71 and I LOVE this age. You spend the first 40 years being Programmed and then the last 40 years DE-Programming. I refused to accept that as a woman my Shelf Life stopped at 30. I planned for this time of my life. I take good care of my body and mind. Moved to Santa Fe because I planned to do the Art I put off while raising kids. If it sells that is not the point Now it's an exercise in being in that Flow State. My Mind is a lot more interesting. My boundaries are more defined. I no longer "suffer fools". While I'm not pushed around by hormones anymore, it doesn't mean I am no longer a sexual person. My attitude shows and when I look up a man will be staring at me. I left a 4 year relationship to move here...and He was half my age. We knew it wasn't forever and we parted as better people having known each other.
Around college, when I was sitting and studying a lot, I realized I could no longer balance on one foot. I almost couldn't jump anymore. This was the process of becoming an adult???!! Just less than 10 years earlier, I was jumping, biking, climbing trees. This "juvopause" we accept in life puts the first nail in our coffin. I noticed it and started fighting it. I was not going to put my time in to be promoted to high management donut-eater. Ta-da! Now, I watch my son and make sure I can imitate all of his movements. Now in my 40s, I run and jump around like a kid. I cartwheel and skip when I run. I've also done 3 Ironmans. No disease, feel like I'm 16. Never stop being a kid.
Isn’t it great! Thrilling even to be able to play through our entire lives! I’m still riding bikes and climbing trees and jumping whatever I want in my late 60s!!!
The end of this podcast where Rich gives chip props and then asks him about how to create and sustain change and he answers by saying to form a community around you made me tear up. Nice work!
Good luck with your continuing recovery Chip. That’s a wonderful way to look at cancer, that it’s a great teacher. I am a 65 RUclipsr and was on the carnivore diet and had a stroke! Although fortunately I was able to get the clot buster drug and almost immediately recovered, I have radically changed my diet to a low fat whole foods plant based lifestyle. Like you and your cancer, my stroke has been a very great teacher. I also appreciated the idea of no longer showing off but showing up instead. Thanks so much for everything you shared. YOU have lots to teach all of us and I appreciate everything you shared. I pray for your complete healing. Good luck with the book too. 💝🎉🎄🎅🎄🎉💝🎉🎄
Amazing chat!! Feel so strongly about this at 66 I don’t feel bound by anyone else’s preconceived notions of what or where I should be. I know you have so much more to share and look forward to following you.
I am scared. So much ahead in deterioration…but I won’t feed it. Dylan Thomas “Do not go gently into that good night but rage, rage against the dying of the light.” 💗😎💗
Gotta say my 50s are my unhappiest decade yet. It's the time that all the failures and disappointments hit. Big what was it all for energy. Yesterday on my walk the big tears came as I wanted my life back. Appreciate the thought, but not feeling it. Maybe I'll come out of it at 60.
What you have now is what you wished you had in 10 years. Dont wish your life to start living. One day at a time - its all mindset, if you think you have a shitty life you will. You are alive so live. Do not look at anyone elses life. Be authentic and kind to yourself but please dont wish your life away
Thank you for expanding the conversation around mid life... It's a major transition that we're expected to navigate with no guidance although everyone experiences it. This is invaluable. ❤
I loved this episode! Thank you!!!🙏 I have finally arguments for my age fluidity😛 I have never felt affected by age, I am eager to learn and evolve everydays of my life. Only times I think of my age is when people make me notice it.
Love and blessings to Chip on his learning journey . What respect for being alive he generates ! Once again Rich Roll gives us meaningful content . Thank you ❤
Loved this❣️I have been searching for these these kind of communities. I live in Florida which in general is of the old mindset. It seems online is all that’s available. I think my enthusiasm at 72 scares people. Lol
What an absolutely insightful and inspiring, life affirming and reassuring conversation. The late great educator Sir Ken Robinson highlighted fascinating research on the pairing of schools with older folks in institutions and the mutual benefits on multiple levels. Absolutely loved this episode - thank you to you both ..
When asked our age, how about saying I identify as in my 50s, whether or not chronologically that is accurate. I’m going with it.!!! thank you for that nudge!!
I hope his challenges improve. It's going to be interesting what Gen Z and Millennials do as they age (and what affect that has on the economy). I'm 64 and still working and have been lucky to have a job I am fulfilled at and able to look forward to a new chapter later on. In these days of inflation, economic uncertainty and people living paycheck to paycheck it's really a point of privilege to say "I'm going to quit my job, I'm going to take a gap year and find myself, I'm going to follow my passion". I guess the point is how to age, find meaning and contribute to your own wellbeing and help others when you can't do those things. Good listen as always.
Listen to the whole show, you are cheating yourself if you don't. Wish Chip all the luck in the world with his chemo but I have a feeling he is gonna do just fine.
@33 min: If giving/serving makes you happy, (especially when you have become sad/hopeless), it is obvious that- Service - is your True Nature...Not the egotistic attitude imposed by an environment that is generated by others trying to make money.
I really enjoyed this conversation. I agree with age being just a number, and many other ideas discussed. However, the idea of a "gap year", or even a 3 month sabbatical is way out of reach for most Americans. Have you thought of the fact that those of us who are not living the life of our dreams after age 50 probably don't have the resources to take time off work, let alone spend thousands of dollars on a workshop?
I would so love it if the eye, gazing exercise could be modified in someway to accommodate people who are blind, and cannot I gay. It has been one of my biggest griefs in life that I cannot look into the eyes of the people I love. Whenever I hear about gazing and eyes being the windows of the soul I feel like I’m missing something huge. I know there’s a way around but I don’t know what it is yet. 47:13
Why is he not on a whole food, plant based, oil fee vegan diet? I believe in doing both conventional and holistic protocols. Over 30 years of research supports whole food living especially for cancer patients. His cancer protocol is brutal. I’ve seen men go through it and die a horrific death.Dr. Charles Nutting, radiologist oncologist, STAT. I’d hate to lose this visionary aging leader because he follows one path. Dr. Brooke Goldner for his healing food path. Survivor. Certified Patient Navigator. Certified Sage-ing Leader. Certified Yoga Therapist. 🙏
I am scared. So much ahead in deterioration…but I won’t feed it. Dylan Thomas “Do not go gently into that good night but rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
Super interesting convo, but not sure about the age-fluidity thing..esp. when it comes to romance stuff this can be tricky and used in a bad manner. Just say your age and add how you feel about it. People will judge either way if they want to and if they don't, they won't : )
It is easy for the two of you to say that one should escape "successism" when you are already successful and financially secure. Your identities (and your egos, which clearly neither of you have transcended despite suggestions to the contrary) are bound up in the success that you achieved by hustling. If you could go back and tell your younger selves to avoid successism, but that meant that your current selves would be less successful and fulfilled, I wonder whether you would actually do it. I doubt it. So is this genuine advice? Or is it some kind of sophistry? Further, you are treating this thing that you're calling successism as if it were a disease that could be overcome by individuals, but, in fact, people are driven to "successism" by our economic system. Unless you are very successful (in Australia where I live, at least), then you can't buy a house, and you could be evicted by a landlord when you're 70 years old. Imagine having to compete with other people for a HOME at that age. This reality is a pretty strong motivation for a healthy dose of successism. Despite my reaction to some parts of the conversation, I do think these are important conversations to have and I appreciate you both for having had it and shared it with us.
Love this - but can’t get past “age fluid” 😂 In the UK, I’ve heard it used multiple times in reference to adults saying “age doesn’t exist as we know it” to excuse questionable relationships and sometimes peadophilia 😬 such a great podcast - just the term for me 🤢
So only for people TURNING 50 this year and HAVE 7 friends that they would want to take there....., ok so that certainly ostracizes most of us. Now i just feel worse :/
It is true that middle class people have existential crises and seek help to face the normal existence of aging. Getting older (if we're fortunate) is human. To die is human. Getting angsty about aging or dying is a luxury that many cannot afford. Fairly accurate resource material but could have been better researched. Very distracted by the interruptions of "anti-aging" snake oil sales and them talking AT us and not to us. This ongoing trend of looking away from the camera and still talking is rude and unprofessional. I had to listen without looking at it and am reasonably sure that I am not the only person who feels this way.
Theres no need to explain 'age-fluidity' by describing what 'gender-fluidity' is. I was otherwise enjoying watching something that for once isnt banging on about the transgender agenda.
As a vacation host, I have never experienced a worst company to deal with than Airbnb. Brian Chesky has learned how to be a scofflaw greedhead and little more that I can see. I have yet to run across any other hosts who don't agree with me.
71 and I LOVE this age. You spend the first 40 years being Programmed and then the last 40 years DE-Programming. I refused to accept that as a woman my Shelf Life stopped at 30. I planned for this time of my life. I take good care of my body and mind. Moved to Santa Fe because I planned to do the Art I put off while raising kids. If it sells that is not the point Now it's an exercise in being in that Flow State.
My Mind is a lot more interesting. My boundaries are more defined. I no longer "suffer fools". While I'm not pushed around by hormones anymore, it doesn't mean I am no longer a sexual person. My attitude shows and when I look up a man will be staring at me. I left a 4 year relationship to move here...and He was half my age. We knew it wasn't forever and we parted as better people having known each other.
I agree with what you said. I am 46. At 40 I started reprogramming. It's a process and it's so freeing.
@@Latricia130 ✌😊 When you realize you wasted time on BS....it's frees up a lot of energy.😄
@@Latricia130 Are you doing anything New ?
Around college, when I was sitting and studying a lot, I realized I could no longer balance on one foot. I almost couldn't jump anymore. This was the process of becoming an adult???!! Just less than 10 years earlier, I was jumping, biking, climbing trees. This "juvopause" we accept in life puts the first nail in our coffin. I noticed it and started fighting it. I was not going to put my time in to be promoted to high management donut-eater. Ta-da! Now, I watch my son and make sure I can imitate all of his movements. Now in my 40s, I run and jump around like a kid. I cartwheel and skip when I run. I've also done 3 Ironmans. No disease, feel like I'm 16. Never stop being a kid.
Isn’t it great! Thrilling even to be able to play through our entire lives! I’m still riding bikes and climbing trees and jumping whatever I want in my late 60s!!!
@@jenniferponder3230 100%
Cartwheels? Relax dude
@@jason5265 cartwheels are really fun!!!
@@jason5265 never
I will be 62 on Jan 17 and despite breast cancer last September and a lumpectomy- I feel happier and more content and at peace than ever in my life!
I slept & dreamt that life was joy, I awoke & saw that life was service, I acted & behold..service was joy. -Tagore
The end of this podcast where Rich gives chip props and then asks him about how to create and sustain change and he answers by saying to form a community around you made me tear up. Nice work!
WOW! What a wonderful, honest and wise talk. Really inspiring. Listened to all of it and will do it agin. Thank you
Good luck with your continuing recovery Chip. That’s a wonderful way to look at cancer, that it’s a great teacher. I am a 65 RUclipsr and was on the carnivore diet and had a stroke! Although fortunately I was able to get the clot buster drug and almost immediately recovered, I have radically changed my diet to a low fat whole foods plant based lifestyle. Like you and your cancer, my stroke has been a very great teacher. I also appreciated the idea of no longer showing off but showing up instead. Thanks so much for everything you shared. YOU have lots to teach all of us and I appreciate everything you shared. I pray for your complete healing. Good luck with the book too. 💝🎉🎄🎅🎄🎉💝🎉🎄
Your life can change immediately when you change your dialogue. Powerful stuff. Thank you! 🔥🔥👍
enjoyed listening to this, restored my hopes that humans are walking on a divine path .
What a brilliant, intelligent, clued up man! As a 55-year-old man [chronologically speaking] every single word that Chip said resonates with me.
I said I would become a Adult when I turned 50, now I'm 53, so I recently changed it to 60. Enjoy the sm things.
Amazing chat!! Feel so strongly about this at 66 I don’t feel bound by anyone else’s preconceived notions of what or where I should be. I know you have so much more to share and look forward to following you.
Moral beauty…that sums up my experience with jiu jitsu.. it changes lives. So much support, respect and giving back.
I'm 35, and so much of what Chip offered resonated. Thank you!
This is the most inspiring thing that I’ve heard in my life.
A spring in my step.
thank you
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I am scared. So much ahead in deterioration…but I won’t feed it. Dylan Thomas “Do not go gently into that good night but rage, rage against the dying of the light.” 💗😎💗
You really bring new guests compared to other podcasts, thanks!!
Gotta say my 50s are my unhappiest decade yet. It's the time that all the failures and disappointments hit. Big what was it all for energy. Yesterday on my walk the big tears came as I wanted my life back. Appreciate the thought, but not feeling it. Maybe I'll come out of it at 60.
I can relate. I hope you'll find community and perspective that renews hope.
What you have now is what you wished you had in 10 years. Dont wish your life to start living. One day at a time - its all mindset, if you think you have a shitty life you will. You are alive so live. Do not look at anyone elses life. Be authentic and kind to yourself but please dont wish your life away
50's are a tuff jam !
Ye Ole walk of tears !! Clears Ya ooot evv'ry-time it does !
Thank you for expanding the conversation around mid life... It's a major transition that we're expected to navigate with no guidance although everyone experiences it. This is invaluable. ❤
Having aomething in your life that you are a beginner at is like the fountain of youth.
Absolutely beautiful....and you are BOTH MORAL BEAUTIES💕
I loved this episode! Thank you!!!🙏 I have finally arguments for my age fluidity😛 I have never felt affected by age, I am eager to learn and evolve everydays of my life. Only times I think of my age is when people make me notice it.
Love and blessings to Chip on his learning journey . What respect for being alive he generates ! Once again Rich Roll gives us meaningful content . Thank you ❤
Loved this❣️I have been searching for these these kind of communities. I live in Florida which in general is of the old mindset. It seems online is all that’s available.
I think my enthusiasm at 72 scares people. Lol
What an absolutely insightful and inspiring, life affirming and reassuring conversation. The late great educator Sir Ken Robinson highlighted fascinating research on the pairing of schools with older folks in institutions and the mutual benefits on multiple levels. Absolutely loved this episode - thank you to you both ..
Amazing. Inspirational. Impactful. Soul-stirring ❤
When asked our age, how about saying I identify as in my 50s, whether or not chronologically that is accurate. I’m going with it.!!! thank you for that nudge!!
This is brilliant - best RR podcast ever. Love this way of thinking. Chip is brilliant.
I think that I could watch this video 5x.
This was absolutely fantastic!
I hope his challenges improve. It's going to be interesting what Gen Z and Millennials do as they age (and what affect that has on the economy). I'm 64 and still working and have been lucky to have a job I am fulfilled at and able to look forward to a new chapter later on. In these days of inflation, economic uncertainty and people living paycheck to paycheck it's really a point of privilege to say "I'm going to quit my job, I'm going to take a gap year and find myself, I'm going to follow my passion". I guess the point is how to age, find meaning and contribute to your own wellbeing and help others when you can't do those things. Good listen as always.
Great conversation and a really under-discussed topic!
So good!! Needed to hear all these amazing ideas , thank you!
Invisible woman in my 40s here and I love it! 🥰
You should sell that ability. I wasn’t aware anyone could actually become invisible. I’ve always wondered what that would be like.
You the man Rich love your work 👏🏻👏🏻
Such a great conversation.
Great episode, again! Thanks to both of you for your perspective.
Love this guy. Can’t wait to hear more.
I love this!! It spoke to my spirit!! Let's get it done!!!
Listen to the whole show, you are cheating yourself if you don't. Wish Chip all the luck in the world with his chemo but I have a feeling he is gonna do just fine.
Thank you rich for everything you do! Thank you for sharing! I would love for you to consider Richard Rohr for a future podcast.
Thank you!
I wanted this today! Thank you x
@33 min: If giving/serving makes you happy, (especially when you have become sad/hopeless), it is obvious that- Service - is your True Nature...Not the egotistic attitude imposed by an environment that is generated by others trying to make money.
I really enjoyed this conversation. I agree with age being just a number, and many other ideas discussed. However, the idea of a "gap year", or even a 3 month sabbatical is way out of reach for most Americans. Have you thought of the fact that those of us who are not living the life of our dreams after age 50 probably don't have the resources to take time off work, let alone spend thousands of dollars on a workshop?
Please get Dacher Keltner on the podcast, he'd make such a wonderful guest.
I would so love it if the eye, gazing exercise could be modified in someway to accommodate people who are blind, and cannot I gay. It has been one of my biggest griefs in life that I cannot look into the eyes of the people I love. Whenever I hear about gazing and eyes being the windows of the soul I feel like I’m missing something huge. I know there’s a way around but I don’t know what it is yet. 47:13
OMG I stayed at The Phoenix ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Why is he not on a whole food, plant based, oil fee vegan diet? I believe in doing both conventional and holistic protocols. Over 30 years of research supports whole food living especially for cancer patients. His cancer protocol is brutal. I’ve seen men go through it and die a horrific death.Dr. Charles Nutting, radiologist oncologist, STAT. I’d hate to lose this visionary aging leader because he follows one path. Dr. Brooke Goldner for his healing food path. Survivor. Certified Patient Navigator. Certified Sage-ing Leader. Certified Yoga Therapist. 🙏
I am scared. So much ahead in deterioration…but I won’t feed it. Dylan Thomas “Do not go gently into that good night but rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
You get experience with age, but most gets wounded, not wiser
Love it
Great podcast! ❤
Super interesting convo, but not sure about the age-fluidity thing..esp. when it comes to romance stuff this can be tricky and used in a bad manner. Just say your age and add how you feel about it. People will judge either way if they want to and if they don't, they won't : )
It is easy for the two of you to say that one should escape "successism" when you are already successful and financially secure. Your identities (and your egos, which clearly neither of you have transcended despite suggestions to the contrary) are bound up in the success that you achieved by hustling. If you could go back and tell your younger selves to avoid successism, but that meant that your current selves would be less successful and fulfilled, I wonder whether you would actually do it. I doubt it. So is this genuine advice? Or is it some kind of sophistry? Further, you are treating this thing that you're calling successism as if it were a disease that could be overcome by individuals, but, in fact, people are driven to "successism" by our economic system. Unless you are very successful (in Australia where I live, at least), then you can't buy a house, and you could be evicted by a landlord when you're 70 years old. Imagine having to compete with other people for a HOME at that age. This reality is a pretty strong motivation for a healthy dose of successism. Despite my reaction to some parts of the conversation, I do think these are important conversations to have and I appreciate you both for having had it and shared it with us.
Yes
"Age fluid" -- wonderful term
Doctors who do bioidentical hormones DISAGREE with reducing hormones if men get that type of cancer. Just thought you should know.
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Love this - but can’t get past “age fluid” 😂 In the UK, I’ve heard it used multiple times in reference to adults saying “age doesn’t exist as we know it” to excuse questionable relationships and sometimes peadophilia 😬 such a great podcast - just the term for me 🤢
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So only for people TURNING 50 this year and HAVE 7 friends that they would want to take there....., ok so that certainly ostracizes most of us. Now i just feel worse :/
Isn't this innate? It's 2024 and I need to be more selective and stop assuming wisdom is here.
Rich you are vital and engaged, Julie too.
Too many hall Mark card sayings. Geeze. Hope you heal.
Average lifespan is 73 for adult males in USA-our 60s are NOT midlife...
How? Lol it must be so hard to be happy when ur 60 n financially well off. Those broke 20 year olds have all the fun xD
The best way to manage your money according to this Greedy Chip Conley is to give to his Elder Academy.
Poor men
It is true that middle class people have existential crises and seek help to face the normal existence of aging. Getting older (if we're fortunate) is human. To die is human. Getting angsty about aging or dying is a luxury that many cannot afford. Fairly accurate resource material but could have been better researched. Very distracted by the interruptions of "anti-aging" snake oil sales and them talking AT us and not to us. This ongoing trend of looking away from the camera and still talking is rude and unprofessional. I had to listen without looking at it and am reasonably sure that I am not the only person who feels this way.
What the fuck is this guy on anyhways ?
He definetly been delivered some special happy pills !
Theres no need to explain 'age-fluidity' by describing what 'gender-fluidity' is. I was otherwise enjoying watching something that for once isnt banging on about the transgender agenda.
Snake oil salesman. Do your homework Rich !
As a vacation host, I have never experienced a worst company to deal with than Airbnb. Brian Chesky has learned how to be a scofflaw greedhead and little more that I can see. I have yet to run across any other hosts who don't agree with me.
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