Servicing Our Lathe for the FIRST TIME! | Workshop Machinery
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2023
- This is the very first time in 6 years that we are doing a major service on our “frontline” lathe. We have been noticing a noise coming out of the back of the headstock so we’re going to open it up and see what we find! This is a Taiwanese built MetalMaster TM-26120G Centre Lathe that we purchased from Hare & Forbes Machinery House, it is very good quality and we’ve not had any problems with it but thought it was time to do some maintenance. We show the process of how to change out all the V-belts, adjust the brake and replace the oil in the headstock and feed box. We also do some preventative maintenance by cleaning the bed, topping up the oil in the ball oilers, topping up the coolant and checking the level of the lathe.
This lathe is a Hafco TM-26120G Centre Lathe from Hare & Forbes MachineryHouse @Machineryhouse1930
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Considering this lathe is one of our most used bits of workshop machinery it was good to get this done. Were you surprised with how it all looked? And yes, Homey is STILL working on that huge bone 😂👍
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The clarity of the oil and the fit + finish of the gears just tells us that it is a high quality bit of kit. It might not be a "forever" bit of kit but is sure isn't a short term bit either.
That dog don't hunt. But he is quite a character
I hate that goddamn blue paint they put on every piece of equipment I usually strip it off and apply some black hammered metal paint personal preference but i think it looks better.
I was surprised at how much darker the second lot of oil to be drained was in comparison with the Head Stock oil. Cutting fluid even evaporates down here in Melbourne and if it is not topped up with water it can really gum up the piping and pump.
A Legend said, "when you know what you're doing, shit's easy". Thanks, Kurtis, for this quote.
😂👊 feel free to use it anytime lol
Golden quote, wrote it down)))
When you are good, you make it look easy.
@@gorillaau, but you also need someone like Karen who can edit.
@@avnishdhiman16 That's true. Behind every video star, there is a great camera operator and editor.
There is no reason to be upset at 6 years of heavy use out of those belts. That is an absolutely fantastic performance.
Very true, too bad these lathes don't have an hour counter because there's probably quite a few hours on it
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering You could have set up a stop clock and turned it on every time you used it to have hours counted. Just extra work for no real purpose though.
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering
Add an hour counter , the power supplied through " DRO power supply "
or
" lathe main on / off switch power supply "
Then a note book , ( video ) journal of when it was serviced , date , hours , comments "
An approximate hour counter eg the mains power is on but the machine isn't in action ( measurements are being taken ....... ) still puts it in service o'clock time
Thanks for reading
@@boboften9952 You probably want to track how many hours the spindle motor has been running. Tap one of the motor windings and monitor that.
Get a rev counter from an old Porsche, and fit that to the motor somewhere. Then you will really know how much work the lathe has done 🤣.
That trick for draining the oil is BRILLIANT! I would not have come up with that idea in a million years.
glad you liked that 👍👍
I would love to know where you got the drain neck. I could do with a variety of sizes to make my work life easier.
I was thinking degrease below and fashion up a small duct tape drain to bring the oil away from the surface. Then a funnel or cut drinks bottle could have been the “bush fix”. Great job as always though.🇬🇧
@@benharris9175 Look up "Loc-Line" is what I know the product as.
@@benharris9175 It looked to me that Curtis used one of the lathes flexible 1/4” coolant hoses. I was curious and found Amazon has some listed under the Estink brand different styles but had one with 1/4” male thread fitting some include a cock valve.
I worked in a machine shop at a shipyard. Their idea of preventive maintenance was to change oil once a year, That's all. And then they used the same oil in all the machines regardless of what the manufacturer suggested. Needless to say, we had a lot of breakdowns. And we couldn't convince management why.
reason # 579 why I like to work by myself 😂
Hmmm is this said yard in Virginia 🤣 if so I know your pain
I was a trucker and management kept telling us that the 5th wheel that didn't always lock the trailer in would be O.K. We lost one on the Ventura freeway- trailer sliding along on its nose... ain't bean-counters great?
Friend of mine works at the former SEASPAN works yard in North Vancouver which is now part of western Marine Group. When it was just SEASPAN, they did a lot of preventative maintenance. They made sure bearings got changed out on shafts before they fail and caused major interruption. Nowadays, Western Marine Group tends to run things until they fail causing problems and or injuries.
When you operate the treadle to stop the lathe, does it automatically shut off with a magnetic switch whe
the power is cut?
I worked at a steam turbine manufacturer to write up lubrication procedures for the operators and oilmen to follow. We supplied all the recommended lubricants and the right tools to add or apply them. All the lubrication points were color coded along with the barrels of lubricants. It was pretty slick, pardon the pun.
You ought to put an old work boot on one end of that giant bone and get a picture of Homey working on the combo. Posting that up front should guarantee shop security.
In this week's edition of please the algorithm and something original. Let's all name out favourite outtake.
Mine's probaby Kurtis' joy at finding out the frequency of Brisbane bound trains was set to increase
We noticed the increase in trains during peak hour!
LMAO! The closed captions when Homeless was going to town is literally "[nom nom]" and "[chomp chomp]"
Absolutely crushing it with a "filler" episode. Thanks for taking us on the ride. 2023 is going to be the game-changer year for you guys I believe.
Nice images, what a bone !!! Having spent 25 years in the lubricants industry, all the successful businesses I know , all believed in scheduled maintenance, my favourite quote is, oil is cheaper than metal parts . Well done
Great point!
As a jackleg handyman who's never operated a big metal lathe, I do love these videos where we get to see inside the machines and how they work (and the explanation of little details that never would have occurred to me). Thanks!
Sunday night in the 70's I would be sat in the kitchen listening to the UK top 40 chewing on the beef bone and raking out the marrow a happy boy. I'm jealous
Respect from the UK
Cheers mate! You're right on time
Thank you for your constant commitment to share your talents and skill, and your explanation of what and why you do it. I hope your week is successful and profitable. Hi Karen and Homie!!
hey mate thanks for the wonderful comment!
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering indeed! Thanks for reminding us we all need to take a holiday and have some fun.
Despite what looked to be a boring video it was, in fact, very interesting. Well done as always. That sure is a great bone for Homeless!
Glad you enjoyed it
what a commitment, even when you're out for a week and cannot make a video, You still have backup videos for us to enjoy
This is why I am never surprised by Kurtis knowledge!
100% agree... Machine safety is the Operator's responsibility...
Back as a 1st year apprentice in the early 70s we used lathes built in the 1920s. At the end of each day we cleaned all the machines from top to bottom and turned off all the auto oilers. The machines were inspected and our instructors could find the tiniest speck anywhere. Each fault cost 10 cents, doesn’t sound much but when you’re getting $21.80 a week, yeah it adds up. Full testing was once a week and the lathes, although quite old measured between 3 and 5 thou over 4ft. Not too bad for apprentices and old machines.
Cheers.
I like maintenance videos on your equipment, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching good to know the video was enjoyed!
It never ceases to amaze me, how patient you are with each other and how well you get along. It's a rare chemistry and I hope you know how fortunate you are to have found each other. Not taking yourself too seriously is key, and you guys always seem to have a blast together which makes your videos even more enjoyable (especially in the outtakes 😂). Sappy bullshit aside, this is a great example of routine maintenance and what to look for when the hours start building up on your machines. As always, I look forward to the next video. Cheers, guys!! 🍻
Homeless keeps them inline 😂😂😂
This is well said, and very well deserved. You guys are heartwarming to watch.
Have a happy weekend you 3.........hope the heat does not get you down this weekend...., cheers from Florida the 'Other Sunshine State'....Paulie
Hey mate we've had a turn in the weather and been getting quite a bit of rain!
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering I have been watching your weather here......stay dry....as in Driza-Bone....I love mine that I bought in Roma when I was in Queensland.....take care, Paul
Halfway through the video I realized that this is the kind of stuff that no one really sees and so it’s just another reason why I really like you all and the work you do to give us an insight into your world. Thank you!!
I whole heartedly agree with Kurtis. A chuck guard on a lathe is more often than not a hindrance rather than a beneficial item. Every lathe I have ever used never has the chuck guard fitted and I feel that it is safer that way. You are always responsible for your own safety as well.
Respect to you mate. There's probably other guards out there that offer better safety/protection but I reckon if you need one on there you shouldn't be using a lathe by yourself 😅
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering so well put sir
@@KyleB_RCR8 Agreed.. I never take my hand off the chuck key and thats good enough protection for me.
Same thing with the spring on the chuck key to eject it from the chuck if you let go of it. If you are trained to put the key in a safe home everytime then it's not necessary.
@@gorillaau The best safety interlock I've ever seen was a Chinesium lathe a mate has. Chuck key HAS to be in its holder, or the motor won't start. Full stop.
Sure he could get around it (he has a lathe, after all) but why would you?
Judging from the oil and the clean insides, that lathe must have a operator with a nice touch. 🤩
That's what I thought as well. If there were others using this machine this might not be the color of the oil. He did quite a through service also.
Service is always a good thing to get done b4 it makes you.
Definitely!
For the modern disposable world, that lathe looks to be of very high quality!
A surpisingly enjoyable video!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed it
That's what I was wondering, if it was a Chinese or Taiwan knockoff. Originally from Cincinnati. My lathe was made in Britain in ww1.
That "quick cleanup" during the service is a great item to always include - you can't know if a belt is shedding or oil is leaking if these enclosures are constantly full of debris, oil, coolant etc. Great video
A sign of a high quality worker is the care taken towards their tools. ALWAYS been curious how that machine worked love the videos guys!
When you earn your money with them, neglect is an extra preventable cost
@@DugatDizzyLizzys Fair in every way there.
Thanks for another great video. I always wondered what was in the head stock, it's "just" a transmission! ;) don't know why that's a surprise. Homey seemed just a bit awestruck for bit with that monster bone! LOL! Thanks!
Gday Kurtis and Karen, that’s a good idea using the lokline for draining the oil, direct drive has definitely got its advantages over hydraulic drive, I changed the oil in the headstock of mine when I first got it and it’s still clean and never used any yet, that was an awesome gift for homey to, have a great weekend, cheers
hey mate yeah I haven't seen anyone using a lokline before, simple but effective and not a big fucken mess like i've seen others make 😂
There was one the other week that made a shit load of mess then said it was a design fault
Contact Kazakhstan! Curtis not only knows how to operate the machines professionally, but also knows exactly how they work!!! What once again tells us all about his professionalism !!! I am impressed ! And this video once again plunged us into the New Year feeling. Thank you very much, Curtis! Forever yours, Sergey :)
I'm probably strange but I get a lot of satisfaction doing maintenance like you just did. A lot of people think it's boring but to me it's extending the life of the piece. I was sad when the removed all the grease zerks from cars.
Great video guys... They are looking more professional every time 👍
Servicing equipment is my favourite job to do at the end of the year.
If you look after your equipment, it'll look after you.
Hey mate thanks for taking time to watch and comment!
There is probably something therapeutic also. Inspecting and replacing parts, admiring some of the design decisions, and cursing some others. Hopefully the swear jar wasn't fed too often.
@@CuttingEdgeEngineeringhow long did it take homie to demolish that massive bone?
@@CuttingEdgeEngineeringwhat brand is your hex key set?
I actually put a little bit of clay putty on the way wipers when i do a general cleanup. Not only does it protect the wiper from infeed of schmutz, but it also grabs any existing swarf and stuff out of the felt on its way out. Old man's trick i got learned on a few years back.
I love those videos where Kurtis is explaining so much!
IF I was a bit closer I'd offer to Blast and Repaint the foot brake a nice Safety Yellow for ya ....... I bought a really OLD Pexto Stomp Shear and after a Garnet Blast and Safety Green/Yellow repaint it looks like a new machine in my little shop,.... and It just looks good ! ........ sometime it's the little things that stand out 🤔,... ALWAYS great to watch a morning shop video Kurtis. 👍👍👍👍
Slideway 68 is great stuff. Slideway 69 is the flavored version.
It's great seeing you giving this machine the love it deserves 🤗
CEE, I'm an operator for a chocolate factory and i agree with you completly. "...the safety around this lathe [2 ton open grinder for me] is a 100% MY RESPONSIBILITY..." this is something many workers nowadays don't get. It's something every worker should keep in mind with any machine.
If only Alec Baldwin had that attitude regarding the tools of his trade
Give Willy Wonka my best.
there's something incredibly therapeutic about servicing/cleaning a machine (when it's not an urgent thing) thanks for the informative content guys. It's great to see that you even address the jobs you don't need to worry about, and point out what would be done if it were a pressing issue.
side note 4:42 just a lil bit dead, should get another 12 years out of it no sweat (b^-^)b
Good maintenance is very important. Few people know this better than Kurtis.
Thank you and as usual: Have a great 'effing weekend, everybody!
Nice maintenance Curtis. The only thing I miss is a refractometer for measuring the oil percentage in the coolant 😊.
Great service mate. The lathes at work dont get any of the love you give...
Curtis, I worked in hydraulics and HVAC for years, and in both of these fields we often had to replace multiple sets of belts. When ever possible, it is important to use "matched" sets instead of 4 individual belts of the same length.
Your attention to detail here is pretty incredible. Just little things that might not seem like a big deal are areas of focus for you. Really enjoy your content!!
Love your videos A minor point: Where you have a belt drive that uses several belts in parallel you should get what's called a "Matched Set" of belts rather than just several of the same size. In a matched set the manufacturer ensures that all belts are exactly the same length thereby ensuring the load is evenlt distributed across the set.
good point mate thanks for the comment!
There are sets where the belts are a single unit. They are not cut apart after manufacture. Definitely a matched set.
That was interesting Kurtis! Cheers.
Something you might look into is a 4-V belt which I'm sure you know is 4 V belts made into one. Otherwise, you need to have all four belts "matched" (they're marked). Grab four at random off the rack and there can be a BIG difference between them! 5 years as a Sales Engineer for (among many other things) Mechanical Power Transmission. 😁
Wouldn't they all stretch to the same after an hour or two?
I realize that manufacturing tolerances don't guarantee anything, but ....
You have not been able to buy matched belts for a long while, due to them being computer controlled manufacture, at least that's what Gates belts say.
@@stevecarlisle3323 Well, I admit it's been a LONG time since I was in the business. Maybe the belts are more uniform now, but belts used to have match marks on them for a reason...
Fascinating how clean the gearbox was after six years without maintenance.
Curtis, you were either born to be a man of uncompromising meticulous detail, or you were well trained to this. Either way, it is comforting to see. I would trust you with any work and never lose a minute of sleep wondering whether it was done right. Thank you for being on RUclips. Also, a shout out to the giggler and Homie for their participation.
Karen seems to be very knowledgeable about the work you are doing. I'd love to see her doing a job or 2 on one of your machines with Kurtis filming it.
And then -Karl- Kurtis gets to do the editing and everything else.
I’ll bet that she would do a pretty good job
There’s nothing to stop her except she might think oh I can’t I’m just a girl & that’s “brown stuff “
BOOM
Wouldn’t mind more machine videos like this 😊
So much better than those plastic toys :) Woo hoo you were lucky with that belt adjustment, just got there. Great overview
On those multiple belt units, I used to try and align all the labels prior to startup to use as an indicator next time the drive was serviced again, just for curious knowledge. Enjoyed the video as much as Homey enjoyed that Dino bone, cheers!
love how homless is so patient and comic on his package opening scenes , he is so uplifting ❤❤❤
That white lithium grease you put into the tool post always reminds me of oil that has had water get into it!
Blue shirt Kurtis doing a great job while Orange shirt Kurtis is out. Maybe keep him around for a few more videos!
I always enjoy your videos. Best on RUclips
Thank you very much!
The work that goes on behind the scenes makes the paid work possible. Good investment of time and money in that job. And having the confidence in a machine that is properly maintained cannot be underestimated.
G'day Kurtis, Karen and Homey. Hope your week on the job site went well.
Kurtis is on the road just on his way back, got the weekend traffic to deal with so will take him another hour 🥴
@@CuttingEdgeEngineeringG'day Karen
I love the series (service), more of it, Kurtis please more of it. Greetings from Germany😁
5:27 - Ah c'mon, still a few hundred hours left in 'er! 😅
(Loved Homey's nomming)
I bloody love that dog. He's amazing.
Great video guys! It's so nice to see someone who takes care of their machines (tools). I've seen so many guys who don't take care of their equipment, and then bitch when it's broken or not working correctly! Never could understand that. Keep up the fantastic work that you both do!(Homie too!) I'm a big fan from Missouri! Peace ✌️!
7:10 love the domestic door hinges on the pulley cover. Might they even be brass - might they even be OEM
hey mate yes the are brass and original
Great vid. Love your out takes. Wife does a great job.
Hey mate, the wife said to thank you so much! She works super hard, especially on those outtakes! Cheers mate.
Ok, stray thought. When he was adjusting the level of the middle feet, I was thinking "Come on, make the noise! *beep!* " :D
Gotta be doing something right to have a range of work! Hope you had a good time on site.
Buenos días, siempre es un gusto ver cada uno de sus interesantes videos, y siempre estay atento para ver su siguiente entretenido y divertido video.
El trabajo de Karen es excelente y se agradece escuchar su sonrisa.
Reciban un abrazo.
This video made my inner clean-freak happy. :]
It doesn't hurt to do an overall inspection to catch a problem before it happens. Fresh oil helps also. Lubricity, the heart of an oil. Ah, the Safety Officer has a bone to fit his size and strength.👍😁 Excellent job of maintenance and filming. You guys are top notch. 👍
Absolute pure joy with that bone 😁👍
Приятно смотреть за работой человека, который разбирается и понимает что и для чего оборудовании. Умеет его правильно применять, обслужить, отремонтировать и модернизировать!
Tap. I haven't heard that thing called that in Texas for many years. No, it's not used to make threads😂
The out takes channeling your inner Frank Spencer! And Betty !!
The new blue top looks fantastic. Very smart.
I'm a HUGE advocate for maintaining and caring for my tools and equipment. Like ADHD type care. What ever I have I worked hard for and I'm not rich. SO I am thankful for what I have and need it to last as long as possible. Same with my whole shop. I keep it squeeky clean. Shoot now that I think of it, I am a clean freak. cause i don't touch a project that's dirty and greasy without cleaning it extensivly first, pressure washing etc.
I'm the same, Rob. Can't stand working on anything filthy. I clean it first and THEN I work on it! And like you, I take care of my tools. I'm not rich either, I'm 75 years old, and my tools have to last till I drop dead! lol You can eat off my work bench, that's how clean I keep my shop! :)
nice to see you take care of your equipment. doing a service like that is simply a good way to keep equipment running longer, even if it isn't built like the old stuff.
where i work they've only recently replaced a 30000 tn press from WWII era just because tooling had already rebuilt everything on it they could to keep it going. took 80 years though.
I'm surprised it wore out so quickly. Things were BUILT back then.
** Well now, that's not supposed to be that way.
Beautiful simplicity on this machinery
Didn't know you still had dinosaurs in oz lol ace vid thanks
This is a very interesting video Kurtis, thank you for the tour around the front line machine. Videoing and Editing improving all the Time Giggler! Homey has a Brontosaurus Leg bone to exercise his jaws on, good work Homey! Thank you Kurtis, Giggler, and Homey!
Hi Kurtis and Karen. I hope that you got the gift I sent in January. I posted it in a hurry while on the Gold Coast. It was a little clock mounted in a piston rod. Keep up the good work guys, love the weekly vids.
hey mate when you get a chance could you shoot us a message so Karen can look into that, I don't think we received your package 🤔 Email info@cuttingedgeengineering.com.au
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering email sent.
Thanx for the vid, great to learn the operation and maintenance of the lathes. Cheers.
good to see someone looking after their machinery.👍👍👍
He'd have been a bit heavy on the steers carting that bone...I suppose it's a good counter weight for his d11 ripper shank
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Awesome as Always.. Great content...
Thanks again!
You do an amazing job of teaching us. Thank you.
Thank you for lining up all the markings on the new belts.
Really interesting to see thanks mate. Being your 1st major purchase for the business bet you take great care of it. 6yr oil looked brand new. Hope the onsite week went good. 👍👍🍻🍻
A headstock that goes from drained to full on one convenient container of oil, what a time to be alive. Homey finish that Flintstones bone off yet? 😄
they really thought things through when designing this machine 😂 Homey is still working on the bone!
Thank you team. That is a beautiful machine.❤❤❤
Enjoy watching your jobs, appreciate the way things are done right as well as above and beyond…! Cheers SteveK
Ótimo trabalho, uma manutenção preventiva é sempre importante
Dang. My pups would LOVE that bone! Lucky Homey!
such a spoilt doggo!
Perfect example of loving your machine and it'll reward you. Thanks for the content guys!
Thank you for the tour of the servicing of your machine I appreciate it more now !😊
I have the little brother to this lathe (AL-335) from H & F, and can confirm that they are pretty good value for money. I only turn things for bikes, not excavators, so can get away with a smaller one :) I wouldn't mind a Colchester tho' . . . .
He's an Angel
Kurtis or Homeless? 🤣
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering 😂🤣 Both
EVERYTIME I watch one of your videos; I learn something new. Respect. Thank you.
I was so surprised at how clean the oil was in that. Yet another interesting video from you two. Thank you the information.