Is the Amazon rainforest now releasing more carbon dioxide than it's absorbing?
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- The Amazon was once called the 'lungs of the planet'. New research suggests those lungs are now so badly diseased that they may be irreparable. Human activity hasn't just lowered the amount of CO2 the region can store, it's also kicked off numerous other feedback loops that are now tipping out of control. So what are those variables, and what's the prognosis?
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Frontiers in Forests and Global Change
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Oh Dave, that was hard to watch, and I imagine so much harder to make. It's a dirty job, but someone has to keep hammering the message home and you are definitely the right man for the job. Keep up the good work. I hope you have other areas in your life that bring you joy to counterbalance the all-pervading sense of doom that underlies so many of these excellent videos.
Well said, Marc. Dave is doing a superb job keeping us informed of all the ramifications of climate change.
Excellent comment, thanks 👍
Would hurt to hammer a hammer in the skulls of those who cause the most damage, but like the forest, it might be better to burn them repeatedly
Thanks Marc. I will keep banging the drum :-)
“We preserve pockets of nature in our urban centers and large expanses of nature in our national parks because of the magic we feel in its presence. It reminds us of our smallness and calls us back to a deeper, quieter part of ourselves. When we honor nature by being respectful in its presence, we honor the mystery and wild beauty of our origin. “ Respecting Wildlife, MADISYN TAYLOR
"What are you doing?"
"I'm setting the house on fire"
"What? Are you crazy? We're in the house!"
"Ah... you worry too much"
It's called a stove.
@@larslrs7234 I agree. The walls of the stove are the atmosphere and the surface inside is the surface of the planet.
Great translation Lad
Exactly.
The analogy I use is like us urinating in our own hot tub.
So, as usual, we're even more f*cked than we could possibly imagine.
Is this faster than expected? worse than expected? When can we get a not as bad as thought video
But not so f*cked that some can still deny or ignore it.
Neanderthals died out due to unable to adapt and stupidity. Homosapians are next.
Death by a thousand (hundred million) cuts.
@@LK-pc4sq The idea that they were stupid has been seriously questioned, it seems more likely that they were not as violent and ruthless as sapians.
I'm sorry that in preparing this video for us that you had to experience anguish and stress. Thank you for sharing this with us, and don't give up! Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks Waylon. I will! :-)
The trick is avoiding resigned cynicism. I’ve been working in the field for 20 years and I gave up on humanity quite a while ago. It’s worth keeping at it for the small opportunities at damage control, but it was too late to avoid it 30 plus years ago. It’s a done deal.
I absolutely agree. He is a great fellow and a secular saint!
@@froggy0162 AR6 II explained in bits and pieces ruclips.net/video/sE0J6T5FArQ/видео.html
@Froggy 01 I don't know what I was thinking until very recently. I still had faith in humanity coming together to tackle and resolve this problem. I think it was the kids who blinded me. I needed to maintain hope for them and bury my head in the sand to reality. Now the kids are teens and I've met their peers and I realize they are no better, in fact maybe worse, than previous generations and they will NOT be fixing this problem. Maybe 10% are even remotely concerned and ready and willing to do something about it. It's disheartening.
Keep going Dave. I know how difficult it can be, but keep going we must. Thank you once again for putting this vital science fact in front of the public.
Why do I tune in to this 🥵... Oh, yeah. Because it’s real, and it matters! The future is going to drastically effect human life, and I hold onto the ghosts of a chance that conscious people might prevail in this current bass-ackwards society.
I'd say to "let it go". We are hard-wired for stupidity. It's time we extinguished ourselves, as a society, and let Nature get on with the job of restoring itself.
It's a sick animal that fouls it's own nest.
Only we humans would cause our own extinction. Free will is universal law incl sadly for those driven by greed and power.
it thinks it will fly out of there some day
The slower the threat - the worse we are at dealing with it
also countries in the N are to gain from climate change so why bother stopping it when you are on the winning side
@@sanjikaneki6226 Who on Earth thinks that climate change is going to benefit the northern hemisphere in this day and age, Sanji? I sympathise if you are angry at corporations from the developed world which are often responsible for many of the negative practices in tropical regions, but they are only benefitting themselves (not northerly governments and not the general population in a meaningful way) and even then only in the short run. It doesn't mean northern people will have more hot summer days to lounge in the garden with a cool drink at hand. We might not be suffering as much as equatorial areas yet (if ever), but climate change will do us no good at all. We are going to be both directly affected by it and also indirectly affected by the disastrous effects on more southern parts of the globe (mass migration of desperate people, more expensive imports, especially of food). Warming climates mean volatile weather, creating more dangerous flooding and heatwaves- bad for crops and directly endangering human life. It means people getting relatively poorer due to the consequent higher food prices, it means rising sea levels reducing coastal living space, it means either greatly improving building and infrastructure designs to cope with the new extremes (or else just wasting loads of electricity on air conditioning, the elderly and infants dying of heatstroke and accepting that millions will be impoverished by regular flood events which insurance companies cannot afford to compensate for). It means greater immigration from areas of the world hit harder by climate change, putting more strain on living costs, it means diseases that were once only a problem in far away hot countries making their way north, it means crops and trees that were once iconic parts of our landscapes becoming distant memories. Nobody is going to win from the climate change threats we are facing.
@@danyoutube7491 ruclips.net/video/SY9NjD_5WWo/видео.html
for example for russia since it is the first i found
@@sanjikaneki6226 Hmmm, that video's assessment seems simplistic to me (not least because a lot of regions in the supposedly homogenous temperate zone taken in by that band painted across the world map already experience very different climatic conditions to one another). The general premise that a huge swathe of Siberia will become a mild, temperate zone that is easy to settle and farm like Europe is a bit flimsy, because much of it already experiences very high summer temperatures in addition to very low winter temperatures due to being a large continental landmass that doesn't get the mild temperatures and reliable rainfall that regions like Europe benefit from. I doubt anyone living in deep continental Russia would want warmer summers than they already have, even if it might mean milder winters. I think Russia is going to be susceptible to erratic weather events just like the rest of the world, and with rising heat they are going to have more forest fires, droughts and flooding. Also, as the permafrost melts at an ever faster rate, they are going to have a lot of those colossal sinkholes to fill up aren't they. I don't know if you've seen pictures of them, but they are huge and I think the land in such areas is likely to remain unstable for a long time to come, making it a bit risky for large cities (this might be a rather small scale problem in truth, I don't know how widespread the affected regions are). But for the sake of argument let's say that video's premise is correct; it is almost exclusively Russia who will really benefit from the shift (and the benefits the video describes are really only advantages for the government and business oligarchs who will theoretically make big profits, not ordinary citizens). Since the Russian population is relatively small, that is not many people who are on the 'winning side' of climate change, and so there is no incentive for the majority of people in the world to passively accept the continuation of these environmentally damaging activities.
Thank you so much for your compassion for our planet and your passion for this subject. Without this kind of broad casting our grand children might never know how as a race we are steeling their future. I wish this was part of the UK schools curriculum.
There are plenty of devastating news around which we have had to live with for decades. In the end we all have to join in to fix the issue and being stressed about it won't make much of a difference.
I think kids born recently are going to curse us
We deserve it.
They won't even notice because.... sorry just have to check my phone.
Yes they will curse us for having no backbone or the I.Q of a Peanut to believe ALL THIS NONSENSE
My grandmother was born 1889 said she wished I could see what it was like before 1945 and all the nuclear testing the world was a different place he would have tears in her eyes when she would tell me
Already do :>
Thank you so much for ploughing through this report and presenting it in an understandable way to us. This one must have been both shocking and depressing for you to deal with - as you said, it's a real gut-punch. Thank you also for encouraging us to take whatever action we can, both individually and collectively. Your work is very much appreciated.
I think what a lot of people don’t realise this is us, we are watching & witnessing, discussing & observing the destruction of humanity essentially.
The early death of our own children.
Yhupp, seems like the most intelligent being in earth's history just breaks the record on bottomless stupidity in the end.
It won't be a problem worth dealing with until the rich children start dieing.
@@Aermydach that's harsh, possibly true. ps Dying
No dude. This is complete bs. We should protect the earth for the sake of other species that can’t adjust as quickly as we can. Humans will be fine
@@scienceisall2632 Are you so sure about that? Ok grant you population growth is not the problem we thought it was, but forced migration due to climate change? Rapid dietary change? seafood off the plate? Non-dairy? There is a lot of transitioning to do
Another devastating feedback mechanism hurtling humanity towards extinction.
woke
The rich will survive just fine
@@y37chung You can't survive in a world with devastated ecosystems. Life is a finely tuned integrated web of organisms. You remove one and it has a cascading series of effects. The rich will eventually suffer like the rest of us. Money will only shield them for so long.
Nonsense
@@christiank.8110 Humans won’t suffer on net with things non subjective.
The other species have already been in a mass extinction event since we started to populate the globe, so unfortunately for them yeah it sucks. We can try to help mitigate this.
We will have to make up for our sins by seeding the galaxy with life. That’s a million year project though, but once we do that, then humans would have been a net positive. That legacy will carry on for billions of years
as ever spot on, thanks for covering the not so popular and popular, complex and none complex.
More you know the worse it gets.
Keep on laying it out until the message gets through.
Plant based yet?
The message got through just fine. It’s just that no one cares.
RUclips - educate yourself search:
"A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth" united nations.
RUclips - educate yourself: why the number one prescribed drug on the planet is anti cholesterol statins to prevent the number one cause of death of humans - heart attack caused by cholesterol consumption. 👍
RUclips - why are 70% of humans lactose intolerant?
As with several previously, this video will be sent to my MP. Thank you.
This was a very difficult watch. 🥺
Very good and in deep analysis. Congrats. As a brazilian citizen such situation make me sad and ashamed . I hope our justice take away the authorities that allowed this happens.
I hope you are soon graced with a president that begins to give his people and their natural environment the good service they deserve, rather than the Trump of the tropics you are currently lumbered with :)
You are the best and most persistent voice available on this topic. Much love.
Individual lifestyle choices won't save us. We need a collective massive action. We need those in power to do what is needed, and for this we need to organize and ensure through every available facet of political pressure that they do. This means protest, fundraising, lobbying, etc. If we work together fast we can convince the greater world leadership to change course.
Personally, I think the current crop of mindless sociopathic leaders need to be deposed and replaced.
@@RussCR5187 Problem is the only people ruthless enough to accomplish that would be as bad or worse. It never ceases to amaze me that folks I talk to still loyally support the mainstream political parties in my country despite mountains of evidence that everything those parties do, regardless of which comes to power, operate in their own interests with benefits to the rest of us only as a happy coincidence. Unfortunately I am becoming convinced that we get what we deserve....and much as I am a fan of Elon Musk I am hoping that our collective efforts to destroy our plant succeed before he makes us a multi planetary species....inflicting us on the worlds beyond ours is equivalent to spreading a virus.
@@richardlangley90 As I believe I have said elsewhere here, I don't think the traditional methods of democratic change are available to us any more. Forget the political route. The only approach that could do the job is sustained mass demonstrations of non-violent civil disobedience. The big problem there is in assembling large enough masses of people to have any effect. We have been divided and conquered. I'm not holding my breath in anticipation of changes that will be anywhere near large enough to make a difference in the time that remains.
XR is the guiding star:
1. Tell the truth
2. Act now
3. Citizen‘s assemblies
We need more acts of civil disobedience. Greta showed us the path.
@@achenarmyst2156 Agreed. I'm supporting XR America and also Roger Hallam.
Thanks for another excellent presentation Dave. It still amazes me that you can front this news and analysis without resorting to angry and frustrated screaming at the camera. I'll continue sharing your videos in hope that a critical point of realisation is reached.
"Thanks for watching and I'll see you soon"
Well, that's an optimistic statement. I like your spirit, lad, keep it up!
How do you keep calm while delivering this information. One of the most upsetting videos you have made. 50yrs ago l lived in the south American jungle for awhile so sad.
Brazil elected that Thug Bosonaro who has given freen reign to the loggers,ranchers,miners and agriculture!!! Also include brazilian banks and the grain shippers,and you have a nexus of evil hellbent on ecocide -genocide!!!
Tom, many Climate Scientist had to goto physiologist to deal with the anxiety of their work.
I share your pain Tom, but I have to stay calm and balanced in front of camera so that I can deliver the message.
@@JustHaveaThink Your work is much appreciated THANK YOU.
@@LK-pc4sq Not just climate scientists. A very large chunk of all the academics I know who work in fields related to planetary change have faced consequences for their mental health as a result. This stuff is bleak and difficult.
Keep making those videos, they're very important and valuable. Even if most people don't understand what's going on..
Dave; you really nailed that last bit. This video is frightening. It made me want to do more to help. Thanks.
Elect the right people.
Thank you for making this. I'll share it far and wide in the hopes that your effort can inspire people to change. Honestly, I don't know if we can change on time but I'll die trying.
Thanks for trying. It's better than nothing. If even for your own piece of mind and moral satisfaction. Sadly though it is almost certainly too late. At least not without a massive global effort and change in the way human society does things. And... well... that's simply not going to happen.
That map of the forest disappearing in the amazon killed me 😢😭
Very frustrating😞 Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll be able to stop this insanity 🙁
Kill off the global population to 1990 levels where the cross over point for co2 was considered safe at 350.org 350 ppm was considered safe.
@@LK-pc4sq The richest percent contribute the most carbon emissions.
Really excellent video.I hope this is shared and seen far and wide . People, Act now!
Thank you for this video! As always, magnificent.
I'm a brazillian, currently studying renewable energy and engeniering in Switzerland, and this issue to me is devastating.
There are two other consequences mostly overlooked with catastrophic effects that I'd like to point out.
1. The amazon is essential to bringing humidity to Brazil's west, south-east and south regions. We call it the flying rivers, which result from constant amazonic evapotranspiration at a massive scale and our great geological barrier to the west (Andes). This is the reason for which there is rich and arable land at otherwise arid regions (just compare the cited area to the deserts at the same latitude in Africa and Australia).
Deforestation is therefore leading to aridification of these regions, which is leading to even more radical and destructive approaches to farming, destroying even more soil and emitting even more pollutant gases, and of course, there's the growing number of natural/unnatural fires aswell.
2. Another catastrophy, which is a big crisis in this specific year, is the hydric and resultant energy crisis we are facing right now. Dams are operating at a minimum. Energy and water are ever more often getting scars during winter time. This forces the country to build more dams, decentivizes electric transportation transitions and might result in the need for new fossil based power plants.
It is tragic that Brazil's agriculture is in fact killing Brazil's agriculture, along with native people, populations that are returning to famine, and this astonishing biodiversity. It is extremely sad, but it would help if we could drastically reduce our meet consumption (releasing evergrowing pressure for new arable land) and support these local democracies, which have in fact always supported our forests.
No beef on my plate, whether it is from Argentina, the U.S. or the Amazon. And no timber in my house from the Amazon.
You are definitely one of the best RUclipsrs I follow. Thank you so much for your work, I really think it should get more visibility.
This video is super intensely researched. You did a great job! It has been a machine gun of facts, very depressing facts actually.
Thank you. I wish it was happier news. My Sunday videos look for solutions though, so I try to keep it balanced.
@@JustHaveaThink Balance is not really a thing though when the situation is this bad and this far gone and completely lacking in any solutions. There is no fixing this, it’s a done deal. It was too late 30 years ago.
There is some minor damage control to be done, but that’s about it. All we can really do is strap in, it’s going to be a rough ride.
@@froggy0162 no change big or small is going to stop this, like you sad the time to do anything was 30 years ago. Enjoy your life the way it is the next 10-20 year are going to be chaos with most likely a war being caused by all this
Dave this is as shocking as it is heartbreaking. The Amazon rainforest has always been a jewel of our world. Its wholesale destruction is almost beyond belief. Future generations will despair at our stupidity. We all need the message you share Dave. keep up your great work
Couldn't even watch the whole thing. Amazing work, but the conclusions are incredibly challenges
SO good, so appropriate & right on time.
Thank you for sharing these sobering perspectives.
Thank you for educating us. By doing this your doing your part. Love all your effort in graphics and everything.
So Informative, as always. Thanks a lot!!
One method is purchasing no more plastic packaging: 1.) Dehydrated laundry soap sheets, 2) bar versions of hand soap, shampoo, lotion, dish soap. Also, buy no more beef (or only once per month to get needed vitamin B12). Buy no more items that contain palm or coconut oil (even though these items seem more invasive in the food supply.) Thank you for all your well documented reports.
Well some of us do all this but it’s no more than a spit in the ocean compared to the immense breaking system required on all the greed of the developed world. I’ve been a green hippy for most of my life but now at 82 it seems a waste of effort. No one seems to care and I just want to cry about Gia being trashed. ...
God that's depressing.
I remember reading stories of the deadly explorations into the Mato Grosso. Now it's covered with roads and farms. What a difference, in less than one century.
"I want to get off this train."
"Well, I get that you want to, but there's nowhere to go."
"But we're headed for a cliff. Could you at least pull the brakes?"
"Brakes? BRAKES? WHAHAHAHA! INCREASE THE SPEED!"
That's the feeling I'm getting these days.
yoko ono mind train
thirty three windows shine
How about reafforesting the USA to compensate for all these.Spread the responsibility.
@@MrShankar123456 It would be a drop in the bucket. The Amazon "was" a key lynchpin holding our ecosystem together. I think that what has been going on in Brazil over the last 15 years has had a far greater impact on global warming than fossil fuel automobiles
Every single 7.8 billion of the people alive are an engine in the train. You are asking people to have fewer children. The consequence is when they are old there will be fewer people to take care of them. The new generation will need to take care of their children and their aging parents and grandparents.
yep. Everything is going to go to shit. And I guess maybe in 10-30 years at this accelerating pace.
This is seriously distressing, watching humans engaged in a mad desperate rush to permanently screw themselves up.
You're witnessing the solution to the Fermi Paradox.
Thanks for some great (even though saddening) information.
I curse the day i found your channel and subscribed. My faith in humanity is disappearing even faster than the rainforest
Yes he leaves no stone stone unturned
Thank you for a really well presented and fascinating insight into the latest research. The interconectedness of our planet becomes more and more evident and our place in that interconectedness and our responsibility for our actions is something we all share.
Keep up the great work,as someone has to bear witness, as difficult as it can be at times when you stand back, and, just have a think. Your videos are some of the best ,if not the best on you tube regarding our climate, it is very much appreciated .And as you know , futures so bright 😎.
I appreciate your videos. Always very professional with a deep research and showing the information sources. I am Brazilian and I can not ignore the facts, starting by the fact that we have a stupid president (it does not means I like his opponents). I can not contest the numbers presented on this video but I believe that it is getting distant from the main problem: We, human beens, are addicted by energy and our main source is fossil fuel. The average emission of CO2 due to burning fossil fuel is about 35 billion tons per year. (2018).
In the last 20 years I have lived in 3 different continents and get in contact with very different cultures. The scenario is aways the same: More and more people getting angry and indignant with the situation but doing nothing to reduce the own carbon footprint. Instead of that, other reasons ( some of them true as this video) are used to blur the real problem. It is even worse when those reasons are used by politicians to achieve other goals than the carbon emission reduction.
There is no way around personal sacrifice when your eco footprint exceeds one globe. It‘s a conditio sine qua non for effective international political action.
„Do as I do“, not „do as I say“!
👍🏼 for the video 👎🏼 for the implications
Well that was a downer 😢
Let's see what we can do about it. As a certain young activist once said, "hope comes from action". What strategies are most likely to lead to the reversal of these abuses?
Education
Large scale permaculture and regenerative agricultural techniques could reverse this process
Viktor schauberger
See my comment in the main section 🍀
Logan's run
This for me is one of those rare channels I click like before I watch.
The future for the next generations is pretty bleak at best.
People born today will not grow to maturity let that sink in😥
I have to admit, we have stolen a lot from our future descendants
We really should stop talking about future generations. We are suffering today (2020's) because of what we failed to do yesterday (1980's and onward) and of course it continues to get worse. Talking about future generations sounds as if we have time that we don't have.
@@teethompson7756 As I said on other platform. Unless a tsunami hit Washington. Noting will happen.
@@Christiane069 wow you are in deep denial keep it up as long as you can cuz the real world is really ugly and scary and Final with Bleak prospects for the near-term future
I know how hard it is to see the destruction of the planet by greed and an unfair struggle for survival. I've been depressed over this subject for over 25 years... Only through processing my grief and all its stages, over and over have I come to a place where I have real hope... and this has dissolved the depression. Once you find that one thing you can do to really help and throw your efforts into it, you know you are doing your part and it feels good ;)
yeah, that's a tough one. Thank you for covering the topic. It's realizations like this, about how bad things really are that are essential to ever discern the correct solutions. Reality is that we need to provide for the people who are destroying the amazon in a way that doesn't destroy the rainforest. This is one of the key issues, how do we increase peoples prosperity, especially in the developing world without destroying the planet. There is a way, but it requires some pretty big changes!
While I completely agree with you my interpretation of the word "prosperity" is additional consumption (more/better food, more/better clothing, accommodations, travel etc etc. And while I would never suggest that those who do not have what I have should not have it, the reality is that in my country we are consuming resources at 5 times sustainability rates. I, and the vast majority of my country persons have no desire to join those who strive to have what we do. If those that have wont reduce and those who are climbing wont settle for less (and why should they) what is the solution? A catch 22.
@@richardlangley90 In the current paradigm, I completely agree. I have an idea for a new paradigm though. I think the solution is to build out green infrastructure in a way that adds as little to the carbon footprint as possible and is designed as a long term carbon sink that would be carbon negative soon, but serve long term as a carbon sink. But it's bigger than technical solutions. It requires a huge cultural change. I think we need to get rid of money(money is privilege in physical form and a right to consumption), hierarchy and privilege. We need to ask everyone to share equally in the fruits of the world and bring our consumption in line with sustainability, but if austerity is the end point and the privileged have to live in a shack, it will never work, so we need to give everyone on the planet a good life. I think we can do it and save the planet in the process. How... we can feed everyone with underground aquaponics and agrivoltaics, but how do we pay for all the new infrastructure, we have to move to a resource based economy and give people what they need, separate contribution to society from benefits from society and bring whole world consumption into sustainability. We can build miles of tunnels to grow food and use robots to do it, automation is another key... Make the tunnels with the new carbon sequestering cement, make the limestone in a solar furnace, capture all the co2 and put it back in the cement, Transport everything in electric vehicles, use solar power from agrivoltaics and other renewables to power it and it could sit there underground and spit out food and soak up carbon for thousands of years. But in the current system, who would spend billions of dollars on a system that has thousands of years payback. But in a resource based economy it's a no brainer to use our resources in that way. This is just one solution, but I considered all the angles (I think) and the end point is great, its getting there that's the problem. Anyhow, many many more solutions, but I have a complete idea to save humanity from itself and also end poverty and hunger. And in the end when we build out green planes and solar yachts, then everyone gets a share in their use and we can all have access to what was reserved for the privileged. If it can be done without a carbon footprint and is sustainable behavior. But we have to wake up and see ourselves as one people first and get rid of all these delusions that divide us... Anyway, I Gott put that piece together, explain my whole idea in a logical way... its a big project...
@@richardlangley90 In short, change the nature of prosperity to mean everyone getting what they need in a sustainable way, we can do it, have prosperity and fix climate change.
@@thepyhooyachannel8584 Al Gore tried that with India and it was rejected at the highest level, the fact of the matter is China is bring a coal fired power plant online every week and India is doing it at a slower rate, the 2 biggest populations in the world industrializing at a rate never seen before. This is unstoppable no amount of vegetable based diets or government intervention is going to stop it I predict climate crisis will bring a war in the future along with multiple countries destabilized internally.
Also one of the reasons I stopped eating meat, meat consumption has a massive effect on climate change.
I think the world has been damaged so much that it is now too late to recover.
The world will recover. Just not in a way that is habitable to our species (and many, many, many others). Life finds a way and evolution is an ingenious son of a gun.
Hegel.. God Is Dying
Nietzsche.. God Is Dead
Us.. Oh it’s definitely dead, we’re living in the extinction.
This is not an excuse to burn everything to the ground.
I very much prefer videos covering solutions over the ones that make me feel depressed about a problem I already know exists.
I do those videos every single Sunday at 2pm UK time :-)
Dest is one of my worst 10 minutes moment in all times.
JZ's Best Friend this needs more thumbs up.
@JZ's Best Friend McPherson's a quack. Dave is factual.
I was told this would happen by two government scientist in 1977 they were laughing because they say we both be dead by the the time the Earth is done somewhere in the 2020s my worst 10 minutes was it that time
@@incognitotorpedo42 I get a lot of good info from Dr. McPherson, saying he's a quack is disrepectful... the man is a messenger in his own scientific field. He tells it like it is, by citing peer-reviewed papers, and giving his own views after being treated as an alarmist. A quack is someone that would be lying to our faces about our situation. Give the man some credit.
We have known this for so long, maybe not these specific particulars but the extent of the damage we are doing has been evident. Why are we still having to protest this? It’s well past time to act as if this is someone else’s problem and start actively fixing it. I have and will continue to “fix” my little bit of land, starting with soil health and going from there. I have and will continue to pay for trees to be planted in the Amazon basin on a monthly basis. I have and will continue to educate others to these issues in the hopes that others will become as committed as I am to the care and responsible stewardship of our planet. But I do have to say I am so very very tired. Thank you for expending the emotional energy to report this. May it be renewable.
Great video as always even if it was pretty grim watching
Thank you for the personal acknowledgement at the end. I attempt to read and synthesise a lot of information about our interconnected planetary crises and this was an(other) outstanding piece of communication from this consistently high quality channel. But this research really is a gut punch. Once again, things are worse than we feared. But this one: oh, it really hurt. As someone with decades of psychic wounds from reading ecological and climate research, this one still really hurt.
It is important to note, that not buying Brazilian products will not help matters. If you refuse to buy Brazilian nonagricultural products then Brazil has no choice but to lean on slash and burn agriculture even harder. The only way to stop this is to ensure that Brazil has a path to economic prosperity that does not require these methods.
Brazil already has lots of better options towards general prosperity. But with short-sighted individual prosperity as the highest goal and with leaders supporting that to get their pockets filled along, profit margins are the only measure.
Without international eco fund money flowing to restoration projects in Brazil the Amazon will be lost. We will have to pay. There‘s no escape.
Good closing, it is so in your face sad not just theoretically scary.
The Paris process must evolve into acts of of international climate legislation. Ecocide must become a relevant issue for international Eco Courts.
Additionally countries like Brazil or Indonesia must receive substantial international funding to halt and reverse the process of rainforest degradation.
Nothing can be won if we as inhabitants of industrialised countries do not fundamentally change our unsustainable lifestyle. Vegan diet, no flying, organic farming, smaller housing, heat pump heating, cycling and walking, repair culture, local activism and green voting are essential steps.
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Much of the heavy lifting has to be done by governments (legislation, enforcement, funding, financial incentives) and companies (innovation, building the circular economy). A lot of the public will perceive that they're being asked to give something up and they won't vote for it. Build them a better alternative and the majority will come (I hope).
Good luck with ecocide justice, we can't even get genocide under control.
I do like your carbon footprint reduction suggestions. 👍
We can’t give up yet. We have to keep fighting this and help to reverse this as quick as possible.
If only Musk and Bezos would spend the money they're putting into getting to Mars on buying and saving the Amazon Jungle
He knows we are screwed and is working on an escape plan… It’s a good idea sadly.
Bezos is not getting us anywhere. Only Elon is making humanity a multiplantary species. And, no it's not the responsibility of one person to buy the amazon, even if that was possible.
The idea of us becoming a multiplanet species is laughable. We can't get along with each other on this planet much less take care of it. SMDH!!!
The money they have is pennies next to what is needed. Musk is at least pushing electric vehicles and energy storage tech (important for most green energy concepts) forward at a massively accelerated rate, and has some interest in pushing solar forward. They can't fix the economic problem though; that the atmosphere is a shared resource that we are not collectively managing. Without some form of carbon tax that gets fed back to paying to maintain the carbon sinks
If we want Brazil to maintain the rainforests for all our benefit we need to start paying them to do so. They are not going to just keep it out of national pride or international obligation. If we believe that the correct decision is for the Amazon to stay a forest then Brazil needs to see better dollar value from keeping it a forest, and that can only happen by direct payment based on forest area. The important cost to consider isn't the dollar cost of maintaining the forest ($0), it is the opportunity cost of the land. We need to start thinking realistically and accept that if something is important to us we need to pay for it if we expect it to be maintained, and that the relevant price is the opportunity cost.
@@agsystems8220 With all due respect, paying Brazil not to cut down the rainforest is a bit of a stretch. How about if we just don't buy the products they produce from that destroyed area. What lies within their borders is their business, our support (or lack of support) of their actions is our leverage.
A serious work of documentation. The topic's complexity is really something.
I always thought that hydro power was green but it appears that it's not as green as I believed.
It‘s these mega dams that are detrimental. We need small decentralised communal energy production including small hydro power plants. We not only have to take down fossil fuel corporations. We will also have to dismantle the big electricity producers that force these mega projects to maximise profits for the top 1% shareholders.
I think everyone did, but it would seem we have wildly underestimated things.
@@achenarmyst2156 I'm not sure a 100 micro dams are going to be any less problematic than one big one.
It seems like we think we are on the right path and then find we are actually creating 10 more
Thanks for the work done, it's immense. This is so much more complicated than thought, which in itself impedes any action being taken. Basically, we're screwed.
This video would be interesting if we had not discussed all these topics, in depth, in my geography class 30 years ago!
What's actually interesting (and depressing) is that 30 years on (or longer) and the lesson for those who need to learn it is yet to be learned.
@JZ's Best Friend "Not that it will matter within a foreseeable future" That is the exact attitude that has caused nothing to be done!
It pains me to "like" this video. I mean, the quality is great and content is well presented! The content itself, though, is deeply saddening. Thanks for another thought provoking video!
As I always say, this is an issue of political economy, and the environment is simply telling us to knock it the f++k off
Why is this not pinned? Political economy is the binding constraint paralyzing policy.
Well, this was as disheartening as I thought it would be.😢
This video really points out how all this is interconnected, and if every nation, every world leader doesn't come together to tackle this problem we don't have a chance.
The way you're ending this clip is 'funny'. The rictus on that face...Cognitive dissonance: "(ya, I'm supposed to smile after thanking my viewers and donors) see you next time, but, tabarnak, on est dans la marde"
Thank you for these videos. I like to be well informed and to see reality face to face. I am an older person. Not much left to lose. I grieve for the future.
Oh nice. The more we study this field the more we find how fuked up we will be.
I think you meant to say, "we are".
@@9squares we are mostly fine right now but things will go down the slope pretty quick.
Dave, you are a very talented presenter and producer. Please keep up your great work, even though it is hard for you on a personal level. Let's hope the world wakes up in time.
If we don’t fix it, mama earth will fix us!
@JZ's Best Friend No! Life, once coming into existence by “evolution” of molecules into self reproducing organic molecules (see Manfred Eigen) is nearly indestructible (except cosmic and human made “disasters”) They can live “forever” even in empty space. There will be cells and simple microorganisms until the sun will not exist anymore.
Outstanding video! Well done; keep it up!
We need major energy conservation by EACH individual. soy-to-animal feed-to animals can be stopped with consumers buying a lot less meat. Palm oil production for shelf-stable cookies and cakes can be stopped by consumer choices. Are you cold in the winter? Put a sweater on (lots of humans live without central heat, can't 'modern humans figure it out!) The human desire for self destruction is uncanny.
Political action is the only thing with the scale to really make a difference. If consumers put too much effort into personal action, they'll feel like they've "done their part" and won't pursue political solutions.
I think it would be interesting to see a video comparing home heating to heavier clothe usage. By one hand, it saves energy for heating, but by the other it consumes water and energy for washing (and drying, depending on the climate) the cloths. Which one is worse? Is the answer to this question the same in every climate? Maybe in really cold places the two measures could be combined (heating to 10°C, for instance, and putting lighter jackets)
@@srpenguinbr I agree. Life cycle assessments of our choices do need to be done. Wash clothes in cold water and hanging them to dry (yes, I have a clothes line) should bring down the energy impact of extra clothing. I can't remember when I bought a new piece of clothing--I buy used from consignment shops or Goodwill. I used to read under a brooder lamp instead of heating the whole house; it's toasty under the light! I'm not poor and I've saved thousands of dollars over the years.
Love your information. Watch all your vids.
the covid situation thought us that people can't follow some simple rules doe their own safety. somethin as complex as changing totally lifestyle, purchasing habits, diet etc, i have no hope tbh
Yes. Behavior will not change significantly until the big shocks come, by which time it is too late. It will take mass mortality events such as coastal areas being inundated, widespread crop failure, or wet bulb temperatures being exceeded before we see any serious, concerted efforts made to address the crisis.
A list of things to buy and not to buy, habits we can all adopt to help . I am trying to do my little bit but we ALL need to change.
Trees are never enough to offset GHG emissions. If that was the case, then pre-industrial rice farming fuel-burning for the sake of cooking and for heating homes would not have gotten us out of an ice age.
Now, post--industry, we have the opposite problem to ice age: drought and heating.
Thanks for this detailed, important summary. Should be compulsory viewing for all humans.
It's infuriating that the Brazilian people elected Bolsonaro as their president, it's almost as infuriating as the fact that the US elected Ronald Reagan, George W Bush and Donald Trump when they had viable alternatives.
I also do not like Bolsonaro but telling that there was viable alternatives at that time in Brazil ( second round of election) means you have no idea about what is going on there.
@@fabiopintocesar1615 OK. Tell me how Fernando Haddad was worse. This is a genuine question. I'm not Brazilian, not even Latin American so please elaborate.
Thank you. But this is so depressing
Go as plant based as you can so you can become sustainable. 👍
Or buy your meat from a regenerative agriculture farm that captures more carbon than they generate.
@@Gengh13 i've never heard of that. which farm is that?
@@planetvegan7843 belcampo is a good example, of course your best option is to buy from a farm as close to you as possible, to minimize the excess carbon produced by transportation and maximize the captured carbon.
@@Gengh13 thanks for you reply! I would like to learn about regenerative agriculture. Can you direct me to an explanation of how it works please?
@@planetvegan7843 I don't have an introductory video at hand, but the basis of it is to use ruminants to eat the grass at the end of their maximum growing phase and fertilize (manure and urine) and stomp what remains forcing the growth to start again, by moving the ruminants and having different sections at different phases of the circle you are constantly feeding them and new grass is constantly growing and capturing carbon.
If ruminants don't eat the grass, it stops growing as fast and eventually starts to decay, releasing a lot of the stored carbon, thats why I believe that regenerative agriculture is a really essential tool in improving top soil, capturing carbon and producing food.
This may not be the best explanation, but it may be of some use. I have to look for a good short introductory video to share.
Thanks, Dave, for yet another wake up call. Excellent piece, will share.
There is no enforcement mechanism in place to halt any of this , we have collectively set our course and unfortunately every other earthling is going down with us.
The only power that remains to effect change is the power of superior numbers. If enough people wake up and participate in sustained mass demonstrations of non-violent civil disobedience against the mindless sociopaths at the top, the very worst outcome might be averted. Personally, I'm not holding my breath in anticipation.
Super video. Thank you. Another ten or twenty years and the Amazon primeval forest is history.
If you had to wreck the environment, aside from nucular weapons, what would you different to what we are doing already? I haven't got an answer to this.
Brilliant information as always - and also scary as always.
This is just awful news. If only people would just reduce the amount of meat and dairy they eat, it has to make a difference.
I switch from vegetarian to vegan every now and again, and although I don't begrudge people eating what they want - it's the 'quantity' I begrudge. Surely reducing meat in meals to 2 times (better still, once) a week would make a significant difference.
It makes me feel sick to see these 'recommendations' for videos on YT that show someone eating a vast steak, a large number of burgers, a giant meat ramen, or some other disgusting act of gluttony. It shows a lack of consideration on so many levels.
About time we had World War 2 ration books for meat again. Make those who eat meat truly appreciate what they have - instead of allowing it to continue to be a cheap, easily available food.
This would encourage us in the spoiled west to 'not' allow our kids to leave half-eaten burgers and hot dogs on plates in cafes. The waste of food I see now was not tolerated at all when I was a child - and we were a thinner, healthier population back then.
As a child, my parents complained that meat was expensive, and it was something that had to be eaten up completely or you'd get a slap, sent to bed, and it was fed to you again the next day. Cold.
24 Co-Authors! That's a heck of an accomplishment just coordinating all those contributions! Thanks for bringing this paper to our attention, as depressing as the findings are...
We knew for a while now that this 7 billion + humans on this planet wasn't gonna fly. If only there was a hero who could snap his finger and reduce the population in half.
Treating the symptom will not treat the disease, and it would not be long until humanity was right back at these population numbers. Individuals must make changes in their day to day lives, the way they interact and relate to the world, their cultural approach to living on this planet, in order for this to turn around. It is a lesson in personal and collective responsibility, ultimately.
@@acro1427 Population levels are going down globally due to no one can afford to raise children anymore or that or we live in a culture that is too selfish to raise children. Human are too self involved to want to participate in collective responsibility. People will recycle and feel good about that and get in their ICE SUV and get paid. Prove me wrong children.
I've brought this up before.
Human population has increased eight-fold in 125 years.
This earth could _probably_ sustain two billion, but it sure can't support eight.
@@jimurrata6785 And yet here come 8.
I appreciate the to the point video which expands on what we have known for more than 3 decades and was and will continue to be ignored... I don't see a reality where big business and government wake up from their money making wet dream soon enough to divert us from weather change so drastic that most of us will not survive and the ones that do will wish they hadn't.
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Finally someone highlighting how damaging hydro electric energy is. We talk endlessly about how bad for the environment Nuclear power is- yet compared to large scale hydro it's footprint is microscopic.