Excellent video! I have a 2008 Crown Vic LX and have been considering swapping out the 2:73 for a 3:27 Power-Trac. You answered alot of questions I had. Looks fairly simple for even a DIY like me.
I got rid of the open 2.73's in mine too. Picked up a posi and bought a used but like new set of OEM Ford 3.27 gears for $40 and did the swap, with all new bearings and seals of course. What a difference, especially with several people in the car is where I really noticed an acceleration difference. Also added a 1" addco 650 rear sway bar at the same time and that big boat handles and drives like a car half it's size now.
Im not gonna lie...Grand ma has been fun to drive with the new rear end. The handling is so much better. Thank you for your hard work babe! this was a good one
@@garymatthys3605 correct you have to change the gear ratio in the ecm but the abs/trac lights will come on till its changed it'll try to trigger the abs/trac 3 or 4 times then turn its self off at that point abs/trac is turned off lights will stay on brakes will work normal but no abs/trac
@@RespectableAdult I have sold the trac lok . I only have the 327 open diff left for sale . You ca contact me via facebook . Look up my page maritimetmitch
I love the content man bc I personally own a 2003 Mercury Marauder and 2 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis... They all have aftermarket parts and I'll be giving the Marquis's to my 2 older Son's here in a few years but hey keep up the hardwork my friend!!! #StaySafe & #StayBlessed 😎👍
One thing I don't like about the C clips to hold the axle in, if you have ever been offroad in a jeep with a dana 35 rear, when they break an axle it comes right out. Never fun getting home.
There is lots of products out there. Some last better than others, but unfortunate the only thing that tends to be permanent is a torch. When you wave the flame lightly around the effected trim, it darkens it back to original. Its a fine art to not melt it.
I would have thought with 3.27s it would burn some tires? I have original 2.73s and still peels out a lil bit. My tires are also Michelin all weather's w about 80% tread
Oh it burns rubber, but you got to brake burn it! These cars are too heavy and underpowered to smokem right outta the gate! But a Marty tune is coming for this car. That will all change!
@@OldeCarrGuy ya I was looking into the marty. I called about 3.73 gears with posi using revolution gear brand it's guna run $1,300 at my local shop 🤦🏻♂️
That a new Brunswick plate? If so I'm also from NB, built a 07 p71 , full long tubes, exhaust cutouts, 373 with lsd and so on , just bought a 03 lx vic on monday that I'm starting to build , love to go for a cruise if your in the province
Rpm didn't change at all compared to the old gears vs the new gears because the speedometer is off because it was set to the old gears nice work Jason great work on removal and install bet junior was a ton of help so you didn't have to strain to get it up there
You can, but you need to find an assembly from your era of car. Little things like the shock placement is different, maybe a couple other little thinks.
It is Limited Slip and the main reason for the swap. I picked mine up from a auto salvage yard. You have to ask for a locking rear axle assembly for the year car you have when you call the yard and they can cross it to several other vehicles. Keep in mind that when you change the gear ratio you change the accuracy of your speedometer.
Everything works as normal with the exception of the speedometer being off. This is the only thing that would need to be reprogrammed, but i'm not worried about it as it's not off by that much. I can live with it!.
Check out the Ultragauge II. It displays a lot of info, and will do what most hand held consumer scanners can do - www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/ Please no lift, and no excessively large diameter rims. 17's are best, and no more than 18's. My '08 with 3.27 gears does about 1760 RPM @ 60 MPH.
The swap was quite straight forward. The biggest thing to get used to after the fact is your speedometer will not be accurate by 10-12 km/hour or 7-10 mph! I didn’t bother with getting it recalibrated but I believe any Ford dealership can correct it!
This is the third time I've watched you try to use the 0-60 app on your phone. You do it wrong every time. You need to open the calendar app. Heart me daddy.
1 don't lift this panther find another well used one to ruin. Lol 2 change the speedo gear before wife has a cow wondering why everyone is passing her at 100 kph. Lol And 3 is it wrong that I laughed like crazy when you launched all the electronics onto floor?
Excellent video! I have a 2008 Crown Vic LX and have been considering swapping out the 2:73 for a 3:27 Power-Trac. You answered alot of questions I had. Looks fairly simple for even a DIY like me.
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Seeing the camera mounted to the rear end 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Moral of this video...Gears! A locking diff with 3.27s -- add in a 3500 stall and it'll haul ass!!!
Dude, Blackberry Smoke. :D
You like them too?
Excellent video! I have a 2008 Crown Vic LX and have been considering swapping out the 2:73 for a 3:27 Power-Trac. You answered alot of questions I had. Looks fairly simple for even a DIY like me.
I got rid of the open 2.73's in mine too. Picked up a posi and bought a used but like new set of OEM Ford 3.27 gears for $40 and did the swap, with all new bearings and seals of course. What a difference, especially with several people in the car is where I really noticed an acceleration difference. Also added a 1" addco 650 rear sway bar at the same time and that big boat handles and drives like a car half it's size now.
I found the same thing! I bit more pick up from a stop! Thanks for watching.
Im not gonna lie...Grand ma has been fun to drive with the new rear end. The handling is so much better. Thank you for your hard work babe! this was a good one
SO???? Can I buy another one? For me?
Hi, love the wheels. What model mustang has these n Any mods to fit them?
If your car is 03-11 there are no mods or spacers. Any model mustang wheels will work. I don’t know the model of these ones!
did this swap couple months ago on my 01 marquis i forgot to change the speedo gear it pissed off both abs an traction control
Does a 2004 even have a speedo gear to change? They're electronic aren't they?
@@garymatthys3605 correct you have to change the gear ratio in the ecm but the abs/trac lights will come on till its changed it'll try to trigger the abs/trac 3 or 4 times then turn its self off at that point abs/trac is turned off lights will stay on brakes will work normal but no abs/trac
03 and up use speed sensors and yes, must be reprogrammed! That’s where Mo’s comes in!
@@87fubar how do you fix that in the older 2000 models? Will a marty tune fix that aswell or is it different
Gotta love a posi. I have 2 rear ends for sale 327 open and 327 trac lok. I'm going to get a 327 rear end for my car this weekend in truro
I’s love to buy the 3.27 trac lok. How can I contact you?
@@RespectableAdult I have sold the trac lok . I only have the 327 open diff left for sale . You ca contact me via facebook . Look up my page maritimetmitch
Every Panther needs a tracLoc.
@@OldeCarrGuy amen to that
You working good on grand ma
Oh yes! Thanks bud
Yes, lift it, they even sell a kit...
I did lift my 2003. Check that video out!
With that mo's tune... oh boy. Shes gunna be a fun lux
She’ll be a ripper
Brother what size tire and are there spacers if so what size? Pleas and thank you
245/45R18 on 18" Mustang wheels. No spacers needed on 2003 and up panthers.
need!
I love the panther platform. I’m currently building a Lincoln Town Car hearse.
I’d love to see that!
Did you ever figure out why your speedometer was reading wrong just swapped my rear and I’m off 10mphs
It’s because of the difference in gear ratio.
@@OldeCarrGuy how do I correct this do you know
@@daviddobbins1047 either a Marty Tune from Mo's Speed Shop or contact your local Ford dealer.
Was the axel code C8 ??
I don't remember. Sorry
This is the vid ive been waiting for!
Yeah buddy
I really wanna do this on my 06 marquis
Another great video! I miss my grand marquis.
Thanks
Also yes. Please get one and lift it. I've considered it too
Stay tuned
I love the content man bc I personally own a 2003 Mercury Marauder and 2 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis... They all have aftermarket parts and I'll be giving the Marquis's to my 2 older Son's here in a few years but hey keep up the hardwork my friend!!! #StaySafe & #StayBlessed 😎👍
Your kids will thank you!
Could have used that cherry picker (engine hoist) to move that rear end. Car looks good!
That’s just too easy
Panthera
Scientific name
One thing I don't like about the C clips to hold the axle in, if you have ever been offroad in a jeep with a dana 35 rear, when they break an axle it comes right out. Never fun getting home.
I bet not!
Nice experiments jason 👌 👍 will defenitly help test what the vehicle does with the new Gears in the rear
For sure
olde carr guy what can i use to redo the black plastic around the body? paint marker ????lol
I got some mothers back to black trim plastic restorer, lets see how she goes
There is lots of products out there. Some last better than others, but unfortunate the only thing that tends to be permanent is a torch. When you wave the flame lightly around the effected trim, it darkens it back to original. Its a fine art to not melt it.
@@OldeCarrGuy thank you
@@OldeCarrGuy those dang ol door handles, i'mma try your trick with the torch on them
Love the rear axle cam. Hope your back is ok though!
All good
When are we going to see the jump over the river video?
Soon!
I would have thought with 3.27s it would burn some tires? I have original 2.73s and still peels out a lil bit. My tires are also Michelin all weather's w about 80% tread
Oh it burns rubber, but you got to brake burn it! These cars are too heavy and underpowered to smokem right outta the gate! But a Marty tune is coming for this car. That will all change!
@@OldeCarrGuy ya I was looking into the marty. I called about 3.73 gears with posi using revolution gear brand it's guna run $1,300 at my local shop 🤦🏻♂️
God I miss Tim Hortons
Transmission rolling jack stand and 2 ratchet straps next time
It worked for me!
No sugar in your coffee!!
No sir!
I don't miss having to move a rear end alone on a floor jack. Can totally relate there
It definitely sucks
Love all the new panther content brother!! Can't wait to see what is next!
Glad to hear it! Please consider subscribing if you haven't already!
That a new Brunswick plate? If so I'm also from NB, built a 07 p71 , full long tubes, exhaust cutouts, 373 with lsd and so on , just bought a 03 lx vic on monday that I'm starting to build , love to go for a cruise if your in the province
Hi Spencer. I am in NB. If you're ever in the St. Stephen area, look me up.
Rpm didn't change at all compared to the old gears vs the new gears because the speedometer is off because it was set to the old gears nice work Jason great work on removal and install bet junior was a ton of help so you didn't have to strain to get it up there
Yup
Your lifted panther could be GrandPa. Grandma is sounding awesome.
No grandpa
I got a 2000 Mercury, Can I use the 3.27 diff?
You can, but you need to find an assembly from your era of car. Little things like the shock placement is different, maybe a couple other little thinks.
Lmfao obd2 card reader its not a sd card lmfao omg that blooper was funny
😂
definitely build a lifted one! lift the whole world! ahahah
Hello Pancake64. I did do just that! ruclips.net/video/aF_fnY9iJFw/видео.html
So I have to swap out the whole diff to change the gears?
You don't have to. I did because its I absolutely hate setting the backlash, shimming. Besides, I had the means to do it this way in my shop.
@@OldeCarrGuy is it limited slip? Where did you get it from? What do I have to look for?
It is Limited Slip and the main reason for the swap. I picked mine up from a auto salvage yard. You have to ask for a locking rear axle assembly for the year car you have when you call the yard and they can cross it to several other vehicles. Keep in mind that when you change the gear ratio you change the accuracy of your speedometer.
wow....you got dirty. O.o
Just for you! 😉
*Those wooden platforms sure have come in handy*
Yer right!
Where you get the differential from?
Junkyard! Took a bit to find one though!
Does the traction control still work and did U have to do anything to the ecu to tell the car the gearing is different
Everything works as normal with the exception of the speedometer being off. This is the only thing that would need to be reprogrammed, but i'm not worried about it as it's not off by that much. I can live with it!.
How different is the driving experience?
I got a 05 and I wanna change the gearing
@@leonidas6342 Definitely a noticeable difference. More responsive. Not to mention great burnouts.lol
Check out the Ultragauge II. It displays a lot of info, and will do what most hand held consumer scanners can do - www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/ Please no lift, and no excessively large diameter rims. 17's are best, and no more than 18's. My '08 with 3.27 gears does about 1760 RPM @ 60 MPH.
I am going to lift it but with 16” and 31” mud tires
Was there a major difference with the swap?
How's the rpms aswell
The swap was quite straight forward. The biggest thing to get used to after the fact is your speedometer will not be accurate by 10-12 km/hour or 7-10 mph! I didn’t bother with getting it recalibrated but I believe any Ford dealership can correct it!
I'd like to have more vids on this.is it easy to chirp the tires?
This video is the last in a series of 4 video that lead to doing the swap. It's definitely easier to chirp the tires.
What about a steeda underdrive pulleys mod video? Not to exspensive and more content. Did you ever change out the TB?
I’ve not swapped the TB on Grandma... Yet
What rear gears did u go with?
3.27 seems to have woken it up.
Thanks I’m thinking about going 4.10 on my 95 mercury grand marquis
How did you fix the speedo and by how much is it off? Can we do it without a tune?
I have a video coming out on this exact thing. Stay tuned for Friday's upload.
This is the third time I've watched you try to use the 0-60 app on your phone.
You do it wrong every time.
You need to open the calendar app.
Heart me daddy.
Chuck...Chuck...Chuck! What am I gonna do with you?
Looks zippy now, well done. Turbo conversion?!
Maybe not
Get an old cop car and lift it!
I did get another panther, just not a P71
1 don't lift this panther find another well used one to ruin. Lol
2 change the speedo gear before wife has a cow wondering why everyone is passing her at 100 kph. Lol
And 3 is it wrong that I laughed like crazy when you launched all the electronics onto floor?
Oh Dave! You’re such a worrier! 😂
Get a P71 and put a lift on that!
Or another MGM
@@OldeCarrGuy or a Town car! That would be sick!
Man bro. I don’t know much about cars but I wish I coulda been there to give you a hand with the differential.
Me too! Can always use a helper!
3 inch lift with bigger tires on grandma sounds like it would look pretty good i like the idea Jason 👍
Oh yes
You sound like Barack Obama.
Thanks! I think!
3" lift. ...no.
Sorry!
Excellent video! I have a 2008 Crown Vic LX and have been considering swapping out the 2:73 for a 3:27 Power-Trac. You answered alot of questions I had. Looks fairly simple for even a DIY like me.
Lol I've got a 3:27 I've been wanting to swap out for a 2:73. I'd trade with someone if they'd help me swap it out.