Touge Battle FK8 CIVIC type R vs. Megane RS / Hot-Version 2018
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2020
- [ENTRY CAR]
HONDA CIVIC TYPE R FK8
RENAULT MEGANE RS
[DRIVER]
DK Keiichi Tsuchiya
MAX Manabu Orido
NOB Nobuteru Taniguchi
[STAGE]
GUNMA CYCLE SPORT CENTER (GUNSAI) 
Авто/Мото
6:53 That downshift tho...
thanks for pointing it out! Didnt saw it! Thats some serious timing right there
NOB and Max used to be the young guys challenging the older master, they all look the same age now 😮
Well they're only like 10-15 years younger so
xD
Thanks for the subtitles Best Motoring!.
Yep!
@Best MOTORing official, @ 19:08 DORI DORI GRIND 2nd GEAR?!?!??!?!? NNNAAANNNNI!!! =(
@@battosaijenkins946 all of the new type Rs grind 2nd and 3rd when pushed hard. It's a well documented issue.
good!
I cant believe they didn't go up against trophy R, it's like they wanted the CTR to win. Imo a pretty lame comparison
Thank you for English subtitles. Love this show 😍
So happy to see the subtitles. I would watch these any day over usual reviews from the U.S.
THIS !!! → "handbrake can help avoid crashing at the last moment"
I agree 100%; the e-brake has helped me quite a few times in the past. Seriously, when you push an FF to the limit... not being able to make your rear end swing can be a problem !
Been waiting for a subtitle of this FOREVER! Thanks BestMotoring!
9:30 "You told me differently off camera!" 😂😂😂.. They know the Civic has a... Youthful look to it 😂😂😂
メガーヌのデザインはいつ見てもイイ
Thanks for the subtitles!
土屋さんヤフーニュース見てるのか…なんか親近感湧くわ…。
amazing racing as always
Thanks for subtitles
Best car show ever !!! Never stop !!!
シビックr、サイドブレーキお願いします！
FK8 what a beast! You guys need to drive the facelifted new version it’s even better 👌👍😎
メガーヌR.S.トロフィーR との比較を望まれている方が居ますが、標準車同士の比較なので今回の動画でイコールコンディションだと思います。
トロフィーRは2名乗車にしてまで軽量化してオーリンズの車高調まで入れており、シビックに同じことしたらここからさらに速くなりますよ。
発売されたままの状態でニュルブルクリンクのタイムアタックに参戦しているという点で揃えるならばメガーヌもトロフィーRでないといけないように感じました。
273ファイナルエディションは発売されたままの状態でタイムアタックを行っていないので、その点において比較するならばトロフィーRのほうにすべきだと感じました。(以前のシビックvsメガーヌではトロフィーRでしたし)
あなたの仰る標準車の定義がわかりませんが、
シビックタイプRはニュルブルクリンクタイムアタック用に設計開発され、ハッチバックやセダンに下ろしています。273ファイナルエディションより軽量です。それに対してトロフィーRはR.S.をベースに後追いで発売されているので、2シーターやオーリンズを持ち出すのは論点が違うと思いました。そのへんのコンセプトはホンダの意向ですので。
あと細かいかもしれませんが、オーリンズはフロントのみ、車高調ではなくダンパーです。
新型シビックRとメガーヌRSトロフィーRのバトルを見たかったです。
Ty for English subs!
You people are the best!
これの前のシビックRの時はメガーヌRSトロフィーRだったはず。そのバトル見たかった。
後部座席もあってイコールコンディションだから良い比較だと思いますけどね
このオープニング曲テンション上がるな～
I'd be curious about the new trophy, 300cv and 4-wheel steering
Thanks for the subtitles 😍😍
Thanks for this video making free.
Honda, please bring back the manual handbrake. - Everyone.
GR Yaris.
@@dejan. Yaris GR is Toyota not Honda!!!!
Honda, could you please employ a best design for your civic, not this crap worth civic design of all time.
13:06 HAHAHA
Aaaaaaah como me gustaría tener a una tigresa como tienen en este programa... 🤩🤩🤩🤩
遂に来たよFK8峠バトル！
Was waiting for this video for a long time. Would of been more interesting vs the trophy r megane though
シビックハッチバックの方が郡サイ似合いそう
9:24
「10代、20代が楽しめそう」「買えないよ」
それはそう
ですね。とても買えない！
I just wish Honda returned to a much shorter wheelbase like old civics they were much more fun.
I love my FK8 in red
Next, please compare megane 4 RS Trophy R to the FK8 ;-)
1番購入する人が多そうな、2ペダルの新型RSで比較して欲しい
Glad I just bought an fk8 😊
But... a new generation Type R is coming in a year or two...
@@eksentrysyti let the man enjoy his purchase
Same. Had mine since August. Love it. Enjoy the car my friend.
19:57
さりげメットバイザー閉めるトコかっこいい♡笑
メガーヌやっぱりいいな
魅力的ですよね
You guys are great ! But next time take Megane rs trophy R :)
Its so much more expensive than the civic type r so it wouldnt be fair.
@@lolol4129 Trophy R cost 52.9k vs TypeR 54.9k... The carbon wheel pack increases to 63k... and the Nurbur specification with carbon ceramic brakes, straight feed dynamic intake and 390mm discs... yeah that cost 72k... a endurance hot hatch...
今回トロフィーじゃないけど、タイムではしっかり抜かしてるのよね。けど新型のトロフィーとかも見てみたい〜
I own a 2020 civic si as well as a 1998 civic hatch (ek4 replica) and i miss the hand brake so much the button is stupid in my opinion
Everyone hates that button handbrake. But the car sells to rich people and for them that looks cooler. They dont care about car people anymore just profits
Thankyou❤
あーちゃん可愛いッ💕
When the Initial D Live Action is too good.. arigatou!
Finally we got the english subtitle, the new type r is absolutely amazing car, too shame that most of the hot hatches now are all wheel drive and not front wheel drive any more
Why is allwheel drive a bad thing?
Because they're heavy and need evermore power, and the front wheels can't convert the energy to forward motion effectively. The FK8 is the first civic since the EK9 that I like haha. I would have to Strip the crap out it, and k24 NA swap it. As torque is the enemy of front wheel drive, Therefore turbos are a bad move...
@zOOrich_ ... because it's the step before rear wheel drive, without any of the dynamic driving experience. That's leaving out the extra weight, and more importantly responsive because the rolling weight- resistance. Also the manipulation like lifting the engine to fit the front driveline slightly higher center of gravity, and plus the fwd limited steering lock lol
@@markay_ Yes weight a lot more and the mainteinance is more expensive. Very important if you make lots of track days.
Their comments on both cars are dead on. I actually own the FK8 and previously owned the Megane 275 Trophy. I would like to see a comparison of the new Megane Trophy R to the Limited Edition Type R with Cup 2 tires. Mine is running on Cup 2 and the grip is tremendous, much better suits it.
True, and this is the old platform... the RS4 is faster than this Civic in many other channels... Your 275 is a beast keep it for colector.
Great episode. Civic Type R all the way! As an owner of a FK8 Civic Type R I agree 100% with the comment about the manual hand brake. The Type R should have come with a manual hand brake and not a push button electric one. Other than that I LOVE the way the car looks, and I love the way the car drives. At first I was not a big fan of how quiet the exhaust is, but I have grown to appreciate it especially living in a neighborhood with other people. I do LOVE the engine sounds coming from under the hood. It is a sweet sounding engine despite the quiet exhaust note and there is no droning to give me a headache in highway driving.
i think they gave it an electric one because they wanted to cut some cost and assumed most of their 10th gens would be cvt/auto anyways so no point of giving a manual handbrake which sucks
@@ShaiyanHossain manual is better and so is a manual handbrake. I mean you can still add a manual handbrake and bypass he government rules by putting another calliper on the back.
なんでメガーヌ4出さないんだと思ったら撮影からだいぶ3年経ってるのか
"Hey, that's sexual harassment". Love how DK is always messing with the girl lmao
As for the torque steer, this is the problem with the modern car becoming heavier, these are not really hot hatches because there the size and weight of performance cars, without the substance. Torque is the enemy of front wheel drive, which is why Hondas always dominated because they were naturally aspirated- along with VTEC- and the more linear- progressive power band converted the energy into forward motion more affectively. But Honda has gone in the same direction as Europe, where everything is a distraction to performance potential.
個人的にはメガーヌRSが好きです
今販売してるメガーヌ出そうぜ タイヤ揃えて
Bummer! I thought it was the new megane not the old one. This isn't a fair comparison.
type R auto rev match.. but legend DK- san will still heel to toe
高いって言ってくれるあたりは感覚ズレてなくてありがたい。
Luxury megane with softer suspension and no LSD!! Hence the understeer
土屋さんにカッコいいと言われるとマジで嬉しい😂
トロフィーＲじゃフェアじゃないと思ってたから良かった。
Type R is a weapon. Hate the electronic handbrake though
Bring in the new Mégane now haha ❤️
lol in 2018?? such a looser
@@astorbergonzoni why a looser? Big Honda fan here, the Megane RS was released in 2018, when this video was recorded. It would have been fair to bring the Megane 4 RS
Horrid car
どっちも良い車だよね。
どっちも試乗して選んだのは！！！
ゴルフGTIです
ゴルフですかい(笑)
MTですか？
どっちでもなかったwww
同じく！
HAHAAAA! je suis français et j'avais une golf gti-7, j'ai un jour essayer la Mégane Rs-4! depuis j'ai vendu ma golf! merci. Pour finir la femme qui sert à rien est jolie malgré tout!
シビックタイプRもモデューロX出してくれないかな〜？
I didn't expect so much understeer from the Megane, does this one have the LSD?
The PS4 tyre is more a comfort tyre and well the car is outdated in comparison to FK8... Still extremely capable
Dream car
Honda please if you make sport car like civic type r just put normal hand brake like the old gen
タイプRもATで電パVerとMTでサイドBみたいに分けて欲しいな
Wait how is there comments a month ago when this says it was uploaded today 🤔🤔
they added the subtitles to the video rn thats what i think
it could be uploaded for members first then after a certain time frame BW released it normally (this is just speculation/guess)
Subtitle update
Members first
Megane rs 300 trophy vs civic type r please do that
The have times for a Trophy R, that's the best thing about this, you STILL know which cars are faster.
現行メガーヌでもやってほしいいい
トロフィーRとリミテッドエディションの2台で対決してみて欲しいです
10:29 かろうじてタイプRらしさを残す
ほんとその通り
んー、やっぱ昔のシビックの方が魅力的だったなぁ
21:44 Hmm... DK is saying that "type R is 80kg heavier than Renault" but subtitle is "30kg lighter than Renault" ???
What a introduction 😂
Thank you for subtitles!
やっぱ幅広な動きしてんな。後やはりリアは独立懸架の方が、リアの接地感を感じやすいのに、リアが巻いたりと表情豊かだな。 ビームでケツ巻いてくる時って結構やばくなってからのイメージだ。
スイフトはほんとうまくやってる
無駄にニュル最速とか競わずに
楽しい軽量＋NAシビックを作ってくれよ...
ほんとそれなです
シビックはEG6が1番好きです
(※個人的に)
ハイブリッド仕様になったNSXもそうだけどホンダの車作りと消費者のズレが酷いというか
車に求めるキャラが違うというか
10〜20代に似合う→買えない！には笑いました
まさにその通りです
メガーヌRSイイ
This version of Civic should be tested against the megane 4 rs not megane 3.
結局現行車種ならどれが一番峠やワインディングで楽しいんでしょうね。
600万以下くらいでは現行メガーヌは結構良い線行ってるんじゃないかと思うんですけど。
Poor spec chosen.
Megane RS with 19" Speedline + Michelin PS4S > Megane RS with 18" Tibor + Michelin PS4 non S tyre.
If you can a chance, Hyundai Veloster N Test. Please!
for me a type R which does not exceed 8000tr is not a real type r!!!
I miss the old engines
シビックさ、お値段もなかなかなのだから、もう少し大人が乗っても恥ずかしくない大人なデザインにして欲しいなぁ。
メガーヌは大人っぽいよ
god it's so good I can hear the eurobeat at the intro
What's that green car from the intro, in which Keiichi does doughnuts with open door?
Kei office S15
nissan silvia s15
NoirBadGuy Kei Office S15
Civic Type R is best hot hatch!
若者はお金が無いしクルマへの意欲もないですから、企業としては購入できる層をターゲットに商品を展開するのは当然です。
が、結局その姿勢がますます若者の車離れを加速していってる様な気がします。
ＨＯＮＤＡで大衆車と言ったらフィットか軽くらいしか思い浮かびません。
I'm getting the feeling they're more excited about the VTEC... lol
しかしこんな綺麗な奥さんもらって山内選手が羨ましい笑
Tras not just, type r vs megan rs should be against megane trophy!
The megane trophy like dk said it has no rear seat, the rs has rear seat, thats why they compare it with the type r, if the type r doesnt use the rear seat it would be faster than the trophy r
When you test a Renault you're not really fair!!! It's not the first time and we can see it on the vidéo. Not professional...
マイチェンしたばっかなのにFK8シビックRもう買えなくなってしまった。
HONDAのホームページ見たら、買えなくなってましたね。
前期型から乗り換えを考えていたのに残念です🤤
どうせ次が出るでしょう🎵
タイプRを製造している英国工場が閉鎖する為見たいですね。
This Megane RS is what they should have compared the old FK2 to - you can't compare a completely stripped out, track spec Megane to a normal Civic hot hatch. Thanks for the subs as well, nice to actually know what they're saying :)
True. And now they should compare the normal rs with this new type r. I'd really like to know how they measure against each other
Ну а как по другому?!!!
Type-R
Old Renault vs. New Civic. Now try new Renault. Honda needed 3 generations to catch up and beat a mk.3 Megane.
2018 video buddy
Bring Megane 4 Rs Trophy R and let's see Civic Type R.
best motoring has 583000 followers? man this world is upside down i swear....
The number of followers means nothing. You can be a big fan of their stuff, buy their magazines and internation dvd series, so you don't need to be following their youtube channel. Keiichi Tsuchiya has only 71k followers on IG and 143k on FB. It's well known that he got hundred of millions of fans around the world though. Not everyone follows internet accounts. I don't
Un caro saluto from Italy 🇮🇹.
15:30 Good specs. 🤭
男子から不人気のフランス
でも、実は車も料理も漢気溢れるものが多い