Previous Hades Canyon review: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3282-hades-canyon-review-intel-amd-pressure-nvidia-nuc8i7hvk Grab one of the GN Anti-Static Modmats here: store.gamersnexus.net/
If you want to do this a little less...Tiewrappy? I'd like to suggest making a pair of dxf's to get lasercut. 1 would slot over the cooling block, the other you could make protrude from the PCB sides underneath-backed by rubber to prevent shorts - If you added a few small rectangle cut outs, in each block, they would make good tiewrap mount locations. Obviously at this point you're not gonna stop, but just a thought for next time =)
Why not use the 4 mounting holes already on the motherboard? All you'd need to do is turn the water block 45 degrees, and 3D print a frame to fit over the top. Would take like 20-30 minutes to set up properly including the print time.
Bahaha I love how you stop mid sentence and quick inspect to make sure you didn't warp the board during the makeshift installation. Smashed that like button at that point lolol
It's not even 3pm where I live, but I'm having a beer while watching Gamers Nexus videos, and it shot out my nose when Steve made the deadpan joke about how much more portable the new Gamers Nexus NUC liquid cooler (patent pending) is over stock. Thanks, Steve.
I wouldn't be surprised if you have to put the fans back on, might not boot if it doesn't detect the fans and I would't imagine it's something that can be deactivated in that bios
Nice! Looks exactly like my try when I had an intel dual core but my only decent cooler was for AMD, so I 'zip-weave™®℠ed' the huge copper block onto the board with no screws. Who needs standardisation in a world with tape and zipties....
This is probably a little late but if you get a small bar clamp that could help hold the cooler down a lot. Theyre usually rubber on both clamping surfaces and you can adjust the tension of the clamp pretty finely. C clamps would probably work too and give you finer adjustment but theyre metal on the clamps so youd have to put some kind of rubber insulator on the ends to make sure you dont short anything out. Probably too late but im sure this would work waaaaay better than zip ties. But you do risk cracking the whole board going this route
"Give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move to world" said Archimedes. And I say: "Give me some zip ties, and I shall fix the lever if it breaks".
Hey Steve, Mounting suggestion. Whay do you think of using a block on the backside, under the zip ties and opposite the cooler, to reduce the tortion on the motherboard and directly sandwich the CPU+GPU? Or perhaps a steadier and easier setup: 2 C-clamps, a block for the backside as suggested above, and 2 small planks(about the length or width of the motherboard). One plank goes underneath, then the block, then the motherboard with cooler on top, then the second plank parallel to the first, finally C-clamp both ends of both planks such that they sandwich everything. Also could use the table as the bottom plank for maximum stability.
I really love the idea of this NUC, Watercooling it with some sketchy setup just makes it even better, just a thought but surely a threadripper or one of the new Xeon socket Watercooling plates would cover everything? VRM included?
I Want to say ty for doing this sort of thing, especially with the likes of the 1080 as I applied the same method to my reference gtx970 and holy balls
you could put the block on 45deg. angle, exposing all 4 mounting holes and guide zip ties throught them (or screws with some custom plate from eg. wood)
Please use a metal plate that won't bend on the bottom of it. Make sure something non conducting is between it and the board. Maybe have some thermal pads. Then zip tie. This will cause less flex. Flexing will cause issues with the many bga chips.
I like to position the end of the ziptie on an edge, to account for the deflection from the 90° angle formed at the junction. But that's probably mostly just aesthetic.
Wow... how did you pull off an nVidia sponsorship after 'negatively' reporting on GPP? Kudos to you. P.S. did they know this spot would be on a video where AMD graphics was featured? LOLZ
If I can scrape to together the pennies quite fancy trying to do a passive build like "the fanless guy" has done with a large extruded heatsink. My biggest worry is trying to get contact with the vrm's. But after watching this video, thermal gluing the heat sink to the existing vapour chamber seems to be an option, just hope they conduct heat as effectively through the depth of the chamber as they do laterally.
What I wonder about is how much would it let you overclock if you had put liquid metal and stock heatsync on rather than liquid cooler. Would love to see this.
How about just use a one cubic inch wooden block on the liquid cooler so the force is applied on the middle of the liquid cooler. The zip ties would be more effective with the setup I suggested.
what about a board length clamp, that would stop any bending and give you more pressure on the socket. Imagine four beams that cross the shortest side of the board, 2 on top and 2 at the bottom clamped at each end.
AGAIN!!!!, Intel is dropping Z370 support for 9th gen CPUs next year. I felt sorry for people with 7th gen CPUs but this is too much. I'm only hoping for Zen 2 to really shine next year and show Intel what's up.
Now here's an idea; Inverse-mounting a conventional Asetek block with a 3D-printed top which has screw posts for a conventional X86 processor. Then once mounted to the top of the case, secure with the six case screws to mount at a fixed height. If you want to appease the 3D printing gods you would post the design freely for modification with other coolers.
I just picked up one of these. I have some of the older NUCs (5i7RYH and others). While the LC looks very cool and allows you to overclock to max, are there quieter replacement fans (such as from QuietPC or other)?
Picked up this NUC version for $550 (usd) new. Another $300 for 16gb(8gbx2 ) ddr4 2660mhz ram sticks and a 2TB Intel 660P to be used as an HTPC, I'm quite happy with it.
The MasterLiquid Maker 92 maaay have fit on it as well. Might have been able to zip tie it through the stock holes since it has really small bracket footprint. Much smaller radiator though so it may not have been up to the task anyway.
did you just make a peanut butter joke.... JIF? for reals.. just start calling them giraphics cards and we can complete the circle! On another note, I appreciate the content. keep this good stuff coming. you're friend, the angry internet commenter.
Is that a TR4 cooler or just a normal one? I feel like a TR4 cooler would mean that the fins in the coldplate will be directly over the chips but there might be a problem with ziptieing it down
if you are using zip ties, why not put the liquid cooler over the vapor chamber? that way you are sure that there is contact with all the important components.
Previous Hades Canyon review: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3282-hades-canyon-review-intel-amd-pressure-nvidia-nuc8i7hvk
Grab one of the GN Anti-Static Modmats here: store.gamersnexus.net/
If you want to do this a little less...Tiewrappy?
I'd like to suggest making a pair of dxf's to get lasercut. 1 would slot over the cooling block, the other you could make protrude from the PCB sides underneath-backed by rubber to prevent shorts - If you added a few small rectangle cut outs, in each block, they would make good tiewrap mount locations.
Obviously at this point you're not gonna stop, but just a thought for next time =)
Zip Tie of Beauty!
Nice video Steve, 1 question can you mod the fans of this unit, for 2 low profile 15mm fans example: noctua NF-A12x15 PWM fans ??
Why not use the 4 mounting holes already on the motherboard? All you'd need to do is turn the water block 45 degrees, and 3D print a frame to fit over the top. Would take like 20-30 minutes to set up properly including the print time.
10:28 SteveTechTips
You know you are an enthusiast when the cooling apparatus is larger and heavier than the system you are cooling. Next, 420 rad on Samsung S8.
Ggchb Gig ghb how about a note 8?? Lol
Ohio Houston or a note 7, they got hot! ;)
Ohio Houston you need a bomb proof container
How about the fucking zony xperia z3+ or z5, fucking hot phones
514aam Snapdragon 810 Powered HTC M9......or any other Snapdragon 810 phone, cook some bacon and eggs on that thing
next step: send it to buildzoid for LN2.
but only with ZOMBIE POWER !
Yes please.
Liquid cooling? Just replace the stock fans with a Dyson - Instant 7 Ghz on both Cpu & Gpu
That's insane! World Record in Hades Canyon OC incoming? Love the video, outstanding work as always guys! Keep it up. :)
"to.. eh bend the pcb that much.. It's a little bent" I can't be the only one that totally lost it and burst out in laughter? :D
Christian Ivarsson you're not alone
Fuckkkkkk..... that shit!!!!!!
Steve inspecting as he talks - "We didn't apply enough force to eh...( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).....( ͡⊙ ͜ʖ ͡⊙)...uh bend the PCB that much...."?
I'm sure airport security would have no issues with you bringing that on to a plane
Tech Jesus performs another miracle
Walking in a sea of thermal paste
Praise Be
@@Aether776 That's gonna smell.
"God why do you smell like concrete?"
I am glad at least one channel is coming up with unique video and not the same monotonous garbage like the others.
Bahaha I love how you stop mid sentence and quick inspect to make sure you didn't warp the board during the makeshift installation. Smashed that like button at that point lolol
Overwhelmed by the International-Space-Station grade, ultra high precision oozing high-techiness shown in this video to couple parts. Hats off! ;)
Gamers Nexus Humour... i am a fan!
This channel has way too little subs for the indepth content it produce!
His RUclips channel isnt his main outlet. And it's relatively new. This channel will get up there soon enough
Not soon enough! :D
It's not even 3pm where I live, but I'm having a beer while watching Gamers Nexus videos, and it shot out my nose when Steve made the deadpan joke about how much more portable the new Gamers Nexus NUC liquid cooler (patent pending) is over stock. Thanks, Steve.
Love the liquid cooling of everything :D
All I can say is thank you. I've been waiting to see this for a while now.
Metallica and Kanye made a song together, cats and dogs get along, oil and water mix.... Intel and AMD make a PC
I wouldn't be surprised if you have to put the fans back on, might not boot if it doesn't detect the fans and I would't imagine it's something that can be deactivated in that bios
Looking forward to the first custom cnc'ed water cooling system and case for this.
Thats some sweet tech there..good one mate
Nice! Looks exactly like my try when I had an intel dual core but my only decent cooler was for AMD, so I 'zip-weave™®℠ed' the huge copper block onto the board with no screws. Who needs standardisation in a world with tape and zipties....
That face when you said "its a little bent".. lmao :D Great Video as always !!
Maaan this makes me love you guys so much
This is probably a little late but if you get a small bar clamp that could help hold the cooler down a lot. Theyre usually rubber on both clamping surfaces and you can adjust the tension of the clamp pretty finely. C clamps would probably work too and give you finer adjustment but theyre metal on the clamps so youd have to put some kind of rubber insulator on the ends to make sure you dont short anything out. Probably too late but im sure this would work waaaaay better than zip ties. But you do risk cracking the whole board going this route
"its a little bent.... it'll be okay.." you dont sound so sure there LMAO
CANNOT wait for part 2
Great video Steve, really good content.
Also good to see MSI is still partnering with you after being blasted on their laptop bloatware :)
"Give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move to world" said Archimedes. And I say: "Give me some zip ties, and I shall fix the lever if it breaks".
Something for TR4 might have the surface area. (That be quite seemed to do great)
Hey Steve, Mounting suggestion. Whay do you think of using a block on the backside, under the zip ties and opposite the cooler, to reduce the tortion on the motherboard and directly sandwich the CPU+GPU? Or perhaps a steadier and easier setup: 2 C-clamps, a block for the backside as suggested above, and 2 small planks(about the length or width of the motherboard). One plank goes underneath, then the block, then the motherboard with cooler on top, then the second plank parallel to the first, finally C-clamp both ends of both planks such that they sandwich everything. Also could use the table as the bottom plank for maximum stability.
I never thought GN would turn into a Ziptie ASMR channel.
Very cool video thank you I can hardly wait to see the results.
Thank you Steve. I swear I was thinking of liquid cooling for the 8809g.
I really love the idea of this NUC, Watercooling it with some sketchy setup just makes it even better, just a thought but surely a threadripper or one of the new Xeon socket Watercooling plates would cover everything? VRM included?
Yes, but for 2 things.
1. they are too wide
2. they still wouldn't make mounting easier
I Want to say ty for doing this sort of thing, especially with the likes of the 1080 as I applied the same method to my reference gtx970 and holy balls
Love my ifix kits.. I support you advertising with them
you could put the block on 45deg. angle, exposing all 4 mounting holes and guide zip ties throught them (or screws with some custom plate from eg. wood)
next video should be interesting looking forward to watching it 5.6ghz Go for it Steve
now that there is a good thermal solution im going to buy a nuc
I was just waiting for someone to try this!!!
you could glue the nucs mounting plate to the cooler then put a block of copper in the gap for making contact with the chip.
Awesome, this is where that old Zalman Reserator would've been handy.
Man, Jamers Nexus never disappoints do they?
掰了半天，发现有个螺丝没拆。最服你
Please use a metal plate that won't bend on the bottom of it. Make sure something non conducting is between it and the board. Maybe have some thermal pads. Then zip tie. This will cause less flex. Flexing will cause issues with the many bga chips.
Maybe you can collaborate with DIY Perks to build a custom case for your watercooled NUC.
"Zipties"
Wow sounds kinda nuts
"Laptop liquid cooling parts ***from AliExpress***"
HAVE YOU GONE INSANE?!
Breaking news: American tech reviewer arrested by TSA for a suspicious thermal device in his carry on.
Big LOL :-D
Can't wait for part 2 so we can see if actually works!
I like to position the end of the ziptie on an edge, to account for the deflection from the 90° angle formed at the junction. But that's probably mostly just aesthetic.
JIPHZ 0:56
We should ask him what kind of jifts he wants for his birthday.
Frog Cartoons Are Racist Nazis LMAOOOO
Now THAT'S how a mod should look like
Wow... how did you pull off an nVidia sponsorship after 'negatively' reporting on GPP? Kudos to you. P.S. did they know this spot would be on a video where AMD graphics was featured? LOLZ
Daniel Ladishew i think it was more msi than nvidia
"We didn't apply enough force to...**Vietnam flashback**...bend the pcb that much" :D
If I can scrape to together the pennies quite fancy trying to do a passive build like "the fanless guy" has done with a large extruded heatsink. My biggest worry is trying to get contact with the vrm's. But after watching this video, thermal gluing the heat sink to the existing vapour chamber seems to be an option, just hope they conduct heat as effectively through the depth of the chamber as they do laterally.
Could you also please do a testing with the normal heatsink with liquid metal? Liquid cooling tests with and without LM would be fine too :P
quality content. this is as interesting as National Geographic!
Yes! This is what I love
What I wonder about is how much would it let you overclock if you had put liquid metal and stock heatsync on rather than liquid cooler. Would love to see this.
Ators Channel same! thats what i was hoping they would test before going with water cooling
cliffhanger of the century
Get some skinny zip ties through the mounting holes for the backplate/vapor chamber
Since the board is outside of its case now, are you going to review the out-of-the-box temperatures?
How about just use a one cubic inch wooden block on the liquid cooler so the force is applied on the middle of the liquid cooler. The zip ties would be more effective with the setup I suggested.
what about a board length clamp, that would stop any bending and give you more pressure on the socket. Imagine four beams that cross the shortest side of the board, 2 on top and 2 at the bottom clamped at each end.
I feel like if you took that to an airport you'd be shot before you finished saying "jurryrigged" but sure, jurryrigged thermal device. Lol
This whole operation had me on the floor, I kept going, HE ISN'T....HE WOULDN'T.....OH MY *pukes* lmao
Woodworking clamp.
AGAIN!!!!, Intel is dropping Z370 support for 9th gen CPUs next year. I felt sorry for people with 7th gen CPUs but this is too much. I'm only hoping for Zen 2 to really shine next year and show Intel what's up.
@Gamers Nexus Did you change the lens? Seems like you're using a wide angle lens.
Now here's an idea; Inverse-mounting a conventional Asetek block with a 3D-printed top which has screw posts for a conventional X86 processor. Then once mounted to the top of the case, secure with the six case screws to mount at a fixed height. If you want to appease the 3D printing gods you would post the design freely for modification with other coolers.
I just picked up one of these. I have some of the older NUCs (5i7RYH and others). While the LC looks very cool and allows you to overclock to max, are there quieter replacement fans (such as from QuietPC or other)?
Steve and undervolting / overclocking video for the dell xps 15 with vega M GL is required!!!!
Picked up this NUC version for $550 (usd) new. Another $300 for 16gb(8gbx2
) ddr4 2660mhz ram sticks and a 2TB Intel 660P to be used as an HTPC, I'm quite happy with it.
So basically you were saying "BeQuiet please send me bags of zip ties! Pucks all the time get boring."
Why not full immersion oil cooling? No mounting needed. It's small enough, I think it might just be able to work.
The MasterLiquid Maker 92 maaay have fit on it as well. Might have been able to zip tie it through the stock holes since it has really small bracket footprint. Much smaller radiator though so it may not have been up to the task anyway.
Now witness the firepower of this liquid cooled and over clocked Hades Canyon!
did you just make a peanut butter joke.... JIF? for reals.. just start calling them giraphics cards and we can complete the circle! On another note, I appreciate the content. keep this good stuff coming. you're friend, the angry internet commenter.
Greath video man. Wondering what screw driver set u used.
So how long until you release a NUC to AIO adapter? Sell it with an adapter to install the board into a mini ITX case and I'd buy it
00:56 GIFs not JIFs,
and i don't care about peanut butter
unsibscribed
god dammit, I was gonna make that joke!
Bhume you mean a goke
Try WATER COOLING with WINE since your tech nickname is Tech JESUS!
Stefan Smiljkovik idk Tech Jesus doesn't seem like the wine cooler kind of guy.
More like a whiskey man, for sure.
Is that a TR4 cooler or just a normal one? I feel like a TR4 cooler would mean that the fins in the coldplate will be directly over the chips but there might be a problem with ziptieing it down
that is the most frankenstein device i have ever seen
Should probably go with Drilling the mounting plate of a AIO and bolt modding it in.
GN goes full LTT strapping the block down. Love it, 😂 🤣
Out of shot, Steve is rock n socks and sandals too
#RIPLTT
I don't remember hitting like on this video, but after hearing the airport security joke, I know that it was worth it.
How would liquid metal perform as a TIM for the stock cooler I wonder
With all the ubiquitous availability of 3D printers, why not to make a test chasis for this project to have a better chance of success?
Sweet dude thinking outside the box
if you are using zip ties, why not put the liquid cooler over the vapor chamber? that way you are sure that there is contact with all the important components.
Will it even boot without its fans? Some oem systems won't boot if they think there's a fan failure. I guess we'll find out in the second video.
Why did Intel use the Skull again? It's Hades Canyon now... A demon would have made more sense to me. Sick video guys, thanks! =]
this is chaos. madness
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a tank lol
"It's a little bent. It'll be okay."
I feel like that gets said at Apple HQ a lot.
you guy's need to hire a full time Jurry-rigger
Soo... how's that patient going for the new mounting for AIO water blocks?
When will this patent pending watercooling mount system be available in the GN store?
Maybe a copper shim between the cores and the cooler will allow the cooler to not contact other parts?