Testing the UFC's Illegal Moves
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2022
- I Tested out some of the UFC's Banned Moves... they hurt, but should they be illegal?!
Big thanks to @ChrisRaynorMD for the science, and @WonderboyMMA and @KevinLeeVlog for beating me up! Give them a subscribe if you don't mind! 
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I must applaud you describing the UFC fighter as a "reverse doctor"
Professionally unhealthy
Zabit Magomedsharipov has been through the whole spectrum
Even the real doctor was awesome lol.
They can perform vasectomies, liver transplants, ACL grafts, and lobotomies
Always gotta get one jab in Icy Mike 😂
Enjoyed this "collab" with you @Sensei Seth. Thanks for having me! 🙏🏿💪🏿
! Awesome analysis!
Thank you kindly!
You are awesome Dr. Raynor! I actually found your channel through Garand thumb!
Hey doc, good job. Now you need to turn Seth into an Astartes
I’m glad to see the collab with some other folks who watch. I really enjoy your videos
It was amusing and somewhat surreal seeing 3 guys whaling on another's groin with pool noodles. I genuinely think, as fellow men, they just couldn't bring themselves to hit you that hard there haha...
They should bring angry ex for proper test.
@@ShadowManceri 😂😂😂
The clown music really was the icing on this sweaty cake 🎂🍰
Surreal? Is that why me and my friends get all those weird looks at the local pool?
NOT, if you are in jackass
I love how Wonderboy constantly apologized for using the illegal techniques (even though that was the purpose of the video), but Sweet T absolutely relished the task, haha.
Idk Stephen was pretty interested in the groin kick lol
@@SenseiSeth Fair point. Guys named Stephen are the worst!
@@SenseiSeth it makes sense he is a karate guy, for self defense karate they do tell you to go for the bollz if you have to. Besides you are testing yourself if you can kick precise between the legs. I think that WB with illegal moves allowed would be an assassin. But idk grapplers seem even more scary with the bites & finger snapping.
The duality of man.
@@SenseiSeth i learned more about health in this than health class
thanks Spongebob
I came right after watching the RUclips short ong 😂
Lol same
Lmao same
Fr
Omg me tooo😂
He landed 16 eye pokes with you specifically expecting and trying to defend against an eye poke. Now imagine someone not expecting it and being hit full force with a finger tip drive or a spear hand strike to the eye socket/ ocular cavity.
I don't want to imagine it.
@@aidanation562 your Mr bubz profile pic is the perfect reaction image to this comment, thank you for the (unintentional) laugh
Thanks SpongeBob for recommending this
Fr lmao
"Groin goblins" legit made me laugh hard. Love this huge collaboration too, freaking awesome, thank you.
My thoughts exactly lmao
Petition to name pro fighters who are notorious for groin shots "groin goblins"
Wonder boy and co smacking your Nuts repeatedly with Pool Noodles was hilarious. Someone should crop that part and repost without context
I’ll post it on IG soon with no context, great idea lol
This is basically a list of the best moves to use to defend yourself in a street fight
No.
Awesome Sensei Seth. This was a cool collaboration, not just with marital art RUclipsrs, but with Dr. Chris too. We have a lot of fun with martial arts but at the end of day these techniques are meant to harm people.
That scream to test out the power of oil check. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Illegal moves" are illegal because they work too well
Not all of them. Eye poke will destroy your finger in most cases, not your enemy's eye.
Thanks spongebob
NO WAY
bro and i saw the same video
This might be the most disturbing video you’ve made to date while still being massively entertaining and informative.
You got my favorite youtube doctor to collab with you guys - this is a real Halloween miracle. Awesome stuff as usual.
7:45, this is probably the reason why they ban fence grab. You're much bigger and it was almost impossible for you to take him down. Imagine if they were the same size, just a moment grab can recover from any takedowns.
Ironically while it's a perfect reason to keep it, the original reason they made it illegal is different. In the early UFC the rules were a bit more lax and in one fight Tank Abbott against Paul Varelans is what made the rule change. ruclips.net/video/SgRKoHZ-J18/видео.html Here if you want to watch it yourself, can't see it very well in this but at one point Tank had Varelans up against the cage and was using the cage to rake the face of Varelans. The fight ends with Tank's knee on Varelan's face and neck, and pulling on the cage for extra leverage to sink the submission in more. He uses the cage as a weapon extensively enough the announcers are talking about it in the video.
fence grabbing should be automatic 1 point deduction. That one take down attempt that was stuffed by it could be a massive game changer and people only gets a warning
imagine him smashingon his arms trying to get him to come off - dangerous
the groin shots may not be easy to pull off but it does happen and sometimes people need a full minute to recover thats pretty impactful
That eye poke seminar is basically what a Jon Jones fight looks like
Jon jones regular sparring in training camp
@@user-cr2ig3xv4y 🤣🤣🤣
I do wonder if the 12-6 elbow would be more powerful from a mount position as well. In the test you guys did, you can really sink your entire bodyweight into it, which you could not do as much while in your knees.
That would be interesting. I think the test they did was perfectly valid though because it is a decent simulation of stuffing a takedown, and I think that's the worse case because then a 12-6 elbow is really likely to land on the back of the head. I'd be curious to see what the power was like with grapevines from the mount or high mount which are both decent for keeping position while freeing up the hands.
Yes the downward elbow, goes better with body mechanics, your shoulder is meant to go up and down easier then rotating. Try the move and you’ll feel that your arms gets more stukck in the “normal” elbow position
12-6 elbows from a full mount could indeed be catastrophic. Extensive facial fractures would be possible. All around bad news.
I've heard it can be effective against a tackle aimed below the ribs.
@@ChrisRaynorMD What would a 12-6 elbow do against the kidneys or organs hit through the back
Big props to you for doing this, entertaining video as always. As a note, a lot of the eye pokes I see in UFC fights seem to be defensive accidents, that is the fighter tries to parry and accidentally pokes someone in the eye who's coming forward.
Great expertise by Dr. Raynor. Loved, how entertaining he wraped the infos :)
This was an awesome video from start to finish! the additional collab with doc Chris was a very sweet cherry on top as well.
I’m here because of SpongeBob.
same
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One thing that always gets me is in these types of tests, eye pokes are just treated like finger punches. There are so many more ways you can get someone in the eye. An eye poke doesn't require the same force as a punch to be effective, so you can still deal damage in positions where punches would not be effective (i.e. very close quarters).
one of the earliest rules of the UFC was no little joint control which means individual finger breaking, pulling, etc. Bites to the neck or other squishy targets too, etc.
Oh sick, Dr. Chris! Awesome collab, I love that guy’s Grappler Baki breakdowns!
Dr. Chris is so dope I swear I’ve been seeing this guy everywhere
8:54 the moment Sensei Seth realized he forgot the headbutt on the final edit! 😂 Thanks for all the cool videos, cheers
I always think of that crazy tang soo do guy in one of the early ufc fights who caught his opponent in crucifix and then rained about 3 12 - 6 elbows onto him. It was really nasty.
A 12 - 6 on the back of the head is definitely dangerous! Theres also the chance of missing the head and hitting the point where the spine and the skull connect. ☠️
i laughed my ass off with this video!!!!🤣🤣🤣 also amazing collab with Dr.Chris!!👍
Loved Dr Chris on this! Should have him on more often
12 to 6 elbowing is denied by one doctor, who weren't speciliased in any type of fighting, but he still was in this board that was making the rules, he told that he has seen that kind of elbowing destroy ice blocks and that kind of a force used to human head would be too dangerous.
I like you educational/explorational style videos! Great!
Great random video on my feed. Glad to see Dr. Raynor also!! The nut shot segment had me dying. 😂😂
Always out of the box ideas in this chanel, love it. Small note, the eye poke was used on a standing situation, I think this move if it was not illegal, would be more of a use in a submission situation when eyes are in a closer reach and could reverse the situation
Really appreciate everybody's efforts in this video. Great job, guys
Seth is a secret master of Iron Ball Kempo
The secret is now out.
Maaaaaaan I have tears from laughing, there are so many gems in this video, I loved the awkward hand holding moment with wonderboy in the beginning xD !!!!!!!!
Kevin Lee is a great guy you should keep bringing him to more and more videos
Sensei Seth pausing and looking at the camera when doc said testicular rupture was as though his life flashed before his eyes lol I grew up with brothers and that is a no no lol. Overall great video guys! Love the collabs!
If kicks to the balls are treated just like any other technique, - meaning set up with punches, feints,
used as part of combos - and not an "alleged instant win" (as it was shown here), - then their effects
can go pretty far. Ranging from a TKO to an opportunity window for a KO. Just imagine that beside
all the regular targets, every now and then after a 1-2 - a low kick flies intentionally full-power to the
balls. Or is getting switched into a high kick to the head. Or the other way around. Or both or whatnot.
In the early UFC it was actually legal, but was excluded quickly enough. Headbutts, on the other hand -
were legal for a much longer time. And were used to a devastating effect, when some big dudes
realized that a properly applied in a ground-and-pound scenario - it's like fighting with a weapon.
Mark Kerr, a powerful and formidable wrestler of that time - was well known to put this technique to use,
while it was still legal. In addition to Mark's size, strength and grappling - he truly owned his nickname:
"The Smashing Machine". Most fighters would already be mentally defeated when he entered the cage.
Recovering from yesterday's groin surgery and I felt every one of those noodle slaps while watching this. 🤣
This is a collab I never expected but much appreciated
for the eye pokes, he was only trying to land those and you knew it. if you had to defend against kicks (he didn't attempt a single one) then landing them would probably be significantly easier?
i think that's closer to the point of the rule
This is awesome!! Thanks for making this Sensei Seth
Wasn't expecting the Sensei Seth Dr. Chris crossover, but I very much appreciate it
Nice vid. Eye pokes are primarily nasty when using a long guard with open hands.
Cool to see you collabing with Dr. Chris!
This kinda video is why I subscribe to this channel,chivalrous and informative
It's crazy that it hasn't been that long since Seth was just some awkward dude with 1000 subs on icy Mikes channel. Props to him for grinding and really getting good at this RUclips stuff.
Now he has one of the best martial channels on YT.
thanks for doing these tests it was eyeopening/closing..
I haven't been entertained this much in a long time! 😂
My coach explained that it the 12-6 elbow was stronger because it uses more of the muscles that we use for throwing stuff, and apparently our body is quite adapted to throwing objects.
For the groin shot, as far as my knowledge goes, it's the pelvic floor the what's the real killer. The nuts hurt but to reach the pelvic floor you have to really penetrate. I would say that the noodle test didn't quite do it. I would have Wonderboy knee Sensei Seth right there tbh. (Sorry sensei Seth)
every upload is a bomb- literally 🔥
Nice video though! made me crack up a little bit
"The adrenaline from being attacked by three noodles to my noodle" lost it💀
The quality of your videos is definitely improving! love how you are on Colin and Samir's podcast every week with questions. Keep it up!
Karateka studying Pre-Med here. Awesome video man lol.
12-6 thing. Doing legal elbow you use mostly pectoralis major muscle. Doing illegal elbow you use latissimus dorsi and triceps brahii with together are much stronger than usein pec musle. Also as wonderboy said there might be little less surface on a illegal elbow, depending how you hit your legal elbow.
Nah. Mostly lats.
Remember not in early UFC. An early UFC has Ken Shammrock reallly messing up one of the gracies faces with headbutts.
I wonder if for cage grabbing they're also worried about injuries to the fighter grabbing the cage. ik in climbing you never put your fingers in the bolts as if you fell you're at risk of degloving. it's probably not as bad with the fence but I could still see someone messing up their fingers and potentially having them degloved if a really strong wrestler tried to rip them off the fence and something got caught
In theory you could even lose a finger if it really got stuck somehow and enough force. It's definitely a part of why it's illegal
Dr. Raynor is awesome!! Great collab.!!!
"loss of the testicle" cut to ad. Cliffhanger lol
The addition of Christ in this was excellent.
It's nice to get that perspective as to what the potential dangers of things are. Definitely very informative. (Also he's pretty funny so that adds to it as well)
Thanks for the fight moves bro 🙏
Brilliant video mate respect YNWA brother
Yo Sensei Seth love ur vids wondering what you think of Community center Karate. Is it McDojo for me to go there? It’ll be free/cheap and really close to me but I’m apprehensive because I don’t want to learn bad technique. Please let me know what you think thank you 🙏
Loved the cbt sequence
UFC fighters like JJ don't use eye pokes offensively but rather defensively to stop opponents from charging in and to maintain distance. They are highly effective and responsible for many victories.
needing this for later
This is funny. And also a good test on those, "I would just... *insert thing here* to the guy" self defense videos.
Hello there Seth, being a fan for some time. I have a question for you, wondering if you could answer it, or make a video about it. I'm a pretty tall guy and just started muay thai a few months ago. My problem is that I usually find myself sparring smaller, lighter people, and I don't know how far I can take the sparring session in terms of strength output. Usually, when I spar with a person more or less as big as me I don't have a problem, but in the case of someone lighter, I find myself pulling a lot of punches and I end up not making progress and getting my face full of fingers. As a fellow BIG BOI, I would like to know what precautions you take when sparring with someone lighter and if you could ask someone on the lighter side what their opinion on the matter is, that would be cool too. Thanks a lot, I really love your content, and cheers from Argentina! 🙏
Some of them also do disproportionate amount of damage to the body while in the cage. Back when Some of these moves were allowed the fighters would be fine in the cage but weeks or months later some serious problems started outside of the cage later ending Some of there careers.
Finally some one taking one for the team
This list is literally me fighting bullies when I was 12 🤣
I used to get the meat analog and test biting methods. It's very effective, I learned my incisors hook and tear very well. It's not fight ending and will only get you another window of attack, so best have a followup plan.
I wouldn’t be here if spongebible told me about this
@Sensei Seth
Would you do a video on arm blocks? by that I mean sticky arm blocks? where someone strikes you and you redirect they're strike? It's a concept in kung fu that I dont see often
Kevin Lee has probably done this.
I can hear Big John Mccarthy rolling his eyes about the 12 - 6 elbow from all the way down here in Australia
Kevin Lee looks really different ever since taking a break from the ufc. Good for him!
Holy shit! A collab with Dr. Raynor!? That's freaking awesome!
Easily one of the greatest thumbnails I've ever seen
King of the Streets
“Fine… I’ll do it myself…”
LOL Sensei Seth doing an oilcheck on Kevin at 7:40 hahahaha
LOVE THE CONTENT
Great vid. Didn't enjoy hearing about potential nuts damage.
With the 12 to 6 elbow there's a risk of damage to the spinal column if the attacker is shooting in for a takedown. Technique I was taught when an attacker shoots in for takedown it's knee to the face followed by downward elbow strike usually to the back of the neck then uppercut.
You can't fight irl
@@stormsumeet Meh, I know the difference between your and you're though.
I love when the Three Thompson brothers collaborate
Should've got one of those gopro wrist mounts for a birds eye view of those eye pokes
Gotta admit. The groin shot kind of went as I expected. It sucks, but it's not world ending.
Which is why everytime I see a groin shot that a fighter uses as an opportunity for a 2 minute break I think they're just using the rest.
Most of those groin shots are usually questionable too.
Example: Wonderboy's "groin shot" on Holland
LOL KEVIN THE GROIN GOBLIN FROM BEHIND LMFAO
awesome video sensei seth, these techniques are supposed to do serious harm so it is pretty legit that they are not in the ufc since this is entertainement
I always thought that the eye poke/gouge would be more of an issue when on the ground and grappling. Much easier to slide the fingers over if you already have the opponent in a headlock for example
Bro that groin shot scene killed me 😂😂
I don't know if you edit the videos yourself but i have to say, i really like the editing in these videos, they are funny.
What about a video with different foot wear ? Speed in steal toe boots damage from thick rubber combat boots are sneakers to padded ext ? I think it'd be really interesting to see
I always found that Soft Toed Combat Boots, tend to kick the hardest... The hard rubber edge o' the sole can inflict a lot o' damage...
Thank you for these informations😭😭😭
There are also videos of 12-6 elbows on RUclips. Where it be in promotions that allow them, "promotions" where maybe they fight with no rules in concrete car parks, or on the street and they do seem to hurt ppl quite badly.
I couldn't stop laughing at the groin shot segment.
"Groin goblins"🤣