That's so fake. Americans don't buy wagons. That's why there is no such choice. Audi has tried for many years to sell wagons in the US with the Allroad versions and no one buys them.
Americans are always complaining about not getting the wagons and hatchbacks, blame yourself and fellow countrymen and stop buying SUVs. You can't blame a commercial company not introducing models that don't sell.
Kyle, you should move over to Germany, you are very welcome. Yeah the car is great too! I would like to see an EV Wagon Race to Las Vegas....which probably will remain a dream....
Two things: 1) Audi bring the Avant to the US!! 2) The reactions to the A6 design shows that automotive designers can't win with online car "enthusiasts". BMW does crazy stuff, it's too crazy. Audi does more restrained stuff and it's too boring. I honestly think the loudest people online don't actually like any new cars, they trash everything new, nothing's as good as what they already own. So exhausting.
Lots of folks don't like it, but I think the A6 looks great. PPE looks like a killer platform too - the 800v charges like a boss and thermals seem to be rock solid from Bjorn's 1000km challenge.
Lot of trends are because of the Chinese market, same with: big grills, mood lights, chrome in all the wrong places. Just be glad we don't get the curtains in Europe and US that would make the brothel on wheels complete. (A friend of mine told me what a brothel looks like from the inside.)
They really should allow ordering the Avant (Wagon) state side. They don't need to keep them at the dealer (maybe just one in the showroom), I'm sure enough people would wait for it to be made and delivered.
I'm guessing (and hoping) they will in subsequent years. Audi likely can sell all they can make just in Europe for a good long while. Isn't the North American market simply too big just to write off wagons completely?
I mean, the RS6 Avant was initially only going to be a very limited one year thing here in the US. Each dealer was only getting 2. Years later, now, it's regular model available and not limited. That's due to demand, so people do want wagons enough for them to do that. I'm pretty sure if they made it available to order, people here will do so.
re: "They really should allow ordering the Avant (Wagon) state side. They don't need to keep them at the dealer..." exactly, just force those claiming to want one to place an order by "coming off the dime" with a NON-REFUNDABLE deposit (hint, they already know you've got the cash stacked up). then after a year of having that data in hand (good or bad) Audi NA can then use it to make the decision as to whether they will import them in mass to 'Murica as a regular model. it's the proverbial WIN/WIN situation.
Traded a beautiful Audi for my early Tesla Model 3 several years ago.. Would totally go back to Audi if they bring a nice A6 e-tron with NACS to the USA. Fingers crossed that their software is solid.
Kyle have you received a letter from Audi extending the limited warranty on the drive motors for 2019-2022 E-tron's to 10 years or 120,000 miles. We just received our letter from Audi last week.
Thanks for the wonderful review. Despite numerous negative comments, I like the design and the liftback storage. With its long range and fast charging, this vehicle will outshine the Model S if Tesla does not get busy and refresh its more expensive vehicles. One question: when you opened the lower storage in the rear, you mentioned the presence of a spare tire. It is hard to believe a modern EV with a spare tire. Is that true?
Hope we get a dark brown and dark red interiors in the US. I hope soon, they drop the E-Tron name from their EVs. Especially knowing that all even numbers going forward will be electric. So, seeing an A6, we know it's an EV and don't need the E-Tron name.
The lighting design alone and the road presence should tell you what the car is. You shouldn't need to see the logo to know what's behind you at night. The illuminated logo is only something a 16 year old would think looks good. It looks equally terrible on the Mercedes
@@otm646 Exactly. It's dumb and cheap looking on any car. Car enthusiasts don't need lit up logos to know what kind of car it is. We can tell by the lights at night.
Kyle when are we going to get your Q6 e-tron reviews like driving, range, and charging. Bjorn did all of his and so did Kris so maybe the opportunity has passed.
The lighting segment was very interesting. I did not know that, if and when US regs change, it would also require a hardware modification, as opposed to just a software update. Drats.
So glad sedans and wagons are getting some love in the EV space and I’m glad they’re both hatchbacks. I don’t love the exterior design. Feels a bit dated and cheap. Almost feels like a Chinese EV in the front. The range and charging specs seem great though. Overall it feels like they’re still behind Tesla and Rivian, which is disappointing because I’ve always loved Audi.
Please please do your a review for Auto Cruise, as well as any Auto Park Assists. I would really like the BMW i5 features of this, but I do like the Audi.
Nearly the only car reviews worth watching at this point are Out of Spec. I do wish Kyle would have followed up on whether the Start/Stop buttong can be bypassed as in the Macan. I personally hate EVs that make you use a button to activate. Feel so reductive and backward. Just get in and foot on brake to start and exit the vehicle turn off. Works perfectly fine!
I didn’t like the user interface. It seemed like sensory overload with all the buttons and displays. It doesn’t have to be as Spartan as a Tesla, but this was the opposite.
I actually wonder if wagons may sell better in the US than sedans going forward. The sedan market is dying so quick and an EV wagon is basically just a lowered crossover
Anyone know when Audi is going to rework the Q4 E-Tron to use the PPE architecture? I don't need the size of the Q6, but I need closer to 275 mile range to get up to Breckenridge and back on a single charge in the winter.
Gonna have to disagree with the designer about the headlights. Two rows of lights can look good if they're similar and coherent (as on Genesis), but when the real lights are lower, different and kind of hidden like the designers are embarrassed of them (i7) it's bad. At least in this case they seem better hidden than on i7, but still...this whole fad will be remembered like the 996 headlights, I guarantee it.
270kw DC charging? I wonder what it would be at less say 30°F. We all expect something less than 270kw but what is acceptable 50kw, 60kw? These are some of the things I would like to know before I purchase another expensive EV.
@@abraxastulammo9940 My EV has battery heating/preconditioning. Yet the service manual & service department says it’s normal for the battery control module to limit my rate of charge at different ambient temperatures. Without telling me what those rates are. That’s why I will not buy another expensive EV without knowing its charging curve at different temperatures.
The sheer amount of Jetta SportWagens and A6 Allroads i STILL see zipping on the road today, makes me very disappointed that we won't get the Avant trim. Boooooo!
In Finland prices are at the same ballbark as ICE A6 ... cheaper would always be nice but it seems that prices are what you could expect. Smaller cars are / will be cheaper ...
@@mho0 with this Audi price you can buy two Tesla model 3 SR. In Norway it is expensive and many other brands can be much cheaper and you get 80-90% similar specs.
@@mho0 I do know this Audi is Premium and in the same category as Polestar 3, BMW, Merc, etc. remember it is electric car & there are issues with electric cars and it is still under development that is why you can’t just through your many on EV when you can get similar specs at a lower price unless you are a person who is looking for luxury cars or yoy are person who got too much money to through away
@@abebegirmay3327 Agree basically. All 'premium' cars are worse value for money and for people who can afford to throw money to things which just make them more happy than buying something basic. And many who can affort Audi/Polestar etc. cannot afford Roll Royce ... i.e. we all should buy what fits to our budget. My first cars were old used cars worth like 2000€ long time ago ... could not even have used Audi at that pöint of time :).
Before I bought our 2 Model Ys, I was a Volvo fan. But I always liked and was interested in Audis. I ddid't know why. Then I saw an article that said Audi was the German Volvo, meaning, Audi is not in your face like BMW, Porsche, or even Mercedes. I thought, yeah, that's probably it.
For those that state we have wagons in the US and nobody buys them, that's only half true. We get the lifted allroad with unpainted plastic body cladding. Yuck
The rear end looks great, classic Audi. If you pulled the logo off the front it looks generically Chinese or Kia. Cars don't need to look electric, it's not 2014. It needs to look like a business class Audi.
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Right out the gate -- angry we are AGAIN not getting the wagon in the US. C'MON AUDI. How much effort can it really take to just give us the choice??
Say it louder!!
Cash is king. If they thought they'd make money by offering it, it's a safe bet that they would.
That's so fake. Americans don't buy wagons. That's why there is no such choice. Audi has tried for many years to sell wagons in the US with the Allroad versions and no one buys them.
hardly anyone wants wagons in the usa. Their regular avants were doign poorly due to the crossover sales. All about demand.
Americans are always complaining about not getting the wagons and hatchbacks, blame yourself and fellow countrymen and stop buying SUVs. You can't blame a commercial company not introducing models that don't sell.
Kyle, you should move over to Germany, you are very welcome. Yeah the car is great too! I would like to see an EV Wagon Race to Las Vegas....which probably will remain a dream....
That would be FIRE
Glad to see the passenger display, one of the wife's favorites in our Taycan.
Loved listeing to the lighting guy... was interesting someone nerding out over something specific like that. You can tell he loves his job
On the first frame I noticed this was a real DSLR. You should make your normal videos on these, even if its a small camera. Quality is so much better.
You've got a knack for this, loving your content!
Two things:
1) Audi bring the Avant to the US!!
2) The reactions to the A6 design shows that automotive designers can't win with online car "enthusiasts". BMW does crazy stuff, it's too crazy. Audi does more restrained stuff and it's too boring. I honestly think the loudest people online don't actually like any new cars, they trash everything new, nothing's as good as what they already own. So exhausting.
Honestly A5 front looks much more better than this front black hole.
You are correct. They scream at everything that doesn’t guzzle fuel
This is by far the best looking review you've ever done keep it up 👍🏻
Lots of folks don't like it, but I think the A6 looks great. PPE looks like a killer platform too - the 800v charges like a boss and thermals seem to be rock solid from Bjorn's 1000km challenge.
Love the Avant. Specs are good also.
Germans having fun about lightning puts a smile on my face
The words "Germans" and "fun" do not belong in same sentence, there must be a practical reason.
@@buddy1155if fun and fart jokes fit together in your world, you are right
What’s with Audi and their obsession with glossy black all over the place.
It’s a bit better than the older models but still a lot of it
It is not what Audi wants, it is what their customers want. You have to realize how ignorant, vain, impulsive and dumb the average car buyer is.
Lot of trends are because of the Chinese market, same with: big grills, mood lights, chrome in all the wrong places. Just be glad we don't get the curtains in Europe and US that would make the brothel on wheels complete. (A friend of mine told me what a brothel looks like from the inside.)
@@jimj2683Of course you are exceptional and aren’t any of those things right?
@@jayem8981 No
The cream color is lovely.
Audi needs to rethink their press studio environment. Black background, black floors, dark cars - can barely see the product.
I think the reason for black is to enhance the appearance of their extensive lighting. If it was a bright studio, lighting loses contrast.
"can barely see the product". Its white. Are you blind?
@@wizzyno1566 two out of the three cars are dark. Maybe you didn’t see them because of the horrible studio
Just wow, great cars!
They really should allow ordering the Avant (Wagon) state side. They don't need to keep them at the dealer (maybe just one in the showroom), I'm sure enough people would wait for it to be made and delivered.
I'm guessing (and hoping) they will in subsequent years. Audi likely can sell all they can make just in Europe for a good long while. Isn't the North American market simply too big just to write off wagons completely?
I mean, the RS6 Avant was initially only going to be a very limited one year thing here in the US. Each dealer was only getting 2. Years later, now, it's regular model available and not limited. That's due to demand, so people do want wagons enough for them to do that. I'm pretty sure if they made it available to order, people here will do so.
re: "They really should allow ordering the Avant (Wagon) state side. They don't need to keep them at the dealer..." exactly, just force those claiming to want one to place an order by "coming off the dime" with a NON-REFUNDABLE deposit (hint, they already know you've got the cash stacked up). then after a year of having that data in hand (good or bad) Audi NA can then use it to make the decision as to whether they will import them in mass to 'Murica as a regular model. it's the proverbial WIN/WIN situation.
thank you for getting a new mic. :) hope you keep that.
Those tail lights are sooooo good looking.
Traded a beautiful Audi for my early Tesla Model 3 several years ago.. Would totally go back to Audi if they bring a nice A6 e-tron with NACS to the USA. Fingers crossed that their software is solid.
Kyle have you received a letter from Audi extending the limited warranty on the drive motors for 2019-2022 E-tron's to 10 years or 120,000 miles. We just received our letter from Audi last week.
I want the Avant trim in the US! All the space of an SUV but with the handling of a sedan!
Porsche is doing well with the Taycan Cross Turismo and Sport Turismo. I see no reason why Audi shouldn't bring the Avant to 🇺🇸 too.
that’s an excellent point! If the cross Turismo and is selling well for Porsche, why can’t Audi bring the Avant, BMW bring the i5 touring?
Glad your voice is back, though I'm gonna miss Old Man Kyle
Great audio and video quality here - you can tell this wasn't just shot on an iPhone and it helps a lot with the presentation to me.
Thanks for the wonderful review. Despite numerous negative comments, I like the design and the liftback storage. With its long range and fast charging, this vehicle will outshine the Model S if Tesla does not get busy and refresh its more expensive vehicles. One question: when you opened the lower storage in the rear, you mentioned the presence of a spare tire. It is hard to believe a modern EV with a spare tire. Is that true?
Liftbacks are just superior. But few people like to admit that. Just look at the difference it makes between the Mercedes EQS and EQE
this tiny front trunk would be useful for valuables like a laptop.
Oh, I thought it could only fit an iPad. 😌
I really need to move to Europe. I love wagons and soccer. Why am I in the US?
Start learning to call it “football” then 😅
@@leroi5342 I was going to, but it sounded a little pompous.
Awesome finally proper EV estate and by legends at Audi ❤❤❤.
Great video
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth....
Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊
REALLY REALLY REALLY BEAUTIFUL CAR
Hope we get a dark brown and dark red interiors in the US.
I hope soon, they drop the E-Tron name from their EVs. Especially knowing that all even numbers going forward will be electric. So, seeing an A6, we know it's an EV and don't need the E-Tron name.
Fantastic Audi❤
If I got either model I would wrap the Audi logos in black so fast. Lit up logos are so chintzy.
The lighting design alone and the road presence should tell you what the car is. You shouldn't need to see the logo to know what's behind you at night. The illuminated logo is only something a 16 year old would think looks good. It looks equally terrible on the Mercedes
@@otm646 Exactly. It's dumb and cheap looking on any car. Car enthusiasts don't need lit up logos to know what kind of car it is. We can tell by the lights at night.
Maybe you can Turn it off?
Best EV content out there if you care about EVs.
Under 60k eur Avant would be a great deal. Something tells me that the price of a not entirely empty config will be closer to 90k.
This camera quality is insane! Great work!
I love them both,cheers Kyle 👍😊💪
BMW: I have monster jaws on both the sides.
Audi: baby, I have black mouth itself. 🤣🤣🤣
Kyle when are we going to get your Q6 e-tron reviews like driving, range, and charging. Bjorn did all of his and so did Kris so maybe the opportunity has passed.
The lighting segment was very interesting. I did not know that, if and when US regs change, it would also require a hardware modification, as opposed to just a software update. Drats.
I love your work Kyle, but no one else cares how fast a charge flap opens. It’s just you.
Nice video and great quality!
Camera work is strong on this one.
Front lights resembles the latest upper echelon BMWs, X7, XM and 7er
That car is gorgeous. I'd get the avant if they make an 'allroad' spec as per tradition
Spec for spec and head room, I am really loving my faster and quicker Ioniq 5 N. Love the long range on the Audi if you’re into that kind of thing. 🙂
So glad sedans and wagons are getting some love in the EV space and I’m glad they’re both hatchbacks. I don’t love the exterior design. Feels a bit dated and cheap. Almost feels like a Chinese EV in the front. The range and charging specs seem great though. Overall it feels like they’re still behind Tesla and Rivian, which is disappointing because I’ve always loved Audi.
Gorgeous car !!!
Wow that cockpit screen is tiny. How big are those bezels?
Amazing car! 😮
Ripped the front from a Hyundai Kona! 😂 I liked it, looks good 😁
They kind of did, huh? Yowza, without that fake grill and 4 rings it would be, well, a ringer.
I really like the design even it's slightly generic.
I like the design.
When will this come to NA market?
With considerably higher possible speeds on the autobahn the cd of 0.21 vs 0.24 should make a relevant difference in range for the sportback.
Every time I try looking for an a6 allroad it’s never available. Doesn’t that say something?
Hate the screens. The outgoing model did the screens better.
the fact that we dont get the wagon in canada either, what a scam, i love the extra room
Less aerodynamic.
Hi Kyle why would you be waiting to plug in surely you would press open on the charger begore you grab the lead and pay ??
Or press open before you leave the car? 😅
Please please do your a review for Auto Cruise, as well as any Auto Park Assists. I would really like the BMW i5 features of this, but I do like the Audi.
Side styling to the doors intended to disguise the bulk of the depth due to the batteries layer… doesn’t work just draws attention to it
Nearly the only car reviews worth watching at this point are Out of Spec.
I do wish Kyle would have followed up on whether the Start/Stop buttong can be bypassed as in the Macan. I personally hate EVs that make you use a button to activate. Feel so reductive and backward. Just get in and foot on brake to start and exit the vehicle turn off. Works perfectly fine!
Americans don’t buy wagons so companies don’t import them so we don’t buy so they don’t import them so we don’t buy them… AAARGH!
No way the presenter shots were filmed with an iPhone? Looked Sony esque
How is this different from the VW ID7?
It costs more, start with that. Different platform, apparently, too.
Same Company
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The audi gets the porsche platform, which is superior
I didn’t like the user interface. It seemed like sensory overload with all the buttons and displays. It doesn’t have to be as Spartan as a Tesla, but this was the opposite.
I actually wonder if wagons may sell better in the US than sedans going forward. The sedan market is dying so quick and an EV wagon is basically just a lowered crossover
AUDI-ROWDIE
Anyone know when Audi is going to rework the Q4 E-Tron to use the PPE architecture?
I don't need the size of the Q6, but I need closer to 275 mile range to get up to Breckenridge and back on a single charge in the winter.
Probably not until the redesign in 2-3 years.
Maybe I have old information, but never been impressed with Audi range and charging speed. However, this model is impressive.
Gonna have to disagree with the designer about the headlights. Two rows of lights can look good if they're similar and coherent (as on Genesis), but when the real lights are lower, different and kind of hidden like the designers are embarrassed of them (i7) it's bad. At least in this case they seem better hidden than on i7, but still...this whole fad will be remembered like the 996 headlights, I guarantee it.
The funny thing is they are in one case and only the car body splits it.
@@abraxastulammo9940 I don't want to know how much that would cost to replace, then.
The Interior could be really better.
Compegition is growing. Wish Tesla works hard ti i prove Charging curve
LOL I thought you would say Tesla has better interior.
anyone have guesses for msrp?
270kw DC charging? I wonder what it would be at less say 30°F. We all expect something less than 270kw but what is acceptable 50kw, 60kw? These are some of the things I would like to know before I purchase another expensive EV.
It has battery heating
@@abraxastulammo9940 My EV has battery heating/preconditioning. Yet the service manual & service department says it’s normal for the battery control module to limit my rate of charge at different ambient temperatures. Without telling me what those rates are. That’s why I will not buy another expensive EV without knowing its charging curve at different temperatures.
It's a good looking car but there won't be very many sold at the price point they have them at. 70k for a base rwd a6 is nuts.
Seriously US?? Why are the lighting regulations so damn strict?? Been waiting for LED Matrix for last 6 years now.
The sheer amount of Jetta SportWagens and A6 Allroads i STILL see zipping on the road today, makes me very disappointed that we won't get the Avant trim. Boooooo!
The price starts higher than most cars and that is the issue here. Audi may be can start lowering the price and see how much it will be sold
In Finland prices are at the same ballbark as ICE A6 ... cheaper would always be nice but it seems that prices are what you could expect. Smaller cars are / will be cheaper ...
@@mho0 with this Audi price you can buy two Tesla model 3 SR. In Norway it is expensive and many other brands can be much cheaper and you get 80-90% similar specs.
@@abebegirmay3327 yeah. Ok. Do you get other premium car also cheaper? Merc, BMW? Of course M3SR or Corolla or any smaller cheap carr are cheaper
@@mho0 I do know this Audi is Premium and in the same category as Polestar 3, BMW, Merc, etc. remember it is electric car & there are issues with electric cars and it is still under development that is why you can’t just through your many on EV when you can get similar specs at a lower price unless you are a person who is looking for luxury cars or yoy are person who got too much money to through away
@@abebegirmay3327 Agree basically. All 'premium' cars are worse value for money and for people who can afford to throw money to things which just make them more happy than buying something basic. And many who can affort Audi/Polestar etc. cannot afford Roll Royce ... i.e. we all should buy what fits to our budget.
My first cars were old used cars worth like 2000€ long time ago ... could not even have used Audi at that pöint of time :).
Before I bought our 2 Model Ys, I was a Volvo fan. But I always liked and was interested in Audis. I ddid't know why. Then I saw an article that said Audi was the German Volvo, meaning, Audi is not in your face like BMW, Porsche, or even Mercedes. I thought, yeah, that's probably it.
Kyle, what happened to your voice? We want Granny back! 😉😅
Looks... Chunky
I might of missed it, but is this the same platform as the VW ID7?
No this is on the PPE platform - same as Macan and Q6.
Too bad the car is years late, already bought VW ID.7.
ID. 7 is good, too, and has a slightly better value-for-money - good choice. But yeah the Audi is very nice and overall better
I mean its the same company so they are probably ok with it.
Two things i dont like. The blacked bottom face and the camera side mirrors
For those that state we have wagons in the US and nobody buys them, that's only half true. We get the lifted allroad with unpainted plastic body cladding. Yuck
I'm in the US and I want the F'ing wagon :(
Why use different light signatures, which allmost all looks exactly the same. Marketing? And yes, they ruined the looks a lot compared to concept
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Ummmmmm Ford launched this car in Europe 10 or more years ago and called it the Mondeo…………….. and it was a huge seller
Kyle my wife hates the wagon.
we are not getting the avant because Us does not like wagons so why would they wastw their type to sell it to 100 people.
The rear end looks great, classic Audi. If you pulled the logo off the front it looks generically Chinese or Kia.
Cars don't need to look electric, it's not 2014. It needs to look like a business class Audi.
Define „looking electric“
Welp can't get the wagon, no sense of my watching! 👎🏽
That is kind of hard to swallow, tbo.
49:20 they should fire you immediately
Audi
Another bubble/bug-looking mobile. Wonderful.
But it's a ButterFace......car......
Looks very Hyundai..
Yea no the cockpit design sucks
Wake me up when VAG wakes up to the smell of its own smoke and builds an A1, A2 etron to make up for its mistakes
Thats like asking for Lamborghini to make a cheap car. Audi is a premium brand. These are extremely luxurious cars.
One can dream. But the audi designer also designed the small BYD cars
Bro, the jet lag is all over your face, or you have too much fun at the brewery. You need some sleep.