Dennis prager: “I don’t see colour race means nothing to me” Also Dennis prager: *exclusively gets black people who agree with me to do segments on black issues to not appear racist*
@@yatarookayama8329 Thats the literal opposite of how racism forms. Native Canadian children filled shallow graves because the British occupiers didnt give a shit about them, their culture, their religion, and their race. Thats why they were killed. Fuck off with this "caring less is good" no its not. Want people to care less about the sanctity of white people? Thought not.
Dennis Prager : "The moral confusion of the left" Also Dennis Prager : *Shows a document from the University of Columbia, and speaks about Disney and the U.S. Army* Thank you, Dennis Prager, for remembering us that fascists are anti-intellectuals and morons.
@@yatarookayama8329 that’s not what that mean, by being “colorblind” you don’t see race as a social construct and that it doesn’t affect the individual when it clearly does. Basically when you don’t see race, you don’t see racism either even when the results are quite clear
No they get upset because leftists have no character to speak of and, judge conservatives by an ever shifting scale set exclusively by the left and, that they often violate their own maxims just a month or, so after they set them. As they have moved on to the next maxim they arbitrarily set.
@@jebediahrage8273 yeah that's not accurate. The left and, the right celebrate things they have no control over as exclusively in themselves. The right on the other hand values personal accountability in all things. Where as the left shifts the blame exclusively on to others. It's societies fault why I'm fat. It's societies fault why I'm poor, it's societies fault that trans people kill themselves at higher rates than any other group of people. I can go on but, I think you see the point. I'd rather go with the side that takes the credit but, will also accept the responsibility of their actions.
Every time someone brings up the "colorblindness" concept in regards to race it always reminds me of the episode of The Office where Michael is like "STANLEY! I don't see you as BLACK!" and then the diversity training guy is like "No, Michael, we don't want to do that because it's like fighting ignorance with ignorance". If you're trying to suggest something Michael Scott gets called out for in The Office is a good thing to do, odds are you're in some strange territory and shouldn't be giving advice.
man as a kid I was yelled at for using a dark orange and thinking is orange and purple thinking is blue and light and dark green and thinking that colors was green
@@oscarbainbridge8656 That's not what colorblindness enables because when you don't 'see race" you inadvertently ignore the clear signs of racism. If you don't see race, then you kinda enable said behavior by trying to blame a racist problem on something else. Being colorblind isn't based, stop saying based anytime someone says something you agree with, that's pretty basic
@@innitbruv-lascocomics9910 This is a misconstruing of the term. Very few people don't believe in issues directly related to race. You can choose to not see race in the people around you whilst also acknowledging when racism is happening
@@oscarbainbridge8656 okay so your not always being colour blind? So you owned yourself in your own explanation. And you can still see colour while treating everyone equal..
They can also see, for example, lepto/meso/platyrrhiny (nostril widths), which are often a much better way of determining a person's race than the amount of melanin they have. Or how curly or straight their hair is. Race is much more than just skin color.
Yeah, this is the channel that made a video in which they called John Brown a 'radical abolitionist' and praised Robert E. Lee's wisdom of understanding that black people were better off enslaved than staying back in Africa.
@@RalphNC09 they released a video where they praised Robert E Lee for putting down abolitionists. The backlash from their own fans was enough that they deleted the video (you can still find it on RUclips because of how many people covered it) and then went on a whole "we can't be racist, here's this black guy to tell you so!" Shtick.
Viruses can't be racist. I don't understand why this even has to be said. Even if there was a virus that only effected a specific race, it wouldn't be because the virus is racist, it would be because it's.... Doing virus stuff. Because that's all viruses do. They do virus stuff.
"Doctor, I've been shot by a cop..." "Well, what's the big deal about it being a cop? We live in a colorblind world, judge the cop by their character, not their... character being a cop!"
i dont watch as often anymore, because quite frankly politics is really exhausting (even as much as i love arguing), but i always watch your prageru videos, because without fail theyre always informative AND funny. good job coconut man
I love how his colorblind example of a black woman is named Tamika and a Latin man is named Jose. Someone had to animate that script and he couldn't even get this out of his studio without utilizing stereotypes.
Yeah, I appreciate Vaush taking the time to discuss the issue, but I feel like most of the time when someone says they "don't see race" (at least in serious political discussion) they are so obviously racist, that it's a waste of time to discuss the issues with colorblind policies with them. Just call them on their racist bullshit and move on.
@@thebxx724 Exactly. There are real discussions to be had about the biases in how people view themselves and their actions, but the majority of people on the right are just repeating bad faith talking points and talking them seriously is just a waste of time.
@@connorsullivan1855 The leaders making these arguments are knowingly lying. Their goal is to convince the general public. Regular people use colorblindness because they aren't educated on the subject. Vaush is trying to speak to them
I feel the best comparison to this would be along the ableism line. Seeing somebody is disabled in some way is to acknowledge their struggles but not to judge them by that disability. Imagine prager arguing he doesn’t see disability. Just goes around breaking ramps up into long stairways in the name of seeing everyone equally.
Are you arguing the differences between "races" (which are social constructs btw) are akin to differences in ability between able-bodied and disabled people?
@@timkratz742 they are both marginalized groups to the larger able-bodied or non-racialized population. To acknowledge someone’s position may provide context for their experiences in the world we share, helping us empathize and engage accordingly. It’s literally just abt empathizing with people who may not have had the same life experiences as you, and seeing their humanity beyond your biases. Imagine a world built for disabled folks where able-bodies hold a smaller population and how the world may be completely different for able-bodies. The ability to see the other perspective is what is lacking in the “colourblind” argument, as with this analogy.
"Colourblindness" is like refusing to pay damages for a decades-long wildfire your grandpa started for his own profit, which you inherited, and being completely able to extinguish and atone for it if you would just take some accountability, because you say you're "fireblind."
If black people are disproportionately poor and you want to disproportionately help them then help the poor. The affirmative action bullshit leaves poor whites in the dust and just assumes their privilege will magically help them. It also pretends that successful poc are oppressed when they have far more privilege than most whites do.
@@dragongamer4753 Nonsense - both are necessary. It's not about the oppression olympics or any of that nonsense, but if you truly want to help whole *communities* escape and sustainably avoid poverty, you're gonna need to take their other sociological qualifiers into account, such as ethnic and cultural background. I have no idea why you've went off on this tangent about affirmative action and poor whites. If you're so crazy about helping poverty in general, go advocate for that instead of pulling it out as an excuse to deny the same for POC. Sounds to me like you're a lot more concerned with black people *not* having a fair shake than with poor people getting one.
@@PM-xu2nq I think you're reading their comment with too much cynicism. I think they're just saying if you want to help some groups disproportionately, help those issues that they need help with but don't put racial qualifiers on who can get the help. And I agree with that. Every race has poor people and even if the reason was your dad spent the family money at the casino and blew his inheritance before you were born, that person should get help. Ancestral wealth that evaporated before you could benefit doesn't help you
@DragonGamer 475 You're being reductive. The economic status of minority groups is massively effected by whether or not there is systemic oppression. And the existence of affluent people in minority groups is not an argument against systemic oppression. Dealing with the nebulous poor is great, but does that change that minority groups like black and hispanic people are targeted by police at a higher rate? Does it change that black and hispanic people receive higher prison sentences than their white counterparts with the same criminal record and are more often exonerated for the crimes they were convicted of? Does it change that banks are denying personal and business loans to minority groups at a higher rate? Does it change the fact that black people are denied housing at a higher rate than white people? Or that black people have started to use their white friends to sell their homes because when the evaluators know the house is owned by black people it is undervalued on the market? Without actually addressing these things, nothing actually changes. All of these questions (aside from the last, which is more anecdotal, but still easily found with a search engine) are based on statistical data and are demonstrably occurring.
“imagine that tomorrow every human being woke up blind. would they be more or less racist” actually broke me i had to pause just to laugh for a good 5 minutes
@@woobiefuntime Okay, but what if they woke up colorblind? Thinking in the idea that people are born colorblind and don't actually have the functionality within their brain to see race. They would certainly not be racist.
Texas, and it will be riddle with sexual misconduct claims from women students and teachers against both male teachers and male students, so probably shut down in a month.
@@margotpreston if you can’t be a color than color is not race and Vaush has no argument. Color is not identity. Color does not identify See where Vaush said: “…the only thing we can see is color” So then what does color identify? Where is the color?
@@peoples2296 not being judged on the color of your skin ( not having to ride the back of the bus, separated toilets, being unfairly treated by the criminal justice system, being disadvantaged in being able to get a loan etc.) IS NOT THE SAME as neglecting potential problems that are statistically tied to race. don't forget pragerU is the platform that championed the 13/50 statistic and they WERE NOT implying it was due being historically socially and economically 'neglected' but because, due to pragerU apparently, 'black people are just worse'...
@@peoples2296 no but when you look at only ONE quote from a public figure you can make any person look reasonable or wrong. Thinking you know all of MLK Jr’s beliefs from one out of context quote is hilariously stupid or wilfully ignorant
@@obamaslefteyeball1710 can you explain how its out of context? When I see people claiming that colorblindness is racist it just comes across as completely unnuanced and thoughtless to me.
Dennis Prager, after going house-to-house, blinding everyone in their sleep: "We did it, Charlie Kirk!! We *stopped* racism!" [Society in flames and chaos all around them]
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." (Anatole France) Colorblindness is just the same principle applied to skin color.
Dennis Prager has to know since he's old enough, I was a kid and I remember. I remember people asking can you get it from toilet seats can you get it from pay phones(😏 remember pay phones) people were wondering could you get it from mosquito bites and I remember judges saying that they didn't want people with AIDS in their courtrooms because people had to sit on the benches after they got done using them. And we all know Dennis Prager has to remember all of this. Because this was around about 1982.
To Vaush's point about depression, alienation, and suicidality disproportionately affecting white people, I'd point out that there's plenty of evidence that mental health issues in general are still heavily stigmatized in many minority communities, so even if those things are present in comparable numbers, they are bound to go underreported. Still, I acknowledge that suburban living does often lead to higher rates of those things.
Yep, mental illness is pretty much non-existent in the Asian community (that I am part of) because Asian immigrants and Asian cultures as a whole does not acknowledge mental illness. Mental illnesses are instead attributed as character flaws and people are deemed to be deserving of whatever afflict them, or even death. Whatever stats there are, it's most likely massively underreported and estimated because no one in said cultural community would even admit or think they have mental health issues because they'll be shunned as an outcast by their families and communities. It is starting to change but fact is minority immigrant communities tend also to be conservative.
I'd say it's more so less income to address mental health issues and distrust of the US medical system after the baby times it has let minorities down rather than minorities don't like talking about mental health. If you don't have money to buy anti-depressants or go to therapist, you're going to ignore mental health issue and adopt an attitude of soldiering on. White adults are specifically overrepresented in reports of mental health which is very different from experiencing mental health and mental health risk factors like harassment/discrimination and financial instability which several non-White groups in America are more likely to experience. We need to deal with mental health in White adults(as well as everyone), yes, but it's completely different from religion based hate crimes which are disproportionately faced by Jewish and Muslim Americans. White adults *are* part of the wider mental health crisis while religion based hate crimes are uniquely faced by certain religions in the US. Same goes with systemic racism in the US. You can be racist to a White person, but entire systems in the US are not built around attacking them. Meanwhile, many systems in the US have structural issues with racism like over policing and excessive use of force in predominantly non-White areas, Black and Latino Americans disproportionate being given wrongful convictions and longer sentences than White Americans charged with the same crime, resumes with a perceived non-White name being far less likely to be called back than a very similar resume with a perceived White name, voter ID laws specifically drafted in a way that targets the voting practices of non-White voters like mail-in voting, early voting and Sunday voting as well as disproportionately shutting down voting centers in majority non-white counties.
Pretty much!They also fail to see actual racists because they ignore race so much they ignore when someone actually wants to make something about race.
Race isn’t biologically real, but it is sociologically, and the system we live in is still not color blind, so it matters very little whether you are color blind or not, since that’s not where systematic racism is coming from.And it actually worsens your ability to address systematic violence.
Exactly. Lazy bc they're trying to stop problems by literally ignoring there are problems at all. AKA the laziest way a person could ever try to deal with a problem 😂
Colorblindness is just a term to say "stop being a butthole to those different from your skin color". What makes me different from a black, white, or hispanic woman? It made it easier for me to find problems within the system in general, because I ignored, but only *group* of people suffer from racism. It is why I say, "We are all the same, we are the human race. The only TRUE race. There is no, white, black, or yellow race. Those who identify as either wants to be a victim for the wrong reasons, and will never solve each others problems, because they think they are superior or in this case victims. Those who believe themselves to be humans as everyone else, will ultimately want to take out people who attack their fellow humans, no matter the color. Because no racism is unique to one group, because if you're racist to my fellow black, white, or yellow humans, you're being racist towards me and yourself.". The "but the Jews" argument is also ridiculous. Because Judaism is literally a self-proclaimed group and is a group, which you can choose to be in, making you, by choice, different with stupid consequences that should not exist from other religious or none religious groups angered onto you, because of your difference in belief system. While skin color is a human trait, like dogs from the same spices with different kinds of pelt, which makes you no different from anyone. There is no, white, black, or yellow race. Even the Romans were colorblind, they had, middle eastern, black, and white people as generals in their armies, and even as senators.
Haven't watched yet, but I used to defend "colorblindness" because for me it was about looking past someone's skin color and treating them as equal. But I realized that when some people say they "see no color", it means they choose to not acknowledge racism, to not see that color affects how people are treated. I find that it's often used as an excuse for questionably racist behavior. Therefore, I have steered away from calling myself colorblind.
I don't really get the left saying colorblindness is racist... Shouldn't it be a good goal to not see people by their race whilst still acknowledging that racism exists?
@@jamesstephenson3305 because colorblindness ignores the struggles of others and kind of assumes everything is fair. Also most people who use that term tend to be blind to their bias and assume what works for them works for everyone.
@@jamesstephenson3305 yeah its a nice goal to move towards but there are still alot of problems to fix before it works as intended. Plus like alot of people have a wonky idea of how racism or just discrimination in general works if a person isn't obviously hateful.
Matt and Trey used to work for Dennis Prager, and they were libertarian chuds when they first started doing South Park. If you watch all of SP, you'll see incredible growth on their part in political issues. If you watch the infamous n-word episode, that whole episode is about how white people would ban a word if it was as hurtful and discriminatory as the n-word, and they can get away with it because they have institutional power. It's also an episode about how while a white person can sympathize with black people in the face of discrimination, they can never truly understand what being systematically discriminated like that feels like, and it's encouraged in the episode that they understand this. SP still has some issues in terms of its politics, but I love how it's a venue for Matt and Trey to talk freely about their views and make fun of really touchy subject matters, and it's all the more fascinating seeing how their views and attitudes change over time.
@@uxnosidda The relatively recent update they made on their old climate change episode was so good. The scene where the one guy is denying Man-Bear-Pig as the creature is killing everyone is probably the most savage takedown of climate deniers I've seen.
I’m amazed this didn’t go into the whole “it was Democrats who fought for slavery and later as Dixiecrats wanted segregation”. I’m sure Prager has made that argument in other videos though.
Dear Dennis Prager: "I don't see colour" often ACTUALLY means "I ignore systemic issues that effect some ethnic minorities more than others". And THAT is either racist, or enables racism.
I see no height. I see no difference between Shaq o Neal and Kevin hart. Edit - this really has Karen energy, as boomers usually view black people the same like they do with Asians.
Being colorblind doesn't mean you refuse to acknowledge the difference, it just means that Shaq and Kevin Hart aren't inherently more or less valuable than one another based on their height.
@@markzuckergecko621 did you watch the video? What you are describing isn't the colorblind ideology. Being colorblind isn't just "oh I see no race, everyone is equal, judge everyone by their character" (which, btw is impossible and ignorant... Everyone can see what each other's color is by looking, to say you don't is just stupid. Now whether you use that information to actually judge another person is what's important) - colorblindness "the ideology" is rooted in actively ignoring the many specific and unique issues that certain groups may face (or at least in different magnitudes) that others may not, and the centuries of history that have led us to this point.
@@dragongamer4753 Yeah. Because Ronald Reagan famously went to Berlin and said "tear down this wall", which was the topic of the Prager Kids cartoon. Duh.
There's something very therapeutically funny about seeing soyjak after soyjak go by in chat while Dennis Prager tries to propogandize you about racism. Really enjoyed that.
Before I watch the video, which I'll probably agree with, I'll give my original thoughts( I watched the video, I agree. So yeah) I think colorblindness can be okay IF it's not used as a lazy way to avoid systemic problems. For example, if someone says "Hey, I don't see color, but I understand that people of color have been discriminated against in the past and that it affects POC's today." It's good to judge people based on character, that's great, but it's also good to acknowledge things such as the Drug War, Police Brutality, etc, and their effects. As a black person(Identity pol, lol), I think colorblindness can and has been used to ignore race issues. Which sucks. But as long as they don't, it could be fine.
Or you could say you are anti racist. Theres is a reason praegarghoul doesn't say that, or they say "anti racism = anti white" which is ironically Freudian since that would make the inverse "pro racism = Pro White". Hm.
@@JebeckyGranjola and anti white literally means opposite of white which means black and pro white is toothpaste. I don't know how to live with my self knowing these facts. Are all racists made of toothpaste or does it only seem so?
At 70 years old I still say that I learn something new everyday. I always thought that being "Colorblind" to race was about not being racist. I didn't understand this video at 1st. It took me a minute.
I'm a white man, my sister is black. When I look in the mirror I see "Mr. Trash" and when she looks in the mirror she too sees "Alexis". "Mr. Trash" is a synthesis of aspects including white, male, bisexual, lower middle class, university educated, and so forth. The identity "Alexis" is a synthesis of aspects including black, female, asexual polyromantic, lower middle class, university student, and so forth. Her experience of the world has been vastly different than my own for a variety of reasons, not the least of which has been the intersectional influence of being a young black woman. She is, among other things, very interested in makeup, fashion, and accessorizing her outfits. When she buys makeup she struggles to find palettes and tones that accent her and give her the look she wants. When she looks in the mirror she absolutely must see color, not only because she has no choice in the matter, but also because she could not successfully pursue her interests or live her life without any awareness of her color.
Reactionaries very rarely attack the actual principles of certain topics, and just focus on the superficial aspects; it's very effective. Most people will agree with the fundamental aspects of toxic masculinity, feminism, etc but you use the actual term and they lose their shit.
Agreed, especially because these topics tend to be more academic and the lay-people don't really know about it aside from what is popularized or what they think the words mean based off a literal interpretation.
When people say "I don't see colour", they DON'T mean "I ignore examples of bigotry". They just mean "I believe in equality and am not hateful towards people based on their race".
But not being hateful Isn’t really enough Ya have to acknowledge that their expirence is largely informed by their color I’ve mostly seen “I don’t see color” as a reaction when when people are discussing systematic oppression The color of someone’s skin is very relevant
@@sharlene3819 Except the people saying they don't see colour and meaning they aren't hateful towards other races DON'T mean "And I don't care about racism". They are just saying that they are not racist.
For some people that is what they are saying and for lots of other people it a shield for their bigotry. One minute they'll say "I don't see race" then the next minute, "If black people pulled themselves up by their bootstraps they wouldn't be so poor" they're willfully ignoring the history of discrimination and the problems poc face. So using the phrase "I don't see race" has some nuance that is essentially racist, just don't use it. There are better ways to try to say what you're saying
Why do you people always afford the least charitable interpretation to everyone? Person makes edgy jokes? They must be racist! Person calls out woke CIA for being full of shit? They're on their way to becoming a Nazbol! Person says "I don't see colour"? They must mean they don't oppose racism! I swear, one day you people will consider "All races should be equal" to be a Nazi dog-whistle, because some people who say it don't believe it.
@@t.i.5528 Yeah many people don't mean anything bad when they say, "I don't see color." It just seems like many of the people who use the phrase also hold other views and use it to justify ignoring problems facing certain groups. I don't think anybody is saying that "I don't see color." Is an inherently racist statement either. They are simply trying to convey to those who use it, that it is an impossible and counterproductive view to take, from their prospective. To be honest it doesn't really matter if somebody uses the phrase, in my opinion, as a simple phrase isn't a worldview. What matters are the other ideas that go along with the phrase, nonetheless when people say it and don't add some nuance it's hard to understand where they are coming from. I think that it's better to just flat out explain your opinions on some things, rather than rely on a phrase like "I don't see color." Because of how ambiguous it's meaning has become. Again though, I can understand that many use it with good intentions. We don't call ourselves height blind, gender blind, or what have you, in order to convey that we think all groups should be treated equal. Claiming to be blind to something that you can clearly see just doesn't sit well with me personally. It's like when people say "It's always in the last place you look!" My mind always jumps to "That's because you don't keep looking for it after you found it." But sometimes they mean that it was literally in the last place they could have possibly looked. But their use of that phrase doesn't really convey exactly that meaning, as many who use the phrase find what they are looking for before they literally look in the last place possible. While this doesn't really matter in this instance, I just want to highlight that when a phrase has more than one meaning it can produce different thoughts in different people hearing it.
My gods, that little "imagine if the whole world was blind" thought experiment was the most lazy thing I've heard a long time, but I'm sure it fooled a whole tonne of PragerU fans. The success of people like Prago here kind of proves that the United States is not a meritocracy. Lol
Conservatives should really take a sociology class once in awhile because it basically goes over concepts such as colorblindness and how harmful it is as it ignores the issues of POCs and continue with the current status quo in an effort to paint everyone as "equal". And much more. Quite informative really though I feel they'd just called it "woke" or something.
@Garden Knomi “under the law” Slavery was also under the law, have you never taken a sociology class in your life?You know laws don’t just change the structure of society like that, right?They outlawed alcohol once and it didn’t work, society doesn’t just change like that.The law is but paper, in practice it is much different.Let’s see with the “law” has any power
@Garden Knomi tribalism is not racism. Tribalism is usually identitarian and ideological. Claiming that racism is human nature misunderstands how artificially gerrymandered the boundaries of "race" are.
@Garden Knomi You might think that, but you're wrong. That's... about it. Again, "everyone has equal rights under the law" just ignores laws like certain voter ID laws, where the lawmakers simply decided to ban the use of IDs far more commonly used as black people's sole form of ID than any white person. That's clearly racist, but the law never mentions race. Try to watch the video maybe?
As a person of colour, yeah, I see my race every time I look in the mirror. I mixed to all hell and Ive lost my heritage due to slavery and totalitarian regimes, so I just see myself as "mixed" but to this day I have insecurity about having big lips, slanted eyes, and body hair. I held myself to Asian beauty standards because I wasnt "chinese enough" and hated my "black" features. Top all of that with hispanic people being "exotic" and an asian-black Cuban like me can ONLY see my race when I look in the mirror because Ive always felt aesthetically inferior to people my whole life. Its taken me YEARS to get to the point of tolerating myself, and im nowhere near the point of loving myself yet. I dont consider myself any specific race anymore because im not enough to fit into any category, but i am definitely not white and I definitely spend way too much time aware of it on a subconscious daily basis. God fuck Prager, I hope his support leaves him slowly one by one under his nose until hes left with nothing and then stagnates on the cusp of misery. Nothing too major and dangerous, just enough to be placed in the situation he's fought so hard against. Sadly I doubt he'll get there, but manifesting babes Edit: typos
Prager U: We don’t see color at Prager U. That would be racist. Also Prager u: “Let’s have a cartoon of a black lady named Tamika and a brown dude name Jose”
“Does anyone really look in the mirror and see color? No we don’t.” Is such an insanely ignorant and privileged thing to say its kind of astounding. Yeah of course YOU don’t look in the mirror and see color Dennis because white is the default and there’s no reason for you to see it. This is fundamentally different for minority groups who have had their color forcibly applied to their existence for centuries. They look in the mirror and see color because color is one of the defining characteristics of how they are treated and perceived.
@@martins458 was talking about genetic colorblindness. You know red green, blue yellow, stuff like that. Was meant as rip how the term used to describe a disability is now wrapped up in a racist populations attempts to not appear racist
It's kinda like if after the Civil War instead of the 13th amendment they were just like "Okay, let's just not get any more slaves and we won't distinguish who should or should not be a slave based on their race..." and then all the black people who were already enslaved just remained slaves...
When I look at the mirror I don't see the fat rolls on my body. I just see me. If you see the fat on my body, well that makes you fat phobic because I don't see fat. Such solid logic from Dennis Prager.
I don't think the concept of colorblindness itself is necessarily racist -- I think it's the context that determines whether it is, or isn't. There are people who use it in good faith, and people who use it disingenuously. For those who mean well, I believe it comes down to the difference between systemic racism, and racism as it plays out during interpersonal interactions; the people with more genuine intentions regarding the term most likely mean that they don't make stereotypical assumptions about individuals based on their race, and that's it. I think it's a discussion worth having. Outside of obvious structural, and systemic racism there are certain over-zealous sections of the left that, in their best efforts to alleviate racism, end up placing people in boxes, or groups based on their ethnicity, or race -- albeit with good intentions. This could be regarding behavior, learning styles, pre-determined financial situations, cultural practices, or even the mere attempt at being more inclusive. It's probably better to know when it's beneficial, and appropriate to acknowledge differences, and when it isn't.
The mean-spirited colorblindness that you describe, is what Vaush mentions as the ideology and it's what the demon Prager advocates. Now regarding the left placing people in boxes based on their race/ethnicity, aren't we all already part of an ethnic group and class? Minorities do exist and their people should be proud of their cultures. Can you think of an instance where the left separates groups negatively?
@@sebastianbardon391 I do get what you're saying, and the folks at PragerU most definitely are of the disingenuous crowd. The thing about being proud of your heritage/race/ethnicity, though, is that that comes down to personal choice. There are those who are proud of their race, and ethnicity, and those who really don't see it as anything particularly significant about themselves, or what defines them, and neither one is wrong, or right. This is actually a source of a lot of conflict on the left (and even between well-meaning right-leaning individuals). The idea that you should be proud of your race isn't something that should really be enforced. It's only up to the individual to make that determination. After all we don't expect this of white people This is also true in regard to loyalty to someone's race, or minority group. While minority groups exist they are not a monolith. It's important to maintain the distinction between minority groups, and tribalism; it's in this arena where well-meaning, but ultimately negative instances of separation, and interacting can occur. A specific example might be creating a headline for a minority who's just become the first, or second person of that demographic to achieve something in a specific field that reads "First (or second) African American so and so accomplishes so and so," thus making them a poster-person for their race without first consulting them, and/or getting their thoughts on the matter. Representation matters, but how a minority is represented in either instance has both negative, and positive effects -- for instance in this case the person might feel that their accomplishment for their race is overshadowing their actual achievement, making it about their race instead of them (which really isn't fair to the person if you think about it). Highlighting their race may not only be unnecessary, but could be seen as an act of segregation. An even more egregious example of this is creating specific categories for minorities when it comes to entertainment, music, art, etc as opposed to simply including them with the rest -- or throwing a cultural party for a minority when you don't even know if they embrace their culture, or not. Better to just treat them as individuals while recognizing that systemic racism is real when it's important to do so.
@@Joyness333 I feel that we have slight differences in our takes but ultimately we agree. Perhaps being proud is not the right wording nowadays, the proud boys are not great exponents of my point here. I guess that get to know your culture, roots, ethnic heritage is more appropriate. Here in LatAm, due to centuries of colonialism our cultures get diluted, slowly turning into monoliths. I've several women that were embarrased of their hairs. In some countries afro is called bad hair, girls and women daily fight against their own hair due to the caucasian propaganda in western culture. The examples you mentioned are not necessarily leftists. It doesn't represent the ideology but rather out of touch people. Anyhow, I get your point. Thanks for the reply!
@@sebastianbardon391 My pleasure! And the hair examples are definitely valid points. It's still important to recognize other races, and ethnicities -- and as equal, and viable. Diversity should not be frowned upon.
I used to think “1 don’t see colour”, but didn’t realise what that term meant beyond the surface virtue of not judging based on race. I got educated and I’m better for it. I didn’t understand privilege, I do now and I’m better for it. I’ve never been racist, but I’ve spoken like one and didn’t understand why, I got schooled and I’m better for it. As a white man that’s spent my entire life around immigrants I can honestly say I’m a better human because of it. I’ve got to participate in traditional Indian weddings, fall in love with Hiphop, anime, Bollywood and traditional foods, just to name some off the top of my head! I love the fact my country is a hodgepodge of cultural diversity. Racism is dumb, education is our only non violent solution. Even being a non racist myself… I needed the education.
Wassup Homes! I don't want to come over like a square, dude, but this is heavy. Dennis Prager is a cool cat who's down with the kids. His video postings are dope. Don't diss the Dennis!
This video is merely an example of how conservatives have a hard time with nuanced or critical thought. Everything is black and white with no room or colour (because colour is confusing and scary).
I feel like people don’t like calling this racist because when people hear that something is racist, they think it means anyone who does it is racist, and being racist is a (rightly) horrific quality. Maybe I’m oblivious but I think most people who call themselves colorblind just mean they don’t interpersonally evaluate people by race, not that they don’t know that racism affects people by race. Or maybe most people who take that label are that ignorant idk
The problem is, though, that everyone makes evaluations based on anything their brain takes in. Everyone literally does see race, and cannot stop their brains from making assumptions based on that. It is called implicit bias, and declaring oneself colorblind does not rid a person of any implicit bias, it actually prevents them from acknowledging and ridding themselves of such bias. colorblindness is a disingenuous ideology, although, at one point, it was a genuine attempt at not being racist, it failed at that and has now been coopted by racists, as demonstrated by the PragerU video.
@@MrDominickNathaniel Is there reason to believe that personal acknowledgement of implicit bias, or denial of it, causes it to be diminished? I've seen arguments in both directions but at base this seems like a statistical question of the relationship between people's self-evaluation of their own racial biases and people's actual racist behaviors and beliefs. Is there data suggesting a relationship in either direction on this? Regarding the idea that it "has failed", I think probably for some people it's a con, like PragerU. Probably not for others. I don't think there was some moment in time or some time period when it switched. It's always been an aspirational desire for interpersonal equality for some people and a facade for ignoring structural oppression for others.
Quick addendum to this, did some brief checks on google scholar and it seems like the literature DOES suggest that statistically, awareness of one's own implicit biases does lead to their reduction on average. Point taken. I don't mean to argue here that implicit bias is unreal (although this data I'm seeing now is informative on ways to deal with it), but I do think that there is a hill to overcome in distinguishing to people that discussions of implicit bias, or the problems with colorblindness, aren't morally impugning people for *attempting* to be colorblind or bar implicit bias from their decisions, as futile a task as it may be. I think most people are well intentioned and it's a matter of education
@@dylanb265 I appreciate your reasoned response, and I agree with your assessment. This is definitely a matter of education regarding implicit bias and its lack of moral impunity, and most average individuals are likely well-intentioned in their claims of colorblindness. I would argue, though, that most organizations and public personalities, like Dennis Prager and PragerU, claiming colorblindness are being disingenuous. I also want to point out that while statistical data will reinforce the notion that awareness of biases leads to bias reduction, this conclusion can also be reached through heuristics, "common sense," or adage: "The first step to solving a problem is acknowledging that it exists." I would argue that failure to acknowledge or be aware of implicit bias is akin to failure to admit any other problem (i.e. addiction, relationship issues, getting behind on work/school, etc.) exists, such that it may, then, not be addressed. Regarding the "failure" or colorblindness, I agree that the notion of any individual being "colorblind" is a con for some and genuine for others. I was referring to its failure in academic/public circles as a viable/accepted theory for dealing with prejudice, and how at one point, colorblindness was at the forefront of racial study, but now, it is regarded as "racist."
If I am hiring someone for my company and it’s a choice between a competent black guy and a incompetent white guy then I’m going to hire the black guy. This is what people mean when they say colorblindness. It’s not denying that the black guy may have had additional challenges in getting to where he has, it just means I’m not going to bring his skin color into consideration when making any decisions.
How can colorblindness be anti-racist? It's pretty much required that you acknowledge how black people, for example, are disadvantaged by some social systems that white people aren't, you explicitly HAVE to be able to see and differentiate color to be anti racist
@@yan_dj It's not whether or not that colorblindness is racist but it have to do with if someone practicing it right or they are doing it wrong and the outcome is racism. Colorblindness supposed to be anti racist but some times when people using too of it to the point that they ignore the problem of systemic racism and so on. The question here is colorblindness racist or not? Well it depends on number of things.
@@yan_dj I think people use the term in a much narrower sense than that. I think people usually just mean "the absence of interpersonal discrimination on the basis of skin color" as opposed to "completely ignoring skin color such that you become incapable of acknowledging systemic racial inequalities."
When Dennis Prager brings up Christians who opposed slavery ask him what he thinks of John Brown to really get an idea of what his actual position on the issue is.
Here is a more accurate explanation of colorblindness. The Colorblind Narrative: Race doesn't matter. MLK Jr: Race does matter as a sociological concept, but it shouldn't.
The problem with "lets just act colorblind everybody and there will be no racism" is exactly the same as "everybody drop their guns and there will be no wars".
I'm still at the beginning part of the video, and as someone from a state with one of the highest rates of HIV cases from heterosexual sexual transmission in the country (Florida), I beg to differ on Prager's propaganda calling heterosexual transmission of HIV a myth. And of course I also understand that there are so many areas where a colorblind approach simply cannot work. There are times it can work - contests comparing how well people do something, like cooking or something artistic or something scientific or mathematical. But anything sociological requires nuance and an examination of intersectional issues, because we do not exist in a vacuum.
After the Brown v Board of Ed decision the primary tactic of states opposing it was to argue that they *couldn't possibly* desegregate schools because to do so would mean that they had to notice a student's race, and therefore wouldn't it be DEsegregation that was racist? The Supreme Court called that bullshit out as bullshit at the time, saying: "Just as the race of students must be considered in determining whether a constitutional violation has occurred, so also must race be considered in formulating a remedy." So, like we've been aware of the racism of this "how can I be racist if I don't see color" crap for about 70 years already.
Being fair, Prager doesn’t see anything in the mirror since he’s a vampire
This deserved more likes
But... aren't vampires supposed to be charismatic?
@@leif_p no... Vampires famously use unlabeled charts and graphs
Rich, Eastern European, hates Christ/Crucifix, drinks blood.....oi vey
@@leif_p it depends on your vamoire clan, if you're a toreador for example you are naturally carismatic.
Denis Prager is a fucking nosferatu.
As a color blind person my self (tritanomaly) thank you for educating me and I will continue to better my self
Thank you for being better, just try not to be colorblind next time
I have deuteranomaly myself. Maybe one day I can hustle hard enough and get on your level
Tbh the other colors kinda mid you ain’t missin much
If you can’t tell the difference between the red and green teletubby you a racist
You monster
Dennis prager: “I don’t see colour race means nothing to me”
Also Dennis prager: *exclusively gets black people who agree with me to do segments on black issues to not appear racist*
You gotta Google capital as power man
Prager: I don’t see color race means nothing to me, because we are no racist .😏
The left : No you must see color , Critical Race(ist) theory , etc 🤬🤬😷
@@yatarookayama8329 Thats the literal opposite of how racism forms. Native Canadian children filled shallow graves because the British occupiers didnt give a shit about them, their culture, their religion, and their race. Thats why they were killed. Fuck off with this "caring less is good" no its not. Want people to care less about the sanctity of white people? Thought not.
Dennis Prager : "The moral confusion of the left"
Also Dennis Prager : *Shows a document from the University of Columbia, and speaks about Disney and the U.S. Army*
Thank you, Dennis Prager, for remembering us that fascists are anti-intellectuals and morons.
@@yatarookayama8329 that’s not what that mean, by being “colorblind” you don’t see race as a social construct and that it doesn’t affect the individual when it clearly does. Basically when you don’t see race, you don’t see racism either even when the results are quite clear
A lot of conservatives get upset BECAUSE we judge them by the content of their character
Pretty much.
It's why they want to celebrate things they had no control over, exclusively in themselves. Deflecting from the lack of positive character traits.
Unfortunately yes
No they get upset because leftists have no character to speak of and, judge conservatives by an ever shifting scale set exclusively by the left and, that they often violate their own maxims just a month or, so after they set them. As they have moved on to the next maxim they arbitrarily set.
@@jebediahrage8273 yeah that's not accurate. The left and, the right celebrate things they have no control over as exclusively in themselves. The right on the other hand values personal accountability in all things. Where as the left shifts the blame exclusively on to others. It's societies fault why I'm fat. It's societies fault why I'm poor, it's societies fault that trans people kill themselves at higher rates than any other group of people. I can go on but, I think you see the point. I'd rather go with the side that takes the credit but, will also accept the responsibility of their actions.
Every time someone brings up the "colorblindness" concept in regards to race it always reminds me of the episode of The Office where Michael is like "STANLEY! I don't see you as BLACK!" and then the diversity training guy is like "No, Michael, we don't want to do that because it's like fighting ignorance with ignorance".
If you're trying to suggest something Michael Scott gets called out for in The Office is a good thing to do, odds are you're in some strange territory and shouldn't be giving advice.
man as a kid I was yelled at for using a dark orange and thinking is orange and purple thinking is blue and light and dark green and thinking that colors was green
Colourblindness is based, actually. Hot take: we should treat everyone equally regardless of ethnicity
@@oscarbainbridge8656 That's not what colorblindness enables because when you don't 'see race" you inadvertently ignore the clear signs of racism. If you don't see race, then you kinda enable said behavior by trying to blame a racist problem on something else. Being colorblind isn't based, stop saying based anytime someone says something you agree with, that's pretty basic
@@innitbruv-lascocomics9910 This is a misconstruing of the term. Very few people don't believe in issues directly related to race. You can choose to not see race in the people around you whilst also acknowledging when racism is happening
@@oscarbainbridge8656 okay so your not always being colour blind? So you owned yourself in your own explanation.
And you can still see colour while treating everyone equal..
as someone who attained a bachelor's in epic gaming from prager u, i approve of this video.
I didn't think you were a practitioner of Alden's Theory.
@@Odinsday -I love Alden’s theory. Best theory ever. Lots of positives, no negatives. Everyone should be taught Alden’s theory in schools everywhere.
@@cthulhutheendless1587 instead of crt, of course.
holy fuck it's William maranci
pls go on vowsh william
"I'm colorblind". Colorblind people can still see black and white. What's your response conservatives.
People are not colors
They can also see, for example, lepto/meso/platyrrhiny (nostril widths), which are often a much better way of determining a person's race than the amount of melanin they have. Or how curly or straight their hair is. Race is much more than just skin color.
@@SeasideDetective2 tru
@@SeasideDetective2 is that a color? Are you a color? Where is the color?
@@puppetperception7861 I'm talking about people saying they don't see color to say that they aren't racist. Obviously people aren't colors.
Prager at times feels like poorly written satire from how insane his takes on things gets
Poe's law in action
PragerU will say they're colourblind, say anyone who isn't is the "real racist", then claim 13/50 in their next video lmfao. Literal doublethink
And to think this would've been something I got behind in 2016.
Geez, the anti-sjw rabbithole sure was awful.
Hail, fellow de-convert.
2016 zoomer gang
@@Luigiofthegods glad to see we made it out, comrade
A good part of reddit is still like this. Not all, but enough to promote these types of awful sentiments. I'm glad I got out.
Just remember the last four words of the Pledge of Allegiance.
"The worst examples of racism in this country were defenders of slavery" LIKE DENNIS PRAGER FFS
Yeah, this is the channel that made a video in which they called John Brown a 'radical abolitionist' and praised Robert E. Lee's wisdom of understanding that black people were better off enslaved than staying back in Africa.
@@ttnn7480 I know right? I guess he is banking on the (unfortunately safe) assumption that his audience don't know or forgot about that
I'm pretty sure Prager has never defended slavery. Fake news
They literally did
@@RalphNC09 they released a video where they praised Robert E Lee for putting down abolitionists. The backlash from their own fans was enough that they deleted the video (you can still find it on RUclips because of how many people covered it) and then went on a whole "we can't be racist, here's this black guy to tell you so!" Shtick.
Prager is literally doing the “Covid can’t be racist” meme by not understanding how color blindness can still lead to racist outcomes
People are not colors
Viruses can't be racist. I don't understand why this even has to be said. Even if there was a virus that only effected a specific race, it wouldn't be because the virus is racist, it would be because it's.... Doing virus stuff. Because that's all viruses do. They do virus stuff.
@@markzuckergecko621 A vius affecting specific race is impossible, because race has no genetic bases to it. Technically.
Well anything is / can be racist , that why Prager tries for a post racist future society !
@@thevoidzzz technically, human genetics don't correlate with race. So race by definition only really has sociological and political definitions.
"Doctor, I've been shot by a cop..."
"Well, what's the big deal about it being a cop? We live in a colorblind world, judge the cop by their character, not their... character being a cop!"
ACAB
That's the most cringe leftist joke I've heard. It sounds like it just came off of reddit or tumblr.
@@curses6166 Lmao I think if I told this joke in a conservative circle theyd laugh
@@mousearson9053 The middle aged type of conservative probably would.
@@curses6166 Whatever you have to tell yourself
i dont watch as often anymore, because quite frankly politics is really exhausting (even as much as i love arguing), but i always watch your prageru videos, because without fail theyre always informative AND funny. good job coconut man
Wow! 30 likes! Good job
@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper wow! Two likes! Good Job!
@@moose7012 wow 1 like! Good job!
@@jacobh3700 ill have you know I have two likes now! Im working my way up the ladder!
@@moose7012 I'll have you know you have 3 likes now! Stop misrepresenting the good work youve done!
I love how his colorblind example of a black woman is named Tamika and a Latin man is named Jose. Someone had to animate that script and he couldn't even get this out of his studio without utilizing stereotypes.
Yeah, I appreciate Vaush taking the time to discuss the issue, but I feel like most of the time when someone says they "don't see race" (at least in serious political discussion) they are so obviously racist, that it's a waste of time to discuss the issues with colorblind policies with them. Just call them on their racist bullshit and move on.
@@connorsullivan1855 It's like when someone starts of a sentence with "not to be racist". It usually means they're gonna say something racist.
@@thebxx724 Exactly. There are real discussions to be had about the biases in how people view themselves and their actions, but the majority of people on the right are just repeating bad faith talking points and talking them seriously is just a waste of time.
@@connorsullivan1855 The leaders making these arguments are knowingly lying. Their goal is to convince the general public.
Regular people use colorblindness because they aren't educated on the subject. Vaush is trying to speak to them
I thought he is colorblind. 😆
"Does anyone look into a mirror and see color? No they don't!"
Me looking at the mirror: "How are you a black man with a farmer's tan?"
The sun is quite the bitch sometimes
You can’t be a color. People are not colors
@@apophis7712 surface of the sun 2021
@@puppetperception7861 class Person {}
Person person;
Person *colour = &person;
Done and done, don't ever come at here again.
@@SlothWindGod wut
I feel the best comparison to this would be along the ableism line. Seeing somebody is disabled in some way is to acknowledge their struggles but not to judge them by that disability. Imagine prager arguing he doesn’t see disability. Just goes around breaking ramps up into long stairways in the name of seeing everyone equally.
Are you arguing the differences between "races" (which are social constructs btw) are akin to differences in ability between able-bodied and disabled people?
@@timkratz742 they are both marginalized groups to the larger able-bodied or non-racialized population. To acknowledge someone’s position may provide context for their experiences in the world we share, helping us empathize and engage accordingly. It’s literally just abt empathizing with people who may not have had the same life experiences as you, and seeing their humanity beyond your biases. Imagine a world built for disabled folks where able-bodies hold a smaller population and how the world may be completely different for able-bodies. The ability to see the other perspective is what is lacking in the “colourblind” argument, as with this analogy.
@@timkratz742 Only so far as it can have a material impact on their quality of life.
i dont want to mess up the 69 likes
"Colourblindness" is like refusing to pay damages for a decades-long wildfire your grandpa started for his own profit, which you inherited, and being completely able to extinguish and atone for it if you would just take some accountability, because you say you're "fireblind."
If black people are disproportionately poor and you want to disproportionately help them then help the poor. The affirmative action bullshit leaves poor whites in the dust and just assumes their privilege will magically help them. It also pretends that successful poc are oppressed when they have far more privilege than most whites do.
@@dragongamer4753 Nonsense - both are necessary.
It's not about the oppression olympics or any of that nonsense, but if you truly want to help whole *communities* escape and sustainably avoid poverty, you're gonna need to take their other sociological qualifiers into account, such as ethnic and cultural background.
I have no idea why you've went off on this tangent about affirmative action and poor whites.
If you're so crazy about helping poverty in general, go advocate for that instead of pulling it out as an excuse to deny the same for POC.
Sounds to me like you're a lot more concerned with black people *not* having a fair shake than with poor people getting one.
@@PM-xu2nq I think you're reading their comment with too much cynicism. I think they're just saying if you want to help some groups disproportionately, help those issues that they need help with but don't put racial qualifiers on who can get the help. And I agree with that. Every race has poor people and even if the reason was your dad spent the family money at the casino and blew his inheritance before you were born, that person should get help. Ancestral wealth that evaporated before you could benefit doesn't help you
@@dragongamer4753 67% of people on welfare are white. Black People didnt take all your "handouts", sorry.
@DragonGamer 475
You're being reductive. The economic status of minority groups is massively effected by whether or not there is systemic oppression. And the existence of affluent people in minority groups is not an argument against systemic oppression.
Dealing with the nebulous poor is great, but does that change that minority groups like black and hispanic people are targeted by police at a higher rate? Does it change that black and hispanic people receive higher prison sentences than their white counterparts with the same criminal record and are more often exonerated for the crimes they were convicted of?
Does it change that banks are denying personal and business loans to minority groups at a higher rate? Does it change the fact that black people are denied housing at a higher rate than white people? Or that black people have started to use their white friends to sell their homes because when the evaluators know the house is owned by black people it is undervalued on the market?
Without actually addressing these things, nothing actually changes.
All of these questions (aside from the last, which is more anecdotal, but still easily found with a search engine) are based on statistical data and are demonstrably occurring.
I really want Dennis Prager saying "Look! A white person!" to become a meme so hard.
“imagine that tomorrow every human being woke up blind. would they be more or less racist” actually broke me i had to pause just to laugh for a good 5 minutes
I watched a episode of Becker about that . The black blind guy named Jack got dumped by a blind white woman after he told her that that he was black
I dunno. How racist was Day of the Triffids?
@@woobiefuntime Okay, but what if they woke up colorblind? Thinking in the idea that people are born colorblind and don't actually have the functionality within their brain to see race. They would certainly not be racist.
@@cutekirby360 it goes to the idea of race
@@cutekirby360 there were white Jews...
Race is not just color.
And racist will find a way to hate even if there is no color implied.
Imagine if Dennis Prager actually opened a PragerU college/university. Where would it be located and how long would it last?
No much, it would be pure disinformation
Texas, and it will be riddle with sexual misconduct claims from women students and teachers against both male teachers and male students, so probably shut down in a month.
it would probably be in a sundown town. or hell.
@@SpookyStag2015 religious education and crypto-fascist propaganda
Florida, probably
"Imagine a world were there was no murder or theft? This would drive me mad. I like murder, I like to kill people for fun."
-Dennis Prager
I think I remember which YTP that came from. x3
PragerU YTP-s are the best thing ever.
@@davitdavid7165 Right? x3
What happens when you push a baby underwater?
@@NoChance18 The baby fucking dies!
Man, the "I'm not really racist" because x rhetoric is so frustrating. Stop being a coward and own your very obvious bigotry.
“No, I like the good ones”
People are not colors. You cannot be a color
@@puppetperception7861 Way to demonstrate the exact point that Vaush is making in this video. You should watch said video before commenting on it.
@@margotpreston if you can’t be a color than color is not race and Vaush has no argument. Color is not identity. Color does not identify
See where Vaush said:
“…the only thing we can see is color”
So then what does color identify? Where is the color?
@@puppetperception7861 ok I think you might need to watch the video again lol
But Martin Luther King Jr., King of the Black People said one thing once!
Was he wrong through?
@@peoples2296 not being judged on the color of your skin ( not having to ride the back of the bus, separated toilets, being unfairly treated by the criminal justice system, being disadvantaged in being able to get a loan etc.) IS NOT THE SAME as neglecting potential problems that are statistically tied to race.
don't forget pragerU is the platform that championed the 13/50 statistic and they WERE NOT implying it was due being historically socially and economically 'neglected' but because, due to pragerU apparently, 'black people are just worse'...
@@peoples2296 no but when you look at only ONE quote from a public figure you can make any person look reasonable or wrong. Thinking you know all of MLK Jr’s beliefs from one out of context quote is hilariously stupid or wilfully ignorant
I thought Biden was the new King of Black people?
@@obamaslefteyeball1710 can you explain how its out of context? When I see people claiming that colorblindness is racist it just comes across as completely unnuanced and thoughtless to me.
Dennis Prager, after going house-to-house, blinding everyone in their sleep: "We did it, Charlie Kirk!! We *stopped* racism!"
[Society in flames and chaos all around them]
At least no one would watch prageru
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." (Anatole France) Colorblindness is just the same principle applied to skin color.
You are are not a color. People are not colors
@@puppetperception7861 watch the video
You are the exact person that we are criticizing
@@miigi-p4939 I’m here now what do you have to say? Are you a color? Where is the color?
@@puppetperception7861 crappy trolling lol be better
@@Cruxin are you a color?
Dennis Prager has to know since he's old enough, I was a kid and I remember. I remember people asking can you get it from toilet seats can you get it from pay phones(😏 remember pay phones) people were wondering could you get it from mosquito bites and I remember judges saying that they didn't want people with AIDS in their courtrooms because people had to sit on the benches after they got done using them. And we all know Dennis Prager has to remember all of this. Because this was around about 1982.
Yes because everyone around 1982 also remembers the murder of Vincent and Asian hate...not Everyone knows the struggles of minorities.
@@TheDCbiz somebody just uploaded a video about that case on RUclips.
@@grapeshot wdym?
@@TheDCbiz somebody uploaded a video about that Vincent murder case. Not too long ago. It's on the RUclips channel Yesterday is History.
@@grapeshot And Dennis Prager knows of it just because it happened in 1982
To Vaush's point about depression, alienation, and suicidality disproportionately affecting white people, I'd point out that there's plenty of evidence that mental health issues in general are still heavily stigmatized in many minority communities, so even if those things are present in comparable numbers, they are bound to go underreported. Still, I acknowledge that suburban living does often lead to higher rates of those things.
Yep, mental illness is pretty much non-existent in the Asian community (that I am part of) because Asian immigrants and Asian cultures as a whole does not acknowledge mental illness. Mental illnesses are instead attributed as character flaws and people are deemed to be deserving of whatever afflict them, or even death. Whatever stats there are, it's most likely massively underreported and estimated because no one in said cultural community would even admit or think they have mental health issues because they'll be shunned as an outcast by their families and communities. It is starting to change but fact is minority immigrant communities tend also to be conservative.
I'd say it's more so less income to address mental health issues and distrust of the US medical system after the baby times it has let minorities down rather than minorities don't like talking about mental health.
If you don't have money to buy anti-depressants or go to therapist, you're going to ignore mental health issue and adopt an attitude of soldiering on. White adults are specifically overrepresented in reports of mental health which is very different from experiencing mental health and mental health risk factors like harassment/discrimination and financial instability which several non-White groups in America are more likely to experience.
We need to deal with mental health in White adults(as well as everyone), yes, but it's completely different from religion based hate crimes which are disproportionately faced by Jewish and Muslim Americans.
White adults *are* part of the wider mental health crisis while religion based hate crimes are uniquely faced by certain religions in the US.
Same goes with systemic racism in the US. You can be racist to a White person, but entire systems in the US are not built around attacking them. Meanwhile, many systems in the US have structural issues with racism like over policing and excessive use of force in predominantly non-White areas, Black and Latino Americans disproportionate being given wrongful convictions and longer sentences than White Americans charged with the same crime, resumes with a perceived non-White name being far less likely to be called back than a very similar resume with a perceived White name, voter ID laws specifically drafted in a way that targets the voting practices of non-White voters like mail-in voting, early voting and Sunday voting as well as disproportionately shutting down voting centers in majority non-white counties.
The “I don’t see race” rhetoric is a way of not addressing the issues at hand and quite frankly denying a person’s racial identity
Exactly this.
Pretty much!They also fail to see actual racists because they ignore race so much they ignore when someone actually wants to make something about race.
Race isn’t biologically real, but it is sociologically, and the system we live in is still not color blind, so it matters very little whether you are color blind or not, since that’s not where systematic racism is coming from.And it actually worsens your ability to address systematic violence.
You shouldn't focus mainly on a person's "racial identity".
I thought we agreed that "race" was a bullshit term cooked up by late 19th century imperialist powers?
Color blindness is just a lazy way of trying to stop problems
True!It is also ineffective, specially when white supremacists use dog whistles that come of as color blind, such as “wh!te l!ves m@tter”
Exactly. Lazy bc they're trying to stop problems by literally ignoring there are problems at all. AKA the laziest way a person could ever try to deal with a problem 😂
I agree, "colorblind" is usually a dogwhistle
Colorblindness is just a term to say "stop being a butthole to those different from your skin color". What makes me different from a black, white, or hispanic woman? It made it easier for me to find problems within the system in general, because I ignored, but only *group* of people suffer from racism. It is why I say, "We are all the same, we are the human race. The only TRUE race. There is no, white, black, or yellow race. Those who identify as either wants to be a victim for the wrong reasons, and will never solve each others problems, because they think they are superior or in this case victims. Those who believe themselves to be humans as everyone else, will ultimately want to take out people who attack their fellow humans, no matter the color. Because no racism is unique to one group, because if you're racist to my fellow black, white, or yellow humans, you're being racist towards me and yourself.".
The "but the Jews" argument is also ridiculous. Because Judaism is literally a self-proclaimed group and is a group, which you can choose to be in, making you, by choice, different with stupid consequences that should not exist from other religious or none religious groups angered onto you, because of your difference in belief system. While skin color is a human trait, like dogs from the same spices with different kinds of pelt, which makes you no different from anyone. There is no, white, black, or yellow race.
Even the Romans were colorblind, they had, middle eastern, black, and white people as generals in their armies, and even as senators.
It’s just a way to IGNORE problems like racism.
Haven't watched yet, but I used to defend "colorblindness" because for me it was about looking past someone's skin color and treating them as equal. But I realized that when some people say they "see no color", it means they choose to not acknowledge racism, to not see that color affects how people are treated. I find that it's often used as an excuse for questionably racist behavior. Therefore, I have steered away from calling myself colorblind.
You can acknowledge how racist other people are, without caring about race, yourself
It really is stunning when Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager repeat similar talking points Nazis made, but without the Jewish part.
Every conservative argument against the left always boils down to "No you" or "I know you are but what am I?"
Truely a sophisticated people
“I’m not racist! I don’t see color! I just see people for who they are”, says my dad, a huge Candace Owens fan
“I don’t see colour. Anyways, white people were the first to end slavery...”
I don't really get the left saying colorblindness is racist... Shouldn't it be a good goal to not see people by their race whilst still acknowledging that racism exists?
@@jamesstephenson3305 because colorblindness ignores the struggles of others and kind of assumes everything is fair. Also most people who use that term tend to be blind to their bias and assume what works for them works for everyone.
@@coldfrost3 that makes sense... But surely that doesn't change the goal itself.... It feels like some lefties are really weird about race
@@jamesstephenson3305 yeah its a nice goal to move towards but there are still alot of problems to fix before it works as intended. Plus like alot of people have a wonky idea of how racism or just discrimination in general works if a person isn't obviously hateful.
Funny how when Prago "explains" why opposing colorblind ideology is Orwellian, he engages in some pretty serious Orwellian disingenuity.
Matt and Trey used to work for Dennis Prager, and they were libertarian chuds when they first started doing South Park. If you watch all of SP, you'll see incredible growth on their part in political issues. If you watch the infamous n-word episode, that whole episode is about how white people would ban a word if it was as hurtful and discriminatory as the n-word, and they can get away with it because they have institutional power. It's also an episode about how while a white person can sympathize with black people in the face of discrimination, they can never truly understand what being systematically discriminated like that feels like, and it's encouraged in the episode that they understand this.
SP still has some issues in terms of its politics, but I love how it's a venue for Matt and Trey to talk freely about their views and make fun of really touchy subject matters, and it's all the more fascinating seeing how their views and attitudes change over time.
They also made a positive evolution on their stance on climate change! See: their Al Gore episodes
@@uxnosidda The relatively recent update they made on their old climate change episode was so good. The scene where the one guy is denying Man-Bear-Pig as the creature is killing everyone is probably the most savage takedown of climate deniers I've seen.
Don’t forget the George Zimmerman episode.
I’m amazed this didn’t go into the whole “it was Democrats who fought for slavery and later as Dixiecrats wanted segregation”. I’m sure Prager has made that argument in other videos though.
genuinely same based on just the little preview when hovering over the thumbnail
Dear Dennis Prager: "I don't see colour" often ACTUALLY means "I ignore systemic issues that effect some ethnic minorities more than others". And THAT is either racist, or enables racism.
I like how prageru stylizes articles so no one can accidentally see any information that prageru doesn't agree with
prageru: what if tommorow everyone woke up to be blind?
jose saramago: am i a joke to you?
“There is no form of protest against racism that is acceptable to racists” ~Bernice King
"Why Orwellian?" Proceeds to not explain how it's Orwellian.
I see no height. I see no difference between Shaq o Neal and Kevin hart.
Edit - this really has Karen energy, as boomers usually view black people the same like they do with Asians.
Being colorblind doesn't mean you refuse to acknowledge the difference, it just means that Shaq and Kevin Hart aren't inherently more or less valuable than one another based on their height.
@@markzuckergecko621 I was being ironic 🤦♂️
@@MilkAndHoney no, you were being sarcastic, and trying to take a dig at what you thing regular people think. And you failed miserably.
@@markzuckergecko621 oh
@@markzuckergecko621 did you watch the video? What you are describing isn't the colorblind ideology. Being colorblind isn't just "oh I see no race, everyone is equal, judge everyone by their character" (which, btw is impossible and ignorant... Everyone can see what each other's color is by looking, to say you don't is just stupid. Now whether you use that information to actually judge another person is what's important) - colorblindness "the ideology" is rooted in actively ignoring the many specific and unique issues that certain groups may face (or at least in different magnitudes) that others may not, and the centuries of history that have led us to this point.
"I am your god."
-Ronnis Preagan, 8491. Neue-Berlin
"Here in my kingdom, I am your Lord, I order you to cower and prey."
Ironic you call a jew a nazi.
@@dragongamer4753 XD Are you okay, dude?
@@casperchristiansen2458 you literally called it neue berlin. I know what you're doing.
@@dragongamer4753 Yeah. Because Ronald Reagan famously went to Berlin and said "tear down this wall", which was the topic of the Prager Kids cartoon.
Duh.
There's something very therapeutically funny about seeing soyjak after soyjak go by in chat while Dennis Prager tries to propogandize you about racism. Really enjoyed that.
Before I watch the video, which I'll probably agree with, I'll give my original thoughts( I watched the video, I agree. So yeah)
I think colorblindness can be okay IF it's not used as a lazy way to avoid systemic problems. For example, if someone says "Hey, I don't see color, but I understand that people of color have been discriminated against in the past and that it affects POC's today." It's good to judge people based on character, that's great, but it's also good to acknowledge things such as the Drug War, Police Brutality, etc, and their effects.
As a black person(Identity pol, lol), I think colorblindness can and has been used to ignore race issues. Which sucks. But as long as they don't, it could be fine.
Or you could say you are anti racist. Theres is a reason praegarghoul doesn't say that, or they say "anti racism = anti white" which is ironically Freudian since that would make the inverse "pro racism = Pro White". Hm.
@@JebeckyGranjola and anti white literally means opposite of white which means black and pro white is toothpaste. I don't know how to live with my self knowing these facts. Are all racists made of toothpaste or does it only seem so?
@Otto JK Damn. Everyone knows fluoride makes you into a Communist. I don't know who to trust, but def continuing to not floss.
At 70 years old I still say that I learn something new everyday. I always thought that being "Colorblind" to race was about not being racist. I didn't understand this video at 1st. It took me a minute.
"When you look in the mirror, do you see colour?"
Nobody tell Prager about makeup
Don't let him know melanin exists in him too. He might try to tear it out.
Growing up in the 90's you heard well meaning liberals say they were color blind. It sounded so much more enlightened than it is.
This is like a kindergartners understanding of race
I'm a white man, my sister is black. When I look in the mirror I see "Mr. Trash" and when she looks in the mirror she too sees "Alexis". "Mr. Trash" is a synthesis of aspects including white, male, bisexual, lower middle class, university educated, and so forth. The identity "Alexis" is a synthesis of aspects including black, female, asexual polyromantic, lower middle class, university student, and so forth.
Her experience of the world has been vastly different than my own for a variety of reasons, not the least of which has been the intersectional influence of being a young black woman. She is, among other things, very interested in makeup, fashion, and accessorizing her outfits. When she buys makeup she struggles to find palettes and tones that accent her and give her the look she wants. When she looks in the mirror she absolutely must see color, not only because she has no choice in the matter, but also because she could not successfully pursue her interests or live her life without any awareness of her color.
Reactionaries very rarely attack the actual principles of certain topics, and just focus on the superficial aspects; it's very effective. Most people will agree with the fundamental aspects of toxic masculinity, feminism, etc but you use the actual term and they lose their shit.
Agreed, especially because these topics tend to be more academic and the lay-people don't really know about it aside from what is popularized or what they think the words mean based off a literal interpretation.
When a fascist calls the left fascist, they are literally saying "I'm not racist, everyone but me is racist." This is called a Superiority Complex.
I doubt that Dennis Prager would survive being judged on the content of his character.
You can't claim to be be colorblind if your actions indicate you are not colorblind
When people say "I don't see colour", they DON'T mean "I ignore examples of bigotry". They just mean "I believe in equality and am not hateful towards people based on their race".
But not being hateful Isn’t really enough
Ya have to acknowledge that their expirence is largely informed by their color
I’ve mostly seen “I don’t see color” as a reaction when when people are discussing systematic oppression
The color of someone’s skin is very relevant
@@sharlene3819 Except the people saying they don't see colour and meaning they aren't hateful towards other races DON'T mean "And I don't care about racism". They are just saying that they are not racist.
For some people that is what they are saying and for lots of other people it a shield for their bigotry. One minute they'll say "I don't see race" then the next minute, "If black people pulled themselves up by their bootstraps they wouldn't be so poor" they're willfully ignoring the history of discrimination and the problems poc face. So using the phrase "I don't see race" has some nuance that is essentially racist, just don't use it. There are better ways to try to say what you're saying
Why do you people always afford the least charitable interpretation to everyone? Person makes edgy jokes? They must be racist! Person calls out woke CIA for being full of shit? They're on their way to becoming a Nazbol! Person says "I don't see colour"? They must mean they don't oppose racism!
I swear, one day you people will consider "All races should be equal" to be a Nazi dog-whistle, because some people who say it don't believe it.
@@t.i.5528 Yeah many people don't mean anything bad when they say, "I don't see color." It just seems like many of the people who use the phrase also hold other views and use it to justify ignoring problems facing certain groups. I don't think anybody is saying that "I don't see color." Is an inherently racist statement either. They are simply trying to convey to those who use it, that it is an impossible and counterproductive view to take, from their prospective.
To be honest it doesn't really matter if somebody uses the phrase, in my opinion, as a simple phrase isn't a worldview. What matters are the other ideas that go along with the phrase, nonetheless when people say it and don't add some nuance it's hard to understand where they are coming from.
I think that it's better to just flat out explain your opinions on some things, rather than rely on a phrase like "I don't see color." Because of how ambiguous it's meaning has become. Again though, I can understand that many use it with good intentions.
We don't call ourselves height blind, gender blind, or what have you, in order to convey that we think all groups should be treated equal. Claiming to be blind to something that you can clearly see just doesn't sit well with me personally.
It's like when people say "It's always in the last place you look!" My mind always jumps to "That's because you don't keep looking for it after you found it." But sometimes they mean that it was literally in the last place they could have possibly looked. But their use of that phrase doesn't really convey exactly that meaning, as many who use the phrase find what they are looking for before they literally look in the last place possible. While this doesn't really matter in this instance, I just want to highlight that when a phrase has more than one meaning it can produce different thoughts in different people hearing it.
Conservatives Learn a New MLK Quote Challenge (Impossible)
Saying you are Colorblind is 1 to 1 w saying I don't see disability, then getting confused why a paraplegic can't run Lmao
My gods, that little "imagine if the whole world was blind" thought experiment was the most lazy thing I've heard a long time, but I'm sure it fooled a whole tonne of PragerU fans. The success of people like Prago here kind of proves that the United States is not a meritocracy. Lol
"Colorblindness" is intrinsically related to being "apolitical".
Conservatives should really take a sociology class once in awhile because it basically goes over concepts such as colorblindness and how harmful it is as it ignores the issues of POCs and continue with the current status quo in an effort to paint everyone as "equal". And much more. Quite informative really though I feel they'd just called it "woke" or something.
@Garden Knomi “under the law”
Slavery was also under the law, have you never taken a sociology class in your life?You know laws don’t just change the structure of society like that, right?They outlawed alcohol once and it didn’t work, society doesn’t just change like that.The law is but paper, in practice it is much different.Let’s see with the “law” has any power
@Garden Knomi tribalism is not racism. Tribalism is usually identitarian and ideological. Claiming that racism is human nature misunderstands how artificially gerrymandered the boundaries of "race" are.
@Garden Knomi You might think that, but you're wrong. That's... about it. Again, "everyone has equal rights under the law" just ignores laws like certain voter ID laws, where the lawmakers simply decided to ban the use of IDs far more commonly used as black people's sole form of ID than any white person. That's clearly racist, but the law never mentions race. Try to watch the video maybe?
This is why education is the greatest predicator of political ideology.
As a person of colour, yeah, I see my race every time I look in the mirror. I mixed to all hell and Ive lost my heritage due to slavery and totalitarian regimes, so I just see myself as "mixed" but to this day I have insecurity about having big lips, slanted eyes, and body hair. I held myself to Asian beauty standards because I wasnt "chinese enough" and hated my "black" features. Top all of that with hispanic people being "exotic" and an asian-black Cuban like me can ONLY see my race when I look in the mirror because Ive always felt aesthetically inferior to people my whole life. Its taken me YEARS to get to the point of tolerating myself, and im nowhere near the point of loving myself yet. I dont consider myself any specific race anymore because im not enough to fit into any category, but i am definitely not white and I definitely spend way too much time aware of it on a subconscious daily basis.
God fuck Prager, I hope his support leaves him slowly one by one under his nose until hes left with nothing and then stagnates on the cusp of misery. Nothing too major and dangerous, just enough to be placed in the situation he's fought so hard against. Sadly I doubt he'll get there, but manifesting babes
Edit: typos
It's interesting how people say gender dysphoria is a thing but not race or ethnic dysphoria.
being “colorblind” implies that seeing color would make a difference
16:04 I said "Hola Dennis" and RUclips chat went wild
It’s such a impressively twisted logic: “me not giving a shit about your systemic race problem means I am in fact NOT racist!”
Conservatives: "Republicans are oppressed on campus, and on social media"
Smart people: "I don't see political affiliation"
Conservatives: *Seethes*
Prager U: We don’t see color at Prager U. That would be racist.
Also Prager u: “Let’s have a cartoon of a black lady named Tamika and a brown dude name Jose”
Damn, I thought Vaush was debating Max Headroom based on the thumbnail.
Well considering that the Max Headroom incident was done by someone who probably hated "liberals" they might actually get along quite well lol
“Does anyone really look in the mirror and see color? No we don’t.” Is such an insanely ignorant and privileged thing to say its kind of astounding. Yeah of course YOU don’t look in the mirror and see color Dennis because white is the default and there’s no reason for you to see it. This is fundamentally different for minority groups who have had their color forcibly applied to their existence for centuries. They look in the mirror and see color because color is one of the defining characteristics of how they are treated and perceived.
Rip being actually colorblind
Those poor poor racists
@@martins458 was talking about genetic colorblindness. You know red green, blue yellow, stuff like that. Was meant as rip how the term used to describe a disability is now wrapped up in a racist populations attempts to not appear racist
@@lorekeeperxvii2408 I know, it was a bad joke
@@martins458 oh, it just sounded like you didnt get it
It's kinda like if after the Civil War instead of the 13th amendment they were just like "Okay, let's just not get any more slaves and we won't distinguish who should or should not be a slave based on their race..." and then all the black people who were already enslaved just remained slaves...
Willfully ignoring the damaging legacy of Jim Crow is a form of willful ignorance. A sign of intense privilege.
When I look at the mirror I don't see the fat rolls on my body. I just see me. If you see the fat on my body, well that makes you fat phobic because I don't see fat.
Such solid logic from Dennis Prager.
No, it's not. It's just that most people using the rhetoric aren't color blind.
EXACTLY!
"Vaush, I think I'm retarded, what's a pariah?"
-My favorite person 2021
I don't think the concept of colorblindness itself is necessarily racist -- I think it's the context that determines whether it is, or isn't. There are people who use it in good faith, and people who use it disingenuously. For those who mean well, I believe it comes down to the difference between systemic racism, and racism as it plays out during interpersonal interactions; the people with more genuine intentions regarding the term most likely mean that they don't make stereotypical assumptions about individuals based on their race, and that's it. I think it's a discussion worth having. Outside of obvious structural, and systemic racism there are certain over-zealous sections of the left that, in their best efforts to alleviate racism, end up placing people in boxes, or groups based on their ethnicity, or race -- albeit with good intentions. This could be regarding behavior, learning styles, pre-determined financial situations, cultural practices, or even the mere attempt at being more inclusive. It's probably better to know when it's beneficial, and appropriate to acknowledge differences, and when it isn't.
The mean-spirited colorblindness that you describe, is what Vaush mentions as the ideology and it's what the demon Prager advocates. Now regarding the left placing people in boxes based on their race/ethnicity, aren't we all already part of an ethnic group and class? Minorities do exist and their people should be proud of their cultures. Can you think of an instance where the left separates groups negatively?
@@sebastianbardon391 I do get what you're saying, and the folks at PragerU most definitely are of the disingenuous crowd. The thing about being proud of your heritage/race/ethnicity, though, is that that comes down to personal choice. There are those who are proud of their race, and ethnicity, and those who really don't see it as anything particularly significant about themselves, or what defines them, and neither one is wrong, or right.
This is actually a source of a lot of conflict on the left (and even between well-meaning right-leaning individuals). The idea that you should be proud of your race isn't something that should really be enforced. It's only up to the individual to make that determination. After all we don't expect this of white people This is also true in regard to loyalty to someone's race, or minority group. While minority groups exist they are not a monolith. It's important to maintain the distinction between minority groups, and tribalism; it's in this arena where well-meaning, but ultimately negative instances of separation, and interacting can occur.
A specific example might be creating a headline for a minority who's just become the first, or second person of that demographic to achieve something in a specific field that reads "First (or second) African American so and so accomplishes so and so," thus making them a poster-person for their race without first consulting them, and/or getting their thoughts on the matter. Representation matters, but how a minority is represented in either instance has both negative, and positive effects -- for instance in this case the person might feel that their accomplishment for their race is overshadowing their actual achievement, making it about their race instead of them (which really isn't fair to the person if you think about it). Highlighting their race may not only be unnecessary, but could be seen as an act of segregation. An even more egregious example of this is creating specific categories for minorities when it comes to entertainment, music, art, etc as opposed to simply including them with the rest -- or throwing a cultural party for a minority when you don't even know if they embrace their culture, or not. Better to just treat them as individuals while recognizing that systemic racism is real when it's important to do so.
@@Joyness333 I feel that we have slight differences in our takes but ultimately we agree. Perhaps being proud is not the right wording nowadays, the proud boys are not great exponents of my point here. I guess that get to know your culture, roots, ethnic heritage is more appropriate. Here in LatAm, due to centuries of colonialism our cultures get diluted, slowly turning into monoliths. I've several women that were embarrased of their hairs. In some countries afro is called bad hair, girls and women daily fight against their own hair due to the caucasian propaganda in western culture.
The examples you mentioned are not necessarily leftists. It doesn't represent the ideology but rather out of touch people. Anyhow, I get your point. Thanks for the reply!
@@sebastianbardon391 My pleasure! And the hair examples are definitely valid points. It's still important to recognize other races, and ethnicities -- and as equal, and viable. Diversity should not be frowned upon.
@@sebastianbardon391 It's normal for people, especially chicks, to be embarrassed with their hair. Or anything for that matter.
Dennis P. is the type to say he doesn’t see race, but locks his door when black people walk like ten meters from his car.
shout-out to Quinn if they see this, I love you 💗
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I used to think “1 don’t see colour”, but didn’t realise what that term meant beyond the surface virtue of not judging based on race. I got educated and I’m better for it. I didn’t understand privilege, I do now and I’m better for it. I’ve never been racist, but I’ve spoken like one and didn’t understand why, I got schooled and I’m better for it. As a white man that’s spent my entire life around immigrants I can honestly say I’m a better human because of it. I’ve got to participate in traditional Indian weddings, fall in love with Hiphop, anime, Bollywood and traditional foods, just to name some off the top of my head! I love the fact my country is a hodgepodge of cultural diversity. Racism is dumb, education is our only non violent solution. Even being a non racist myself… I needed the education.
Wassup Homes! I don't want to come over like a square, dude, but this is heavy. Dennis Prager is a cool cat who's down with the kids. His video postings are dope. Don't diss the Dennis!
This video is merely an example of how conservatives have a hard time with nuanced or critical thought. Everything is black and white with no room or colour (because colour is confusing and scary).
I mean, in Alabama they're pretty nuanced when it comes to incest. Guess it just needs to be a topic that they're well versed in. /s
I feel like people don’t like calling this racist because when people hear that something is racist, they think it means anyone who does it is racist, and being racist is a (rightly) horrific quality. Maybe I’m oblivious but I think most people who call themselves colorblind just mean they don’t interpersonally evaluate people by race, not that they don’t know that racism affects people by race. Or maybe most people who take that label are that ignorant idk
The problem is, though, that everyone makes evaluations based on anything their brain takes in. Everyone literally does see race, and cannot stop their brains from making assumptions based on that. It is called implicit bias, and declaring oneself colorblind does not rid a person of any implicit bias, it actually prevents them from acknowledging and ridding themselves of such bias. colorblindness is a disingenuous ideology, although, at one point, it was a genuine attempt at not being racist, it failed at that and has now been coopted by racists, as demonstrated by the PragerU video.
@@MrDominickNathaniel Is there reason to believe that personal acknowledgement of implicit bias, or denial of it, causes it to be diminished? I've seen arguments in both directions but at base this seems like a statistical question of the relationship between people's self-evaluation of their own racial biases and people's actual racist behaviors and beliefs. Is there data suggesting a relationship in either direction on this?
Regarding the idea that it "has failed", I think probably for some people it's a con, like PragerU. Probably not for others. I don't think there was some moment in time or some time period when it switched. It's always been an aspirational desire for interpersonal equality for some people and a facade for ignoring structural oppression for others.
Quick addendum to this, did some brief checks on google scholar and it seems like the literature DOES suggest that statistically, awareness of one's own implicit biases does lead to their reduction on average. Point taken. I don't mean to argue here that implicit bias is unreal (although this data I'm seeing now is informative on ways to deal with it), but I do think that there is a hill to overcome in distinguishing to people that discussions of implicit bias, or the problems with colorblindness, aren't morally impugning people for *attempting* to be colorblind or bar implicit bias from their decisions, as futile a task as it may be. I think most people are well intentioned and it's a matter of education
@@dylanb265 I appreciate your reasoned response, and I agree with your assessment. This is definitely a matter of education regarding implicit bias and its lack of moral impunity, and most average individuals are likely well-intentioned in their claims of colorblindness. I would argue, though, that most organizations and public personalities, like Dennis Prager and PragerU, claiming colorblindness are being disingenuous.
I also want to point out that while statistical data will reinforce the notion that awareness of biases leads to bias reduction, this conclusion can also be reached through heuristics, "common sense," or adage: "The first step to solving a problem is acknowledging that it exists." I would argue that failure to acknowledge or be aware of implicit bias is akin to failure to admit any other problem (i.e. addiction, relationship issues, getting behind on work/school, etc.) exists, such that it may, then, not be addressed.
Regarding the "failure" or colorblindness, I agree that the notion of any individual being "colorblind" is a con for some and genuine for others. I was referring to its failure in academic/public circles as a viable/accepted theory for dealing with prejudice, and how at one point, colorblindness was at the forefront of racial study, but now, it is regarded as "racist."
If I am hiring someone for my company and it’s a choice between a competent black guy and a incompetent white guy then I’m going to hire the black guy. This is what people mean when they say colorblindness. It’s not denying that the black guy may have had additional challenges in getting to where he has, it just means I’m not going to bring his skin color into consideration when making any decisions.
Well for me the colorblindness can be anti racist as well if it done right. But if it done bad than it's racist.
How can colorblindness be anti-racist? It's pretty much required that you acknowledge how black people, for example, are disadvantaged by some social systems that white people aren't, you explicitly HAVE to be able to see and differentiate color to be anti racist
@@yan_dj It's not whether or not that colorblindness is racist but it have to do with if someone practicing it right or they are doing it wrong and the outcome is racism.
Colorblindness supposed to be anti racist but some times when people using too of it to the point that they ignore the problem of systemic racism and so on.
The question here is colorblindness racist or not? Well it depends on number of things.
@@yan_dj I think people use the term in a much narrower sense than that. I think people usually just mean "the absence of interpersonal discrimination on the basis of skin color" as opposed to "completely ignoring skin color such that you become incapable of acknowledging systemic racial inequalities."
When Dennis Prager brings up Christians who opposed slavery ask him what he thinks of John Brown to really get an idea of what his actual position on the issue is.
Forts
Citadels
If everyone woke up blind, Prager would make fun of deaf people I bet
me, red-green colorblind, realizing i've been a member of the KKK all along:
It sneaks up on you like that
As someone who is… ACTUALLY COLORBLIND, I kinda fucking hate that term
Here is a more accurate explanation of colorblindness.
The Colorblind Narrative: Race doesn't matter.
MLK Jr: Race does matter as a sociological concept, but it shouldn't.
Nope, race doesn’t matter
The problem with "lets just act colorblind everybody and there will be no racism" is exactly the same as "everybody drop their guns and there will be no wars".
If a conservative complains about gender issues can we just ask them to be "Sex Blind"? where would the problem with that be?
Becuz da bibul sez it's wrong!
Dennis Prager acting like gay men werent pariahs in the 80s
Has Dennis Prager ever made a claim that's held up to a mote of scrutiny?
Gay men and intravenous drug users were never treated as pariahs? What reality is he living in?
I'm still at the beginning part of the video, and as someone from a state with one of the highest rates of HIV cases from heterosexual sexual transmission in the country (Florida), I beg to differ on Prager's propaganda calling heterosexual transmission of HIV a myth. And of course I also understand that there are so many areas where a colorblind approach simply cannot work. There are times it can work - contests comparing how well people do something, like cooking or something artistic or something scientific or mathematical. But anything sociological requires nuance and an examination of intersectional issues, because we do not exist in a vacuum.
I always look in the mirror and go “look it’s a black person”
How many times in one video can Dennis Prager clumsily repeat the same tired, infantile, anti intellectual argument?
I lost count.
I got a PragerU ad before this video.
Dennis REALLY doesn't want me to hear the truth!!
14:34 Always remember, no matter how bad you look when you're paused, at least you don't look like that.
After the Brown v Board of Ed decision the primary tactic of states opposing it was to argue that they *couldn't possibly* desegregate schools because to do so would mean that they had to notice a student's race, and therefore wouldn't it be DEsegregation that was racist? The Supreme Court called that bullshit out as bullshit at the time, saying: "Just as the race of students must be considered in determining whether a constitutional violation has occurred, so also must race be considered in formulating a remedy."
So, like we've been aware of the racism of this "how can I be racist if I don't see color" crap for about 70 years already.