Maxwell would try to take revenge pretty early on..) and Wigfrid was reading a newspaper about the San Fransisco earthquake which happened in 1906, meaning she was probably taken somewhere around that time
Willson was the easy prey, he had a waxolla radio (probably the og one to boot) and he was capqble enough to open up a portal to constant. He might have been one of the first survivours to arive by constant time. WX-78 falls backwards into the portal. Not a comon way to enter a new place. Willow worked for shadows in exchange for a new beggining i think. She likes being in the constant. Wicker knew too much. Wolfgang was stated to seek maxwell himself. For the power of shadow magic. (His describtion) Wendy... well with her it COULD be the shadows , concidering ragtime. But as we see bargains are the maxwell's main way of getting people in. I belive that while sittong atop the nightmare throne maxwell had some form of agency. I belive that he was always acting on his own , or otherwise why would shadows get tired of him , and in wich regard? Charly is a vessel for shadows and gosh , we See how it affects her. At least those are my thoughts. Weird thing: winona enteres constant BEFORE charly's reign. Maybe even when wagstaff got there. (Around the time of hamlet) In the animated short charly is still split in half.) Also , she suspects wagstaff maybe... but she never stated that she blames him for anything outright. We might overestimate her knowledge.
@@cononsberg6919 oh , now i just want to recreate f.i.e.n.d.s. on a public server) Also it probably was quite a lot of fun , watching them all strugle , again and again , for him. Especialy with his love for desteuction.
Considering WX's distinct hatred of Wagstaff [well... WX hates everyone but he seems to hate Wagstaff alot more then everyone else] it seems likely Wagstaff transporting him to the Constant was not under WX's consent...
I always thought that all the survs that maxwell got into the constant were people he thought could beat the constant and free him, except for wes and wx87
I thought I’d throw my two cents onto why the non-DST characters are in the Constant. Wilba was obviously just born there and Wagstaff isn’t *really* there so they don’t count. My theory on Walani’s presence comes from various lines of dialogue she has. Inspecting things such as the Cutlass or Captain’s Hat heavily implies she used to a be a pirate. And her examine quote for specifically the Burnt Piratehatinator (not burnt anything else) is “Fire always wins in the end.” With these pieces of dialogue, my theory is that whatever pirate ship Walani was on burst into flames and she tried desperately to escape, and since the Constant loves desperate people, it promised to save her by pulling her in. For Wilbur, I also have a theory. Considering his role as “the monkey king” and how we find him alone and adrift at sea when unlocking him, I theorize that perhaps he was the original king of Moon Quay, before being overthrown by the current Queen and sent to sea. Wheeler’s an explorer with a desire to chart the uncharted, so I think for her the Constant simply saw her and said “hey if you get trapped in this hell you’ll be able to explore forever” and she took the deal. As for Woodlegs… I have no idea. He hardly feels like a real person compared to the others sometimes since all he is is “funny pirate man”. It however may be a possibility that if my Walani theory is correct, Woodlegs could also have been on that ship. While everyone else if very clearly from the early 1900s, both Woodlegs and Walani have lines for items that imply they may be from a later point in time (Walani and Woodlegs are the only two characters (besides Wickerbottom) to recognize the Orange Soda can and Woodlegs mentioning his mom used to make him frozen waffles) so perhaps there’s a connection there.
Too be honest, I don't think Wes was taken by pure acident. I think shadows were planning to take him form the start. The crows in his animated short chased him into the portal, destroying Maxwells plan.
I've heard a theory that Wes wasn't exactly there by accident, but crows that chased him to this exact location are pawns of Them, since those Crows are the same as in Constant
I honestly like this theory. But also one of Maxwells quotes to the crows is, “I don’t know how they got here.” So I always thought Wes accidentally brought the crows in and then they multiplied. But I think the theory might still be plausible.
Hey Biddo, do you animate? A bunch of my discord friends and I are making a DST horror film, but we have a problem: we don’t have an animator yet. I’m asking here because I have no idea where else to put this. Is anyone in here interested in helping my guys out?
i dont think WX entered willingly, in the short where they regain their memories we see the falling in happen after consistant arguing and confrontation about whatever they worked on, and ingame they react very aggresively to wagstaff. wagstaff pushed them in to get rid of them for insubordination because of their disagreement.
I debated including those characters but objected since the video is DST focused, but for a video like this I really should have! Lightning round: Wilba: Born and raised in the constant. Woodlegs: Probably somehow marooned there thanks to some shadow nonsense, easily to manipulate and crazy as heck. Walani: No idea! Possibly way too relaxed and okay with everything going on. Wheeler: Same story as Woodlegs, but replace the sea with the sky! Maxwell probably hit her with the "How about I give you a whole new world to explore" Wilbur: monkey :) Wagstaff: That video is currently rendering right now :)
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I think wendy was brought to the constant, becaise she accidentally attracted the shadows. On Klei's twitter and on wendy's lore, it's said that after losing abigail, she got interested in occultism and dark themes, and ut's known that she ws brough to the constant after hearing Abigail's voice on a gramophone after trying every method possible to talk to the death
That's her compendium entry, which can be found in game. But that's not what it actually says. The compendium says that she heard a "strange ragtime tune" and soon after heard a voice telling her what she needed to do to bring back Abigail. It's very heavily implied that this voice was Maxwell, since that's literally what happened to Wilson, albeit under different circumstances.
@@nixtypikalIt seems like Maxwell doesn’t fully realize that Wendy is his niece as well, so pretty probable that he took on the opportunity at face value
9:42 fun fact, Charlie has some unused inspect lines on the codes. Very few, but a few. She has an inspect line for Winona, and it’s “I never meant for you to be a part of this.”
I think wilson was chosen because he was the only one that could build the portal thing
Gosh imagine that the forces that may be took wilson because he'd, many years down the line, end up making the portal that could link the worlds together. By gosh foreshadowing mmmmm
I don't think he is the only one, but he was the perfect victim if you think about it.
A crazy scientist alone in the woods trying to do the experiment of his life, he was desperate for something, and it was pretty easy to just get him.
I have a theory that Wilson is secretly the smartest person in all of DST, moreso than Wagstaff, even, which is why Wagstaff needs him to help. There is much more, but it isn't anything that I have actually written down as of yet. I'd have to round it out and do more research.
or the only one foolish enough to actually do it...
And the only one who dabbled in the “dark alchemy” of shadows and pseudoscience
7:45 it's actually shown in that short that maxwell manipulated news sources around Wigfrid to mislead her about her fading stardom - once she enters the portal to the constant, we get to see a (seemingly discarded) paper proclaiming her fame and hype, implying the deception was either dismissed once maxwell had what he wanted, or that he produced entirely fraudulent papers for her to read and this one was disposed of improperly, but nonetheless disposed of to prevent her notice
I feel like the naming scheme of all the survivors having names that start with 'W' has a plot reason, possibly implying that it was fated for them to enter the Constant. It would be one thing if it was just the abducted survivors who had the naming scheme, since Maxwell presumably had some control over who exactly gets brought there, but even the "unintended" survivors like Winona, Walter, and Wes follow the naming scheme along with the native survivors.
In some cases, it's not even their first name, as Wickerbottom & Witherstone are last names, Webber is most likely a last name (it's thematic but also happens to be a real surname), and Wigfrid is the name of the opera character that she is playing. So it seems like you simply need to be heavily associated with a name that starts with 'W.' Maxwell is caught inbetween since his legal name is William and the letter 'M' in of itself is just an upside down 'W.' This duality mirrors how he "played" king just as he "played" Maxwell; at the end of the day, he's still just another survivor whose name is William. Contrast this to Charlie, who has both freedom and power, and isn't associated with a 'W' name.
This is running a bit long so I'll just end it here. This could just be meta-contextual story telling, where the 'W's don't have a reason to be there in canon, but as a thematic story element intended only for the people consuming the story. Either way, I do think that there's a greater reason for it other than just being "quirky."
Have you heard of the theory that the letter W looks similar to the ancient's rune for power?
@@ethershadegaming Yes, I believe I have. Though it was years ago.
Fun fact: once Maxwell defected from being shadow king (the inverted W), his name became Waxwell as far as the game’s code is concerned.
"Now look me in the eyes and tell me wigfrid is a estable person" Miss girl is INSANE!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
We know Wilson lived in Wagstaff's former house/lab so maybe Maxwell captured him either on accident thinking he was Wagstaff or captured him preemptively to avoid having to deal with another person snooping into his realm, who knows maybe even his failed experiment in the forbidden knowledge animation was him trying to replicate one of Wagstaff's ealier experiments.
Oh I LOVE this theory so much oh my gosh
Interesting...
I always thought maxwell and wagstaff to be working together formerly.
no maxwell was talking to Wilson he knew exactly who he was tempting
@@dylanpyle6500 pwobably.
He didnt mention him by name...
But why would he presume that wagstaff is a failing scientist?
+he knew every wilson's motion.
@@nneykobar_hali Nah, they never knew each other actually(Actually, they did, but maxwell says he never cared enough)
I definitely think WX-78 was forced into the constant against their will, as they were shown arguing with Wagstaff in the animation short. Wagstaff also looks pretty angry at WX when they are falling in the portal. I feel like since WX kept trying to continue their experiments on perfecting a new body, (despite Wagstaff telling them to give it up) and kept acting erratically (throwing stuff at Wagstaff and having hallucinations) Wagstaff grew angry/afraid at/of them and tried to get rid of them.
Yeah it's pretty much confirmed they wanted to become an unfeeling machine, incredibly dangerous
10:29 this has lived in my head rent free for about a week now i cannot stop quoting "Yeah, he's here because umm... he-he-he lives here."
I think Woodie was chosen by Maxwell because he was lonely and he suffered from his curse so Maxwell promised him to give him someone important that will understood him so he gave him Lucy (and send him to constant by the way xd)
Oh yeah I completely forgot to mention lucy in his segment huh. Oh dear.
I pretty sure that he had Lucy before the constant he is far to familiar with his axe for that to be possible.
@@kehun70 He didn't get Lucy given to him per se, but I think Maxwell tampered with his mind to think his axe was sentient. Or he gave sentience to his axe. One of the two. Because we see an axe that looks just like Lucy in the Walter animation right next to what is presumably Woodie's shack.
Lucy didnt talk in the woddie animated short@@YoussefAhmed-jd5zu
It is possible to escape the Constant. Warbucks escaped and now he is burning in hell/stuck in the void
Canon infomation
@@BiddoBamss how did your reply come before the comment????
@@Jajaespanol The comment came before the reply? WDYM?
If you count the cult of the lamb crossover as canon, technically webber escaped and immediately ended up in a cult
@@theodoricbogedain9537 back when the comments were less than a day old it said the first reply came an hour before the comment did
we do have *some* mild proof woodie's powers are lunar! His lunar alignment has the moon "spare" him from his curse, and not activate it on full moons, so the moon does have some sentient control over him and his power. Great video!
Imagine being so AGGRESSIVELY canadian that you piss off the moon itself
It's always funny that the terraria Collab update suggests that wortox literally teleported to terraria and started playing before coming back to dst with the terrarium
to me the constant is a monkey paw kind of deal, giving each survivor something they want, but twisting it severely
"oh widfrig, we will make you famous, by making you disappear" "wendy you can have your sister...as a ghost and only here"
"webber, come have friends, spider friends that is" "woodie, you can learn to control your curse here"
who is very interesting in all this is wagstaff who is now an hologram, is he truly there? does he count as being there so the shadows wont hunt him? or is alter protecting him somehow? then there is wanda, the character we know the least about, how she learn to make those clocks? did she made a deal with the shadows to learn that and now is refusing to pay, is all this connected to the library and the codex umbra?
it does feel like the nightmares want people, forces, beings like...charlie, arguable one of the strongest nightmares since she have so much control? perhaps them saw the value in having humans in the constant to feed the nightmares, perhaps the nightmares dont exist without people to fear them? it feels like them and alter are on opposite sides and them is just better at recluiting survivors because of charlie
celestial portal: go back to the real world, someone takes your place. escaping the constant is possible, but its an endless loop of people coming back and leaving.
Backtreck Watch only brings Wanda to the places she's been in tho, maybe that implies she was in the constant before (and got all the time pieces needed for her watches) and somehow escaped
Maybe that's why the shadows were so desperately searching for her
Wanda's compendium entry does say that she acts like she's met the other survivors before, despite them not knowing her when she arrived. The implication being that a younger (relatively anyways) Wanda will come to the Constant in the future, i.e the older Wanda is here before younger Wanda
I always thought the survivors made a deal with maxwell not knowing what was the cost for their wishes. for example wolfgang want's to be strong after seeing what real strength felt like and managed to make a deal where he would get this mightiness at a cost of being sent to the constant. Wendy could have asked to see her sister again, webber wanted to be considered normal, wicker wanted to save the books etc.
Well , wickerbottom's level of knowledge is unsure.
She has secret knowledge.
But all the ingame therminalogical ramblings are the result of her brain getting pumped full of library.
also willow just needed to protect from shadows, bernie (who you didn't talk about) was taken away from her. bernie activates when shadows come, so when she didn't have him, she used fire as a replacement.
11:00 the tallbird REALLY did not like that play
The fact that you mentioned Maxwell’s demon after Wes reminded me of the original thought experiment in which particles could only move in one direction depending on their speed, so the Survivors could be the particles and the Constant and the real world the two chambers.
Isn't the point being taken to the constant is to free Maxwell and for entertainment? It's set up that he is trapped and bored so many of the characters have some ability geared towards survival, especially the ones that relate to shadow magic. Most survivors were willing to make a deal so it was easy for him to give them their wish while freeing him. Even Wes was trapped and gaurded. Wes was accidentally taken and had no survival ability so he wouldn't be able to even free Maxwell so was kept safe for entertainment.
I think it's important to remember that both the Shipwrecked and Hamlet islands are out of bounds for the survivors now, during Maxwell's time at the throne, those places used to be connected, but now that Charlie has control over the constant the survivors are trapped in the main island, the Reign of Giants, and for some reason Warly and Wormwood managed to make the cut into this mess and join the main gang, but Walani, Woodlegs, Wilbur, Wilba and Wheeler are still (probably) living far away from the main cast
Also in Maxwell's animated short you can see how Charlie sees the survivors as pawns in a chess game where she views herself (and Maxwell) as the black team, although for some reason Webber, Wormwood, Wortox and Wurt are missing, so maybe they have no role in this charade (in Charlie's eyes)
Oh, and Wilson is also missing in the chess board, so maybe he is Charlie's rival? (Doubt it) And represents the leader of white team, the survivors
It's because she doesn't really know who they are loyal to. wormwood is loyal to spiders, wurt to merms, wortox literally keeps leaving the constant everyday to get new junk, and wormwood is a conjuction of the moon stone with roots from the constant, turning him into a 50/50
@@diversquid4793 Wilson is actually present in the chess board as part of the white team, he is scared there... just... there
@@diversquid4793 I'm thinking she doesn't see Webber, Wortox, Wormwood, and Wurt as threats nor allies. Though that does beg the question: Why was Wes on there?
@@johnpett1955Wes’s bad luck might screw up her plan SOMEHOW! 😅
Wigfrid was probably in the headlines after going missing so Maxwell didn’t lie to her
Oh sick new lore video just dropped
...like a minute ago, crazy
Lore it Great
I cannot be stopped i'm LORING!!!!
Here's an idea:
Which Survivors do you think would choose to "stay" in the Constant if given the option to leave?
I feel like Wilson just ended up being the right person, at the wrong time, at the wrong place. A man ready to do anything for science, living at the previous house of a man who is deeply immersed in the constant, with what is probably either the first, or at least a special Radiola radio? He was perfect to be manipulated to make a gateway for the shadows to invade, this time not bound to radios and books, (and turns out also a film projector) but a proper door, allowing it to take all the others.
Maybe Wes wasn't taken back because just by being transported into the constant, he's already seen too much, or because Maxwell and the shadows just didn't care enough to do a favor for this poor man
Perfectly fitting...
My whole WW Wagstaff confrontation theory is that you can see in the animated short that WX pretty much wanted to replace humanity with robots, and even violently threw stuff at Wagstaff when he was arguing with him about the robot uprising, so Wagstaff was forced to destroy the robots WX was creating and WX himself, but because WX was a former friend he did not want to destroy him and thus just threw him into the constant instead.
Maybe Wolfgang was captured because he was the only to see Maxwell as he faked his death
Absolutely awesome lore vid here this was a blast to watch! I'm OBSESSED with theorizing why and how all the survivors ended up here so this has been a real treat to see. Especially love your theory on how the shadows likely feed off of the emotional strife and mental distress of some of the survivors, actually fits very well as a legit explaination for some of the characters.
:D Thanks!!
6:03 its lunar magic, the moon alignment says the moon thing calls lf the moon's ability to curse him
10:10 Its also posible that he stays here to help the rest escape. I dont think him being able to rescue survivors is true cause it is shown in his animatic and many of his quotes that he has good heart so if he could save others he would probably do so.
wortox being able to save the survivors doesnt automatically make them a jerk - it could just be that no one in the constant has ever thought about it being an option
Imagine that. Nobody just... asked him if he could rescue them. He's just like "yeah sure"
@@BiddoBamss he cant soulhop anybody even if you tried to, if anyone could get all the survivors out of there it would be wanda
wortox meanwhile is just sticking around partly for his own amusement and partly to help the other survivors as he's shown to be quite nice despite being a little troll
Considering that Wortox seems to be far more aware of how The Constant actually works than we'd think, I theorize that the reason he doesn't try saving the survivors is because he knows that THEY would not let him get away with that and he's scare of what the consequences would be.
That or his curse/teleporting powers would actually do some serious damage to the survivors, so he just physically can't help them.
@@thisaccountisnotinuse He can move things from the constant to outside tho, he did that in the terraria update.
Just want to let you know that if you make a time line of when the survivors were taken, Wilson was presumably the LAST one taken, not the first! (As he was taken in 1921) Though you probably mean first as in “first to be playable”
I personally think Wes and Wigfrid were the first ones taken (as Wes was taken when Maxwell tried to get revenge on the guy who wronged him, and I feel as if Maxwell would try to take revenge pretty early on..) and Wigfrid was reading a newspaper about the San Fransisco earthquake which happened in 1906, meaning she was probably taken somewhere around that time
Willson was the easy prey, he had a waxolla radio (probably the og one to boot) and he was capqble enough to open up a portal to constant.
He might have been one of the first survivours to arive by constant time.
WX-78 falls backwards into the portal. Not a comon way to enter a new place.
Willow worked for shadows in exchange for a new beggining i think. She likes being in the constant.
Wicker knew too much.
Wolfgang was stated to seek maxwell himself. For the power of shadow magic. (His describtion)
Wendy... well with her it COULD be the shadows , concidering ragtime.
But as we see bargains are the maxwell's main way of getting people in.
I belive that while sittong atop the nightmare throne maxwell had some form of agency.
I belive that he was always acting on his own , or otherwise why would shadows get tired of him , and in wich regard? Charly is a vessel for shadows and gosh , we See how it affects her.
At least those are my thoughts.
Weird thing: winona enteres constant BEFORE charly's reign. Maybe even when wagstaff got there. (Around the time of hamlet)
In the animated short charly is still split in half.)
Also , she suspects wagstaff maybe... but she never stated that she blames him for anything outright. We might overestimate her knowledge.
Also maxwell might have been trying to amuse himself by taking the most colorfull cast.
Maxwell probably wanted his own sitcom.
@@cononsberg6919 oh , now i just want to recreate f.i.e.n.d.s. on a public server)
Also it probably was quite a lot of fun , watching them all strugle , again and again , for him.
Especialy with his love for desteuction.
more dont starve lore LETS GO!
:D
Imagine Wurt, Wortox, Wormwood, and Wilba on earth. 🤔
Considering WX's distinct hatred of Wagstaff [well... WX hates everyone but he seems to hate Wagstaff alot more then everyone else] it seems likely Wagstaff transporting him to the Constant was not under WX's consent...
Wilson's probally here because hes has a conncetion to Wagstaff
oh no ... Wormwood is steven universe character lol
I always thought that all the survs that maxwell got into the constant were people he thought could beat the constant and free him, except for wes and wx87
I thought I’d throw my two cents onto why the non-DST characters are in the Constant. Wilba was obviously just born there and Wagstaff isn’t *really* there so they don’t count. My theory on Walani’s presence comes from various lines of dialogue she has. Inspecting things such as the Cutlass or Captain’s Hat heavily implies she used to a be a pirate. And her examine quote for specifically the Burnt Piratehatinator (not burnt anything else) is “Fire always wins in the end.” With these pieces of dialogue, my theory is that whatever pirate ship Walani was on burst into flames and she tried desperately to escape, and since the Constant loves desperate people, it promised to save her by pulling her in. For Wilbur, I also have a theory. Considering his role as “the monkey king” and how we find him alone and adrift at sea when unlocking him, I theorize that perhaps he was the original king of Moon Quay, before being overthrown by the current Queen and sent to sea. Wheeler’s an explorer with a desire to chart the uncharted, so I think for her the Constant simply saw her and said “hey if you get trapped in this hell you’ll be able to explore forever” and she took the deal. As for Woodlegs… I have no idea. He hardly feels like a real person compared to the others sometimes since all he is is “funny pirate man”. It however may be a possibility that if my Walani theory is correct, Woodlegs could also have been on that ship. While everyone else if very clearly from the early 1900s, both Woodlegs and Walani have lines for items that imply they may be from a later point in time (Walani and Woodlegs are the only two characters (besides Wickerbottom) to recognize the Orange Soda can and Woodlegs mentioning his mom used to make him frozen waffles) so perhaps there’s a connection there.
Maxwell hate people with W name
Too be honest, I don't think Wes was taken by pure acident. I think shadows were planning to take him form the start. The crows in his animated short chased him into the portal, destroying Maxwells plan.
wasgtaf VS Maxwell gaming
Old man VS Old man
not the gtaf
wagstaff x maxwell gaming
Wonkey is also in the content, but it isn't really a person and even if it is it was born here anyway
I've heard a theory that Wes wasn't exactly there by accident, but crows that chased him to this exact location are pawns of Them, since those Crows are the same as in Constant
I honestly like this theory. But also one of Maxwells quotes to the crows is, “I don’t know how they got here.” So I always thought Wes accidentally brought the crows in and then they multiplied.
But I think the theory might still be plausible.
WAGSTAFF DON’T STARVE
singular form of wagstaves
Warly did not deserve this
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ahsgh bigbams..,,,
haven't watched yet but thumbnail is fire as always🔥
:D Thank you!
woodie was chosen so that he could marry warly hope this helps
What? What happen with lucy then?
Real THEY were just trying to set those two up 👏
starcrossed lovers trapped in constant embrace...
Two eyes of a same person.
Them.
Not as in "a lot of them".
As in "not him , nor her , nor it."
Wanda in the constant for only a lifetime?
Please, even if you could die she'd stay alive a bit longer than that
just subbed, love ur vids
Runescape music in the background
funi goober land
god sending his silliest soldiers
@@BiddoBamss goobiest goobers union
As a wx main who also played the original DS, nuh uh & I refuse to contribute any knowledge
Woodie was chosen because the Treeguards were a mistake
but some charictors like warly are draged into the shipwrecked not constant? so they have a different reson.
Hey Biddo, do you animate?
A bunch of my discord friends and I are making a DST horror film, but we have a problem: we don’t have an animator yet.
I’m asking here because I have no idea where else to put this.
Is anyone in here interested in helping my guys out?
it wouldve been cool to see the shipwrecked characters, even if they arent in dst
i dont think WX entered willingly, in the short where they regain their memories we see the falling in happen after consistant arguing and confrontation about whatever they worked on, and ingame they react very aggresively to wagstaff. wagstaff pushed them in to get rid of them for insubordination because of their disagreement.
I am wondering why witherstone got chosen I know that he would've been put in the constant in the 1st place
It's because their names start with w
Ya forgor to talk about the dlc specific characters like Wilba and that one surfer character otherwise good vid 👍
I debated including those characters but objected since the video is DST focused, but for a video like this I really should have! Lightning round:
Wilba: Born and raised in the constant.
Woodlegs: Probably somehow marooned there thanks to some shadow nonsense, easily to manipulate and crazy as heck.
Walani: No idea! Possibly way too relaxed and okay with everything going on.
Wheeler: Same story as Woodlegs, but replace the sea with the sky! Maxwell probably hit her with the "How about I give you a whole new world to explore"
Wilbur: monkey :)
Wagstaff: That video is currently rendering right now :)
*you should continue your wurt playthrough series NOW*
I have plans for that soon! Don't you worry :) well, soon in a relative sense. It's not gone, if that's what you're worried about!
the bg clip at 1:47 hurts my soul