New vs Old Tesla Model 3! All Changes Are Giving Us Mixed Feelings
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Ryan from @OutofSpecPodcast, Coleton from @OutofSpecDetailing , and Max from @outofspecguide test drive the Tesla Model 3 refresh in the US and compare the RWD loaner model to Ryan's existing RWD from 2023. It's a marked upgrade in some ways, but these existing owners also have some reservations.
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0:00 Welcome
2:09 Walkaround
7:12 Interior
18:05 Driving Impressions
25:20 Non-Tesla Owner Impressions
34:57 No Stalks
36:02 Suspension and Ride
39:57 Exterior View Driving Back
41:39 Minor Trunk Difference
43:05 Final Thoughts In Old Model 3
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"Ok folks, I'm now in the back and I'm still 5'7." That was funny.
As a 2023 model Tesla y performance. watching your video was very impressive, and as for the new model 3, I would probably would never buy one . I think the model y performance is the best as it still has the stork it's still got the body's sensors, and the interior is very spacious . my personal opinion Tesla has lost the plot cutting corners will only result in cutting customers this is my opinion only.from down under Australia. I'm very happy with my model, and what makes it better I have the sexy button control in the console if only tesla did this he would've done better on sales. And leve the storks on the car.no horn that a downner. There are no fog lights, and I believe the sound system has been changed to less quality. It seems that the Chinese are going to leave Tesla for Dead not that I would buy a Chinese car anyway it would be very tempting for a lot of people as Chinese do put a lot more gadgets in and finished quality. not that I think it will last that long. I know my car is made in Shanghai, but it is not Chinese quality.
He’s young, maybe he’s still growing.
He should see a doctor about this. Seems like he should have grown a bit.
@@johndwyer3964 Yea my 2021 Model 3 has all of what you mentioned plus radar and passenger lumbar. I feel like since I bought mine they've been dropping features. But I do like the vehicle without stalks. Would be nice to have everything accessible from the wheel.
Now I’m curious what the Shanghai vs Fremont Model 3 Refresh differences are
The car I drove was awesome!! But the team is not as impressed in this video.
I’m going to book a US test drive this week and see for myself as well ⚡️
Last week I test drove a Highland Model 3 RWD made in Fremont and build quality was fine.
Yeah really seems odd that's my thought too like I said in my comment
No offense, but I think your team was trying too hard figure out any differences. Way too much subjective commentary.
Your team is just comforting their old purchase
Lol😅
@@mhsohel47 Right?! 😅
Not into the lack of stalks, and lack of direction selector or whatever we call it. I'm sure it'll do well, but that and the off center screens are deal killers for me.
@@koryballs the FSD talk is just a coverup, reality is that stalks are an expensive part to manufacture and assemble, so if you save 50$ removing the stalks per car in 200k cars that's 10 million $. It's just Tesla being cheap.
@@koryballs Stalks seem like the type of control a cave man would think of.
@@scottbreseke716which is other way to say they feel natural. Buttons are kind of stupid and can be downright dangerous when driving.
@@TheFPSPowerI still don’t get why not charge this extra 50 usd. I’d pay with no hesitation. It’s all down to Elon’s humour in the end. After reading his biography I am not sure I’d like to get any of his products anymore. There something wrong with him mentally and not in a good but more like a dangerous way.
@@10secondsrule Reports say that aliens don't have stalks in their UFOs. 👽
I just did a test drive on the new Model 3 and thought it was WAY better than my 2019 Model 3. Not sure if these guys got a bad copy or are affected by avoiding the buyer’s remorse associated with owning previous year Model 3s.
Definitely glad I purchased a Model 3 RWD at the end of 2023. Discount and tax credit combined for $10k in savings. This is not a $10k upgrade.
I did the same! Would have spent 11k more on the 2024 with no rebate or inventory discount
🤔 .. how can it be an $10k upgrade when you got a discount on yours. Just say you got a good purchase specially with the discount.
@@youtuberpovI guess in the sense of comparing a 2023 vs a 2024?
What you get for $30k vs what you get with $40k a few months later
@@youtuberpov Basically saying that the new model is not worth $10k more to me than the previous model. 36,260 - 7,500 = 28,760 is what I paid vs 38,990 for the new model.
@@rsmithgi I agree with your math and logic. Sad the new version doesn't qualify for the Fed rebate. 😡
I appreciate the honesty in this video. Refreshing compared to all the hype videos about this car that almost seem like paid advertisements. To be fair, the points of view here are basically drawing comparison to the previous model and expectations based on hype reviews already put out there that raved about the car. Perhaps if you were not comparing to the previous model and just looked at the car on its own, the vibe would be different? Anyway, great, honest video. I recently purchased a 2023 model 3 on inventory sale and the tax credit and was on the fence about actually giving up the $12K of inventory sale and federal tax credit and wait for the refresh. I thought the differences did not warrant losing out on the savings. I'm glad I did but am still looking forward to seeing what Tesla does on the next refresh.
About the glovebox, I've had a 2020 Model 3, and the USB drive for recording the cameras was not provided at the time, instead they allow you to buy your own and insert it in one of the slots inside the center console, under the screen. The open/close glovebox operation where also controled through the screen, but it was only protected in the valet mode. Later, with the moving of the USB key inside the glovebox, added a PIN to open, I guess to protect the videos from intruders or smthg. Probably thinking: "since we already have this protected glovebox, let's make it more of a secret space". SO in the end, there is a purpose for locking the glovebox by default, but it feels like it wasn't the original design.
Yea, but glovebox could’ve been made to open by pressing on it IF car is unlocked with non-Valet profile.
Access control is great, but the button you have to bring UI for on screen is stupid :/
Great comparison. One thing I would have liked to seen is the comparison in the sound quality in the radios.
I like how Tesla pushes the envelope on some things, but losing the stalks is a huge negative for this car, especially the turn signal. It’s just not necessary to make something that’s used constantly this cumbersome. They have had this for years on certain super cars and it has never been something people enjoyed.
They did angle the rear seat cushion more to support your thighs, but this still isn't enough for tall people. The floor is way too high in the rear of a Model 3 for it to be comfortable for most adult passengers. It's hard to feel relaxed when your knees are in your mouth! I really don't know how people say these are good rideshare cars, Model Y fixes this problem entirely. Even my 5'3" wife said the floor is too high to be comfortable in the rear of a Model 3.
In the United States, the average male is about 5 feet 9 inches tall.
I felt the same when I did the test drive. The floor was weirdly high.
My wife’s Nissan Leaf has a deeper floor and feels way more comfortable
The road noise may just be tire differences also that the tires may be under that 500 mile break in time.
Rear seat foot room reduction is likely due to the ventilation system in the front seats.. and is very unfortunate.. the fact the front seats felt higher... could be related to that, or maybe the seat padding is a bit thicker.. maybe the same in the back since Ryan also thought the headroom in back was reduced.
Loss of the stalks is basically a deal killer for me. I drive 250+ miles a day in the city.. Not gonna retrain my brain to use stupid buttons, the shifter is also a downgrade.. you cant go from reverse to drive without coming to a complete stop... and it's a longer reach to the screen than just flicking the shift lever while the steering wheel is still returning back to center.
Best option might be a older model 3 and do a strut upgrade to get a softer ride if that's what you want.
I have a Bolt EV... and think the rear leg / foot and head room is better. Also much easier entry and exit.. Also normal door handles that you don't have to explain to people how they work.
We have a 2019 and 2022 Model 3 LR. We were driving the 2022 out to the Denver area. I sat in the back seat because a local friend was giving my wife directions of where to go. In back seat I became claustrophobic because I couldn't slide my feet under the driver's seat. I'm only 5' 8" and felt boxed in. This refreshed version seems worse. Since I'm not that tall, headroom wasn't an issue. Is the Model Y better at this?
There is a lot more space for your feet in the model Y, as the front seats are on raised rails.
Definitely feels more of a mid generation refresh than a new generation from this review. Was hoping for a bigger leap. In Porsche speak, it’s a Model 3.2
Tesla has said this is a mid gen refresh not an all new
A very excellent refresh if you go by other reviews.
Marques Brownless was impressed for sure. Wondering if out of spec picked up a dud@@777Outrigger
Does anyone know why Tesla hasn't incorporated active noise cancellation to fix interior noise? Seem like a natural for Tesla, unless active noise cancellation just doesn't work.
I believe the S and X have it now.
It's not nearly as effective as you would suspect. That is why so few cars have it and it tends to only be on the very high end German options where they are searching for every n'th of nvh reduction.
Rear screen and ambient lighting an added gimmick considering stalks removed.
yeah I gotta admit while I love the ambient lighting and the additional screen in the back, removing the stalks makes the refresh so unappealing
But you get lightshow and fartsounds!
Interesting on the rear leg room, what has made the back seat reduce its leg room, are the seats cushions and seat backs thicker both front and rear causing the reduced leg room?
Sorry but that guy has thighs the size of tree trunks.
Ventilated seats would do it as far as reducing room for feet under the seat.
The hankook tires make a difference. I upgrade my M3 dual motor and its significantly quieter than the original stock.
New Michelin tires would have also been quieter than the used ones they replaced - it's hard to compare used tires to new ones. New tires with more tread = more flex, and more rubber, which dampens sound more.
@@fiehlsport its possible,,, a friend has low mileage 23 with the Michelins so ill compare.
i do like the hankook tires. From what i understand, the tread life is superior , time will tell
Your expectation really makes a difference. With this price tag, the improvements are good enough.
I've a model 3 long range from 2021. Went to try the new one last week - RWD(Shanghai or Berlin).
It was not even close, the comfort and quiet cabin is like another level. I'm really surprised that your experience is so much different.
Probably different because they're comparing a 2023 to the new one. AFAIk, the 2023 has some improvements in ride quality, etc, as opposed to 2022 & previous.
I drive Bolt EUV and always admire Tesla for their Supercharger network as I live in an apartment. Thank you for honest review of model 3. I can save my money now.
Who pissed colton off before this review, sheesh 😂
Ryan said the car has 5G but the screen was showing LTE, does AT&T just not have 5G in the area of testing? 11:06
I am pretty sure there is no 5G. Many "About" screen screenshots online show an LTE antenna only.
It’s entirely possible the chipset and modem are 5G capable but Tesla for whatever reason (carrier negotiations, spectrum) is still only using LTE bands. Potentially some future proofing here.
@@iMaxPatten 5G is definitely needed as carriers are cutting LTE spectrum for 5G technologies
Curious about this as well
5G has a limited range.
I feel as if they are cutting things out to reduce cost but selling it as an upgrade. We removed all this stuff, charge the same or more and it’s better. Glove box magnet and no center arm rest latch. That’s just cheap cost cutting. Not sure I want to buy a car that they try to cheapen up so much. Tail lights are really just a lesser version of the old, cutting down on plastic, thus cheaper. Same for bumper. Redesign appears to be to cut out fog lights and make it cheaper to produce more than style upgrade.
Correct
+ ventilated seats
+ interior lighting
+ back LCD
+ HW4
- stalks
Same price
Shrinkflation!
Yeah, everything feels cost based, not consumer experience based
BINGO. Would anyone expect Elon to prioritize anything else? Also, I figure it'll take some time for the assembly quality to get up to par
Isn’t the door open button in the same location though?
The shape looks less like a window switch
The added rear screen - are screens now actually cheaper than buttons? If so, that’s crazy.
Lazy designers love screens
Good job on the view, guys. Besides the cooled seats, and the rear bumper, seeing this video and your guys' impressions of the refresh, I feel validated in my purchase of a '23 M3P. One this I noticed that I don't know if you noticed was that the entire middle seat folds down rather than a small section of the middle seat like in the old M3, which would make for a center armrest that has more room for either passenger.
The roof: I think it became more transparent which is great if it still blocks IR?
I used to stare at stars in 2019 M3P, but in 2020 M3P it’s just too dark and often feels like I have a regular roof at night.
Thanks guys. Great job!
In his defence it has no stalks, no parking sensors (only 2022 has that), smaller glovebox, 1 less charging port, no heated middle seat in the back and no fog lights. While I do think the highland looks much better, that’s a lot of features to take away in an upgrade. Essentially you get a meaner front, interior led, an extra couple speakers and ventilated seats. I’m thinking of just taking mine to a body shop and getting the highland body kit.
Mine was clean on pickup. The service Tesla delivers isn't uniform.
Maybe Tesla service KNEW they were loaning the car to a professional car detailer?
Demo drive or actually buying the car? Every car is cleaned when it's delivered for sale unless it's outside.
My wife has a 2023 model 3 with 100k miles and it's awesome, but the ride and suspension of the refresh was night and day. I came here to see the trunk comparison because the opening seemed narrower on the refresh vs the 2023. Hopefully I can find a better comparison video.
Agreed. This guy in the video keeps saying he doesn’t see the difference. As a non-Tesla owner who initially tested a 2023 M3 and MY and hated the ride, it’s absolutely night and day.
The thing I want to know is if you can take the rear screen from the refresh and mount it into the previous model .
Probably not, as it'll likely require wiring that isn't present in the older cars. My 2020 Model Y doesn't have a heated steering wheel, and when I asked a Tesla service advisor about it years ago, he said that they couldn't be retrofit due to not having the wiring needed from the factory.
I was able to at least get Bioweapon Defense Mode installed though, which would've came in handy during those Canadian wildfires in 2023.
@@Geckogold Yea I may end up getting one of the thrid party ones but still hold out hope of a retrofit since the third party connects to existing wireing with an adapter. Its for my 21' MYP but I figure they would all be interchangable if it does work.
After market rear screens are sold online and they are easy to install in M3 and MY previous models
Not very likely. No wiring harness.
@@gregatibu7246 They just can't use the DATA from the car I would rather not have to teather my phone to maske it work
They should have a wagon model 3
Yes. Put the model Y trunk on a 3 and make it a little higher... It would be awesome.
The lack of stalks might be a deal breaker for me.
Honestly - I got used to it on my X really quickly. I’m just glad we have a MY to teach my daughter to drive with stalks. 😂
@@yolanda4731 perhaps it is easy to get used to it but that doesn't necessarily mean that getting rid of them was a good thing
For me it is, applies also for the S. 150k less for Tesla just from our family. With stalks, they could sell much more cars! What a silly decision this was.
The front doors are not the same on the new Highland due to the HW4 cameras...so not the same.
I’m going to need the EU spec headlights 😅
The doors are different - with a latch in the bottom edge now? Maybe the door skins are the same between the gens?
42:57 The dog walker trying to stay out of the video! 😂
Thank you for this straight forward review, pretty much confirms my impressions during my test ride with the TM3HL.
Come on guys the car is 7 years old, time for an all new model not just minor changes. Soon who is going to buy one new when it looks pretty much the same as a 10 year old model
Back seats are just not comfortable in 3 and it is louder. Actually surprising how different it is in front.
We have a couple year old M3 as well as a Chevy Bolt euv. I've never sat in the backseat of my M3, and in all honesty, I'm only 5'9, so I probably don't experience doors like two of your reviewers. I'm surprised that you did not mention how low the doors appears when compared to the high glass and huge roof pillar.
Previously, we owned a Chevy Volt (rip), and I hated riding in it (wife's car) because I'd have to crouch my neck down to get in and out.
We are waiting for the new M y so hopefully they will address things like rear seat noise by the time it is released.
"I've never sat in the backseat of my M3"
Don't
I love my 2021, and feel very sad/frustrated at some of the changes they've been making. No stalks on the steering wheel, no parking sensors. At some point I'll be looking for a new car and moving to a newer Tesla would be a downgrade, which is just so stupid.
If you can, try out the stalkless design.
Most people say they get used to it pretty quickly.
And no HUD either, and neither the rout guide behind the steering wheel. I find it lovely in my BMW i4 eDrive 40
And as for missing indicator stalk, it's a deal-breaker for many. Fumbling on a turned wheel at a roundabout is dangerous. It may not be so important in the US market but necessary in Europe, UK etc with a lot of roundabouts.
Someone mentioned this below on Bjørn Nyland’s review and is so spot on....
Instead of always knowing where to find the blinker stalks, you now have 360 degrees of possible positions and in 180 degrees of the positions the buttons will be upside down.
Also, why have icons, they are only pointing in the correct direction when the steering wheel is levelled correctly, and why is the first button at the top the right blinker?
Impossible to use in heavy traffic driving through roundabouts, accidents will happen due to drivers not checking the road for other cars in blind spots or pedestrians crossing the road as the driver needs to look down and try to find where the buttons are located and which one to use. If the driver manages to actually turn on the blinkers, a large portion will signal in the wrong direction and can cause other accidents due to other drivers assuming the car is going in that direction.
Our X plaid has no stalks and the turn signals takes a little getting used to but the stalkless shifter is an upgraded - 90% of the time you don’t shift when you initially get in, just drive.
@@DFWsCars Absolutely not. Some controls should *never* be behind a screen.
This is why I went with a 2015 Model S P85DL. 3 seconds flat 0-60, so much volume and hatchback for camping and hauling stuff, enhanced auto pilot, working sunroof, air suspension, free supercharging for life , free connectivity, and so much more
If I recall you maybe able to id the battery specs there is a decal on one of the corners of the car situated on the side of battery that has specific info on the battery.
Finished the video, quite shocked there were so many differences in interior space... I guess the new seats had to take up more space... and thus less headroom. so the winner is... Model Y. lol.
Is it HW4?
Yes it has hw4 cameras
ability to move passenger seat from the back is a nice addition. I would like to do that from the main screen too. Sometimes people adjust the seat kinda blocking part of my side view, I like to adjust it back from driver seat.
Just did a self demo drive and the interior feels just a bit smaller all around for some reason. I felt like I sat closer to the roof up front with the chair in its lowest setting and the same feeling in the rear seat.
UNBELIEVABLY informative review, thank you!
My 23 Model 3 RWD also came on Hancock tires.
This makes me feel better about getting a 23 Model Y instead of waiting for Juniper. I get to keep my stalks and tax credit, and if I want the quietness, I can stick some dynamat in the trunk... The improvements are nice, but not a game changer
I did that same thing. Couldn’t be happier. Most of the updates are already on the MY.
@@Bravogiovanni I hope you leased as you are going to take a big bath if you bought new when the refresh Y come out.
@@ericbryant796 Model 3 has not dropped yet due to the Highland coming out.
@@ericbryant796why would that be the case? If you’re willing to spend 5-10k more for AC seats and RGB lighting then go ahead and wait. If you want a fantastic car that’s been pretty refined compared to initial release then go with the current model Y.
@@emoney508 Well we don't know the Juniper price yet....but if they keep it the same like the 3 and it meets the Fed rebate rules, then its a much better buy than the current model. Would it be worth 10K more? No, 5K? I'd say yes.
FINALLY ! An honest review and not some overreaction like most of these Tesla fanboys.
Why is the screen so much larger in the older model 3? 40:30
Knock on wood everything has been great with my '21 LR and I intend to keep it as long as possible. I appreciate most of the features of the highland refresh, but man I think lack of stalks is a deal breaker. And overall the Panasonic 2170's have been real solid in previous models. LG has had a checkered history in the EV game, I don't know if I'd want to be another tester.
Thank you for your honest opinions. Now I don’t feel like I am missing out. I love my 22 boosted model 3. Thinking about trading in our rwd for a used model Y.
In November 2021 I ordered a Tesla model three. Without seeing it or without sitting in it. After going to a Tesla facility and sitting in the backseat of a model three. My feet were not able to go underneath the seat, and my legs were cramped. I’m 61 and 220 pounds. After sitting in the model Y I cancel my order in place one for a Tesla model Y. My point being is there has never been any room in the backseat of a model three and there’s no way you can put your feet under the driver side seat. I think it’s been a while Colton since you sat in the backseat of your model three.
It seems as if the doors are a carryover from the older model and if so, I wonder if the double-pane glass windows can be retrofitted to the older models to aid in noise reduction.
They are not. They are structurally different. Notice the metal plate that slides into the door sill. Makes for a tighter seal and more rigidity
@@ryansherman4556 I saw the doors were made more rigid but because of the said plate but the glass dimensions appear to be the same.
@@mickyd3 sorry I was talking structure not dimension. Yes they’re the same size. The highland has double pane acoustic glass every where
@@ryansherman4556 Awesome!. Thanks for the quick reply.
I think it makes a big difference sitting in the back to the front
I wonder if the reduction in wind noise made the road noise more noticeable while in reality being at the same level as the outgoing model..?
Call me a caveman, but the lack of stalks is a non-starter. That said, virtually every driver in the South never bothers signaling turns, so they won’t miss it a bit.
Some people visualizing world peace... I visualize a world where people use that secret "blinker" feature in their vehicles. LOL
I live in Georgia and use mine without fail, but more than half don't. There are also a ton of left lane bandits and no headlights on during rain down here, both of which drive me crazy.
I owned a MIC highland SR+ for a few weeks and could not justify keeping it over my late 2021 model 3 SR+. The main problem was that it was so much softer than the older 3. Yes more comfortable on the highway. But much less composed in the corners. A lot more rolling and weight transfer.
The lack of stalks didnt bother me too much.
How do you guys think the rear seat compares to the Polestar 2? I had a Model 3 and one of the reasons I chose it over the Polestar was the extra headroom in the back and the flat floor. However after sitting in the back on a longer trip the model 3 was really uncomfortable. This year I switched to a Polestar 2 anyways and I find the rear seat a lot better as long as there is only 2 adults in the rear seat. I'm 6 ft tall. The Polestar also has a better rear hatch.
If Teslas of the future will not have an indicator/blinker stalk then i will not be upgrading from my model 3. We have so many roundabouts in the uk and im not up for trying to find the button to exit a roundabout when the wheel is turned.
All subsequent Tesla models, including cybertruck, will use steer by wire. This will eliminate any roundabout concerns people currently have. Never need to remove hands from steering wheel, lock to lock. You will know precisely where the turn signal is, always. This system is arguably safer than using a stalk.
There will be an upcoming episode of American Ninja where they'll compete using turn signal buttons in roundabouts.
@@joewiley6927 When will this actually happen for S, X, 3, and Y? Removing the stalks, using a yoke, and steer by wire should all three have been packaged together. Cars that are not using steer by wire should not have a yoke and should still have stalks.
@@joeb4294 yoke steering with the display behind I can understand, but the stalks should still be there without steer-by-wire. Agreed. When will they implement these technologies into the older generation models? Good question. In order to transition the models to the 48V architecture, which is necessary for the steer-by-wire, a whole lot of the current production would be rendered useless. It would largely require starting over. I do not see this happening for at least another 5-6 years, as there would have to be several new factories completed before major overhauls of the current factories. Yes, they are starting the next gen models in the current facilities, Texas being first. So they could potentially convert part of the factory after establishing the new lines for the new models. But honestly, I don't see it happening for a while, if ever.
@@joewiley6927 Interesting point, I would need to test drive to see how well this works out.
36:00 you still dont feel like in a bmw or an audi? What audi or what bmw are we talking about cause my 3 series is clearly giving me back pain while my model 3 is like a bentley compared to it. The only confortable bmw i ve been in were 5 series and above
Drove this one this morning! Dirty !!!!
Can they make the model 3 with two doors and hatchback.
Great review, gentlemen. Managed my expectations since I will be getting one.
Why are you comparing it to i5 and eqe ? i4, maybe , but not really.
One thing I like about my model y, that I don't like about my wife's model 3 is the window sill. The y's will is lays more fast horizontally, which makes a perfect arm rest for me. Looks like the new Hyland 3 still has the downward sloping sill.
6:00 - people have been doing that replacement for years... that was the first thing I did to my Model 3 in 2020, get rid of that T on the back and put the letters on.
I was thinking this too. Definitely not a new thing.
My mistake!
Glove box with PIN is smart though - I love that feature
I clicked into this video expecting to want the refreshed version, but the only change that I like is the refreshed front.
Woof, those touch controls. I'd be looking to get a used steering wheel from a wrecked model 3 to swap in, or looking for aftermarket mods to get stalks.
I like an audio comparison.
Didn’t the old model 3 have a full glass roof. The refresh has that partition
The glass fullness hasn't changed in the refresh.
it was the Y that was designed with the full glass roof. I think the difference is a legacy of the original difficulty in producing larger pieces of curved glass. The supplier got better at it and the Y was designed for a larger full glass roof
Kyle sure holds his arms out a lot 😂 now he's got you guys doing it 😅 😛
Good review. I didn’t feel much of a difference in the rear seat experience. But I’m under 6 feet. If you have people over 6 seat sitting on the back, you probably want to go with a bigger car.
The boominess was a big problem for me in the Model Y as well. I wound up not keeping it for that reason. Sad to hear it's translated into another model.
Colton hammers this thing lol 😂
Colton needs a pair of S3XY buttons either mounted on the back side of the wheel paddle switch style or on the console mapped to the left and right turn signals. Or their stocks retrofit if that ever comes out.
Kyle is taller than Ryan - but he sits up close to steering wheel when he drives… so could be that
Is the car going to yell at you for looking at the screen to change lanes
I keep wishing mine would talk to me, but no yelling.
The interior including center console and door latch and glove box - all just like my model X
I have driven all Model 3 “refreshes”. the Highland feels like a pretty big step back for me because of the lack of stalks. I feel that you shouldn’t have to get used to car inputs, it should come naturally.
Same complaint when people found out you have to use the screen to open the glove box, adjust hvac vents, and mirrors.
After a short period of time people got used to it.
@@miami3863 The glovebox, hvac, and mirrors are acceptable because you typically don’t change or interact with those settings very much. The stalks you interact with every single time you operate the car. I view it in the same realm as if they got rid of the brake pedal because the cars are only one pedal driving mode now. Just seems like a very unnecessary downgrade.
Imagine how it was for people to switch from horse and buggy to cars.
I took one for a demo drive. It is an amazing car. Compared to our Mazda 3 (ICE) the Tesla Model 3 has a smoother suspension, and quieter ride. The seats are very comfortable but the car is low to the ground (Like the Mazda 3). Compared to our Model Y, the cameras do appear clearer. I like the stalkless design. We have a blue Model 3 RWD on order.
Just wow
I honestly liked the feel of wood and Alcantara on the old one on every trim, seems like 2024 has the Alcantara only on full premium interior and cloth on dashboard reminds me of some 1980 cars the old basic still feels more premium on some regards
In that condition, it looks like a barn find...
Considering cancelling my m3 refresh now after watching this and going with the y instead of
Test drive first. I went in wanting to buy a 23 or 24 MY. Came out getting 24 M3LR. Family of four (two teens) all agreed. Coming from an older X5 (2nd car).
That's kinda a deal beaker if it can barely fit a 6 foot man in the back. And for $40k smh
In the United States, the average male is about 5 feet 9 inches tall.
I understand that you took delivery of the new Model 3 dirty but what is your excuse for not cleaning it before the video? Especially when you are showing the exterior differences!
Absolutely! Seems like amateur day……not what one would expect from OOS. Gotta believe, had Kyle been involved, things would have been a little different.
He wanted to show how it looked when he picked up his vector
@@lmb4876 then take a picture to show in the video.
This wasn’t a ’delivery’ of new model 3, just a demo test drive.
It's a test drive car. If anything blame Tesla's service center for that, and they at least point out that it was dirty.
Assuming a lot of these are going to be used for Uber/Lyft, it’s disappointing the back seat experience is so poor as it will give a lot of riders a bad impression of Tesla.
Agreed. Most ICE compact cars (Corolla, Civic) have roomier backseats. Even a base Accord/Camry is a Rolls Royce by comparison.
If there's only one passenger, the front passenger seat can be moved full forward, and the passenger sits behind it.
I just test drove the new model 3. No issues with bass in the cabin. The model Y was a different story. Rough ride and bass rumble was highly annoying.
My expatiation is the changes are more for production manufacturability, scalability than customer focused improvements.
Look forward to seeing a 1st gen vs. 2nd gen M3 drive test over 500 miles on the same tires Compare efficiency, and charging performance.
Last week I was behind a Model 3 in Palo Alto, California, and instead of having the Dual Motor badge on the back of the car, his badge said SpaceX.
That must be the “Space X” Xclusive! The Tesla car Elon launched in space well he brought it back & sold it as a 1 of a kind “Space X” edition. 😮 wow good catch.
I added a Spacex logo to my 2018 Model 3
They are available online
Having a 2023 (and a 2018 before that) I was excited to hear the ride was improved,but now I’m not sure.
In back especially, even on the 2023 it was rather rough
The ride quality in the front of the 2024 is a slight improvement but the rear comfort is quite a bit worse when comparing to a 2023
@@ryankassel5691yikes- that’s not good as on my 2023 I can’t even nap back there because it’s so bouncy.
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The rear screen is great for people being driven in Ubers. =)
For heat control I can see it
not just that, moving the front seat up if you need, watching netflix on loooooong trips... adjusting vents/air if you need. would definitely disable it for my kids. lol. @@DiamondHead2010
But from everything else covered in this video, it seems like this might be a poor Uber car with its more cramped and uncomfortable back seats.
@@joeb4294for sure, but drivers generally don’t care? Especially for short drives and Uber X
I think in many Asian markets the back seat comfort is traditionally been more important than front seat. I think many of the changes were made to target the Asian market more than the US one since they sell the same car worldwide with only very small differences
Why not compare the two cars during discussion about the differences?
I think you guys did a great job covering the differnces in the new Model 3 vs the old. I've had a 2021 Model 3 Performance for 3 years, I've driven multiple Teslas, and my wife recently got a 2023 Model Y. Here's my take:
Pros: Less Plastic & More Carpet/Soft Touch Interior. Ventilated Seats. Slight Damper improvements. Acoustic Glass.
Cons: No Stalks! Trunk Floor and Wheel Well Insulation Still Not improved, hence boominess from rear. Tighter Rear Seats. Probably Still No Passenger Lumbar.
Every Penny counts to Tesla. It makes sense but it can get a bit annoying after a while.