@@JonJonsLifeLessons I've done this once, few miles short of the field. You follow the Highway to get in pattern anyway. Just landed on the 80 mph zone, pretty fine turnout considering I was flying in a Cessna 180. The engine was expensive, I had the whole thing replaced.
I really admire the ATC in this video. He did an outstanding job by showing genuine care for and providing continuous support to the endangered pilot.Hat off to you!
@@katokagome4670 scary situation to think a fuel pipe break or inpure fuel could be the cause. its amazing how major commercial airports always seem to have clear pure fuel.
Excellent not only ATC but 451AT who deserves a commendation for rendering assistance in the finest traditions of Aviation. Helping when you do not have to is what makes us people.
Wow! Seems like a perfect landing on the Interstate, great job! Awesome work by the ATC and the relaying aircraft. So glad this incident ended so well!
Whew yes! That happened in my neck of the woods. So proud for this pilot! Kept calm, saved his plane, and didn’t hit traffic, obstacles, or overpasses. Great job, man. Now, fuel it up and keep it that way! Kudos to the relaying aircraft and ATC, too.
This was my favorite recording - probably because the relief in the ATC's voice was so relatable. Almost choked up even tho I knew it ended ok. Terrific job, gents.
This happened about 30 miles from me, excellent job by the pilot, not the best spot to have to put one down, multiple bridges and obstuctions and also a high traffic zone. Extremely lucky no one was hurt good job to all
That wasn't a very wide chunk of roadway either! Not a 'typical' interstate, it doesn't appear to have lane-width shoulders on both sides. VERY impressive touch down!
Apparently, the guy bought the plane, just before this flight and ran out of gas, because of a faulty fuel gauge. In my pre flight inspections, there is a spot in there to VERIFY fuel quantity using a dip guage in each tank on the wing. I guess this guy will need to start doing that at some point.
It is amazing that the pilot was able to not only land on an interstate but pull off on to the shoulder. Most drivers don’t even attempt to move over to the shoulders. This is the one of the few times when it would have been okay to just stop in the middle of the interstate.
Calm, superprofessional. Can't think the pilot, who sounds like a real pro, didn't verify fuel quantity prior to takeoff. ATC was cool as could be. And relay pilot really helped out. Great work all around.
Glad the controller knew better than to tell the pilot which direction to land on the highway, but he could have given him information about local winds. Good job by the pilot.
what i love about this is he even bothered to pull over for the drivers on the road. For someone whoes landed on a Highway with a cessna, he certainly seems to use it like a car.
So it appears that it was a faulty fuel gauge on a plane that he had just purchased that morning. It was not disclosed to him that the fuel gauge was faulty. He was able to get the plane transported back to Virginia Highlands Airport, refueled, spoke with FAA and then continued on his trip.
Due to the presence of the fuel truck on the freeway, surprised he didn’t fly it out of there. Looks like an AvGas truck, not just some nice guy with a tanker.
Warms my heart to hear the concern and relief in the ATC guy's voice! so happy pilot and people on the ground are safe. Thanks for the videos, you do such a great job!
Great landing Captain and fantastic teamwork by all involved! It's a good thing he wasn't in Pennsylvania trying to set'er down on I-81. Between pot holes and the never ending road construction, he would have no place to land.
Thanks for posting that. I thought maybe there wasn't enough comm or other data available after I sent it to you. It happened in my back door, so to speak, I saw the TV coverage, but it's great to hear the inside the cockpit side of things. Again, thanks
This channel does an incredible job highlighting the tremendous job that controllers do, with the support of fellow pilots like N721AT in this situation.
I've had days where I left work and thought "wow, I did something really incredible today, and I'm proud of what I got done!" But this man probably went home prouder than he ever has in his life, and prouder than I've ever been about anything I've done, and for got reason.
The only thing ATC missed (or I've misunderstood) is @ 4:20 when the pilot asked what direction he should land. He could already see the expressway, so I was assuming he was asking which way would give him a headwind.
ATC replies "I can't tell you that, sir" but does say which direction the interstate runs. Maybe he doesn't know the wind direction since there's no weather station on the interstate...or maybe the most important factors (like overpasses) are best assessed visually anyway.
Outstanding ATC - clear, calm and decisive. Conversely, poor communication from The pilot. If he didn’t have a controller who recognised his emergency so soon it could of been a very different outcome - thankfully it wasn’t!
Thanks a lot for these videos VASA, they're priceless. This one in particular, for example. They move so many gears inside, quite a thing for empathetic people. By the way, did you choose VASA as your nick because of the famous Swedish warship? That's one museum I'm missing gotta admit, even when it has nothing to do with aviation :-)
ATC man , his voice when he knew the status of people on the ground the pilot, was so genuine, and professional . There are still people who cares. Highly recommend to listen to this video.
We flyers need to have the head computer running on all circuits during emergencies. The pilot never sounded stressed. He was concentrating on the job at hand, flying the aircraft. Communicating and comprehending. He could teach that controller a thing or two about keeping your wits. Calmness and concentration saves lives. Outstanding work. I'd sit right seat with this guy any time.
The problem is: They always forget to say MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY when they want to declare emergency. Maybe because too panic~~ Thank for the ATC always ask them back "Do you want to declare emergency?."
Some pilots underestimate the situation. Other pilots overreact. You don't know what was going on in the cockpit at that moment. Maybe his engine just started running a bit rough at first. He did a great job staying cool about it. A lot cooler than i probably would be.
LOL, I was a tow truck driver. I towed a small airplane back to Montgomery field once. (ran out of fuel) I also got the call to tow a tank.. That was a fun job for a young guy. Everyone did a great job. I thought it was a little funny with the ATC when it come to exit 10. I guess exit 10 isn't on any air charts?
Absolutely no excuse for fuel exhaustion unless you have a leak. It was his first flight in aircraft and may have trusted his fuel gauges rather then fuel burn. FAA allow him to take off later.
Saw the shell gas truck in first pic and my first though was laughing “They’re really gunna gas him up, stop traffic and let him take off?!?” Lols Only laughing knowing how well this turned out... dad was a pilot and I can think of at least a few close calls... the highlight would probably be putting his A-36 down in Nashville just a few miles ahead of a tornado that struck the north section of the airport. Talk about a gusty nasty cross wind on that approach. We were trying to circle the storms all afternoon until they just swallowed us up lol
Yeah I had a few close calls with my dad in his airplane too, besides trying to kill us on his sailboat a couple of times. Luckily we all survived till his death from old age. His memorial service was full of tales of people almost dying with Chuck.
This reminds me of a small plane that made an emergency landing on US 17 in Myrtle Beach on September 5, 2018. Looks like the tail number was N22RE from photos on the local news, WPDE Channel 15.
Tends to be a bit of a difference between civilian and commercial aviation when it comes to communications with ATC, eh? Still, the pilot kept the right priority to Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. Good landing!
Great job by everyone involved! Why does the radio communication have to be relayed through the other aircraft? Isn't there radio towers placed around the ground so the communication can be relayed via those?
The tri-city tower will be designed to cover his area for normal flight altitudes. VHF signals essentially go in straight lines, so distant hills have a radio shadow behind them (unless the tower is super-tall). 1AT was at 9000 feet, so had a clear sight to the I-81 and to the tri-city tower. There might have been another controller nearby, but you don't want the emergency pilot to feel abandoned, and a frequency change is more workload when he's looking for a safe site to save his life. Hence the ATC saying "stay with me as long as you want"
When he declared an emergency it looked as though he was closer to KTRI than KVJI and judging when he was dropping it onto the highway it looked as though he could have made it to KTRI although the winds could have been unfavourable. His radio calls left a lot to be desired, but again, he was probably under a lot of stress. Glad it was a good outcome...
Thought so, but for planning purposes, back in is much easier. Depends on the status of fuel, if it was syphoning off from a loose cap, or just didn’t have any on departure. Given the abruptness, closest field would have been prudent, but ya know, here I am at home with my tea.
I live in the area. The VSP asked if they could fuel in the interstate first. Local reporters asked VSP at the press conference how the pilot knew his fuel was gone. Hmmm...
@@tw3145wallenstein Towers on mountains, mountains, big hills... that's the northeast Tennessee stretch of the Appalachian mountains. it's not the continental divide but it's certainly not flat either.
It's called 'radio horizon'. Note 1AT is airborne right overhead at 9000 feet but TRI APP is in a building on the ground and maybe far away from 45X current position - building and obstacles blocking the radio waves.
The closer to the ground you are, the more stuff in between the transmitter and the receiver will reduce the signal strength. Including the curvature of the earth itself. I love the team effort cooperation in this video. Made me feel warm inside.
I read the report (www.kathrynsreport.com/search?q=n8145x). Pilot just bought the aircraft and it was his first flight in the airplane as owner. So, he did not accomplish a proper preflight and visually check the fuel tanks before departure. If the tanks were that low, I wonder if the seller drained the tanks before selling it (Avgas is Expensive, you know).
Say it with me people "Emergency". Don't be afraid to use it. As soon as he knew it was a possible fuel/thrust issue, he should have spouted those words over ATC... wouldn't have made a difference, but it seems like he didn't want to use the words right away. Worst case scenario, state that you are having a malfunction and that you will get back to them with more. More than likely ATC will give you priority routing and attention if they know you are having an issue. Just my unneeded $0.02.
I was working at a Flight school/ Shop When one of our Rentals Ended up, Upside Down on Airport Rd.. The School had a scanner tuned into the Tower.. We All heard the Call and Heard OUR N#, over the scanner as he reported... he'd run out of Fuel, entering Downwind.. The tower clear him straight in and asked if he could make it.. "Negative" he said "I'm Dead Stick, Lining up on Airport rd, Traffic Below.." "POWERLINES, PULLING HARD" Then in a Calm Tone we hear...Tower this is N- Bla Bla.... Be advised, I'm upside down on Airprot Rd" When I got there, it was just amazing... Parts Everywhere... He was OK, Shook up but ok He said at the Last second he saw the wires.. Missed them But Stalled and Pancaked it in... Mains denting the Bottom of the wings and Flipped over its Nose landing Upside down.. and slid for 25 feet... The Lady in the car was FREAKED OUT.. Poor ol Gal.. Thank the Lord for Grumman Americans, Honeycomb Box Cabin... He walked away with just a scratch..
My favourite bit was "he's on the shoulder". Whether the pilot had the presence of mind to do it or it was just an automatic thing because thats what you would do in a car I don't know, but the fact he didn't just leave it in the middle of the highway is hilarious. I also like to imagine that the dispatcher for the tow truck company didn't tell the driver what he was picking up "yeah, only information we have is that its I-81 northbound just before exit 10 **stifled laughter**" 🤣🤣
What were the weather conditions like? I'm definitely not experienced enough to make the call but 6 miles at 4200 ft he might have just been able to (theoretically) make it to the field.
im interested in being an ATC, what are some huge deal breakers. all i can think of that might hold me back is a misdemeanor on my record and i have terrible eye sight (haven't looked into correction surgery, which might fix it) if those won't hold me back ill definitely start looking into it. thanks
You gotta be dedicated to get an ATC job. It takes a while, you have to get a medical and take several tests. Google how to and you'll find out the skinny on it.
Great flying but appalling radio work by the pilot. Declare the emergency early, get priority management from ATC so they know to vector you to where you need to go without delay. Can I just say, excellent situational awareness from 721AT.
I don't know about great flying because apparently if he was that great he wouldn't run out of fuel. I just landed yesterday in my twin cessna with 15 Gallons remaining or 40 minutes reserve. That's great fuel management
I understand that it was a stressful situation but part of training is emergency radio work. Declaring an emergency early would have helped -- along with having a sufficient amount of fuel on board. While saving the plane is admirable, not getting into a self-caused emergency is even better!
Krystal Pinkston yes because it’s a Cessna 172 it has only Left and right and both and I have over 500 hours in that airplane. I now fly a twin cessna with 6 tanks. main, aux and locker. When my locker pump fails I can’t do anything about it but I know I’ll be short 20 gallons so I plan accordingly.
@@Jopanaguiton oh yeah because it couldn't possibly be an indication problem right? It's obviously pilot error, and not a leak, or a carburetor malfunction, or a magneto issue, or any of the multiple other things that would make it seem like the engine was fuel starving. Maybe you missed the fact that the engine was running, it was just running shittily and kept stalling. From transmission he was able to restart the engine everytime it stalled, so fuel probably wasn't exhausted, but it would seem that way. Could've been a plugged up fuel filter, or water in the tank, or any number of things
I thought that was why the pilot was asking which side he should land on, meaning what does the wind look like in this area, but ATC didn’t seem to understand it that way.
@@Brontosauredumarais The wind is super unreliable. SW-NE ridgelines, if the wind's blowing from anywhere but straight up or down the valleys it's doing whatever it wants that moment.
So is that a gas truck parked in front of the aircraft? Did he simply refuel and was on his way? (I think the problem was reported as fuel exhaustion aka "out of gas" right?)
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*Fantastic job, guys!*
There was a plane that did the same thing here in Knoxville Tennessee not to long ago. Would love to hear what happened there.
@@JonJonsLifeLessons I've done this once, few miles short of the field. You follow the Highway to get in pattern anyway. Just landed on the 80 mph zone, pretty fine turnout considering I was flying in a Cessna 180. The engine was expensive, I had the whole thing replaced.
Gay!
Wow the voice of controler when he hear that the plane is on the ground and ok is just priceless
Yes, he was cool as a cucumber.
Pilot: "Can I make it there?"
ATC: "How the fuck should I know?"
I really admire the ATC in this video. He did an outstanding job by showing genuine care for and providing continuous support to the endangered pilot.Hat off to you!
yes but why did you not fuel for more than a few minutes?
@@katokagome4670 scary situation to think a fuel pipe break or inpure fuel could be the cause. its amazing how major commercial airports always seem to have clear pure fuel.
The fact that even a plane can “park” on the shoulder of an interstate during an emergency is amazing. Why can’t drivers do the same .
When I heard "shoulder" on the freeway... ha! what you gonna do with the wingspan? this guy literally parked a Cessna on the shoulder neatly!
Excellent not only ATC but 451AT who deserves a commendation for rendering assistance in the finest traditions of Aviation. Helping when you do not have to is what makes us people.
I love N721AT doing the radio relay. That's the brotherhood of aviation for you.
Imagine driving down the interstate and just see a Cessna chillin’ on the shoulder
Nice job N721AT, keeping the show going for us
All I can say is fantastic. Level of cooperation was excellent. Kudos to all and take care.
That information about the location of I81... super super helpful. Love that controller for that
That tow driver at the end better strap it down good or he's going to get up to highway speed on I-81 and no longer be towing anything.
weight reduction :D
@@williamto276 He'd better watch his speed too or he might start to get airborne.....
Just a fancy kite.
Robert Shanahan yeah he better watch his tiedowns, or Kennedy Steve might just roast him alive!
That’s a fuel truck. I bet the cops blocked off traffic and he just took off from the highway.
Wow! Seems like a perfect landing on the Interstate, great job! Awesome work by the ATC and the relaying aircraft. So glad this incident ended so well!
The fuel truck in the last picture would seem to suggest that the aircraft is still airworthy.
"It is fuel exhaustion"
"Can you tell me the fuel remaining?"
Haha, I was thinking the same
so the fuel is tired?
sounds like he's kind of low
That was my thought also - the engine may be starved for fuel, but that doesn't always mean the tanks are empty.
It could have been full of fuel with the fuel pump inoperable.
Whew yes! That happened in my neck of the woods. So proud for this pilot! Kept calm, saved his plane, and didn’t hit traffic, obstacles, or overpasses. Great job, man.
Now, fuel it up and keep it that way!
Kudos to the relaying aircraft and ATC, too.
And he pulled over on the shoulder! What a pilot
This was my favorite recording - probably because the relief in the ATC's voice was so relatable. Almost choked up even tho I knew it ended ok. Terrific job, gents.
This happened about 30 miles from me, excellent job by the pilot, not the best spot to have to put one down, multiple bridges and obstuctions and also a high traffic zone. Extremely lucky no one was hurt good job to all
It's amazing it happened so close to you. I didn't know you had airports in that state.
That wasn't a very wide chunk of roadway either! Not a 'typical' interstate, it doesn't appear to have lane-width shoulders on both sides. VERY impressive touch down!
@@RyTrapp0 I know this is old but yeah Tennessee shoulders are only 4-5 feet wide usually at most 15 feet
Apparently, the guy bought the plane, just before this flight and ran out of gas, because of a faulty fuel gauge. In my pre flight inspections, there is a spot in there to VERIFY fuel quantity using a dip guage in each tank on the wing.
I guess this guy will need to start doing that at some point.
It is amazing that the pilot was able to not only land on an interstate but pull off on to the shoulder. Most drivers don’t even attempt to move over to the shoulders. This is the one of the few times when it would have been okay to just stop in the middle of the interstate.
Calm, superprofessional. Can't think the pilot, who sounds like a real pro, didn't verify fuel quantity prior to takeoff. ATC was cool as could be. And relay pilot really helped out. Great work all around.
Fuel exhaustion that close to the departure field? I would have figured contamination.
But they sent the fuel truck, that’s a first for me.
Great job of all those involved. I love the fact that he even pulled to the side of the road so the traffic can sort of float through
Glad the controller knew better than to tell the pilot which direction to land on the highway, but he could have given him information about local winds. Good job by the pilot.
what i love about this is he even bothered to pull over for the drivers on the road. For someone whoes landed on a Highway with a cessna, he certainly seems to use it like a car.
So it appears that it was a faulty fuel gauge on a plane that he had just purchased that morning. It was not disclosed to him that the fuel gauge was faulty. He was able to get the plane transported back to Virginia Highlands Airport, refueled, spoke with FAA and then continued on his trip.
Not a pilot but have known a few and flown a bit and no good pilot ever depends on the fuel gauge.
Due to the presence of the fuel truck on the freeway, surprised he didn’t fly it out of there. Looks like an AvGas truck, not just some nice guy with a tanker.
Great co-operation all round. Top stuff!
Warms my heart to hear the concern and relief in the ATC guy's voice! so happy pilot and people on the ground are safe. Thanks for the videos, you do such a great job!
Kudos! Calm and professional, well done.
I really love it how controller reacted to the situation..admirable! good job done togther✈ safe skies
Thanks for showing us the ending I really appreciate that
Great relay of information to atc and nice job putting the plane down on 81
And he even pulled off onto the hard shoulder! Great job.
Great landing Captain and fantastic teamwork by all involved! It's a good thing he wasn't in Pennsylvania trying to set'er down on I-81. Between pot holes and the never ending road construction, he would have no place to land.
Thanks for posting that. I thought maybe there wasn't enough comm or other data available after I sent it to you. It happened in my back door, so to speak, I saw the TV coverage, but it's great to hear the inside the cockpit side of things. Again, thanks
Thanks for watching!
20 min from my house, everyone was shocked😂 always visually check your fuel people!! Great job by the pilot!
Bravo Zulu to the Approach Controller and 1AT!
"Roger, cleared visual approach I-81 Right"
Amazing video, thanks for putting time into it. Saludos
Thanks for watching!
Everyone involved seemed very calm when I know their heart must be pounding. It's great nobody was hurt.
god it would be so fun to be a pilot! so glad this ended up with no one getting hurt! great job to all involved.
I like the relief in the ATC's voice when he hears the pilot is safe. Cool.
These is a great example of team work congratulations to both. 👍
rubicon10 rubicon Congratulations to all three, I say! That relaying pilot was awesomely helpful.
ATC did a fantastic job vectoring his approach on I-81. Was very impressed that he kept checking and relaying obstacles after lost radar contact.
This channel does an incredible job highlighting the tremendous job that controllers do, with the support of fellow pilots like N721AT in this situation.
Yesterday a Cessna also did an emergency landing on a roadway in Puerto Rico!
Wow, great job by everyone involved. Awesome landing by the pilot in a very tough location.
So thoughtful of him to pull over to the shoulder. 😏 All joking aside, I’m glad he and those around him are all safe!
I've had days where I left work and thought "wow, I did something really incredible today, and I'm proud of what I got done!"
But this man probably went home prouder than he ever has in his life, and prouder than I've ever been about anything I've done, and for got reason.
The only thing ATC missed (or I've misunderstood) is @ 4:20 when the pilot asked what direction he should land. He could already see the expressway, so I was assuming he was asking which way would give him a headwind.
ATC replies "I can't tell you that, sir" but does say which direction the interstate runs. Maybe he doesn't know the wind direction since there's no weather station on the interstate...or maybe the most important factors (like overpasses) are best assessed visually anyway.
Thanks. I suspected that may be the case, but wasn't sure.
I remember this 😂 was only a few miles from where I live was heading to Bristol that day when I81 came to a stand still
Teamwork!
This is my airport!!! She’s small, but amazing! Great job to everyone involved.
Outstanding ATC - clear, calm and decisive. Conversely, poor communication from
The pilot. If he didn’t have a controller who recognised his emergency so soon it could of been a very different outcome - thankfully it wasn’t!
Most of pilot don't reconize themselves in case of emergency, I was the one too.
@@malahammer only "keyboard pilots" are the people who call other keyboard pilots, lol
@@malahammer if you're gonna copy/paste, make sure you don't have a typo in there
That's not exactly flat terrain they're operating over, pilot's probably just a LITTLE busy...
Thanks a lot for these videos VASA, they're priceless. This one in particular, for example. They move so many gears inside, quite a thing for empathetic people.
By the way, did you choose VASA as your nick because of the famous Swedish warship? That's one museum I'm missing gotta admit, even when it has nothing to do with aviation :-)
No, it's my initials
That was some clutch stuff right there with the cooperation. That could have gotten ugly quick.
ATC man , his voice when he knew the status of people on the ground the pilot, was so genuine, and professional . There are still people who cares. Highly recommend to listen to this video.
We flyers need to have the head computer running on all circuits during emergencies. The pilot never sounded stressed. He was concentrating on the job at hand, flying the aircraft. Communicating and comprehending. He could teach that controller a thing or two about keeping your wits. Calmness and concentration saves lives. Outstanding work. I'd sit right seat with this guy any time.
This pilot has an emergency condition but fails to declare it. An emergency call, Mayday 3 times, sets up priority and places ATC on alert!
It seems this is a common issue when private pilots have issues.
@@coreyphilbrook1314 after he was asked. Did you miss that?
Come on, watch the video, dude!
The problem is: They always forget to say MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY when they want to declare emergency. Maybe because too panic~~ Thank for the ATC always ask them back "Do you want to declare emergency?."
Some pilots underestimate the situation. Other pilots overreact. You don't know what was going on in the cockpit at that moment. Maybe his engine just started running a bit rough at first.
He did a great job staying cool about it. A lot cooler than i probably would be.
LOL, I was a tow truck driver. I towed a small airplane back to Montgomery field once. (ran out of fuel) I also got the call to tow a tank.. That was a fun job for a young guy. Everyone did a great job. I thought it was a little funny with the ATC when it come to exit 10. I guess exit 10 isn't on any air charts?
This is a neat story, wish you added him taking off to the clip.
later that night: "i'm home" "hi, honey, how was your day?" "well, i got to tow a plane that landed on 81 today." "wat"
Absolutely no excuse for fuel exhaustion unless you have a leak. It was his first flight in aircraft and may have trusted his fuel gauges rather then fuel burn. FAA allow him to take off later.
Saw the shell gas truck in first pic and my first though was laughing
“They’re really gunna gas him up, stop traffic and let him take off?!?” Lols
Only laughing knowing how well this turned out... dad was a pilot and I can think of at least a few close calls... the highlight would probably be putting his A-36 down in Nashville just a few miles ahead of a tornado that struck the north section of the airport. Talk about a gusty nasty cross wind on that approach. We were trying to circle the storms all afternoon until they just swallowed us up lol
Yeah I had a few close calls with my dad in his airplane too, besides trying to kill us on his sailboat a couple of times. Luckily we all survived till his death from old age. His memorial service was full of tales of people almost dying with Chuck.
This reminds me of a small plane that made an emergency landing on US 17 in Myrtle Beach on September 5, 2018. Looks like the tail number was N22RE from photos on the local news, WPDE Channel 15.
Pretty cool the pilot
Tends to be a bit of a difference between civilian and commercial aviation when it comes to communications with ATC, eh? Still, the pilot kept the right priority to Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. Good landing!
damn I drive this stretch of I-81 every day. wish I saw this happen
45X "Tell first responders I might have a bit of a poopy fragrance"
Great job by everyone involved! Why does the radio communication have to be relayed through the other aircraft? Isn't there radio towers placed around the ground so the communication can be relayed via those?
The tri-city tower will be designed to cover his area for normal flight altitudes. VHF signals essentially go in straight lines, so distant hills have a radio shadow behind them (unless the tower is super-tall). 1AT was at 9000 feet, so had a clear sight to the I-81 and to the tri-city tower. There might have been another controller nearby, but you don't want the emergency pilot to feel abandoned, and a frequency change is more workload when he's looking for a safe site to save his life. Hence the ATC saying "stay with me as long as you want"
Looking on the photos, I've been thinkg, one'll fill the tanks and just take off))
Fellow 7000 if that caused the problem, then yeah why not xD
When he declared an emergency it looked as though he was closer to KTRI than KVJI and judging when he was dropping it onto the highway it looked as though he could have made it to KTRI although the winds could have been unfavourable. His radio calls left a lot to be desired, but again, he was probably under a lot of stress. Glad it was a good outcome...
Thought so, but for planning purposes, back in is much easier. Depends on the status of fuel, if it was syphoning off from a loose cap, or just didn’t have any on departure. Given the abruptness, closest field would have been prudent, but ya know, here I am at home with my tea.
I live in the area. The VSP asked if they could fuel in the interstate first. Local reporters asked VSP at the press conference how the pilot knew his fuel was gone. Hmmm...
Lemonade Stand: *runs out of lemonade*
Reporters: 'how do you know you've run out of lemonade?'
Great job by all. Curious what were the very tall obstructions?
I'm Guessing comms towers but not entirely sure
@@tw3145wallenstein Towers on mountains, mountains, big hills... that's the northeast Tennessee stretch of the Appalachian mountains. it's not the continental divide but it's certainly not flat either.
Good job. Orlando had so,thing like this happen. Only it was on an off ramp and the plane,s back tire hit the trunk of a car. No one was injured tho
Excellent job for TRI APP and N721AT!!! I have a question: why N8145X can contact N721AT but not TRI APP??..
Probably line of sight - a building or something between the ATC transmitter and the aircraft. Having a relay in the air helps in those cases
It's called 'radio horizon'. Note 1AT is airborne right overhead at 9000 feet but TRI APP is in a building on the ground and maybe far away from 45X current position - building and obstacles blocking the radio waves.
They were about 20miles from tri. We are in the mountains, and he basically put it down right to the north of bristol tn/va just too many obstuctions
@@VASAviation Thank you very much!!!
The closer to the ground you are, the more stuff in between the transmitter and the receiver will reduce the signal strength. Including the curvature of the earth itself.
I love the team effort cooperation in this video. Made me feel warm inside.
4200 ft and six miles would be a stretch in a 172 in zero wind at best...but fuel exhaustion right after takeoff?
I read the report (www.kathrynsreport.com/search?q=n8145x). Pilot just bought the aircraft and it was his first flight in the airplane as owner. So, he did not accomplish a proper preflight and visually check the fuel tanks before departure.
If the tanks were that low, I wonder if the seller drained the tanks before selling it (Avgas is Expensive, you know).
Say it with me people "Emergency". Don't be afraid to use it. As soon as he knew it was a possible fuel/thrust issue, he should have spouted those words over ATC... wouldn't have made a difference, but it seems like he didn't want to use the words right away. Worst case scenario, state that you are having a malfunction and that you will get back to them with more. More than likely ATC will give you priority routing and attention if they know you are having an issue. Just my unneeded $0.02.
Lmao buddy was about to give him a freq change when he lost radar contact.
Hi VAS. Do you have any footage from AMS last night? Cbs caused lots of diversions and holdings
Yes, I do.
Will you upload it? ;)
I was working at a Flight school/ Shop When one of our Rentals Ended up, Upside Down on Airport Rd..
The School had a scanner tuned into the Tower.. We All heard the Call and Heard OUR N#, over the scanner as he reported... he'd run out of Fuel, entering Downwind..
The tower clear him straight in and asked if he could make it.. "Negative" he said "I'm Dead Stick, Lining up on Airport rd, Traffic Below.." "POWERLINES, PULLING HARD"
Then in a Calm Tone we hear...Tower this is N- Bla Bla.... Be advised, I'm upside down on Airprot Rd" When I got there, it was just amazing... Parts Everywhere... He was OK, Shook up but ok He said at the Last second he saw the wires.. Missed them But Stalled and Pancaked it in... Mains denting the Bottom of the wings and Flipped over its Nose landing Upside down.. and slid for 25 feet... The Lady in the car was FREAKED OUT.. Poor ol Gal.. Thank the Lord for Grumman Americans, Honeycomb Box Cabin... He walked away with just a scratch..
Tower, 45X on Interstate 81 holding short exit 10 requesting taxi instructions to hangar
My favourite bit was "he's on the shoulder". Whether the pilot had the presence of mind to do it or it was just an automatic thing because thats what you would do in a car I don't know, but the fact he didn't just leave it in the middle of the highway is hilarious.
I also like to imagine that the dispatcher for the tow truck company didn't tell the driver what he was picking up "yeah, only information we have is that its I-81 northbound just before exit 10 **stifled laughter**" 🤣🤣
Is that a ticket I see hanging from the plane? Speeding?
That's an oversize load flag. It's legally required if they're going to be hauling it over the road.
@@malkiery but he pulled over to the shoulder and out of live traffic.
What were the weather conditions like? I'm definitely not experienced enough to make the call but 6 miles at 4200 ft he might have just been able to (theoretically) make it to the field.
cut that in half, airport elevation is 2087 ... altitude would have been just a bit high for a powered approach, as-is 81 seems the better call.
sean li That area of VA is all mountains. Average low area elevations around 1600-2000 feet MSL with mountains up to 3000 ft MSL.
If the airport is at sea level or close to he should, but i have no clue.
@@chrisschack9716 oof, yeah, definitely not gonna make that. He made the right call
@@leerb44 dang, I'd have a few trouser emergencies if I lost power over that kind of terrain.
im interested in being an ATC, what are some huge deal breakers. all i can think of that might hold me back is a misdemeanor on my record and i have terrible eye sight (haven't looked into correction surgery, which might fix it) if those won't hold me back ill definitely start looking into it. thanks
You gotta be dedicated to get an ATC job. It takes a while, you have to get a medical and take several tests. Google how to and you'll find out the skinny on it.
Great flying but appalling radio work by the pilot. Declare the emergency early, get priority management from ATC so they know to vector you to where you need to go without delay. Can I just say, excellent situational awareness from 721AT.
I don't know about great flying because apparently if he was that great he wouldn't run out of fuel. I just landed yesterday in my twin cessna with 15 Gallons remaining or 40 minutes reserve. That's great fuel management
I understand that it was a stressful situation but part of training is emergency radio work. Declaring an emergency early would have helped -- along with having a sufficient amount of fuel on board. While saving the plane is admirable, not getting into a self-caused emergency is even better!
@@Jopanaguiton Lol...because running out of fuel is the only thing that causes fuel exhaustion...
Krystal Pinkston yes because it’s a Cessna 172 it has only Left and right and both and I have over 500 hours in that airplane. I now fly a twin cessna with 6 tanks. main, aux and locker. When my locker pump fails I can’t do anything about it but I know I’ll be short 20 gallons so I plan accordingly.
@@Jopanaguiton oh yeah because it couldn't possibly be an indication problem right? It's obviously pilot error, and not a leak, or a carburetor malfunction, or a magneto issue, or any of the multiple other things that would make it seem like the engine was fuel starving. Maybe you missed the fact that the engine was running, it was just running shittily and kept stalling. From transmission he was able to restart the engine everytime it stalled, so fuel probably wasn't exhausted, but it would seem that way. Could've been a plugged up fuel filter, or water in the tank, or any number of things
I hate to drive I-81 with a vehicle, much less a plane. Well done, everyone.
At the end was fuel exhaustion due to a failed fuel gauge, so never rely only on instrument if you have another mean to check!
the one thing that stands out in the pic is the Shell fuel truck... he's gonna get fuel and take off from the Interstate
So, how do you get the plane back off the interstate?
Was the controller unable to give wind information? Or would his information be unreliable or does he not have information for that area.
Unreliable.
I thought that was why the pilot was asking which side he should land on, meaning what does the wind look like in this area, but ATC didn’t seem to understand it that way.
@@Brontosauredumarais The wind is super unreliable. SW-NE ridgelines, if the wind's blowing from anywhere but straight up or down the valleys it's doing whatever it wants that moment.
VASAviation? It’s “EM” letter on the plane radar means Emergency?
yes
can you get atc audio from military plane crashes or so??
Thats very illegal... you'd be charged for stealing military property...
Ouch. Just read he purchased the plane that morning and was his 1st time flying it. Faulty fuel gauge.
So is that a gas truck parked in front of the aircraft? Did he simply refuel and was on his way? (I think the problem was reported as fuel exhaustion aka "out of gas" right?)
would the police get the road closed in time or would he have to land between the cars?
Went on dry tanks and then asked ATC if he could make it. And in which direction to land. Wonderful ADM
Why are these so addicting to listen to
And she'll fly again.
What obstructions would there be 2 and 3 thousand feet in the air?